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42441  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 03, 2014, 10:36:31 PM
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

not enough for 2 ants at max overclock of 554Gh


yeah but the 1300 is


http://www.rakuten.com/prod/evga-supernova-1300-g2-1300w-power-supply-110-v-ac-220-v-ac-input/249973555.html

cost 195 use code celebrate get 10% back in points.   buy a fan or something about two weeks for points for the fan to clear

also amazon may have this with a really good rebate.


http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-1300G2-ATX12V-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404426976&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300


here you go

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/00/00/54/78/62/84/5478628490._V349554416_.pdf


cost 154 after rebate.


has 6 cables but two cables have 2x connectors   so  2 single cables  and a double cable to one miner and 2 single cables and a double cable to the second miner
42442  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: July 03, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
I was reading the op and no longer see the 100  a week I see just 400 max per month.

This fine by me as I figure to make 450 TO 500 POSTS  this month.

So I do not need to track weekly any more.  First week I did 125 or so second week I did 125 or so.

Right now on the 16th or 17th day I am over 320. I do like this way as it keeps down the super posters and a 400 limit is

 really close to what I would normally do.

Thanks again stunna and if you celebrate it   {Not sure if stunna is USA based}

 

Have a happy fourth of July.!
42443  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin difficulty may actually go down in ~12 days! on: July 03, 2014, 10:03:42 PM

All those neptunes and s3's wont make the network go up higher. You can't add hashrate twice. That's what the recent jump was about. When they sell them and they get turned back on the hashrate doesnt go up again. It's already been factored in.



Which I think is the point being made. The assumption is that the drop occurs during the period in which the new miners are being packed, shipped and installed on the customer end. If that is true the its a false drop and very very temporal.
It will be for 10-12 days or 1 adjustment .  most likely  it will be a 4-6% jump not a drop
42444  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1450 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: July 03, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Hi may I know , how to you all read this https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty. Charts,  the calculation difficulty is base on one block Or?

your question is?  the next diff jump will be

or are you asking something else? 

I estimate jumps  by looking at two sites.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  =  16,818,000,000   to 18,389,000,00  9.34%


http://bitcoincharts.com/     16,818,000,000    to 16,659,000,000 = - .95%


they do 2 different methods do get the next increase    I have found the correct number to be in between their estimates

so  4-5% is a good guess for next jump.
42445  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: July 03, 2014, 08:59:04 PM
okay your cat 5 wire is direct  connect pc jack to s-1 jack  ?


next if it is   you type in 192.168.1.99 and no connect?


do an ip search   use advanced ip


http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/

free download  it will pop up all addresses on the network.

  1) so first unplug the pc from the s-1

   2) connect the pc to the net

   3) go back online load the scanner.

  4) then   connect to the  s-1  
 
  5) scan for the s-1  

  6) if nothing shows change the pc to   .0.  

  my guess is  
42446  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 400GH/s - how many BTC can you extract? on: July 03, 2014, 07:34:01 PM
so the point is 'DO NOT MINING'? am i right?
so if that's true now is time to move on altcoins Smiley

I'm writing a guide on why altcoins are, practically all, fated to fail.
I'll make it short here for you: everybody is accepting BTC, NOT altcoins.
Everybody is building infrastructure on BTC, only some accept some altcoins.
Everybody is investing in BTC, only some put something into altcoins.
If you have some exceeding money to trash, buy some altcoins and hope that in the future at least one will step up, otherwise stay far from them.
mining bitcoins is bad, altcoin is bad.. so what's exactly you ask us to do?
trading with big loose? or stop thinking about bitcoin and go away from this?

I ask you nothing.
And even more: I am nobody, not economist, not guru, nothing.
It's just my opinion, but if you open your eyes a bit it's not too difficult to try to forecast this environment.
Just buy BTC with fiat currency and wait.
Not the right time for mining, not the right time for buying too many altcoins.
IMHO.
dear godlike  like your name.  it is a nickname  use for a close friend.

while  respect your opinion of buying coins (btc ) and holding them.  It is a one dimensional approach .

I best guess is do mining and hold coins.

In order to do mining you need cheap power.  So some guy in iceland at 5 cents a k-watt with an sp-30 doing  .5 watts a hash is in good shape.

well 2 antminer s-3's pulling 750 watts to do 1000 gh are better if the power is 3.5 cents a k-watt.

So small miners will survive if they are creative about power.

Does it mean steal power no it does not.  Here  are great uses for 2 s-3's

 http://www.lemproducts.com/product/refurbished-stainless-steel-dehydrator/refurbished-products

food dehydrator


http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/drying-wood-at-home/

kiln drying wood

those products spend the same power with out mining if scaled correctly.

So that means free power for your miners.

These are just a few ways to compete against a huge Iceland spot.

Another way is any free power source of more then 100 watts use gear to solo mine.

Cost = zero  chance of collecting small.  but the idle gear will not  make money. and mining for free it could get lucky.

Small miners will not die off.  Simply because they will adapt.  They just won't have a lot of the network.  Of course a 50ph plant in iceland would be a huge target for terrorism but that is another pair of sleeves so to speak.
42447  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: July 03, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
I just received an AntMiner S1 and have connected it to a laptop with a crossover network cable.  I am unable to get to the log on screen when I enter the miner's IP address 192.168.1.99 in my browser.  I tried pressing the reset button and still nothing.  I have TeamViewer in case I need help troubleshooting the issue.

okay you need to determine if your network is 0 or 1   most are 0 or 1

192.168.1.1

192.168.0.1

so maybe look under your router  see of you find the 0 or the 1

I have a dlink  it is 192.168.0.1

so all my in network gear is set with  .0.    to have an instant work around I have a cheap  older laptop  set to  192.168.1.1

I never use it online I use it for antminers.  I plug it into my antminer and setup the s-1's

I then plug the antminer into my home network  with it changed to something like 192.168.0.230   with sixteen done so far  the last 3 numbers are used from 230 to 246
42448  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: July 03, 2014, 05:47:24 PM

I strongly suspect that we'll see a glut of mining hardware on the market in Q3 that hardware manufacturers can't sell at a profit, which will lead to consolidation and some companies folding.


Would you care to elaborate on this? This is difficult to ascertain, in my opinion because we don't have their profitability numbers. I just hope that the scammiest, lying companies will not survive. People in mining are incredibly forgiving, even stupidly so.

Without a technological breakthrough, ~.5W/GH looks to be about the limit using current technology, and we're rapidly approaching the point where multiple companies have fairly equivalent hardware (Bitmain, KNC, Spondoolies, and Bitfury). Future power efficiency improvements are going to be very hard to come by.

There are fixed costs associated with all miners for things like heatsinks, fans, power supplies, PCBs, board components, chips, manufacturing, and shipping, so there is a lower limit on miner pricing.

We know that Bitmain was able to make a profit when they sold the S1 at ~$250, and I suspect they can do the same with the S3, which would put the bottom floor cost of a S3 at around .5$/GH.

Spondoolies sold the SP30 at .69$/GH for the Roadstress group buy, and they have said multiple times that they won't sell hardware at a loss in SP10 discussions, so I strongly suspect their SP30 costs are around .5$/GH.

S3 ROI numbers look iffy at $1/GH and a ~17B difficulty, so who is going to buy all this new hardware at a 34B or 51B difficulty if the price to manufacture the hardware is ~.5$/GH?

Unless the price of BTC goes up, I think we're rapidly reaching the point where it no longer makes economic sense to manufacture new hardware, and will reach that point in Q4.

Well make the wall .5 watts  
 
 the lowest power prices are 6 or 7 cents a k-watt  make btc at 700 usd   so with that in mind . when diff reaches  

447g  vs the  16.8 g it is now   .  no one can make any money.

If you believe this is going to continue   btc will have to be higher then 700usd  by feb 2015.

maybe 1400 usd by feb 2015 or no gear is not worth buying

if bitcoin truly takes off, mining equipment (or 240v hookups and 300A panel) plus a small solar panel (2-5kw) might be included in some new housing construction.
I agree with the calculations, but it all depends on the price. With $2000 BTC tomorrow, antminer s1 will be flying off ebay at $400 and above and people will be fighting for preorders again.
  yep and price has had a history of big runups..    under 100 in sept to more then 1100 in nov  and 11x jump from 650 usd to 7100 usd would make all gear good again well .

 Any gear at 2 watts would be decent if price runs up.  I move slow now no more jumping in  I get 2 packs or 4 packs of gear.  I make and effort to stay under 600 usd worth of btc.

I made an exception buying the s-3's since I spent about 940 usd worth of btc for 2 of them , but I created a solid paper trail   of:

 bank account > coinbase> my btc address > bitmaintech.    I will not buy more until I get these in my hands and they work. 

So my next order may not be until Aug 1st.  more likely July 15th - 20th
42449  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer S3 - Profit is Impossible on: July 03, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
It isn't and every one of you posting this is wrong.

I have bought batch one S3's
I will profit with them
If you can't I don't really know what to say.

S1 owners like phillip (see above) took a chance and got lucky due to KNC, BFL, BA and others delivering late.  I have free electricity and I was still skeptical about ROI.  Considering all that late stuff is now delivering, I'll make a 1BTC bet with you that your S3 won't ROI it's BTC costs.  With the 25% jump this last period it's going to get nasty pretty quick.

Btc roi is really soooo hard to do.  I no longer make bets   but I would think that   to get a s-3 to return its cost of .75btc is not going to happen for most of us.

 USD roi is always possible.  Now many say but if you purchased the 0.75btc and held it   1 year later that was a better profit. 

Yes it is true that buying low and selling high may make more money.  But I am a USA guy I follow USA rules.
 Buying coins and holding them is passive investing as per USA tax law.
 Buying a miner mining with it and then selling it on ebay  involves up to three types of tax rules.

 1) mining which is an active business
2) resale on ebay I have an active ebay store
3) holding the mined coins  .  which is about the same as buy and hold tax law wise.

Many forum members are fully underground.  So they have different condtitions to consider then me.
42450  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: July 03, 2014, 12:00:10 PM
The estimate gets more accurate as we get closer to the next difficulty change.  If difficulty were to change now, there would be a 6% decrease.

This is exactly the same as ignoring the previous difficulty entirely and just using the time delta between blocks since it changed - the only difference is it produces wild swinging numbers for the first few days, instead of an arbitrary steady number that relies on irrelevant data.

lol.  Actually it's only wild swinging numbers for about 24 hours, then it starts to steady out.  And it gets more accurate as time goes by.  Last difficulty within a few days of change it was saying 15%.

And you have to ignore the prior difficulty entirely...

M

I go here: 

http://bitcoincharts.com/                            they say 16,818,461,371 jumps to 16,819,948,837  that is under 1 percent

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  they say 16,818,461,371 jumps to 18,726,927,772 that is 11.35 percent



I do this 1 time each day for the 11-12 days between jumps.       It just about always ends up in between the two.

So that will be 6%  based on today's numbers.   
42451  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: July 03, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
Made my first bitmain order. Anyone know how long it takes to get a payment verification email?
I don't think that I ever got a 'payment verification email' from Bitmain.  Just log onto your account on the Bitmain web site, if on the order list it says that the status is 'Paid Unshipped Valid' then you are fine.  If you click on 'view' for that order, you'll see the order details and that should say 'Pay confirm'.  I usually print a pdf copy of the order 'just in case'.
When it ships, sometimes you may get email notification, however the order status on the Bitmain page will provide the shipping status and tracking information, which you should then follow with whoever ships your miner (my preference is UPS, as they have been much more reliable than DHL, usually UPS delivered it ahead of the projected ETA).

Cheers


After I place order (which I pay in 1-3 minutes)  I always get the billing email from them 10 to 20 minutes later.  I reply to the billing email  with  "I paid this order"  and give them the tx id
42452  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: July 03, 2014, 03:30:51 AM
Stay on topic go spam someplace else no one wants to enter your raffle we want to talk about the S3 not scamming people into buying your raffle tickets


and the winner is number ?

Back to topic.

  I was wondering if  anyone got a coupon or if anyone has ordered in batches 1 and 2.

I am hoping I get it around July  9  10 or 11    as sometimes it comes early.
42453  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer S3 - Profit is Impossible on: July 03, 2014, 01:58:02 AM
That....doesn't make sense.  478Gh/s at 360 watts is either profitable for you or it isn't.    Having other devices mining as well doesn't contribute to the ROI of THIS device anymore than finding a hundred dollar bill laying on the ground does.

so i have 3 s-1's   i made about 100 usd on them.  they are undervolted-clocked   420 gh  560 watts.


if i sell them on ebay  for 500 as a set of three . it is the best price anyone sells a 3 pack for.

some buyer grabs them and is happy for the good price. as he has free power.

i  take the 500 usd and buy an s-3..  win win for all
42454  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Converting Old PSU connectors and cables into PCIE cables for the Antminer S3 on: July 02, 2014, 11:56:34 PM
Nice work! But it looks like too much work Smiley

Do you think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200106 would work fine for my purposes?


maybe


to be clear  if you put both molex to the same molex cable = not good


if each molex part attaches to completely different molex cables.  it the psu had 18 gauge molex cable .

if the  adapter wires are 18 gauge  it could work.

Im going to snip the molex off. Then connect all positive wires to a 14g wire and all negative to a 14g wire and run directly to a server psu.

that may very well be good.  I had some of those from startech I think they are 20 ga not 18.  but i have a lot of wires in my house so I am not sure.
42455  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BFL Monarch, in the Cloud.. (600GHs) on: July 02, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
What a mess, I feel terrible for people that lost their money to this company.  Yes, it is lost, getting 600gh at this point is a joke.  It's an expensive but very important lesson we can all learn from.  My guess is BFL has no choice but to scam their customers at this point.  I doubt they have the money left to provide refunds.

not to defend bfl.  as they have not done well by me,but  600gh hashing will earn something maybe 1 coin.
still looks like a big loss.
42456  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Converting Old PSU connectors and cables into PCIE cables for the Antminer S3 on: July 02, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Nice work! But it looks like too much work Smiley

Do you think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200106 would work fine for my purposes?


maybe


to be clear  if you put both molex to the same molex cable = not good


if each molex part attaches to completely different molex cables.  it the psu had 18 gauge molex cable .

if the  adapter wires are 18 gauge  it could work.
42457  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Looking for an enclosure for the s3 antminers any suggestions? on: July 02, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
I'm browsing around just ordered 10 of the S3's and looking for a enclosure for em anyone got any good ideas ?

wait until you get them.  this will

I'm just price shopping around now haven't seen any that really caught my eye.

I found solid shelf was better as it stopped heat rising from one shelf to the next
42458  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Looking for an enclosure for the s3 antminers any suggestions? on: July 02, 2014, 09:12:53 PM
I'm browsing around just ordered 10 of the S3's and looking for a enclosure for em anyone got any good ideas ?

wait until you get them.  this will allow for measurements.


 you may decide  5 shelf 2 per shelf with psu in the middle  of each pair is the way to go
42459  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1450 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: July 02, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Have they arrived?  DO they work as advertised?  What PSU did you use?  

They said they would ship them starting July 10. I will use a Corsair RM 1000. Exactly what i use for my two S1. I should be overclocking them to 504 gh/s. (more if possible. depends on temperature and HW %).

I wanted to buy an EVGA SuperNova G2 1300W but there is only 6 PCI-E, you need 8 for two S3 if you want to overclock them. Otherwise, 4 is enough.

Have you found any overclocking info for the new S3's?



it is 8

2 wires   are double   4 are single

use 2 single wires and a double wire    for each s-3.

  I could go into a long explanation but  it should work.   Since you will pull under 900 watts for the 2 s-3's  


 i have run 1215 watts on these evgas's  running  3 s-1's no issues.

btw if you go to newegg it is on sale

this thread shows various sales on the evga 1300

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591721.msg7639510#msg7639510
42460  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [OPEN] ASICPuppy.net - In Stock Miners - BTCGarden 310gh/s - ATX Breakout Boards on: July 02, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
how loud is this?  compared to the s-1 antminer set for 180gh
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