Can Cryptonote coins fork?
You are posting that question on a forked coin He doesnt mean it that way, he meant if the network can fork - so we have multiple blockchains. The short answer is yes, that can always happen - like it can on blockchain, but as we dont incorporate some central nodes or other weird stuff its more unlikely to happen... Yes, thanks. I was just wondering because Cryptonote coins advertise being 'double-spend proof' and wanted to know if this was because however magical way the blockchain might be set up that nobody can fork it. But ok, thanks  |
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Can Cryptonote coins fork?
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I found & fixed a bug that made the Myriad Switcher slow down and eventually stop completely if the query for difficulties to the block explorer timed out. Fixed in version 0.2.9 http://bit.ly/MyriadSwitcherGUIThere's also a "Resume" button now that allows you to resume the previous mining session, while the "Run" button will start over Dazz, I'm loving the work! I think it's time to pay your bounty today--Send me an address and I'll award you the bounty Thanks bro. MPLArvmR7dQrF7BCPDFsRCniFnCJhZkG9d I'm still going to work on a Linux version, but that's going to take some time cause I need to recode the console because of lack of wxPython's html2 support in linux Excellent! The total bounty came to be: 51,500 (you can check the block explorer here: http://myriad.thwg.org/address/MKRadnUiH2yAxJ8nwKGk95SjtxpA4YZn4X) Sending now! Congrats and thanks for the hard work. Your efforts are very appreciated. |
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I found & fixed a bug that made the Myriad Switcher slow down and eventually stop completely if the query for difficulties to the block explorer timed out. Fixed in version 0.2.9 http://bit.ly/MyriadSwitcherGUIThere's also a "Resume" button now that allows you to resume the previous mining session, while the "Run" button will start over Dazz, I'm loving the work! I think it's time to pay your bounty today--Send me an address and I'll award you the bounty |
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Guys, i've just watched at blockchain and saw some strange things. There are a lot of sequences, where a lot of blocks are generated almost simultanously by one algo. And i don't know to think  You have to check, is it a problem with diffuculty adjusting, or just some suspicious fraud? For example here (~20 blocks instead of 1 by Scrypt in 2:30 minutes !!!) Difficulty~20-30 is related to Scrypt Block # Generation time Difficulty 259265 2014-05-22 22:40:52 26.19 259264 2014-05-22 22:40:50 25.666 259263 2014-05-22 22:40:46 25.153 259262 2014-05-22 22:40:41 3064.94522005 259261 2014-05-22 22:40:34 4994.81 259260 2014-05-22 22:40:24 24.157 259259 2014-05-22 22:40:15 23.674 259258 2014-05-22 22:40:02 23.2 259257 2014-05-22 22:39:58 22.736 259256 2014-05-22 22:39:57 22.281 259255 2014-05-22 22:39:50 21.836 259254 2014-05-22 22:39:49 21.399 259253 2014-05-22 22:39:47 20.971 259252 2014-05-22 22:39:42 20.552 259251 2014-05-22 22:39:32 21.305 259250 2014-05-22 22:39:21 22.157 259249 2014-05-22 22:39:17 23.044 259248 2014-05-22 22:39:13 23.965 259247 2014-05-22 22:39:01 4894.912 259246 2014-05-22 22:38:42 24.924 259245 2014-05-22 22:38:36 25.921 259244 2014-05-22 22:38:32 26.958 259243 2014-05-22 22:38:31 28.036 259242 2014-05-22 22:38:21 29.157 it's not a doublespend attack because there are few to no transactions in the blocks. this is a reorganization for sure. I'll ask the dev to look it up but they're common and all algos have them from time to time. Furthermore, I'd like to remind people that Myriad is the first multi-PoW coin, so there may be imperfections in the way the difficulties/reorganizations are handled. But these can always be solved, patched up, and understood better for the future. We don't have any coins to copy fixes from, we are at the frontier with Myriad and the problems we come across will be the blueprints for other inevitable copies/clones of Myriad's multi-PoW framework. Think Bitcoin in the beginning years. You just don't know what weird anomalies may arise that you have to patch for. It's positive, it strengthens us in the long run, and we set precedents with the innovative foundation we build up with Myriad. |
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Guys, i've just watched at blockchain and saw some strange things. There are a lot of sequences, where a lot of blocks are generated almost simultanously by one algo. And i don't know to think You have to check, is it a problem with diffuculty adjusting, or just some suspicious fraud? For example here (~20 blocks instead of 1 by Scrypt in 2:30 minutes !!!) Difficulty~20-30 is related to Scrypt Block # Generation time Difficulty 259265 2014-05-22 22:40:52 26.19 259264 2014-05-22 22:40:50 25.666 259263 2014-05-22 22:40:46 25.153 259262 2014-05-22 22:40:41 3064.94522005 259261 2014-05-22 22:40:34 4994.81 259260 2014-05-22 22:40:24 24.157 259259 2014-05-22 22:40:15 23.674 259258 2014-05-22 22:40:02 23.2 259257 2014-05-22 22:39:58 22.736 259256 2014-05-22 22:39:57 22.281 259255 2014-05-22 22:39:50 21.836 259254 2014-05-22 22:39:49 21.399 259253 2014-05-22 22:39:47 20.971 259252 2014-05-22 22:39:42 20.552 259251 2014-05-22 22:39:32 21.305 259250 2014-05-22 22:39:21 22.157 259249 2014-05-22 22:39:17 23.044 259248 2014-05-22 22:39:13 23.965 259247 2014-05-22 22:39:01 4894.912 259246 2014-05-22 22:38:42 24.924 259245 2014-05-22 22:38:36 25.921 259244 2014-05-22 22:38:32 26.958 259243 2014-05-22 22:38:31 28.036 259242 2014-05-22 22:38:21 29.157 Interesting, I'll run it by the guys |
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Let's agree to let nature run its course.
Fair enough. I'm out. Though if Bryce comes back with more lies (like $10 million market cap) I may have to call him out. Did you pick your nickname because you enjoy getting everything handed to you on a silver platter? Or do you just like drawing different mall routes with crayons for your citizens to act out when tourists visit? |
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I find it hilarious so many people hate Bryce Weiner. He's a brilliant guy who clearly has no patience for stupid and puts up with trolls 24/7. The guy is making a ton of money for himself and for his company, but nobody respects that part of it. He works his ass off, love him or hate him, and has put his reputation on the line in public. And foodies said it perfectly, Bryce still isn't even in control of anything for Myriad, it's simply a project for his company Blocktech to bring mining to developing nations. This takes...a LOT of work. A lot of work behind the scenes that you aren't seeing every day. The fools are the one who spend their time laughing and accusing and criticizing other successful people. What does the fool accomplish by doing this? Nothing. In fact, the fool does worse than nothing--he wastes his time and resources on meaningless vitriol when instead he could be doing things to better himself in life. This is why the fool remains the fool and the successful people keep successful.Viva la Myriad! (PS: For those who have wondered where I've been lately, I've just been caught up finishing research for my master's thesis that I've been procrastinating with. I haven't gone anywhere ) Are you not a fool for calling the fools who call other fools fools? This will come to bite you in the ass. Good luck with the thesis. Well, based on the definition of a fool I just spelled out for you, no, I'm not a fool. I'm stating the obvious which I feel is necessary since some rats have come out of the wordwork in this thread. There needs to be a balance between the insanity and sanity in this thread. Nothing will bite me in the ass. I keep working hard every day, providing help wherever I can, and being a nice person to others. |
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we need to update our pool listing. i want to find another scrypt pool since stablehash isnt being so stable recently
Nut2Pools! |
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I hope Darksend Masternode investors did their homework on Ring Signature technology. When coins already exist (Monero) that are more anonymous than Darkcoin/Darksend without requiring centralized nodes only accessible to those rich enough to afford the arbitrary amount, it stands to topple your whole system.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
Good point Except the fact that darskend nodes are not centralized. There is no "center" in the darkcoin network where there is some masternode that conducts the anonymous transactions and that you can only go through there. All darksend nodes / masternodes, are part of the network / p2p. Um, 59.9% of the master nodes are held up by amazon .. I'm not sure where you're coming from here... http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.htmlAnd even more still---being a masternode owner is now creating a class within Darkcoin: Those who can afford masternodes and those who cannot. The whole appearance that masternode owning is desirable and it creates this positive reinforcement on the price of Darkcoin is eerily similar to the positive reinforcement belief that BlackPool was going to create constant upward buy pressure. Darkcoin users have to trust that this Masternode implementation will not fail from being compromised, nefarious actions born from the power-gap of those with/without one, or the price bombshelling and masternode users aren't receiving profit as anticipated. |
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I hope Darksend Masternode investors did their homework on Ring Signature technology. When coins already exist (Monero) that are more anonymous than Darkcoin/Darksend without requiring centralized nodes only accessible to those rich enough to afford the arbitrary amount, it stands to topple your whole system.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
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So why implement this? Just for the sake of being able to? Obviously ring signatures are desirable since Evan stated he will code them in, so why not just do this to begin with instead of Darksend?
Darksend is older technology. I'm not sure the idea of ring signatures was even around when Darksend was thought up. Also, one of the reasons Darkcoin is growing so rapidly is because people want to be Masternodes, further funding Darkcoin in the process. Had people realized this earlier, I doubt Darkcoin would have the success it's having now. To back Darkcoin up, there is a concern that ring signatures might be exploitable in the future. If ring signatures will be an alternative choice for Darkcoin users, this directly competes against Masternode owners.
Which is why there is a growing popularity for Monero and Quazar coin. If anonymity is the objective, there are three services available now. Thanks for replying. Ring signatures were around a long time before Darkcoin was created. And yes, I understand Darksend creates desire to be Masternode owners, and with it being so expensive right now I really don't think it's a good idea to introduce competing technology that already undermines the need for a Masternode system in other anonymous coin ecosystems. Stick with Darksend, improve it if you can (apparently a new RC3 release says no potential ring signature integration). |
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Guys, I have a slight concern after reading that Evan is going to implement ring signatures down the line.If Evan implements Ring Signatures after DarkSend is complete, doesn't this render all the work done to create DarkSend and the Masternode system a waste of energy, time, and resources? Ring Signatures inherently don't require any masternodes to operate while arguably providing more anonymity via untranceable payments and unlinkable transacations, etc. etc (you all know this probably). So why implement this? Just for the sake of being able to? Obviously ring signatures are desirable since Evan stated he will code them in, so why not just do this to begin with instead of Darksend? If ring signatures will be an alternative choice for Darkcoin users, this directly competes against Masternode owners. If ring signatures will be the mandatory method of transactions for Darkcoin users, this is a redundancy that will simply be a waste of time and render DarkSend obsolete. I think Darkcoin is much better served to stick with Darksend since Evan already chose to do this first. Unless of course I'm wrong about something? I'm certainly aware I could be overlooking something. Not posting for FUD, just posting for clarity and sensible decision making in the future. |
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I find it hilarious so many people hate Bryce Weiner. He's a brilliant guy who clearly has no patience for stupid and puts up with trolls 24/7. The guy is making a ton of money for himself and for his company, but nobody respects that part of it. He works his ass off, love him or hate him, and has put his reputation on the line in public. And foodies said it perfectly, Bryce still isn't even in control of anything for Myriad, it's simply a project for his company Blocktech to bring mining to developing nations. This takes...a LOT of work. A lot of work behind the scenes that you aren't seeing every day. The fools are the one who spend their time laughing and accusing and criticizing other successful people. What does the fool accomplish by doing this? Nothing. In fact, the fool does worse than nothing--he wastes his time and resources on meaningless vitriol when instead he could be doing things to better himself in life. This is why the fool remains the fool and the successful people keep successful.Viva la Myriad! (PS: For those who have wondered where I've been lately, I've just been caught up finishing research for my master's thesis that I've been procrastinating with. I haven't gone anywhere ) |
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For someone who just wants to have a little fun with mining, is it possible to mine MYR coin with one of those antminer USB things?
Antminers are SHA256d right? If so, then yes! |
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Fundamentals have been negated by the number of coins. 300 million coins in circulation - dump fest. Difficulty on 5 algos hard to maintain due to lack of profitability. Coins easely mined - dump fest. I pray to God we live to see another pump.
The growth of the number of coins is predictable and has been predictable since day 1. This is the same with any crypto currency. I have no idea what you're talking about here. If you know the coin's specs, you can predict how many coins will be in circulation at any month or year, no surprises here. Part 1, the total number of coins: What lead troll here doesn't realize (I prezume he does but ignores in order to further troll) is that when there is a fixed cap on coin production the actual number of coins is irrelevant. Think of it as a pie, no matter how you slice it up, be it 2,000,000,000 , 2,000,000 or even 2,000 pieces it doesn't change the total quantity of pie you have. Same with a coin's value. If myriad would have had a total of let's say 2M coins instead of 2B you would not have 4 mil myr right now, you'd have 4000, and the total value would be the same. coin production would be of a total of 2800 coins per day and if now you could get about 600 coins per scrypt mh per day then you could only get 0.6 coins per day. tl;dr VOLUME IS AN ILLUSION WHEN THERE'S A FIX PRODUCTION CAP BECAUSE IT'S DIVISIBLE AND CUTTING A PIE IN 6 PIECES OR 60 PIECES OR 6000 PIECES DOESN'T MAKE YOU HAVE MORE PIE. Part 2, coin production: The fact that the first halving is so far away ensures a fair and wide distribution for adoption purposes. Only scammers and daytraders would say that a short lived distribution is better because then the price is easier to manipulate since no new coins come into play. But a fast distribution will only make a few rich while leaving others complaining they didn't have time to understand the concept or the dev instamined the coin for quick gains or some other shady stuff, which really is true, any coin with a halving faster than at least 4-6 months is only doing it for the profits because there's no actual way you'd be able to ensure a fair distribution for your coin in such a short time if you trully intend to create a coin and not a trading asset whose sole purpose is to generate a quick buck. tl;dr Long halving is good for a coin if that's what you trully want : A COIN, A CURRENCY, SOMETHING DESIGN TO BE USED AND SPENT NOT TRADED FOR A FEW QUICK BUCKS. Have I ever told you I love you? Thanks for explaining this in a better way. |
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Paper Wallet added to OP.
I think Dirac should have a fork of an Electrum wallet called Antimattum. I think Dirac PoW blocks should be called monopoles. I think Blake Ecosystem should be nicknamed the Dirac Sea. I think you should make a tweak to Dirac's Digishield and dub it Dirac's Hamiltonian. I think any future Dirac hardfork should be referred to as a symmetry breaking event. Your pal, neuroMode |
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I implore everyone to stick with their gut on this coin. A lot of Darkcoin fanatics will view Monero as a threat to their investment and spread nonsense. Some Darkcoin fantatics will share mutual respect, too.
Always remember the golden rule of negativity coming from other users: There is usually a premeditated reason for it.
My premeditated reason for saying this? I don't want this community to panic at all.
Trust your gut, do your research, and don't let anyone dictate your perception of this coin. You have a gem here.
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Hi everyone, been lurking for a long time, i'm the Rock, Paper, Scissors game operator (soon will enable more interesting things for MYR on the site). I'm currently developing paper wallets for each altcoin i like or i see some special purpose in it. MYR is one of those coins! Here's an early sample (imgur album): http://imgur.com/a/JGMr6The private key is under a scratch area and the material of the paper wallets will be like a business card (this prototype was printed on paper on my own laser printer). For security measures, the QR codes and keys are printed on a separate computer on adhesive paper (not seen in this prototype). This week i'll send the first color test, and i would like to know who's interested in these wallets... i'm going to sell them on 3-packs payable on each altcoin's denomination (no need to convert to BTC or the like). For example, at current MYR prices (495 sats), each 3-pack would be on the initial pre-sale batch valued at 2900 MYR. The nice thing is that a third of this sale will go to the Myriad foundation (the same with the other coins i'll be supporting) so they can continue to support great projects!!! Is anyone interested? Looks very very nice! I'll take some! |
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