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421  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Bad posting method of newbies on: February 18, 2024, 05:04:26 PM
I blame the people that are introducing the newbies to this forum without proper orientations. It will be very difficult for someone in Nigeria to know that a place like this exit without someone introducing you. I never knew a place like this before a friend introduced me and took out time to give me proper orientation about the forum. If everyone is taking time to do this or at least taking their time to see if those they brought here are doing the right thing, we won't be seeing these rubbish postings everywhere from Nigerias. If you introduced someone to this place, take out time to be checking their post history and caution them where necessary, by so doing the level of substandard postings will reduce drastically.
I'll agree with you on this one. there are people who are here with the sole purpose of posting just to fish for merits which is a very wrong perspective of this forum. Newcomers Should indeed be well educated so they'll know their purpose of coming here, that way we will not only be getting rid of meaningless posts but also new members will avoid going through unnecessary stress throughout their stay here.
422  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Some challenges of the newbies in the forum on: February 18, 2024, 04:57:50 PM
Honestly, if all the newbies wey dey enter the forum dey take their time to familiarize with the forum the way you do, then the rate of spam and meaningless post go really reduce. You go see person just register account today today, e jump enter Bitcoin Discussion board go as "What is Bitcoin and how can we make money from Bitcoin". Anytime I see those kyn things, e dey really pepper me for mind because I go come dey wonder wetin these people dey really thing wey them dey do this kyn thing. Normally when you go where you no know, you gats first chill make you for observe wetin dey happen there and how people for their dey do things, you no go just come where you no know, you don start to dey ask people careless questions. Na true say here na learning environment and high ranked members supposed dey carry newbies along, but no be to come forum as a newbie come ask question wey be say u fit just easily ask Google make Google for give you better answer, you go ask question wey people don already tire to answer for the forum and you expect make them answer you, after you go say people here na bully, wey be say you never even do wetin you supposed do. Abeg make we dey try do the right thing.
423  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Pls, let be aware of Sportybet balance adder scam…. on: February 18, 2024, 04:37:04 PM
Omo e get one time those people message me directly for my WhatsApp, I no even know how them carry get my number, I just come see message say them wan teach me how to carry get like X20 deposit bonus. I first ask the person how e take get my number, e tell me say e get am from Facebook. Me wey no dey share my number to strangers or even post am for public place. I say no wahala make e teach me, after I already know say na scammer. (Me wey dey like to dey mess with these scammers Cheesy). E tell me make I log in to my Sporty, I log in, e tell me make I make deposit of 1k with my card, I do am, e come ask me whether I done do am, say make I send am screenshot, I send am, e come say okay, say make I wait for 1 minute then check say I go see 20k there, later e come ask me if I don see am, I say no. Na so e come send me link make I log out from my account then click the link to log in again say I go see the bonus. I come click the link, na just exactly the same thing with sporty and if you no put eye for ground, you no go know. I come tell am say the person wey design the site for am try sha but say en hand no too strong, say make e tell me make I direct am to person wey go do clean work for am, na so the werey block me. Lol. I no fit laugh finish.
424  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Bad posting method of newbies on: February 18, 2024, 04:22:17 PM
Person don already post this particular thing with the same particular link for this our local board.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485335.0
Make you try to dey go through other people posts once in a while before you go dey rush to repost wetin another person don already post.

Again, na true say wetin the person post no dey portray good image for we Naija people but the truth be say here na public space and everybody get right to post wetin e wan post, as long as you no dey abuse your fellow forum member. Na the way e pain am for mind na e take post am so make una freestyle am, if una no like wetin e post, just skip and move to the next post.
425  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: The barbaric acts of our security personnels continues and the govt does nothing on: February 18, 2024, 04:13:35 PM
The nuisance caused by these fellows are indeed alarming and we don't see the government showing so much concern about this. Even the local vigilantes in the local parts of the country misuses the privileges given to them. The other day, I saw news about how a local vigilante of a town in Rivers State opened fire on his brother over a little family rivalry, a misunderstanding that could have been settled amicably, he took laws into his own hands and shot his brother, leaving him in a very pitiable state.
This isn't the first time I'm hearing about the harassment and intimidations caused by these fellows to innocent citizens. The government should really look into this matters and put a lasting stop to it before it becomes worse than it already is.
426  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Are you Benefitting or not Benefitting due to Dollar increase on: February 18, 2024, 04:05:05 PM
Na just this matter I been dey discuss with my wife today, she been dey talk say she wish say dollar go even climb reach 2k, I shout, say wetin? She talk this thing because she get work wey she dey earn in dollars too, so as them pay her, the money dey big when she convert am to naira.
True true, people wey dey earn in dollars or other currencies na e dey benefit from this dollar wahala, but those of us wey dey depend on salary for naira dey complain because as dollar dey rise, na so things dey cost wetin no nice and majority dey complain.
Thats why I dey always advice people make people fyn way to start to earn in dollars because that way we fit get chance to fight this suffer wey dey we country like this.
427  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: How do u handle rumours? on: February 18, 2024, 03:54:55 PM
Rumours no be new thing and no be for only our country this rumour dey if u love football and u follow transfer news, any wan wen Neva dey confirm na rumour.
So we talk am say rumour na something wen Neva dey confirm already. But u see this rumour fit cause many wahala for person no be small one of these rumour wen I Dom hear before wen be say me I nearly follow na the one way be say person tell me say this our odogwu na Bitcoin so Nigeria government Dom ban am for Nigeria say like this na many Bitcoin odogwu them government Dom dey find them then I ask am say weda Bitcoin na illegal business my man say yes na illegal business say this Bitcoin people Dom dey use jarz dey work to follow oyinbo people make them dey pay them, Omo me wen Neva know anything about Bitcoin me I come think say na true oo but I say first of all since I get this android for my hand make I make my research well before I start to tell people sha.
I Google this Bitcoin ban in Nigeria I no see anything like that, I commot, I enter phoenix nothing like that, I enter BBC news nothing like that. Then I search on my own what is Bitcoin naim I take know say Bitcoin dey very far from scam things wey this guy talk then I see am for road one day call am say make him come follow me read wetin them write about Bitcoin here the guy come tell me say na person tell am oo.

So my question now is how u take dey handle rumour on your own so many things fit put person for trouble some rumours wen u fit Dom here and decide to keep am for urself. Say I follow that boy Omo I for Dom delete my account for this forum no be small I for come start from square one wen I finally realize say na lie and by that we for get small problem but him no force me I get my phone it all depends on me to make my research no dey in a rush to do something wen u like. So no fall for rumours oo make u no lose wetin u suppose achieve use ur head rumours full everywhere some na test while some fit later happen but stay calm and observe till the end of the heat.


Lol as I dey read the story you dey talk I no fit laugh finish, which kyn careless talk your friend dey talk so? Honestly, e get some people wey them supposed lie am down flog them for some kyn thing wey dey come out from their mouth.
But you kwa, because say them ban something no mean say the thing na scam, e get plentt countries wey ban Bitcoin presently but e no mean say na scam. E get the time wey or Naija government been ban crypto, even ban twitter join, but e no mean say them been scam nah

The summary of the matter besay make people just dey careful the way them dey carry dey follow matter wey dey come out from people mouth, even the ones we dey see online, else e go affecr you the way you no expect.
428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 18, 2024, 07:00:54 AM
 
It is difficult to know what level of adoption bitcoin has, and I have my doubts that it has even reached 1% of the world's population, even though we have rich folks and rich institutions currently coming into bitcoin, including some of them entering through the newly approved Spot ETFs.  These guys are neither imuned from gambling tendencies or making mistakes of the past, including but not limited to mistakes made that led up to a lot of the 2022 cascading crashes of Terra/Luna, Celsius, Blockfi, 3AC, Voyager, FTX, Alameda Research,  Genesis (perhaps involving Grayscale) and probably some others that I am forgetting about...

Indeed, there isn't a precise metrics to gauge how widely Bitcoin is adopted. Some may choose to consider the quantity of daily transactions or the number of Bitcoin wallets that are currently in use. However, these gauges are limited to certain factors.

However, despite its rather low adoption rate, Bitcoin is nevertheless having a significant effect on the financial system. For instance, the collapse of FTX has effects in both the traditional finance and cryptocurrency sectors. Therefore, even if just a small portion of people use Bitcoin, its impact is far bigger than that statistic would imply.

 Well, I think On the one hand, Bitcoin has been around for more than a decade now, and it's had a number of major price fluctuations, crashes, and comebacks. So it's certainly not a new technology. However, until it becomes  commonly used for transactions, there is still a long way to go. As of right now, the majority of its users are investors; regular people use it less frequently for tasks like paying bills or buying groceries. Therefore, I believe it to be in the middle of the "early" and "mature" areas.

It also appears that ignorance of the underlying technology contributed to some of the mistakes committed in the past. For instance, the Terra/Luna scenario resulted from a crash caused by an algorithmic stablecoin design error. Also, FTX's inability to accurately account for customer deposits was a contributing factor in their bankruptcy. I don't really think there are many fundamental flaws with Bitcoin itself, I believe it's more about how it's being implemented, which I believe could be readjusted as the day goes by.
429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 17, 2024, 09:07:57 PM
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Those that purchased Bitcoin at the beginning did, in fact, receive a very disproportionate return on their investment. Regarding opportunity cost, I totally agree. Even if someone bought Bitcoin with money that they could have invested in something else, the return on their Bitcoin investment would likely be much higher than the return they would have gotten on that other investment. Of course, all of this is hypothetical.

When we are looking at past performance of various portfolios it is not hypothetical to compare them, even though we could take hypothetical examples, or we could even compare our own performance to a hypothetical example, such as someone who might have DCA'd into BTC versus if he had invested in some other various kinds of investment opportunities that he might have had at various points in time.

Surely, we cannot go back in time and change what we did, but we can choose the extent to which we might want to be aggressive in our bitcoin investment now or the extent to which we might want to employ a more aggressive bitcoin investment strategy - and we still might end up making mistakes because we cannot necessarily know the extent to which any strategy that we start to employ now might pay off - yet if we are ongoingly assessing our own situation and we are attempting to employ good practices, we likely would end up improving the chances that our investments would pay off over the passage of time, especially if we make sure to include (and maybe even prioritize) bitcoin accumulation into what we are doing...and maybe even more important for those who either don't have any bitcoin or do not have very many bitcoin. 

You can learn a lot about and refine your strategy by comparing historical portfolios, (your own or others'), to hypothetical portfolios. It's also interesting to consider the potential earnings if one had chosen to invest in Bitcoin at different times rather than other assets. This could be a helpful exercise to weigh the possible risks and rewards of potential future investments.

It's not just about buying and selling in the short term to try and make a quick profit, but rather about making a commitment to accumulating Bitcoin over time, understanding that the true potential of the technology may not be fully realized by using the short-term approach.

In the early days of Bitcoin, there were a lot of people who were drawn to the idea of getting rich quick by investing in this new and mysterious technology. These were often referred to as "get rich quick" investors, and they tended to focus on short-term gains rather than the long-term potential of the technology. However, over time, the market has matured, and many people have realized that Bitcoin is a long-term investment, and that to really see the benefits, you need to be patient and committed to accumulating over time, but a lot investors are still myopic about this fact and still holding on to the old and outdated technique of Bitcoin investment.
430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 16, 2024, 09:26:25 PM
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Due to its uniqueness, Bitcoin has the potential for a significant asymmetric reward, which implies that the upside is far greater than the downside.

Consider some of the guys who might have invested $10k or less into bitcoin 8-12 years ago, and yeah of course, the earlier they invested the better, yet $10k for some folks might have had been a whimpy investment.. and even a $1k investment in 2012 might have gotten you close to 200 bitcoin, and surely some folks might consider that amount to have had been pretty whimpy, and so the return ended up being way more disproportionate to the upside as compared to the amount invested or the amount put at risk, even if you consider opportunity costs of the invested money and even if you consider that the money devalued over the next 8-12-ish years, depending on when the guy got into bitcoin.

Those that purchased Bitcoin at the beginning did, in fact, receive a very disproportionate return on their investment. Regarding opportunity cost, I totally agree. Even if someone bought Bitcoin with money that they could have invested in something else, the return on their Bitcoin investment would likely be much higher than the return they would have gotten on that other investment. Of course, all of this is hypothetical.

It is impossible to predict with certainty what would have happened if someone had chosen to invest in something other than Bitcoin. However, considering Bitcoin's potential return on investment in contrast to other viable options, such as stocks, bonds, real estate, or other assets, is still an intriguing thought. It's possible that Bitcoin has occasionally performed significantly better than those other investments. For instance, during the last ten years, the S&P 500 has returned roughly 7% annually on average, but during the same period, Bitcoin has gained over 200% annually on average.

Naturally, past performance does not guarantee future success, and as Bitcoin is far more erratic than the stock market, its returns can vary greatly from year to year. But there is certainly a chance for an enormous return on investment.

The power of compounding rewards is another intriguing point to consider. Compounding allows the return on your investment to gradually increase over time. For example, if you invest $1,000 and get a 10% return, you'll have $1,100 at the end of the year. But if you reinvest that $1,100 and get another 10% return, you'll have $1,210 at the end of the second year. And so it goes on and on. Therefore, the compounding effects of Bitcoin's returns may have led to a significantly higher gain over time than someone might have predicted, even if they had only invested a little amount of money. For instance, if a person had invested just $100 in 2010 and HODLED their BITCOIN, they would have accumulated over $300,000 by the end of 2021. Even if that's a very specific and uncommon situation, it's still intriguing to think about how Bitcoin investors' performance might have been influenced by compounding gains.

You've hit the nail on the head when you say that one of the most crucial elements in investing in Bitcoin is time. Your chances of getting a good return on your investment increase with the length of time you can hang onto your Bitcoin. Similar to a snowball effect, your investment will increase over time. Additionally, as you mentioned, you'll gain more knowledge on how to maximize your investment over time. The misconception that most people have when investing in Bitcoin is that it's a get-rich-quick scheme, but that's clearly not the case and that if they just start investing in Bitcoin, they'd be rich in a month or two, and this infact is the actual reason why most Bitcoin investors go into the short-term trade and they end up loosing money and giving Bitcoin a bad name, they go all in without really having the knowledge of what they are doing and then at the end incur losses for themselves. Bitcoin is more of a long-term game, and if you really wanna rip the true benefit of Bitcoin, then going long-term will definitely help you achieve that.

Bitcoin investment is combination of knowledge and patience. You need to have knowledge about how to invest in Bitcoin to get good return. We have discussed many investment strategies here i.e. DCA, LUMP SUM and buying on dips. Which every strategy you adopt (or you go with all three) the key to success is patience or HODL for long term without it you wont see good results.


Rightly said, every investor (Both Bitcoin as well as other assets) needs both knowledge and patience. It's not enough to just buy Bitcoin and hope for the best, you need to understand the market and the technology behind it because if you're not fully equipped with the knowledge you need to make certain decisions, you'll be exposed to lots of dangers that is capable of negatively impacting your investment and you might end up making wrong decisions and putting your investment in jeopardy.

 And you're also right that the key to success is often HODLing for the long term, rather than trying to time the market or make quick profits and it takes a great deal of patience to HODL. This is a lesson that many new Bitcoin investors learn the hard way.
431  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: What if this forum allows private discussions? on: February 16, 2024, 03:49:03 PM
This forum has been designed as an online learning where you can login and find new ideas learn about crypto currencies and also share your little taught or find help from the forum from areas that you think you need to understand much better.

My question is, What if this Bitcointalk forum was also designed the way we have other online platform like, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and others where you can dm someone privately for a private discussion. What if this forum allows all kind of posts and memes, what if your pictures are also allowed to be posted.

Do you think this forum would have made more sense if you were allowed to chat someone privately or do you think it won't be matured anymore or will you see it as a fun place because this forum now everyone is focusing on business it is business minded now.
So what if the forum was created for one to be able to chat another privately.
 

You can actually send private messages to people by navigating to user's profile and clicking on the "Send this member a personal message" option. See the image below for illustration.



Like you said, this is more of a learning environment and interaction is a necessary and an important tool in order to make learning easy so whether privately or publicly, interaction is necessary for learning to occur so it won't make it immature at all.

And concerning posting of all kind of posts and memes, I believe there are off-topic boards and other kind of boards that you can actually post such things, but it should be posts that one can actually learn a thing or two from and not posts that are irrelevant.
432  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: What does op really mean on: February 14, 2024, 08:13:18 PM
I've already gotten two comments on my profile for posting trash and I don't know why I'm been condemned in such a way but they should also understand that there are people who are trying to do everything all by themselves without having any direction from others and as a matter of fact this is my first forum ever and I am trying to figure things out by myself and want to plead that everyone to bear with me please and don't also hold my worngs against me and I've been confused on what the abbreviation op truly means as I read that it means original poster but it seems it's been used in other context and I want to plead that you pardon me and clear me what it actually means.

I totally understand how it is for you, feeling like you're being bullied here when you're simply just trying your best to make positive impacts on the forum. I was also like you once, when I started on the forum, I also didn't really have proper guidance or someone to help me through the forum so trust me I understand and that's why I'll give you this friendly advice. I don't know how you come to know about the forum or what you were told goes on here, but I believe if you have the right information about the forum then you'll find the forum easy and convenient.

Like always say, the primary objective of this forum is to acquire and exchange knowledge about bitcoin and other things, as a new member, your sole aim should be first to learn and after you've learned then you can have something to contribute to the forum, but if you've not learned what then can you contribute? You've only been here for a short while and I believe you're yet to familiarize with the forum rules and regulations, which should be the first thing you should do, rather than immediately start posting and looking for people to merit your post, I know you're probably saying I'm only a Member rank and this should be coming from higher ranked members but I'm speaking to you from experience, when i joined the forum last year, I was eager to start posting and earn merits until I realized that i was doing the wrong thing and then I dedicated my time to learning first so I can have knowledge to share and to be able to make meaningful contributions to on going conversations. If you go through my activities on the forum, you'll realize that I do more of contributing to other's threads rather than posting or creating my own thread. I'm not saying I'm perfect or I have acquired all the knowledge I need, no but at least I know I'm on the right path and you also should.
433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 13, 2024, 08:23:52 PM
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... so when I say there's an exception, what I simply mean is that, with the facts gathered from both present and past events, the probabilities assigned to Bitcoin acting differently from it's past performances. Considering those probabilities as certainty is the risk involved in Investment. Without the risks, there won't be any rewards.

Of course, we can invest into bitcoin in a way in which we are not putting all of our eggs in the one basket, but still come out of the situation very much better than we would have had been if we had not invested, and I am not even suggesting to invest into anything other than bitcoin and having your shit together in regards to your cashflows, expenses, emergency fund, reserves and float, and since bitcoin is such an asymmetric bet, many of us should be able to prosper quite well by just attempting to invest as aggressively as we can without recking ourselves.

Due to its uniqueness, Bitcoin has the potential for a significant asymmetric reward, which implies that the upside is far greater than the downside. Because of the enormous potential payoff, it is often profitable to take a chance on Bitcoin, despite the inherent risk. It's similar to playing the lottery; but with far better odds. And I couldn't agree more with you on how you pointed out that it's not just about investing in Bitcoin, it's also about having your financial life in order and making sure you're not over-extending yourself.

In my opinion Finding a way to keep up with their other financial obligations is one of the biggest challenges for anyone looking to invest in Bitcoin. It's easy to get caught up in the hype and excitement of Bitcoin and lose sight of the fact that you still need to pay your bills and have money for emergencies. To invest in Bitcoin, some people might even be tempted to take out loans or incur debt, which is not a wise move. It is crucial to keep in mind that you should never invest more money than you are willing to lose.

I feel comfortable with long term strategy and since I don't have huge capital I accumulate in DCA manner. What I have learn so far is that time matter a lot if you are in bitcoin. The longer you have ability to hold more is your chances of great ROI. If you don't believe that then go check yourself from previous data. There will be more risk if you are investing for short duration. With time as we invest, the more we come to know about how to accumulate bitcoin for the long term.

You've hit the nail on the head when you say that one of the most crucial elements in investing in Bitcoin is time. Your chances of getting a good return on your investment increase with the length of time you can hang onto your Bitcoin. Similar to a snowball effect, your investment will increase over time. Additionally, as you mentioned, you'll gain more knowledge on how to maximize your investment over time. The misconception that most people have when investing in Bitcoin is that it's a get-rich-quick scheme, but that's clearly not the case and that if they just start investing in Bitcoin, they'd be rich in a month or two, and this infact is the actual reason why most Bitcoin investors go into the short-term trade and they end up loosing money and giving Bitcoin a bad name, they go all in without really having the knowledge of what they are doing and then at the end incur losses for themselves. Bitcoin is more of a long-term game, and if you really wanna rip the true benefit of Bitcoin, then going long-term will definitely help you achieve that.
434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 12, 2024, 06:45:22 PM
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Yes, I agree that past performances do not guarantee future results but we can agree that Bitcoin is the most established Crypto asset with the highest capitalization thereby giving some sort of advantage because there's only one out of a million chances that Bitcoin is going to crash or that it's going to dip and fail to recover. Again,  when we say past performances doesn't guarantee future results in Bitcoin, there could be exceptions when you're investing for the long-term, whether using the DCA or Lump Sum.

There cannot be any exception to the rule that past performance does not guarantee future results because the past is the past and it is guaranteed, and the future is not guaranteed. 

The main thing that we can do in regards to the future is to assign probabilities, and the mere fact that we are able to assign high probabilities still does not make the future prediction guaranteed. 

I will concede that in several ways bitcoin has a lot of high probabilities, depending on how the questions are framed - but there are so many ways that it is not like a rock (and is a rock even guaranteed to keep its form?).. there is electricity involved, networking, computer software, various natural and man made events.. .. and even given all of that, there is quite a bit of solidness within bitcoin as compared with other manmade (or man discovered) phenomena...

I will also not deny that there is a lot of exceptionalism in regards to bitcoin, including that there is no other asset or shitcoin that even comes close to rivaling it, but still that does not make it guaranteed, it only makes it relatively better than everything else.. and so we should be able to have confidence in allocating accordingly.. even while knowing that past results do not guarantee future performance.

Yes, when it comes to DCAing, consistency is crucial. You won't truly reaping the benefits of DCAing if you simply buy when the price is high and sell when it falls. Additionally, I believe it's important to keep in mind that DCAing is only a method that might help to lower risk and possibly improve profits over time and not a guarantee of profit because anything can happen in the world of bitcoin.

You even agree that bitcoin's future performance is not guaranteed.

I frequently like to suggest that we can rest assured with DCA only if we have a bit of a strong presumption that the overall trajectory of whatever asset that we are investing into (in this case bitcoin) has an upward price trajectory - and most likely to be up relative to the amount that we put into it at time that we are going to need to cash out some or all of the value that we put into it... so yeah, of course, we want to think in terms of real value rather than nominal value and we also might not exactly know our timeline, including that our timeline might end up being quite spread out 15-30 years down the road or some other ballpark ideas of a timeline in regards to when we might consider that we are planning to start cashing out of some or all of our BTC holdings... and even our planned timeline for cashing out could end up going out further or might end up getting cut short due to some emergency situation that we might get ourselves into.

Agreeably, In a way, no matter how much information we gather, the future is never really definite. However, as you said, we may utilize that information to assign probabilities and arrive at well-informed conclusions. Furthermore, it appears that Bitcoin has some special characteristics that make it stand out from other assets. As an illustration, consider its scarceness and its autonomy from centralized authority. However, as you pointed out, there are no assurances.

But when we think about it, how do we go about making decisions about the future if we are unable to predict it with complete certainty? Assigning probabilities to each of the many alternative possibilities is, in my opinion, one way to come up with a solution. For instance, there are a number of potential outcomes for Bitcoin: it might take over as the primary means of transaction, be overtaken by another cryptocurrency, get banned by governments, become archaic and replaced by something else entirely, etc. Additionally, we can give each of these scenarios a probability. We can therefore still make decisions based on the probability we assign to each possible result even though we can never know for sure what will happen.

So even if we can't be 100% certain, we can still make an informed decision about how much to invest in Bitcoin, how much risk to take, etc. so when I say there's an exception, what I simply mean is that, with the facts gathered from both present and past events, the probabilities assigned to Bitcoin acting differently from it's past performances. Considering those probabilities as certainty is the risk involved in Investment. Without the risks, there won't be any rewards.
435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: compressed and uncompressed addresses on: February 11, 2024, 10:24:21 PM
I believe the wallet I used was called the Mycelium Wallet, that was the first time I tried using the wallet and I can't tell the reason the transaction as wasn't successful

Mycelium should work to send and receive BTC to or from segwit(bech32) BTC address you might be using the old version of Mycelium wallet which is why it wasn't successful when you are trying to send BTC and Mycelium wallet is very problematic it always disconnected from mycelium server or sometimes stuck on syncing so maybe on that time when you are sending BTC from Mycelium wallet the server is offline that is why the transaction fail to broadcast.
I suggest switch to a better wallet like Electrum because Mycelium had this issue since before.

Yeah I already switched to Electrum. My experience with Mycelium was a long time ago I noticed the inconveniences the wallet gave and so I had to switch to a more secure and better wallet.
436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 11, 2024, 08:05:16 PM
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People who have Hodled Bitcoin for the past 10 years I believe can confirm this, because there's no way they could've made any losses, except maybe their wallets were compromised or something, but if it's loosing funds to the market, I doubt it's possible. I stand to be corrected.

There are always ways to lose money and past performance is not a guarantee to future results, even though you are talking about anyone who mostly held their coins more than 5 years is in profits, and these days anyone who DCA's for any period of time (more than a month or two) would be in profits so long as they were consistently buying simiilar quantities of BTC at regular intervals over the whole period of time.. such as weekly.

Of course people are not necessarily consistent, so if some folks might have front loaded their investment at various times in 2021 when the BTC price is higher than now, then it would not be clear how much they would have had to continue to invest in DCA and perhaps other tactics in order to be profitable at today's BTC prices.

Yes, I agree that past performances do not guarantee future results but we can agree that Bitcoin is the most established Crypto asset with the highest capitalization thereby giving some sort of advantage because there's only one out of a million chances that Bitcoin is going to crash or that it's going to dip and fail to recover. Again,  when we say past performances doesn't guarantee future results in Bitcoin, there could be exceptions when you're investing for the long-term, whether using the DCA or Lump Sum.

Yes, when it comes to DCAing, consistency is crucial. You won't truly reaping the benefits of DCAing if you simply buy when the price is high and sell when it falls. Additionally, I believe it's important to keep in mind that DCAing is only a method that might help to lower risk and possibly improve profits over time and not a guarantee of profit because anything can happen in the world of bitcoin.
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: compressed and uncompressed addresses on: February 11, 2024, 06:59:24 PM
You are wrong.
You can send bitcoin from any type of address to any type of address you want. This means that you can send bitcoin from segwit address to legacy address and vice versa.

Well that's Strange, cos I know I tried it sending Bitcoin from a Legacy address to a SegWit address, and I'm pretty sure it didn't go through.

Well, it's even more strange that you don't provide any details from which wallet you tried your transfer where it "didn't go through" as you remember. It's also open for interpretation what you mean by "didn't go through". Could be from showing an error to too low or otherwise unsuitable transaction fees that prevented the transaction to be finalised.
While I know that @hosseinimr93 is right, I can only assume that you tried your transfer from some braindead (online?) wallet that doesn't support withdrawal or sending to native segwit addresses. There may still be services out there that don't support native segwit addresses and I'd rather choose to avoid such underdeveloped things.

I believe the wallet I used was called the Mycelium Wallet, that was the first time I tried using the wallet and I can't tell the reason the transaction as wasn't successful
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL bitcoins, you can do it! Look at HODL camp map to build up strong hands on: February 10, 2024, 10:50:28 PM
You have provided concise explanations of the advantages and disadvantages of lump-sum investment vs DCA. While lump-sum investment can be dangerous in unfavorable market situations, it can also result in large profits in favorable circumstances. By spreading out your investments across time with DCA, you lower your chance of losing money in the event of a market collapse. However, if the market takes off, you might pass on the chance to make a significant profit

When determining which strategy is ideal for you, I believe it's critical to take your long-term objectives and risk tolerance into account. It's also important to remember that DCA may be more practical for people who lack a sizable sum of money to invest all at once.


The decision of how much and how often to invest is one of the most essential elements of DCA. As an illustration, you may choose to invest a certain sum of money each week, month, or quarter. Rather of investing your entire savings all at once, the goal is to spread it out over time. This strategy can result in lower total expenses and helps to moderate market volatility. Another tactic is to automate your DCA plan, which would cause frequent automated transfers of funds from your bank account to your investing account.

Risk can't be completely avoided but its impact can be minimised. I have see from previous price chart of Bitcoin that risk can be lessened if your investment is spanned over a larger duration. For short term DCA nor Lump Sum is recommended.  
Lump Sum is not a bad option. You just need to prepare yourself for this startegy and then invest when you think is best time to jump. DCA no doubt minimised the risk to greater level because you are continuously buying over a period of time and that gives you a good average price.

You can check my following post to see how much return DCA and Lump Sum give you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479211.msg63392684#msg63392684

That's true. risk will always be present in investing, regardless of the technique you use. However, as you pointed out, there are ways to reduce that risk, including lump sum investment and DCA. It's important, in my opinion, to keep in mind that everyone has a different level of risk tolerance; some people may feel more at ease with certain levels of risk, while others may wish to lessen it.  

In any case, I think it's critical to take into account your personal risk profile. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to risk tolerance. Certain individuals are naturally more at ease with risk than others. It's also critical to consider your investment timeline. When investing for the long term, for instance, you could be more ready to take on more risk because you will have more time to make up for any short-term losses. However, you may want to prioritize risk minimization and exercise extra caution if you're investing for a short period of time.

Honestly, I don't think hodling is that important. I agree that it's a very simple and very profitable long-term strategy with Bitcoin. But people can treat Bitcoin as money, selling and buying all the time. It's also fine to treat it like savings, taking out a part when needed, not when a hodling period is over. And then there's indefinite hodling, normally explained by phrases like 'if you wait long enough, you won't have to sell your BTC'. But what does it mean? Using it directly and exchanging for goods? Taking loans based on wealth you have in BTC, like rich people in the US do with traditional assets? Never using your Bitcoin (then what's the point of having it)?
There are many questions that people need to find their individual answers to.

Nicely said, but you can agree with me that different people have different perspective and viewpoint about Bitcoin investment. There are people who are looking for ways to invest for their future and Bitcoin happens to be one of the most profitable and safest investment that can is believe to have the ability to last almost a lifetime.
Before Bitcoin was even considered an option, people held gold as future investment for years without intentions of touching or selling a portion of it to fund their needs.

The fact you are Hodling Bitcoin doesn't mean you can't have other investments that you can run to whenever you need money. But nothing is more reassuring than having a pile of Bitcoin just lying in your wallet for years and you just live your normal while you just watch your money grow as the years go by. I'll have to disagree with you that Hodling isn't that important, because it's very much important, because I see it as the only way one can almost avoid risk of loosing money when it comes to Bitcoin investment. People who have Hodled Bitcoin for the past 10 years I believe can confirm this, because there's no way they could've made any losses, except maybe their wallets were compromised or something, but if it's loosing funds to the market, I doubt it's possible. I stand to be corrected.
439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: February 10, 2024, 06:45:12 PM
Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Addiction is addiction and addiction is very bad because the result isn't always good, the fact that a gambler always have the urge to gamble doesn't make him an addict, neither does giving in to urges make you an addict. One sign of addiction is when your gambling life affects other areas of your life. For example, your gambling budget is 20% of your income and instead of just sticking to 20%, your gambling starts consuming and cutting into other expenses and sometimes you even end up using all your income just to satisfy your gambling urges and you only feel better when you're left with nothing. Sometimes it makes you even go as far as going to borrow from others just to continue gambling.

And just because a person smells nice, dresses nice or appears to meet up with appointments doesn't really mean he's all good, you might never know just how much damage his addiction might be causing him, not until he opens up and spills it all out to you.
440  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: 5 NIGERIANS WEY DIE BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE THE NAIJA AND SOUTH AFRICA MATCH on: February 10, 2024, 06:24:37 PM
I think the last game of Nigeria against South Africa people took it so different and emotion which is not suppose to be so.  This AFCON is one of the most competitive in the history of AFCON. The reason why that game was so serious it because other Africa countries are not in support of Nigeria to win their games that it is why Nigeria took the game serious which was very tensed for them. It was a very serious business for Nigeria to win the game.

I wouldn't doubt what you said about other countries not being in support of Nigeria not winning the AFCON, not like I expected winning to be easy, but honestly I feel like opposition this time is really off the hook, because i could've sworn that I sensed some foul play in the last match by the referee and whoever was directly communicating with him, because I see no reason why he would recall an offense that already passed just immediately after Victor scored the 2nd goal.

And yes, the support of Nigerians in the current AFCON competition is really massive, I have never seen such support in my life before, like it's just so massive like our lives depends on it.
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