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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: July 17, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Hmmm I hope it is that really will push the price above and beyond. Which country are they trying to get licensed through?(Hopefully not the US) I imagine that would be a regulatory nightmare considering how much of a stranglehold they have the gambling industry even in Las Vegas it's a nightmare to get licensed.
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin -Active Lightning Networks!Decentralized Business Blockchain Platform! on: July 17, 2017, 09:40:05 AM
What is the benefits of SYScoin over BitBay?

Can someone explain this for me ?

EDIT: you do have a big competitor out there: Bitbay.

Read the infographic comparison.


/Regards Anoxy
So your mac is still in beta after all this time? Might wanna update your graphic charlie.

Syscoin is the only existing decentralized marketplace in existance period. You do not understand code. Take that cherry picked infographic elsewhere. Every other marketplace assumes escrow we do not. It is day and night difference actually. Read the code to find out yourself.

For shits and giggles lets take a look at your infographic though.. to be objective in thought for our readers ok?

Lets look at ones given an X to sys.

Firstly sys has moderation, it has multiple levels of it including safe search private offers and enforced private offers in worsed case. Bay just has banning afaik through moderator key (not as nice and does not fall within decenteralized model).

Next reputation is already built into sys.

Next private markets are also covered by selecting your offer to be private. Also finding these offers will be much easier with syscoin indexers since they are deterministically derived from blockchain historical data which is gauranteed. Bays contract state cannot.be deterministically derived because its p2p so by definition there needs to be some trust to ensure that indexers get the data it needs for searching functionality. Thats a fact and a big difference between sys blockchain design vs bay or open bazaar p2p design concept. Sys blockchain wins big there.

Transaction history on.blockchain yup big check for sys and X for bay instead. Most ppl agree blockchain is better. If you want to prove in court you made a tx its easy on blockchain. The contracts are all offline on bay and i dont even think they hash and root onto a.blockchain so its hard to prove in court you did something beyond a reasonable doubt. Even if you hash and root your indexers become non deterministic and trustful to central agencies which will be responsible for data of those contracts. Easy to shutdown in that case. To deal with bloat sys has special pruning which removes expired data.

Multisig? Sys aliases which own offers can be p2sh.. so it can handle multisig as well if not better than bay. This creates join account functionality aswell. 2 more checks for sys there. Sys leverages bitcoin technology for that sys is on latest bitcoin core because it was designed to be backwards compatible. What is bay based on since its pos it must be an old version of bitcoin full of old bugs and missing core performance improvements made in later btc releases which sys employs. Again sys was developed with bitcoin core upgrade compatibility in mind. Even so much that i created a process to do the work so its easier to upgrade by adding // SYSCOIN comments everywhere i added sys code to so ican easily rebase.

Oh btw sys core is open source.. bay is closed. Big check for sys there.

Steg, p2email, builtin irc chat.. sorry those features to me are features for the sake of features no real world benefit.to our design. Other ways to solve that problem without involving the core.

Smart contracts? Sys has services which are contracts well tested and unit test coverage specific to their usecases. Bay requires authorization so not much difference there.. create a pull request and your done.

Pegging is the only unique thing bay is working on sys doesnt have. Sys has many other things bay doesnt have. To keep it in context of this post. Sys is the only marketplace which does.not require escrow. This is important as some merchants (especialy once they have reputation built) will not want to use escrow. Others cant afford the upfront costs of escrow. But arbited escrow is easiest for network affect because its the lowest barrier of entry. Double deposit escrow like bay has offers a high barrier of entry and thus will not achieve network affect. Noone will use the system. Also if one side genuinely forgets or goes missing both sides lose funds which adds much risk averse behavior to the system and pushes would be buyers away. Vitalik Buterin and I had a convo on this and agreed in current state of crypto, arbited escrow is only way to go. Sys has a real decenteralized marketplace which is more than a simple barter template. Sorry but a template wont do here for a comparison. We have reselling, whitelisting, integrated escrow and many other things that make it a marketplace and not just a template which can be used to MAKE a marketplace. We have uniquely crafted the syscoin offers smart contract service.based on our vision of how a fully functional decenteralized marketplace should work from the ground up and done on the.blockchain. Bay has not done that. Its using a barter template or a.buy sell anything template to try to fit the bill. The templates will require much customization to.get to the level of sys marketplace design which becomes less of a template then and more of a customized solution imo.

Sorry for long post but if anybody else shoves that dumb diagram down your throat just kindly link them to this post. I seen it enough and decided to spend the time to fix its obvious mistakes (over 50% is wrong atm)




Damn this post really covered the pluses of syscoin blockchain and how it really is one of a kind. I've used and posted on both markets and I definitely lean more syscoin for sure but it's also important to give credit where credit is due bitbay has come along way with its marketplace too and in the end we are all on the same side with trying to beat out price gauging mainstream marketplaces. But a little friendly competition never hurt anyone!  Wink
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) on: July 17, 2017, 09:23:17 AM
I'm 50/50 on the proposal honestly maybe Waves may be a good alternative to both both XCP and ETH are having growing pains when it comes to network scaling and buying and selling the card tokens its been months since any of my orders filled and eventually I just stopped placing them why waste the BTC.

Think also waves is a great alternative. It is very user friendly for so far. Think it is also possible to build you're own litewallet with inwallet card trading on the dex.


Downloaded the game spells of genesis last week and now my wife and daughters also like the game very much.
Downloaded also the book of orbs but it is a little bit hocus pocus to purchase cards. I even don't know if it is connected to the game.
If I buy some cards is it automatically possible to see them in the game?


Very good reasons listed plus there's also the fact that soon mobile DEX will be out for Waves and once that hits I have a feeling transaction volume will rise quite quickly. It should at least be considered or be offered as an an option maybe set up a burn address process to exchange XCP cards for Waves cards just my two sats.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 17, 2017, 09:01:04 AM
Waves should take off once the fall rolls around and the dump bottoms out hopefully at least. I know mobile DEX is on the way but any idea when that may be released?? Once that is out transaction volume should increase and payouts should be higher.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔴SOLARIS - XLR ⚒ Premine Escrow ⚒ Cryptopia ⚒ NIST5 ⚒ Android Wallet on: July 17, 2017, 01:14:02 AM
I'm loving Solaris so far. Refreshing to see a fairly distributed coin for once that favours miners (as well as being more secure and efficient!).

Any idea if this will ever have masternodes. This would be a great way to not only improve the network but also to thank those miners that supported the coin in the early days Smiley

Masternodes are a great idea honestly for network security and long-term interest in the coin but the amount should be low barrier of entry to avoid centralization imo.
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VASH] VpnCoin | AES Chat | BitChain | Domain&Website | Zero Knowledge on: July 15, 2017, 09:54:35 AM
Wish this coin was on bittrex, BTC38 seems like a bad move. I'm in if it gets to a better exchange

We contact with Bittrex many times, but...
We need community help.
[/quote

How exactly can the community help out with getting it listed on bittrex? This coin is really a strong one with the amount of development thats gone into it and the tenure its been alive. Is there an updated roadmap or anything like that available?
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) on: July 15, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
I'm 50/50 on the proposal honestly maybe Waves may be a good alternative to both both XCP and ETH are having growing pains when it comes to network scaling and buying and selling the card tokens its been months since any of my orders filled and eventually I just stopped placing them why waste the BTC.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔴SOLARIS - XLR ⚒ Premine Escrow ⚒ Cryptopia ⚒ NIST5 ⚒ Android Wallet on: July 15, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
I'm also interested in the signature campaign very interesting coin waiting to heard the future plans for it, already got the signature in place and dev has my PM.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: May 13, 2016, 04:44:31 PM


Is it just me or is Syscoin severely undervalued?  Tongue I think a lot money currently flowing into crypto is divived amongst the many promising ICO's. It's perhaps a good idea for Syscoin team to focus on the non-crypto world, that's where the big money is to be found.  Wink

Agree on both fronts- Syscoin is undervalued and we are focusing our efforts outside of crypto as we agree- that's where the big $$ is especially with the use cases we can now satisfy in a decentralized manner. We're looking to satisfy legitimate use cases as that's where the real money is (ecommerce, p2p sales, craigslist, ebay, etc)

That's exactly what I'd like to hear as a long-term investor. The potential is definitely there! I think for mainstream adoption it's important to stress the advantages of Syscoin's blockchain market place in contrast to the old usual online market places. This could definitely be the next big step in online market places. I remember when E-bay and Amazon just came up, it was a weird new idea, buying and selling stuff p2p on online market places, now people are accustomed to it, Syscoin should become the next step in evolution, both as to become a next generation market place itself and to help the old fashioned online market places to evolve and adapt to the new era by implementing Syscoin technology.  Wink

^Agreed with this it is pretty amazing to look at; I haven't posted anything yet or tried any features. But just from the look and syncing speed I see the potential and work you guys have put into this! Keep it up! I haven't tried OpenBaazar yet but I think this could easily snag a share of the ecommerce market!
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: May 13, 2016, 04:31:58 AM
I tried running it on OS X 10.11.4 and it quit unexpectedly at startup which makes me sad. Sad Here's the log if it helps:

Process:               Syscoin-Qt [1007]
Path:                  /Applications/Syscoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/Syscoin-Qt
Identifier:            org.syscoinfoundation.Syscoin-Qt
...

This was reported in our Slack earlier today, the latest Mac build was missing some dependencies if you download it again from https://github.com/syscoin/syscoin2/releases/download/2.0/Syscoin_2.0.dmg it should fix the issue.


Works now thanks!  Grin
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: May 10, 2016, 12:00:54 AM
I tried running it on OS X 10.11.4 and it quit unexpectedly at startup which makes me sad. Sad Here's the log if it helps:

Process:               Syscoin-Qt [1007]
Path:                  /Applications/Syscoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/Syscoin-Qt
Identifier:            org.syscoinfoundation.Syscoin-Qt
Version:               Huh
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        Huh [1]
Responsible:           Syscoin-Qt [1007]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2016-05-09 17:57:53.788 -0600
OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.11.4 (15E65)
Report Version:        11
Anonymous UUID:        720F261A-4FFC-30C2-DF77-EAE2DF00975D


Time Awake Since Boot: 2700 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0

Exception Type:        EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries

Dyld Error Message:
  Library not loaded: @loader_path/libboost_system-mt.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/Syscoin-Qt.app/Contents/Frameworks/libboost_thread-mt.dylib
  Reason: image not found

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432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: March 24, 2016, 03:57:51 PM
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433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) on: March 11, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
I want to sell my SJX Card... whats the best place to do it?

I'm selling (sold) cards through the DEX in counterwallet. it's super easy with IndieSquare app Smiley

Same here IndieSquare is the best way to use a counterwallet imo.
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) on: March 08, 2016, 05:12:22 PM
Well for me its accumulation, the release is getting closer and closer and time to buy Bitcrystals and cards while there still relatively cheap!
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-FINAL BETA LAUNCHED! *ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BTC INTEGRATION* on: March 03, 2016, 04:39:08 PM
what is the difference from sys1 sys2
Very excited about this.

Question.

I have 500,000 SYS coins. Worth 3.715 BTC

Conversion will leave me with 2,145.

2145 SYS2 @ 0.00173 BTC = 500,000 SYS1 @ 0.00000715 BTC

That puts it at $0.72 cents per coin after conversion @ today's rate.

Wouldn't the marketcap need to increase significantly for my investment to hold today's value after conversion?

Maybe I have it all wrong...

The price doesn't convert! This isn't the stock market.
The market will determine the price accordingly.
what is the difference from sys1 sys2

Far less coins the conversion rate is 299.4 SYS1 to 1 SYS2 if I understood it correctly.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-*ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BITCOIN INTEGRATION* - FINAL BETA SOON on: March 02, 2016, 05:28:41 PM
tell me why ppl need a wallet and install it i meant download the chain,to much process .....  it wont work for normal ppl.  Sad Sad Sad
less hope for adoption, see where it goes  Huh Huh

That reminds me of this quote... I bt that fella feels pretty stupid now...
Quote
"There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977

Sorry to say, he's passed on but, he did survive long enough to see how wrong his prediction was:

Kenneth Harry "Ken" Olsen was an American engineer who co-founded Digital Equipment Corporation in 1957 with colleague Harlan Anderson.

Born: February 20, 1926, Bridgeport, CT

Died: February 6, 2011, Indianapolis, IN



Just to add a little humor here, check out this famously wrong quote below:

“The truth is no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works.”

– Clifford Stoll, 1995

In a 1995 Newsweek column entitled “The Internet? Bah,” astronomer, author, hacker and computer geek Clifford Stoll bravely dissed the newfangled gizmo formerly known as the WWW. He claimed it overflowed with a “cacophony” of voices and opinions – some intelligent and worthy of our attention, but many not. He spoke of a “wasteland of unfiltered data” and problematic information searches. He asked facetiously, “Who needs teachers when you’ve got computer-aided education?” And he lamented there was no trustworthy way to send virtual money.



Ugh I hate it when smart people lack vision....
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-*ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BITCOIN INTEGRATION* - FINAL BETA SOON on: March 02, 2016, 05:54:18 AM
I guess most of user didnt like the market. Everybody sell their syscoins.

Yeh I liked the market so more cheap coins for me then,

This can easily grow to be the new silkroad 3.0 :p

In my opinion, and you can also sell more stuff ofcourse.

Maybe you should add like a 18+ section to the coin.

Where you can maybe have like a illegal stuff section so the kids wont see the crazy stuff Cheesy

In general unless your browsing entire blockchaim through a web portal someone stood up the kids wont see that stuff. The idea is that the merchan creates his store and stands up a gui that only shows his offers

Remember, it's money/currency. And money in, and of itself, cannot be blamed for what is purchased with it. If someone makes an illegal deal using USD, the US Government can't be held responsible. By the same token, if someone uses the phone system to facilitate an illegal transaction, the phone system/company cannot be held responsible because the transaction was arranged over their lines.

This should be very interesting to watch as it unfolds....


Yeah it is not a good idea honestly I was joking earlier with the drop-ship listing comment. If drug listing started appearing and the marketplace took off the The Governments of the World cannot shut it down but they could shut down the developers; they're not anons and some live in the US. If anyone here thinks that because its decentralized that will protect the devs they are naive imo; By putting the screws to the devs(harassment, lawsuits, BS trump charges, etc.) they would probably succeed in freezing legitimate development on Syscoin(who can blame them, they have lives and families) and I seriously doubt anyone from the community would step up and fill the shoes of the devs so it essentially would kill Syscoin development for legitimate purposes. You can forget about partnerships with legitimate companies to if you have any kind of illegal listing on the marketplace. As a businessman I would see it as too risky a PR disaster waiting to happen. Just my two cents on why it shouldn't happen not trying to be a downer or anything but that's just the outcome I see happening if syscoin goes down that road. After the Silk Road trial I wouldn't expect them to hold anything back and actually play by the rules of the law.

I agree this will be very interesting to watch as it unfolds and I would question the legitimacy of any case attempted to be brought against the dev team. What would be pursued for? We aren't listing the items. I think they would have a very difficult time crafting a case that really put the developers in the line of fire, although they could try. To the earlier point it would be like trying to sue all gun manufacturers for shooting deaths each year... not the fault of the manufacturer and there is arguably a much stronger foundation for a case there vs an open source project having listings created by its consumers that the govt doesn't like and because it decentralized and they can't stop it they come after... the devs? But for what? I don't know of any case law that would give them a position to attack us from, but I'm also not a lawyer  Wink You can bet that prior to official release we'll be retaining a lawyer to ensure Syscoin's EULA is solid and releases us from all liability.

To the point of mixed materials in the marketplace, some which may be objectionable to certain other merchants or certain locales. As sidhujag mentioned you're only going to see everything on the chain when your in the wallet, searching- and you're still only going to see public items. If the "nefarious" items are private listings, you'll never see them in the wallet (listings start as private by default). Additionally, if you're interfacing with the marketplace through a web or mobile view (the most common use case in the end imo) you will only see the items the merchant / market operator wants you to see. For those merchants that have a problem with "everything on the chain" possibly containing stuff they oppose they'll have to make the choice as to whether those items which are invisible to their customers are worth losing the benefits that Syscoin brings - namely increased exposure, lower costs, no central authority, higher redundancy, and zero downtime.

If they feel the value tradeoff isn't there they will keep paying eBay (or whoever) and hoping it stays up and hoping they can market their items effectively enough to garner sales and hoping their listings are allowed there and they don't get banned. I agree that while there's really no telling what will happen when this is unleashed (its like Twitter before there was twitter  Wink ) the key to succeeding for us is going after that eBay/Etsy/Craiglist/p2p replacement and then scaling into eCommerce on the back of that because we're cheaper, and more reliable. While the dark market thing has a niche, its not the pathway to LARGE scale growth and adoption we're looking to see w this project.

I do see your point and you may be right nothing may ever come of it but I am glad you guys are taking steps to ensure the project succeeds and they will be no liability. I do love the vision the team has and by no means do I actually want the things I said happening its just fruit for thought. Keep up the good work!
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-*ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BITCOIN INTEGRATION* - FINAL BETA SOON on: March 01, 2016, 05:35:19 PM
I guess most of user didnt like the market. Everybody sell their syscoins.

Yeh I liked the market so more cheap coins for me then,

This can easily grow to be the new silkroad 3.0 :p

In my opinion, and you can also sell more stuff ofcourse.

Maybe you should add like a 18+ section to the coin.

Where you can maybe have like a illegal stuff section so the kids wont see the crazy stuff Cheesy

In general unless your browsing entire blockchaim through a web portal someone stood up the kids wont see that stuff. The idea is that the merchan creates his store and stands up a gui that only shows his offers

Remember, it's money/currency. And money in, and of itself, cannot be blamed for what is purchased with it. If someone makes an illegal deal using USD, the US Government can't be held responsible. By the same token, if someone uses the phone system to facilitate an illegal transaction, the phone system/company cannot be held responsible because the transaction was arranged over their lines.

This should be very interesting to watch as it unfolds....


Yeah it is not a good idea honestly I was joking earlier with the drop-ship listing comment. If drug listing started appearing and the marketplace took off the The Governments of the World cannot shut it down but they could shut down the developers; they're not anons and some live in the US. If anyone here thinks that because its decentralized that will protect the devs they are naive imo; By putting the screws to the devs(harassment, lawsuits, BS trump charges, etc.) they would probably succeed in freezing legitimate development on Syscoin(who can blame them, they have lives and families) and I seriously doubt anyone from the community would step up and fill the shoes of the devs so it essentially would kill Syscoin development for legitimate purposes. You can forget about partnerships with legitimate companies to if you have any kind of illegal listing on the marketplace. As a businessman I would see it as too risky a PR disaster waiting to happen. Just my two cents on why it shouldn't happen not trying to be a downer or anything but that's just the outcome I see happening if syscoin goes down that road. After the Silk Road trial I wouldn't expect them to hold anything back and actually play by the rules of the law.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-*ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BITCOIN INTEGRATION* - FINAL BETA SOON on: February 29, 2016, 04:20:04 PM

Thank you, and good question. Because the Syscoin marketplace is fully decentralized if someone (like the FBI) wanted to take down and item / the marketplace they would somehow have to take out every single syscoin node on the network to take down the marketplace. This is a near impossible feat I'd say as new nodes can always be stood up, the attacker would have to DDoS the entire network and any new nodes coming online and/or try a fork attack (and our merge mining with bitcoin will mean a very high hashrate that should insulate from that as well.)

On another note- I'm up and working on fixing that MacOS Beta build, thanks everyone for your patience. I will have this up and post to notify people ASAP.

Ok that is very nice, I imagine there will also be sold a lot of illegal stuff then Cheesy
Then there would also be no point to arrest the makers because they cant take it down anyway.

They could try to arrest the buyer and seller in the real world, but that would probably be hard.

I like to see where this is going imma buy me some more sys Cheesy



You already know ppl are gonna start drop-shipping deep web listing lol Wink Congrats team! Watch the show last night, great performance and responses keep up the good work the whales made my day with the dump!
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin-*ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BITCOIN INTEGRATION* - FINAL BETA SOON on: February 28, 2016, 08:24:33 PM
Yep until then loose hands will shake and well will catch!  Smiley
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