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481  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Bitcoin gains currency in India on: December 19, 2013, 03:50:15 PM
Is this site by Sunny Ray and is he on the forum?

Another thing has anybody traded with the site, how the experience if yes?
Also, the site states that strict buying and selling rules applies? What the limit currently anybody?

Just  use INRBTC its a better  choice if you want to trade  according to your  own rules. otherwise  you can always  use buysellbitcoin.in for emergency purchase.
482  Local / India / Re: Any solutions for a problem? on: December 19, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
Fixed rate of distribution of the Crypto at a set price with inflation calculations to raise the price marginally every day?

Free market equilibrium will reject the notion of set/controlled pricing model and the whole thing will collapse on its head because it is not backed by anything.

I find the idea of demurrage and Freicoin's implementation very interesting. Its a brave attempt to code a very real crypto problem. I am not saying its a good solution, only time can tell but its the correct identification of the problem and a laudable attempt. It forces us to see Freicoin as something other than a commodity (which ironically might spell trouble for them in the long run if it does not get retail traction). It might be ahead of its time because no matter what we say as a community we don't actually see cryptos as a currency, we see it as an avenue for a quick buck - well most of us anyway.

Inflation I think should not be applied to price but to purchase parity. In due course purchase parity of what you have in hand erodes when supply increases. What a dollar can buy for you today will always be a lot less than what a dollar can buy for you in 1900. Friecoin tries to reduce what you have in hand when the real solution I think should be to reduce the value of what you have. In real terms this is done by increasing money supply. The Fed Reserve does this by continuously printing money from thin air - (the world's greatest Ponzi scheme if you ask me).

Can we code for inflationary tendencies, sure we can. Each year a variable number of blocks can be made available to be discovered thereby keeping monetary supply infinite and adaptable year on year. Coins that go out of circulation and/or hoarded are not such a big problem. The variable can be determined based on a number of factors that effect the ecosystem. Keeping variable discovery as an option also mitigates early mover advantage to some extent, because every year more people can join in. Reinforced supply will keep the exchange price in check as well which will also have an influence of the difficulty of mining.

 

now this is  some thing  to think about.

Freicoin has attempetd to  do   some  thing  to  spur a change in the was currency circulation is done. but not  perfect  enough ..

I do think  that  there  could  be a  better  way to  implement a  system, that would sustain it self in a turbulent ecosystem, some thing that can be  perpetual that adjusts it self  on the  bases of the  total volume movement  of coins, that  adjusting  keeps  hording  at  check. adjust the  coin supply up or  down  based  on the  network  and   economic status. i  dont  think a cap  on the number  of coins  can  be  set, given  the  number  of  coins  that do  get lost. That too need to be  factored in.

But a  fixed rate  on  crypto  is  a  disaster waiting to happen.
483  Local / India / Re: Any solutions for a problem? on: December 19, 2013, 04:07:33 AM
I agree completely that this anyone calling this an investment product is making a scam statement.

but, most of text that you have posted, points back to the ideology rather than something that can be assured in code.

Yes the problem with this is that when you  assigne an object a value it can be used both in terms of investment and  barter(money).

How we distinguish this and make it  implemented is to make people realize it is  a  better  option as a  transactory medium than investment.

I cant  fathom how this can be implemented in a code. 
484  Local / India / Re: Any solutions for a problem? on: December 18, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
Bitcoin Exchanges/ brick and mortar end points will always be the weakest link in the eco-system. We just got a full HD demo from China today.
While, these moves cannot damage Bitcoin much, by design, Bitcoin was meant to be more of a F2F kinda commodity.

How can these F2F transactions be tracked and how can they influence/ set the market prices?

Anyone who has been working on something like this and would like to exchange some notes would be awesome.

Have you read  the  forum post  in which  Satoshi Nakamoto , talks about the  Wikileaks acceptance of Bitcoin, he said  that  this  would not bee  good  he did not  want  a  sudden  world wide  interest in  bitcoin, and was  warning  against it. 

The reason he  was doing this  is that he  knew that sudden  acceptance  of  bitcoin  would , Firstly, it would raise  prices which  crates Bubbles, always.  Secondly, it would give  Authorities  very little  time to  understand the  concept and  mostly get it blocked.

The  problem China faced is that The  Investors got to it. Investing  in Bitcoin  in  such institutional manner  would always  be  bad.  China  has alot  of   Bitcoin  Vendors, sellers and  service provider, it  was not  in proportional manner to the investors and service providers.

I  blame the  Investor  factor  to this fall. the Tulip madness was true  in case of  china. Now  that the Chinese  government  has asked banks to  stop working  with bitcoin  companies . the  only option  the bitcoin  companies  have is  a  Face to face  exchange. or a  distributed  network  to  collect  cash but that would  cost  to much. Right now  bitcoin is  not  so strong  that it  can  survive  without  a  banking  facility . it needs the  existing  banking  infrastructure  to   grow. Now,  the  only  bitcoiners  that  will be there in china  are  the  hobby based bitcoiners, bitcoin miners, the mining  companies, and  a few    goods and  service providers. in a way  is  a  good thing bitcoins  would  go back to the  tech  guys again.

For  China  i  say this  was a  Good  thing  that happened  to them,  this came about  when  china  now  has  a  lot  of bitcoin and  litecoin already in  the  country. It  will give rise  to  innovative  solutions  and workarrounds that  we  need in a  case  of  a non -banking  environment. Atleast  it  will be  a  good  Test  environment.

What i Caution India with is that, not  to hype  Bitcoin  as a  investment  tool. this hype  will  create  a  much unneeded bubble. Investors in the  currency  is not  a  requirement, Bitcoin is a  currency  system it  was  designed to  be  used  as  such it needs to  be conveyed  that Bitcoin  is  a  currency not a  investment  tool. we need to  first  start  having  some  online stores and  merchants  start  using   bitcoin.  keep the  press  away  from  blowing  this  out  of   proportion, and have  more  technically sound  people  involved in  the  bitcoin  community, in  building  a   community  that can help  things  grow.  This is an opensource  project  the  concept of an opensource  project is  user freedom and  public collaborations, the community  needs to   be  more  involved in helping  others and  working  together  in  building  ideas. Business type of  things are  good. But right now, at this  point is where a community is needed, not  business cutthroat competition, and giving  luster shine  information to  gullible people(face it  there are alot of   idiots  out there). Business  cutthroat  involvement  can  come  later  after  2-3 years. India  is at a stage then  when bitcoin  were  first released when the  community  was the  one  supporting  the project  the  ones  who contributed  to  open ideas and  collaboration  were the  ones,  that  was  able to  help bitcoin come  to the  point  it is at now. It needs it  community  to  work  together first.


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Bitcoin Exchanges/ brick and mortar end points will always be the weakest link in the eco-system.
Not really  we  need is  a  exchange  that can  be  viable  in  a   banking  blockade type situation, pick points  and  third  party  payment  processors, an exchange  can  use. and in  the goods and  services part  we  dont  actually need the   physical  shops  any more  it only  needs   a  good  amount  of online traders and  service  providers working on it.


485  Local / India / Re: BTC Going back to $100 on: December 18, 2013, 08:56:04 AM
Ha, under 500.. This bites..
yup and think now i am  gona  start buying big. heheheh.  lost  alot in the  last rise. going to  make a  killing in this  fall.


Pls read the full article It's a very good read
http://www.businessinsider.com/williams-bitcoin-meltdown-10-2013-12?IR=T

Any views on the article?

Fear mongering total FUD, mostly financed by bankers to write this  article. Money talks.

Dont  believe  every thing they say. These people  are  from the conformist government  obeying  sheep's  will believe  what ever  any institute tells them to believe in  
486  Local / India / Re: BTC Going back to $100 on: December 18, 2013, 08:51:04 AM
Ha, under 500.. This bites..
yup and think now i am  gona  start buying big. heheheh.  lost  alot in the  last rise. going to  make a  killing in this  fall.
487  Local / India / Re: BTC Going back to $100 on: December 18, 2013, 06:48:15 AM
at what rate do you guys expect btc to go? and do you think will it stabilize or again shoot up to 800 usd?

it  will go  down to 400 . and then stabilize to 500 for the next 6 months.
488  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Bitcoin gains currency in India on: December 18, 2013, 06:30:44 AM
Also you would have a better idea on this as you are on their frontpage too .  Tongue

Lol, not anymore.

Benson just became Carol.
One pointer to note. They need PAN and accept only NEFT but Carol looks and sounds (not so Indian) *cough* *cough*

She has been involved since the start. She is infonetenergy's wife.

That is worst than putting your  name in it. is't Infone...... sunny. the same guy from Coinmonk. that started this  website.

489  Local / India / Re: A New Meetup group in Bangalore on: December 18, 2013, 02:51:16 AM
yeh may be do  regular weekly or bi-weekly meetup on IRC. that should help have some good experts on it to answer questions and help people through any questions they have.
490  Local / India / Re: Bitcoin in TV series ALMOST HUMAN on: December 18, 2013, 02:36:09 AM
Bitcoin mentioned in a TV series, Almost Human.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3336036/

Almost human, Season 1, Episode 6 @ 30:40.
A girl forced to pay using bitcoins so that her illegally stolen artificial heart will function another 30 days, until next payment of 4,999$.

To those want to watch show, BIT torrent is an easy way.

SPOILER ALERT:

00:30:27,696 --> 00:30:30,197
It's another Vastrel Alpha.

00:30:33,668 --> 00:30:37,004
My mother used to hide money in her sock.

00:30:43,044 --> 00:30:45,012
Bit coin.

00:30:45,046 --> 00:30:47,081
Totally untraceable.

00:30:47,115 --> 00:30:49,116
How much has she got on there?

00:30:51,753 --> 00:30:54,321
4,999.

00:30:54,356 --> 00:30:56,223
She <i>was</i> going
to make her payment.

00:30:56,258 --> 00:30:58,392
They didn't care.

00:30:58,426 --> 00:31:00,461
We were right.

00:31:02,464 --> 00:31:04,832
They're shutting down.


Yeh i saw it yesterday it was funny seeing them look at a small device that looked like a future Trezor.

Oh and bitcoins was also mentioned in the cartoon Simpsons , by crusty the clown. funny he said that he made bad investment in bitcoin and lost everything. reminds me  of all the noobs that keep crying  after a whale pumps and dumps.
491  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 18, 2013, 02:34:30 AM
Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change.

What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change.

Honest opinion of Laxmicoin:
It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin.
It is not a long term coin Sad.. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast.

If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works.

1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Wink


Again with the ripple crap.  trust me  ripple doen not  have  any thing  that is  self  containing . It needs  constant input  regulation and  human interference. there is not  difference  between  how  ripple  and  actual  currency  works, this holds  true  for  the  Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how  the  coin  should  behave  will make in no  difference  to  what fiat  is , Prone to inflation and  flawed.  Trust me  when ever  there is  a cloak and dagger involved it's not  good  for a  community  born out of a  opensource  program

By the  way  it is  regulation and  excessive  control by governments that make the  current  fiat  system  flawed. The bitcoin  network  removes  that flaw  by  making  sure  a  system is not  tampered and makes  all  transactions  open and public.

A  simple word this is not  a long term coin  when the  creators hold  all the  coins and  can  set  price  and  market  fluctuation to their  will.

An a non-open source  crypto coin sounds  like  a  breach to the MIT licences.  but who  knows Laxmicoin could  have  built it  by  scratch and implemented their own algo. cant  say any thing  about that without  reviewing the  code.  



Thanks for input but market  fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300

it is considered too be biggest market  fluctuation of century Smiley  

Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day

These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin

Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam

the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long  at there are  isolated exchanges the price fluctuation  will be  manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year  there is  spike in bitcoin prices and every year  the  ratio at which this  spike happens  is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency  is  loosing  grips in  manuplating the  market as more  distribution of  bitcoin happens.

however with a system like Ripple and the one you  are proposing it  will  fluctuate, due to many reasons , government  intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a  person holding  a  large  amount of the premined coins and many more.



How many people  have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin?

Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people

100,000 people out of 1.2B people  

By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it

lets think about this, What % Indians own computer?

Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin  or Bitcoin

our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it

if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know,  I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions

Well the problem is this, you'r proposal  suggest that there needs to have a central  authority.

this  central  authority  issues  the  coins. (This  it self  creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue  coins")

Issuing  central authority will hold all the  control on  what price  fluctuation it  will make. e.g today you may decide to  sell the coins at the rate  of  Rs. 10 for the next  1 years, and  for  some  reason  you  then  start  selling  it  for  Rs.2.

Or  some one  else on the market has a lot of these coins  and  then starts  selling  it  at Rs. 2  the you  start to  sell it  at Rs 2 to  make up  for the  cost, what is there to  stop such a  thing  happening.

You are  saying  you will make it  distributed to  other  using  it, and  will earn  your  coin  if they  contribute  their  computing power. How  will you track their  contribution. through  hash solution, or  login  time?

Then comes the problem  of  transaction processing,  with a DDOS attack on you  main  node  or  even  all the distributed  nodes  a  DDOS  attack can  be  sustained . secondly  what about the  51%  attack on your  coin, what if  some one  with  enough processing  power  gets  to your  network and  processes  his own  transactions  then  he  can   effectively  ruin  you entire  ledger.

The  other  big  problem , because it is  a central  authority issuing  coins  , what if a  hacker  gets to your  wallet and  destroyed all your  coins. how  will you  address this  problem. You will be  handling  a lot  of  coins  and  will most probably have to have your  wallet  with a  significant  amount of  coins  on it. cant  keep  transferring small amounts  from  a cold  wallet to a  hot  wallet  a 100  times a  day. 

the most  biggest  problem i  see is the DDOs on your  nodes. a  sustained DDos attack on the  nodes for  a  week would  mean  the coin becomes  as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have  verry little  number of  nodes.

Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy
and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public

Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this

but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple Smiley .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare


Well i like that you said that this is an  excelent  question but the  answer  was  not  excellent enough. The  bitcoin conference was not  a  conference in which the  indian Bitcoin community  attended and many stayed back  even  those  from Banglore, if you are under the  illusion that your  presentation  made  it  outside  that every one  now  know  the  answer  then you are  mistaken.  The  true  community is in here, and  the  answers  are being  requested here. and if you be  so kind as to  bestow  your  answers to us it will be  more than  helpful, or may be  even a  whitepaper. Right now  it looks like  you havent  started  with your  project and  doing this  just  to  hype  up  what ever  altcoin you would  release and  make  a  quick  buck on it.


Please don't make comments without knowing, We will release the details when required meanwhile you can do guess work


Well in that case i call it  bullshit. you dont  have any thing. and  just  another  Quick  money making  scam. If you do have a product i will make sure that you follow ethical process. ie opensource codes from a different program needs to be  credited to the right source. i hope you follow protocol especially when you are talking about your fictional coin.

p.s i am really good  working with Ida-Pro when i am determined to find code copyrights violation.

Good luck with your  endeavor and stay honest. Stealing from the opensource community will get your booted out.
492  Local / Press & News from India / This is how India should roll [Good job Denmark] Bitcoin Exchanges LEGAL! on: December 17, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
 Denmark makes it LEGAL to establish Bitcoin Exchanges

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2013/12/17/denmark-makes-legal-establish-bitcoin-exchanges/


…companies does not need any permissions to be able to establish their operation in Denmark if they want to run Bitcoin Exchanges that also include exchanging real money…
493  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Bitcoin gains currency in India on: December 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Has Coinmonk kicked off their site?

yeah, check out http://unocoin.com/

I tried to register, but no mail was sent to me.

Looks like  coin monk is  Falsely  advertising Benson Samuel name to  make  a buck.

What a  bunch of  scam artist.

Would not  trust  them .

Lemme talk to em first..

I just  had to do this.
Regardless if they  were  just  doing  a trial. Putting up  a  testimonial without  that person  actually  a being  able to  signup for that service. Its  cold. Way to  cold. 

494  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 17, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change.

What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change.

Honest opinion of Laxmicoin:
It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin.
It is not a long term coin Sad.. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast.

If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works.

1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Wink


Again with the ripple crap.  trust me  ripple doen not  have  any thing  that is  self  containing . It needs  constant input  regulation and  human interference. there is not  difference  between  how  ripple  and  actual  currency  works, this holds  true  for  the  Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how  the  coin  should  behave  will make in no  difference  to  what fiat  is , Prone to inflation and  flawed.  Trust me  when ever  there is  a cloak and dagger involved it's not  good  for a  community  born out of a  opensource  program

By the  way  it is  regulation and  excessive  control by governments that make the  current  fiat  system  flawed. The bitcoin  network  removes  that flaw  by  making  sure  a  system is not  tampered and makes  all  transactions  open and public.

A  simple word this is not  a long term coin  when the  creators hold  all the  coins and  can  set  price  and  market  fluctuation to their  will.

An a non-open source  crypto coin sounds  like  a  breach to the MIT licences.  but who  knows Laxmicoin could  have  built it  by  scratch and implemented their own algo. cant  say any thing  about that without  reviewing the  code.  



Thanks for input but market  fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300

it is considered too be biggest market  fluctuation of century Smiley  

Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day

These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin

Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam

the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long  at there are  isolated exchanges the price fluctuation  will be  manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year  there is  spike in bitcoin prices and every year  the  ratio at which this  spike happens  is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency  is  loosing  grips in  manuplating the  market as more  distribution of  bitcoin happens.

however with a system like Ripple and the one you  are proposing it  will  fluctuate, due to many reasons , government  intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a  person holding  a  large  amount of the premined coins and many more.



How many people  have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin?

Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people

100,000 people out of 1.2B people  

By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it

lets think about this, What % Indians own computer?

Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin  or Bitcoin

our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it

if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know,  I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions

Well the problem is this, you'r proposal  suggest that there needs to have a central  authority.

this  central  authority  issues  the  coins. (This  it self  creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue  coins")

Issuing  central authority will hold all the  control on  what price  fluctuation it  will make. e.g today you may decide to  sell the coins at the rate  of  Rs. 10 for the next  1 years, and  for  some  reason  you  then  start  selling  it  for  Rs.2.

Or  some one  else on the market has a lot of these coins  and  then starts  selling  it  at Rs. 2  the you  start to  sell it  at Rs 2 to  make up  for the  cost, what is there to  stop such a  thing  happening.

You are  saying  you will make it  distributed to  other  using  it, and  will earn  your  coin  if they  contribute  their  computing power. How  will you track their  contribution. through  hash solution, or  login  time?

Then comes the problem  of  transaction processing,  with a DDOS attack on you  main  node  or  even  all the distributed  nodes  a  DDOS  attack can  be  sustained . secondly  what about the  51%  attack on your  coin, what if  some one  with  enough processing  power  gets  to your  network and  processes  his own  transactions  then  he  can   effectively  ruin  you entire  ledger.

The  other  big  problem , because it is  a central  authority issuing  coins  , what if a  hacker  gets to your  wallet and  destroyed all your  coins. how  will you  address this  problem. You will be  handling  a lot  of  coins  and  will most probably have to have your  wallet  with a  significant  amount of  coins  on it. cant  keep  transferring small amounts  from  a cold  wallet to a  hot  wallet  a 100  times a  day. 

the most  biggest  problem i  see is the DDOs on your  nodes. a  sustained DDos attack on the  nodes for  a  week would  mean  the coin becomes  as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have  verry little  number of  nodes.

Excellent question and we actually answered this in our presentation in Global Bitcoin conference, We will have distributed ledger we are working on this strategy
and all Laxmicoin Wallet will be made public

Putting cap and setting basic valuation we are still debating on this

but in general also if you look Bitcoin is stolen so many times but no one could stole ripple Smiley .. although we are not working like Ripple but want to compare


Well i like that you said that this is an  excelent  question but the  answer  was  not  excellent enough. The  bitcoin conference was not  a  conference in which the  indian Bitcoin community  attended and many stayed back  even  those  from Banglore, if you are under the  illusion that your  presentation  made  it  outside  that every one  now  know  the  answer  then you are  mistaken.  The  true  community is in here, and  the  answers  are being  requested here. and if you be  so kind as to  bestow  your  answers to us it will be  more than  helpful, or may be  even a  whitepaper. Right now  it looks like  you havent  started  with your  project and  doing this  just  to  hype  up  what ever  altcoin you would  release and  make  a  quick  buck on it.




495  Local / Press & News from India / Re: Bitcoin gains currency in India on: December 17, 2013, 03:38:12 PM
Has Coinmonk kicked off their site?

yeah, check out http://unocoin.com/

I tried to register, but no mail was sent to me.

Looks like  coin monk is  Falsely  advertising Benson Samuel name to  make  a buck.

What a  bunch of  scam artist.

Would not  trust  them .
496  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 16, 2013, 11:18:35 PM
Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change.

What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change.

Honest opinion of Laxmicoin:
It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin.
It is not a long term coin Sad.. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast.

If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works.

1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Wink


Again with the ripple crap.  trust me  ripple doen not  have  any thing  that is  self  containing . It needs  constant input  regulation and  human interference. there is not  difference  between  how  ripple  and  actual  currency  works, this holds  true  for  the  Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how  the  coin  should  behave  will make in no  difference  to  what fiat  is , Prone to inflation and  flawed.  Trust me  when ever  there is  a cloak and dagger involved it's not  good  for a  community  born out of a  opensource  program

By the  way  it is  regulation and  excessive  control by governments that make the  current  fiat  system  flawed. The bitcoin  network  removes  that flaw  by  making  sure  a  system is not  tampered and makes  all  transactions  open and public.

A  simple word this is not  a long term coin  when the  creators hold  all the  coins and  can  set  price  and  market  fluctuation to their  will.

An a non-open source  crypto coin sounds  like  a  breach to the MIT licences.  but who  knows Laxmicoin could  have  built it  by  scratch and implemented their own algo. cant  say any thing  about that without  reviewing the  code.  



Thanks for input but market  fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300

it is considered too be biggest market  fluctuation of century Smiley  

Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day

These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin

Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam

the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long  at there are  isolated exchanges the price fluctuation  will be  manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year  there is  spike in bitcoin prices and every year  the  ratio at which this  spike happens  is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency  is  loosing  grips in  manuplating the  market as more  distribution of  bitcoin happens.

however with a system like Ripple and the one you  are proposing it  will  fluctuate, due to many reasons , government  intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a  person holding  a  large  amount of the premined coins and many more.



How many people  have Bitcoin, How many people in India have Bitcoin?

Our will be much more distributed then what Bitcoin can be, I am sure not more than 10,000 people in India have bitcoin or max 100,000 people

100,000 people out of 1.2B people  

By different mean of owning Laxmicoin we will make sure this is distributed right and try to do our best so more people can own it

lets think about this, What % Indians own computer?

Out of people own computer % are good for mining , In this case mass of the population will be left without any laxmicoin  or Bitcoin

our aim is to come up with solution which maximum people can use it

if you have suggestions we are open to idea please let me know,  I would love to have skype call with you and get ideas/suggestions

Well the problem is this, you'r proposal  suggest that there needs to have a central  authority.

this  central  authority  issues  the  coins. (This  it self  creates a problem "Why would a central authority issue  coins")

Issuing  central authority will hold all the  control on  what price  fluctuation it  will make. e.g today you may decide to  sell the coins at the rate  of  Rs. 10 for the next  1 years, and  for  some  reason  you  then  start  selling  it  for  Rs.2.

Or  some one  else on the market has a lot of these coins  and  then starts  selling  it  at Rs. 2  the you  start to  sell it  at Rs 2 to  make up  for the  cost, what is there to  stop such a  thing  happening.

You are  saying  you will make it  distributed to  other  using  it, and  will earn  your  coin  if they  contribute  their  computing power. How  will you track their  contribution. through  hash solution, or  login  time?

Then comes the problem  of  transaction processing,  with a DDOS attack on you  main  node  or  even  all the distributed  nodes  a  DDOS  attack can  be  sustained . secondly  what about the  51%  attack on your  coin, what if  some one  with  enough processing  power  gets  to your  network and  processes  his own  transactions  then  he  can   effectively  ruin  you entire  ledger.

The  other  big  problem , because it is  a central  authority issuing  coins  , what if a  hacker  gets to your  wallet and  destroyed all your  coins. how  will you  address this  problem. You will be  handling  a lot  of  coins  and  will most probably have to have your  wallet  with a  significant  amount of  coins  on it. cant  keep  transferring small amounts  from  a cold  wallet to a  hot  wallet  a 100  times a  day. 

the most  biggest  problem i  see is the DDOs on your  nodes. a  sustained DDos attack on the  nodes for  a  week would  mean  the coin becomes  as worthless as sand. Ckz you will have  verry little  number of  nodes.
497  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 16, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change.

What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change.

Honest opinion of Laxmicoin:
It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin.
It is not a long term coin Sad.. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast.

If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works.

1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Wink


Again with the ripple crap.  trust me  ripple doen not  have  any thing  that is  self  containing . It needs  constant input  regulation and  human interference. there is not  difference  between  how  ripple  and  actual  currency  works, this holds  true  for  the  Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how  the  coin  should  behave  will make in no  difference  to  what fiat  is , Prone to inflation and  flawed.  Trust me  when ever  there is  a cloak and dagger involved it's not  good  for a  community  born out of a  opensource  program

By the  way  it is  regulation and  excessive  control by governments that make the  current  fiat  system  flawed. The bitcoin  network  removes  that flaw  by  making  sure  a  system is not  tampered and makes  all  transactions  open and public.

A  simple word this is not  a long term coin  when the  creators hold  all the  coins and  can  set  price  and  market  fluctuation to their  will.

An a non-open source  crypto coin sounds  like  a  breach to the MIT licences.  but who  knows Laxmicoin could  have  built it  by  scratch and implemented their own algo. cant  say any thing  about that without  reviewing the  code. 



Thanks for input but market  fluctuation can never be more than Bitcoin, Within hours it changes upto $300

it is considered too be biggest market  fluctuation of century Smiley   

Exchange rate changes in hours and if you see it is stolen every other day

These exchanges make too much of money by selling and buying Bitcoin

Coinbase charges 10% for buying and 10% for selling .. this is completely scam

the market fluctuation is because of isolate exchanges. as long  at there are  isolated exchanges the price fluctuation  will be  manipulated by those holding the largest amount. but that hold is only temporary, every year  there is  spike in bitcoin prices and every year  the  ratio at which this  spike happens  is lowered. that shows the indication that those manipulating the currency  is  loosing  grips in  manuplating the  market as more  distribution of  bitcoin happens.

however with a system like Ripple and the one you  are proposing it  will  fluctuate, due to many reasons , government  intervention, economic collapse, internal rigging, DDos attack, on you main node, a mass dump by a  person holding  a  large  amount of the premined coins and many more.

498  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 16, 2013, 09:35:21 PM
Something that has been running through my mind is a foreseeable co-operation with current regulatory regimes until these regulations change.

What makes Crypto so invaluable is the speed at which it can adapt to the system and make a change.

Honest opinion of Laxmicoin:
It bridges a gap. A gap that can be covered quite well with a campaign for an Indian coin. Cannot do non-premined Indian specific crypto coin.
It is not a long term coin Sad.. We are behind those technologies now, but there will be a market for this for the next 5 years atleast.

If these are the options that you guys are considering as well, then I would kinda like to 'wait and watch'. There are several used cases for this kind of currency/ technology and it would be good to see how it works.

1 big problem that you guys will face is that once you'll get a legal framework in place, Ripple will take over that space Wink


Again with the ripple crap.  trust me  ripple doen not  have  any thing  that is  self  containing . It needs  constant input  regulation and  human interference. there is not  difference  between  how  ripple  and  actual  currency  works, this holds  true  for  the  Laxmicoin too. Regualtion on how  the  coin  should  behave  will make in no  difference  to  what fiat  is , Prone to inflation and  flawed.  Trust me  when ever  there is  a cloak and dagger involved it's not  good  for a  community  born out of a  opensource  program

By the  way  it is  regulation and  excessive  control by governments that make the  current  fiat  system  flawed. The bitcoin  network  removes  that flaw  by  making  sure  a  system is not  tampered and makes  all  transactions  open and public.

A  simple word this is not  a long term coin  when the  creators hold  all the  coins and  can  set  price  and  market  fluctuation to their  will.

An a non-open source  crypto coin sounds  like  a  breach to the MIT licences.  but who  knows Laxmicoin could  have  built it  by  scratch and implemented their own algo. cant  say any thing  about that without  reviewing the  code. 

499  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 16, 2013, 08:45:05 PM
subvolatil,
if you would attended the conference, you definitely would have better idea about Laxmicoin

Please list all your questions I will try to answer or we can have a skype call if you want more detail
and we will welcome your suggestions

How  about a  quick question  Like

 How is this  system any good.
Ans: Well if you ask me this is definitely very good ,  I can't make any comment about what you think Smiley

what are its  advantages.
Ans : Well Laxmicoin will be accepted by Indian retailers and we will provide support to price.. Difficult to answer like you wanted yes or no Smiley

Is it  based on the  bitcoin code,
Ans: No

 is it premined and the  big question is it  opensource?
Ans: premined but will be distributed for " Computing for good cause" You allow computing power for research purpose or some good cause and earn Laxmicoin



is this  being  used  for money  transmitting  purpose. correct me if i am wrong.

Ans: Even bitcoin is used for trasmitting money , all digital currencies used to transfer money ,  I am not sure what is your exact question?HuhHuh

Simple  yes  and  no would  suffice too.

correction  i should  have  said  transmitting  fiat  currency.

Thank you  for  your  answers  it  clears  up  alot  of things.

you missed out the  last and the most  important  question . is it open source?
500  Local / Press & News from India / Re: And now, a desi digital currency in the offing-Laxmicoin on: December 16, 2013, 08:25:47 PM
subvolatil,
if you would attended the conference, you definitely would have better idea about Laxmicoin

Please list all your questions I will try to answer or we can have a skype call if you want more detail
and we will welcome your suggestions

How  about a  quick question  Like

 How is this  system any good. what are its  advantages. Is it  based on the  bitcoin code, is it premined and the  big question is it  opensource?

is this  being  used  for money  transmitting  purpose. correct me if i am wrong.

Simple  yes  and  no would  suffice too.
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