https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2066324.msg20643386#msg20643386Can someone confirm that these steps are safe? Also, can someone list an exchange that will generate a new deposit address for each transaction? Otherwise how are we supposed to stay private? Sending all of your coins into the same address, it's pretty dumb. You should use a different address for each public key, but the problem is, the exchanges i've tested don't generate new deposit addresses.... what can be done?
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If you spend all of your bch in one transaction then your Bitcoin addresses will be linked together. Exchanges should generate different bch deposit addresses however they may not be willing to generate multiple deposit addresses (if they don't then I suggest you use a different exchange). If you create several bch transactions all to the same exchange deposit address then you will lose privacy, although you can somewhat address this by sending several bch transactions to yourself.
In regards to step 5, yes you can safely send to SN exchange although you may encounter privacy issues (see my above comments).
In regards to step 4, you will have a similar bch balance as of your btc balance as of aug 1 at whatever block the chain split.
I am not 100% sure about the blockchain files referenced in step 2. If you can do this, you may need to take steps to ensure your node is looking at the correct blockchain.
You may be able to use a light client. I also believe you can broadcast transactions from one or more of the bch block explorers (possibly via tor) if you are worried about privacy and light clients.
I guess what we need now is a list of exchanges that generate a new deposit address per transaction, but I can't find such exchange. The ones I tried use a persistent one, at least Poloniex seem to not be changing the deposit address. How do we get past this?
I am not 100% sure about the blockchain files referenced in step 2. If you can do this, you may need to take steps to ensure your node is looking at the correct blockchain.
You may be able to use a light client. I also believe you can broadcast transactions from one or more of the bch block explorers (possibly via tor) if you are worried about privacy and light clients.
Im also not sure on this one. Im using the BCash node on another computer as theymos recommended, to not overwrite any files from Core's full node folder. What extra steps need to be taken? I was told the method of putting your wallet.dat on there works and you can directly send the coins to the exchange but I would also like some other people to confirm this is right. |
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Why are you people so obsessed with him?
Well, because he has supposedly a fuckton of bitcoins, and he has been the one using massive amounts of effort to advertise Bitcoin Cash. The least you would expect is that he sells what he says is shit, to buy his stuff which he says is great. Why we haven't seen this yet? He wanted to make public the BTE bet by signing the keys and so on. Surely he can prove to us that he does indeed put his money where his mouth is. Everything else is excuses. Cmon whales, where is the real money at? |
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...Well, BCC is BTE: ...
bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE  anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do. i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest? meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240 Roger will buy deep like 10-50$ then he will strt promoting that coin. He is not that dump he is acting like that . BTW i think he lost most his BTC and he jumped on altcoins train too. He was promoting those alts. I hope he will tay with that Bcash and fork away from BTC. They wanted BIG block so they have them now. He could dump now, and buy it back later when it's lower. I think BCC will have another artificial pump somewhere next month or god knows when. But this is not the point. The point is, if you believe in what you are saying, then put your money where your mouth is. Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.
No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC
Read above. If he believes what he says, he should have dumped already. But chances are he didn't do anything, because he's either scared to do so, or he is just promoting these hardforks to make more BTC from his cult following. |
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We all know the epic thread with Loaded and Roger Ver attempting to make the biggest bet ever. Roger Ver claimed he was down to sell his BTC for BTE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1836672.0He also now claims that Loaded pussied out. Well, BCC is BTE: The Return, and Roger Ver was endorsing it. He said BTC is useless now because it's too slow and too expensive, and that the market would choose BCC because it's faster and cheaper. The graphs seem to point otherwise. Roger Ver has surely dumped his useless BTC for fast and cheap BCC right? that's the minimum you would expect from someone that spends so much time promoting a fork. Same goes for Craig Wright and so on. Of course, unless when it's all said and done, all of them are a pussy too scared to dump in support of their fork and they all secretly keep their "useless" BTC. |
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What I find weird about the BCash chain is that the blocks seem to come in bursts... one block takes hours to mine, then one or two blocks follow in 10-30 minutes time. There is some talk about intentional block time manipulation ( https://www.coindesk.com/even-miners-hate-bitcoin-cash-might-want-mine/), but that does not explain the bursts. And yes, I did deposit BCH to Bittrex, but they wait for 20 confirmations! On that chain, by the time I was able to trade the price had dropped by half... I still have not withdrawn the BTC, still waiting for some trading opportunity, although I have ID verification there. One explanation I've heard is that they are doing this in order to avoid reorg, also something to do with difficulty readjustment... of course it's also possible other reasons are involved. Anyway, has anyone managed to dump yet? if so, in what exchange? (im in interested in people that did not have their coins in an exchange during the split, but someone that send their BCH to the exchange post-split) |
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Satoshi was active on this forum. Here are his posts. As you can see his last post was on December 12th, 2010. After that he has given no further information. Because SegWit was proposed far later than when satoshi left, he had no direct or official opinion on it, nor did he have an opinion on Bitcoin Cash.
Many supporters of Bitcoin Cash have argued that satoshi supported larger block sizes and opposed SegWit. It's difficult to suggest that he was against SegWit, and I think that this statement is made just because people see SegWit as being against block size increases. As for whether he supported larger blocks, it looks like he did. Whether he knew what the implications of larger blocks would be were the network under more stress I don't know, but personally I don't subscribe to the narrative that the block size can never be increased or that it's necessarily bad. A likely source of your information would be the subreddit r/btc. While uncensored (with open moderation logs), r/btc is mainly a protest against r/bitcoin, and therefore most people on that subreddit are in an echo chamber of supporting larger blocks, much like how people in r/bitcoin are in an echo chamber of opposing larger blocks. Personally I would suggest that you ignore both subreddits and simply learn about how Bitcoin works. Most people on the Internet discussing it are too biased to give neutral or reasonable opinions on the topic and it's hard to distinguish reason from bullshit a lot of the time. Satoshi said that he didn't want his software forked, so he would have been against Bitcoin Cash by default. He said me made bitcoin with the idea of supporting a lot of transaction formats. I have no idea what he would have said about segwit. I would like to see that, given how much controversy this thing has had. But what's guaranteed is, he would have opposed the hardfork. |
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 Looks like ViaBTC has signaled for segwit on there. There were also some other random miners signaling for segwit, and there's also some trolls typing shit like "Fuck Bitcoin Cash". Was the massive block of yesterday mined? Has anyone been able to desposit BCash in Bittrex at all? (and successfully sell it for BTC, then withdraw the BTC back to your safe wallet) I can't keep up with the lols. |
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Malignaggi Quits as McGregor's Sparring Partner After Photo LeakFormer two division world champion Paulie Malignaggi has had enough with UFC superstar Conor McGregor. Malignaggi, who retired earlier this year, was hired by McGregor to serve as a sparring partner in his ongoing training camp for the upcoming boxing match with Floyd Mayweather Jr. (49-0, 26 KOs). But on Thursday, controversy erupted after several photos from their most recent sparring session, which took place on Wednesday, began to surface on the social networks.  If you focus only on the photos, it would appear that Malignaggi was knocked down and given a proper beating during the spar. But Malignaggi claims the photo where he was down on the mat - was actually the result of a push. He also says McGregor's team released selective photos to create the appearance that McGregor had dominated their sparring session. Malignaggi confirmed to ESPN that he's quitting McGregor camp and is likely flying back home to New York. "I wanted to be part of this event, but I didn't want to become the story and that's what this has turned into," Malignaggi told ESPN. "I won't release any information about his game plan or what he's working on -- I wouldn't do that. But this has become a fiasco. It's a circus. And I do want that sparring video released. The UFC's PI definitely has that video. I understand it can't come out now, but Conor, if you have any balls, release what really happened." "There was a pushdown yesterday. Conor on the inside, he can get a little rough. He shoved me down, you know, but no knockdowns. Obviously, 12 rounds, you're gonna see there's a mark on my face. Very, very hard work for both of us. I was starting to get in a groove in the middle rounds, starting to land some good shots. Conor really came on strong in the end. It was back and forth." McGregor will make his pro boxing debut against Mayweather, who returns from a two year retirement, on August 26th from the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. http://www.boxingscene.com/malignaggi-quits-mcgregors-sparring-partner-photo-leak--119151 lol this is amazing. McGregor is great at playing mind games. He wants to fool people into thinking he is beating up former boxing champions in sparring, yet, he hasn't released a single minute of footage of actual boxing. Honestly I think this is bullshit. Malignaggi will probably leak some stuff to Mayweather now. He must be pissed. If you go to spar someone, you don't want any leaks, that is a bitch ass move, but in mind warfare anything goes, Conor will use anything he can, this is another one of his antics. I doubt Mayweather is faced at anything, too much experience and skill. I can't wait for this fight, it's going to be fun. It will. Though if there's one thing going for connor, it is playing games with his opponent pre-fight. It shouldn't be undermined thay connor is skilled with getting to his opponent's head. Just look at what happened to the aldo fight. I personally though that skill-wise, aldo is a lot more skilled and experienced than mcgregor. We all know how thay ended up with aldo being a bit too agressive. But Aldo is an amateur striker compared to Mayweather, and let's not forget this is a boxing match. Conor was playing in his field. Don't get me wrong, what he did against Aldo was impressive, but this is not an MMA match, we are talking about one of the best boxers ever, I doubt Conor can get inside his head at all. Also let's not discard this is another trick to sell the fight, like a pact between Malignaggi and Conor camp, but I doubt it, fighters got big egos, they are all rich and I doubt you can buy them at the expense of looking like you got beaten up. |
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Malignaggi Quits as McGregor's Sparring Partner After Photo LeakFormer two division world champion Paulie Malignaggi has had enough with UFC superstar Conor McGregor. Malignaggi, who retired earlier this year, was hired by McGregor to serve as a sparring partner in his ongoing training camp for the upcoming boxing match with Floyd Mayweather Jr. (49-0, 26 KOs). But on Thursday, controversy erupted after several photos from their most recent sparring session, which took place on Wednesday, began to surface on the social networks. If you focus only on the photos, it would appear that Malignaggi was knocked down and given a proper beating during the spar. But Malignaggi claims the photo where he was down on the mat - was actually the result of a push. He also says McGregor's team released selective photos to create the appearance that McGregor had dominated their sparring session. Malignaggi confirmed to ESPN that he's quitting McGregor camp and is likely flying back home to New York. "I wanted to be part of this event, but I didn't want to become the story and that's what this has turned into," Malignaggi told ESPN. "I won't release any information about his game plan or what he's working on -- I wouldn't do that. But this has become a fiasco. It's a circus. And I do want that sparring video released. The UFC's PI definitely has that video. I understand it can't come out now, but Conor, if you have any balls, release what really happened." "There was a pushdown yesterday. Conor on the inside, he can get a little rough. He shoved me down, you know, but no knockdowns. Obviously, 12 rounds, you're gonna see there's a mark on my face. Very, very hard work for both of us. I was starting to get in a groove in the middle rounds, starting to land some good shots. Conor really came on strong in the end. It was back and forth." McGregor will make his pro boxing debut against Mayweather, who returns from a two year retirement, on August 26th from the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. http://www.boxingscene.com/malignaggi-quits-mcgregors-sparring-partner-photo-leak--119151 lol this is amazing. McGregor is great at playing mind games. He wants to fool people into thinking he is beating up former boxing champions in sparring, yet, he hasn't released a single minute of footage of actual boxing. Honestly I think this is bullshit. Malignaggi will probably leak some stuff to Mayweather now. He must be pissed. If you go to spar someone, you don't want any leaks, that is a bitch ass move, but in mind warfare anything goes, Conor will use anything he can, this is another one of his antics. I doubt Mayweather is faced at anything, too much experience and skill. I can't wait for this fight, it's going to be fun. |
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he will again do the chicken dance like what he did to pacquiao
Why do people call it a chicken dance? People should have realized that its currently (if not the best) one of the best boxing style ever. It look not so cool for Mayweather, but being cool doesn't bring the victory. Mayweather is the best defensive fighter in the world but is it the best boxing style ever,i really do not think so. Mayweather is a boring fighter and that is a fact,the only positive advantage McGregor has is his youth and the unorthodox style as he is not a conventional boxer and Mayweather is a retired fighter and ring rust is an issue for most fighters,except Jon Jones and Dominick Cruz.  Only casuals don't like Mayweather. If you are into boxing then you would appreciate his style more. And it is a journey. He was a knockout artist in the past, as he became older he adapted to extend his career and make a ton of money, still undefeated. You can't blame him. It's exciting to see him dodge everything and outbox his opponents. Everyone wants to see him lose but no one can find the blueprint to get it done. |
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Offloaded mine yesterday on Bittrex at $700. I think we have seen its all time high. Note: the only way i had it on bittrex in the first place is because I chose to leave my BTC there after bittrex made a statement about what they were planning. I think the wallet is still under maintenance though, so no withdrawals or deposits yet. Well, this explains everything. Seems like every single exchange doesn't accept new BCC deposits, or withdraws. The price discovery is not possible until a true market is enabled. Right now only people that had their BTC on the exchanges is doing any trading, and trading without being able to withdraw means nothing. Im afraid once the whales are able to deposit their millions of BCC, we are going to see one epic dump. |
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Anonymint aka iamnotback has been a Monero fan and contributor for a long time. Why do you post this in such a negative manner? Do you understand the article's arguments? You just link to the article on Steemit and ask if all anon coins 'are fucked'? No, Monero is not 'fucked'. It's doing very well. Pointing to flaws is being positive towards an open source projects, that is how open source projects improve, you put it in the wild, it gets attacked, then you fix whatever problem, so he is doing a favor to the Monero community. Im not a coder, I guess you and the other guy replying here also aren't. Im not a blind fanboy of any coin or of any person in the space, im just posting his effort here, and now I need some other coders to review this, ideally from different teams. So since im not a coder I need to outsource these technical problems into others. Let's see if we have some valuable replies here. Im not holding XMR, DASH, or any other "anon coin" so I don't really care if it crashes. If it crashes really low and these problems can be fixed, that's called a buy opportunity, but he's describing it as design flaw.. Well said. I am also looking for some discussion from outsourced experts to refute his claims. There are some smart people holding decent amounts of Monero so im sure they are interested to see this. For instance that Risto guy that owns a fuckton of BTC, also invested a lot in XMR, so I wonder what he has to say. Also Greg Maxwell, everyone knows he is a smart guy, and he officially supports XMR, he has a donation address in the forum. So I would like to see what these 2 think. |
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Ok so from what i've read now, the price is going higher because people aren't being able to dump their coins. The exchanges have frozen their BTC funds or something.
I still havent tried dumping BCH because I haven't had the time to set it up properly, I want to be sure I dont have any problems like replay attacks and so on.
Has anyone tried to dump their BCH successfully at all??
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I saw the Instagram post by Floyd Mayweather and I think it's just an ad work. Grant paid Mayweather a ton of money to make that post advertising their glove brand, he gets a ton of money from a single Instagram post AND he keeps promoting the fight and people talking about it in the meanwhile.
I don't think they will fight at anything but 10oz gloves. The official rules of Nevada say that you have to wear 10oz at 154lbs, otherwise it's not a proper boxing fight, unless Mayweather can somehow change the rules to make it possible to fight with less oz at that weight.
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Looks like my last moment decision to hold the damn coins was a good idea. It initially instadumped, but I knew these fuckers would pump this because they love to pump, ETC style. Roger Ver and co are the Barry Shillberts of ETC in BCH.
It's going to be a good hold for a while while they pump it. It seems it's all about jumping ship before the big whales get tired and dump a fuckton of BCH.
For now I guess I will hold this and see where it goes, but I don't believe for a second in the long term viability of Bitcoin Cash.
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Anonymint aka iamnotback has been a Monero fan and contributor for a long time. Why do you post this in such a negative manner? Do you understand the article's arguments? You just link to the article on Steemit and ask if all anon coins 'are fucked'? No, Monero is not 'fucked'. It's doing very well. Pointing to flaws is being positive towards an open source projects, that is how open source projects improve, you put it in the wild, it gets attacked, then you fix whatever problem, so he is doing a favor to the Monero community. Im not a coder, I guess you and the other guy replying here also aren't. Im not a blind fanboy of any coin or of any person in the space, im just posting his effort here, and now I need some other coders to review this, ideally from different teams. So since im not a coder I need to outsource these technical problems into others. Let's see if we have some valuable replies here. Im not holding XMR, DASH, or any other "anon coin" so I don't really care if it crashes. If it crashes really low and these problems can be fixed, that's called a buy opportunity, but he's describing it as design flaw.. |
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As expected, Bitcoin Cash would make exchanges that accept it a massive mess. Now Kraken has all the deposits frozen waiting for Bitcoin Crash to mine >1MB block, and they also got their website down and a Cloudfare is showing up so this points to a ton of traffic making the site unstable.
I was trying to browse it later and the charts were already starting to go really slow. Looks like everyone wanted to dump BCC at once = exchanges crash.
Meanwhile, Bitcoin Crash chain is 42 blocks in delay compared to the real Bitcoin chain lol.
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