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421  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Looks like the Government has already made up its mind on: December 29, 2013, 04:42:55 AM
Looks like the Government has already made up its mind. without understanding any thing.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Bitcoin-may-be-used-by-hawala-traders-Officials/articleshow/28067184.cms


This is going to  backfire, so badly, i'm gona sit back and watch it explode.




"We are doing a background check on each and every customer, particularly those involved in transactions worth more than Rs 10 lakh," said an ED official.


 RBI deputy governor KC Chakrabarty said those who understand it and take a risk are free to do so with their money. "Whether it is... legal or illegal, we don't know. If it crosses the limit of legality then people may face a problem. So people should be cautious, should understand," he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/No-move-to-regulate-Bitcoins-RBI/articleshow/28071044.cms

Yup, its like shoot first and ask questions later.

look at hos absurd this statement is, its like saying you can do what ever you want with bitcoins it may be legal, or illegal we dont know but you will be in deep shit if we make it illegal.
422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 29, 2013, 03:35:00 AM
Looks like owning bitcoin is going to be illegal in india.
423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 29, 2013, 03:14:16 AM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Bitcoin-may-be-used-by-hawala-traders-Officials/articleshow/28067184.cms

Looks like The government is starting to demonize bitcoin users.

The bureaucrats in india is like the Vogons. regulation will take about another year and  they will try to get  people the bribe them for favorable licensing and deny licence to any one  that goes through the proper channel .
They are looking at this as a centralized currency base and must be looking for  satoshi to arrest. lol
424  Local / Press & News from India / Looks like the Government has already made up its mind on: December 29, 2013, 02:04:52 AM
Looks like the Government has already made up its mind. without understanding any thing.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Bitcoin-may-be-used-by-hawala-traders-Officials/articleshow/28067184.cms


This is going to  backfire, so badly, i'm gona sit back and watch it explode.


425  Local / India / Re: Cash Deposit Network or Prepaid Card Service for Bitcoin in India on: December 29, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
I think the Unocoin that is launched now actually started working a year ago !!!


Why does this  feel like a  sockpuppet
426  Local / India / Re: Look at the charts (Bitcoin dont give a Crap about India) RBI on: December 29, 2013, 12:51:04 AM
In India a person can live on less than 100 Rs per day. You can't live in the US with even 2$/day. PPP is a much better indicator than nominal GDP I believe, and India is already 3rd over there (EU shouldn't really be counted)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29
WOW.. that is something new and proud to hear... Smiley

Its a shame that people live in less than a 100Rs a day. That shows, the living standards of people have dropped to such a level.
427  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Bitcoin Company Owner Investigated? on: December 28, 2013, 11:33:56 AM
Rs 20-30 crore spread over 400 people! That's kind of extremely huge transactions. I hope he was not actually involved in money laundering. The average user's transaction comes down to Rs 750,000. I don't think transactions like these will get ignored by banks in India.

What i think they did was look at his btc address saw the total transaction and then calculated it with the  highest point btc was at. he did have over 1000 btc when he started 1.5 years back
428  Local / India / Press release, is that going to be helpfull. on: December 28, 2013, 11:12:53 AM

The Press release.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=388792.0

Contributed by alot of people and  took some time with discussion and finally we were able to get this drafted out.

I am hoping the community can do this type of  collaboration by getting together and and making things happen more often from now onward. The creation of this draft was possible because every one got involved and contributed.

Thank you all.
429  Local / Press & News from India / Re: The Indian Bitcoin Community Press Release. on: December 28, 2013, 10:59:52 AM
Thanks for putting it up :-)
430  Local / India / Re: Meet Media - Raise Awareness on: December 28, 2013, 07:21:02 AM
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431  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Some more clarity on: December 28, 2013, 06:30:53 AM
Can naavi also take a look at the draft and see what he thinks about it and is it good for the community to do so.

We should use his article as the front page for this. It is perfect and encompasses many of the thoughts and questions that we have had for a long time..

Please tweet it out to everyone individually if possible, we must get people aware of what is happening.

Yeh! agreed . but the community has to make its statement too.  please inform us what he thinks about it, after reading it.

Mailed him.

Document looks fine. He would retain focus on the legal aspect and the forum can maintain focus as in the document.

Will send a screenie of his mail to sub..

Sure that will be great. thanks :-)
432  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Some more clarity on: December 28, 2013, 05:50:07 AM
What are the tax implications when trading and making profit through bitcoin exchanges like bitstamp/mtgox for a resident indian?



Capital Gains tax
433  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Some more clarity on: December 28, 2013, 05:39:10 AM
Can naavi also take a look at the draft and see what he thinks about it and is it good for the community to do so.

We should use his article as the front page for this. It is perfect and encompasses many of the thoughts and questions that we have had for a long time..

Please tweet it out to everyone individually if possible, we must get people aware of what is happening.

Yeh! agreed . but the community has to make its statement too.  please inform us what he thinks about it, after reading it.
434  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Some more clarity on: December 28, 2013, 05:09:37 AM
Can naavi also take a look at the draft and see what he thinks about it and is it good for the community to do so.
435  Local / India / Re: Emergency Meeting- on IRC today Every on login on: December 28, 2013, 02:25:17 AM
when can we expect the press release?

Today i guess. lets see what every one comes up with.
436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 27, 2013, 11:06:07 PM
Wikipedia says that under FEMA any foreign exchange activity is illegal unless expressly permitted.  This is a very unusual and harsh law by English law standards (which India follows because it used to be an English colony).

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Exchange_Management_Act

Looks like bitcoin will stay strictly black market in India for the foreseeable future.  
Not was its still under English Colony (Politically and Living under donationation)
The fact is Indian ED officer himself dont know what actually bitcoin is,
RBI also dont know what bitcoin is and what is its purpose,
They are thinking about ML but they are not thinking if there will be no any ligit then it will appear as ML if they will open ligal option then they could track the transaction and all will be under AML rules.
This step will be harmfull for Indian givernment itself.

This is the main problem  we are facing.
The india bitcoin  community got together  today. and  decided the first step is  to release  a  press release, so that the authorities can meet  with a delegation and they can  explain  what  bitcoins are and how  it  can be  uses.
In the past  every time  people  from india tried to meet the  Authorities  they  have always  stonewalled them and  never have they once  met any member of the bitcoin  community to  talk  or  even  a  dialogue  with us.  
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 27, 2013, 08:11:25 AM
I'm not sure what you think the global Bitcoin community can do about government oppression. If I had the power to stop any kind of global oppression I doubt India would be the country that I start with.

I dont know but a  few ideas would help alot.
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 27, 2013, 06:42:50 AM
Sad but not unexpected.

India has strong capital controls to try to stem flight.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2013/08/capital-controls-india

We should expect strong resistance from corrupt regimes everywhere.  But this is Bitcoins mission in action - providing modern financial tools to the other 6 billion people on the planet. 

I expect zero coin will to be a key weapon in fighting corrupt regimes. 

right now shit is hitting the fan in india.
439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help on: December 27, 2013, 05:46:36 AM
Bitcoin In India Under attack :- global community please help

After  the RBI (our central bank released the press release )http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/BS_PressReleaseDisplay.aspx?prid=30247

They has started raiding the  only manual exchanges in the country.  http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-first-time-in-the-country-ed-raids-a-bitcoin-seller-in-ahmedabad-1941187
And looks like  they want to go after the  users  too.

i have  setup a  IRC channel for every one to get together  and  find a solution to this. would like it if the international community would help this  small group https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386916.msg4163880#msg4163880

Update:-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Bitcoin-may-be-used-by-hawala-traders-Officials/articleshow/28067184.cms

Looks like The government is starting to demonize bitcoin users.

Now they have started calling all bitcoiners Gang

http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/bitcoin-gang-gets-67-new-ecurriences-value-grows-to-13-bn/article5515128.ece

I am starting to re-think why i would want to stay in such an ignorant country.
440  Local / India / Emergency Meeting- on IRC today Every on login on: December 27, 2013, 05:38:56 AM
Meeting to  draft a  press release. please get involved.

Meeting starts at 4:00pm IST

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