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4261  Local / Échanges / Re: Si MtGox ré-ouvre... que se passe-t-il ? on: February 21, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
C'est les soldes dernière démarque vite vite!


Oui peut-être, je suis tenté d'acheter un peu aussi

Mais les démarques commencent par 20% puis finissent par 90% donc on est p-ê qu'au milieu des démarques

Peut-tu expliquer plus clairement (je suis encore novice) s'il te plait ? Je suis aussi tenté d'en acheter un peu.

Je voulais dire que si un actif baisse en prix de manière presque continu cela ne veut pas forcément dire qu'il est pas cher, ça peut vouloir dire qu'il va continuer à baisser; il y a plusieurs éléments à étudier :  le sentiment sur l'actif, les fondamentaux, et la tendance.

Pour Bitcoin je trouve que les fondamentaux sont excellents : les perspectives à long terme sont excellentes; mais la tendance est très négative car ça baisse et ça pourrait continuer à baisser avant de remonter, surtout si mtgox ferme

Si tu veux acheter : achète un peu, en misant sur le long terme; si ça rebaisse, rachète; si ça remonte, rachète quand même un peu
Ne t'attaches pas trop à ton investissement, utilises aussi tes bitcoins pour faire des petits achats, c'est parfois très pratique
4262  Economy / Gambling / Re: MakeBTC.org is the best passive BTC income invest on: February 21, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Can you provide all the users by blockchain..

And the people who made money state your deposit.

It is paying fine for the last 2months it has existed it doesn't mean that there is a 100% chance that it will keep paying but makebtc is a safer bet than 99% of the ponzi games that run on bitcointalk
We will see next bank and the bonus is juicy
Just don't deposit money you are not willing to lose, this is gambling
4263  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will the price of BTC on Mt. Gox be tommorow? on: February 21, 2014, 01:15:15 PM
I guess you could argue that but if I had cash on gox I would use 80% of it to buy now and sell half the coins for a 60% discount

I will buy more coins with the 20% left

I am verified on gox but I have 0 BTC and 0 $ there
4264  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Et ça monte encore on: February 21, 2014, 12:09:14 PM
Certes, mais la difficulté monte, cela implique que le nombre et/ou la puissance des mineurs augmente et pas qu'un peu ...

Bien sur que ca monte, y a 10 fois plus de vendeurs/manufacturers d'ASIC que il y a 6 mois déjà, ca se vend comme des petits pains, ca n'ira pas en diminuant...
Perso je regrette pas mon achat d'un BFL 25Gh/s d'occaz à 350e en novembre il a LARGEMENT bien ROI depuis, et je vais l'amortir jusqu'à la fin
Après un ASIC pour SHA peut miner autre chose que du BTC, ca peut-être plus profitable par moments, comme CTM depuis quelques heures...

CTM tu crois qu'elle a un avenir cet coin?


Non c'était juste la coin du moment ^^ hier y a eu une diff drop 0 et c'est passé sur du Kimoto gravity c'était intéressant hier, fallait vite dumper aussi, aujourd'hui ce n'est plus intéressant (cf coinwarz)

Ok elle est passé a 2 satoshi
Je sais que les dev se donnent du mal pour qu'elle soit accepté dans toutes les plateformes
A ce prix la je serai tenté de faire un petit pari
Ils ont pas fait de ANN sur bitcointalk c'est pour ça qu'on en entend pas parler


Vous serez peut-être intéressé par ce site qui fait des pronostics sur les altcoins pour les traders : http://www.cmmpeg.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=473619.0
4265  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will the price of BTC on Mt. Gox be tommorow? on: February 21, 2014, 12:06:22 PM
Lol @ poll.. between 100 and 1000 dollars is impossible? :p I think it will stay around 110 for a little while.

Yes, for exemple 0-20 20-50 50-100 100-300 300-600 600-1000 >1000 would have made more sense

The mtgox price is not the brice of bitcoin, it is related to mtgox situation, I am still not sure why people who are selling at 100$ on mtgox don't sell their goxbtc for real btc instead
4266  Local / Échanges / Re: Si MtGox ré-ouvre... que se passe-t-il ? on: February 21, 2014, 11:35:11 AM
C'est les soldes dernière démarque vite vite!


Oui peut-être, je suis tenté d'acheter un peu aussi

Mais les démarques commencent par 20% puis finissent par 90% donc on est p-ê qu'au milieu des démarques
4267  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you have USD in Gox, you're lucky on: February 21, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Need to buy bitcoins from Gox not yet verified.. so can i buy from someone else in the forum at the same price +10% ?

I doubt you can buy that low, you can buy goxbtc at a 60% discount here bitcoinbuilder.com

Or post a message here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457723.40;topicseen or here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455243.720;topicseen (bigger thread)
4268  Other / Meta / Re: Ponzi world taking over gambling section on: February 21, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
A lot of ponzi threads have sockpuppet newbie accounts talking to each other, sharing their "payment proof". This can be very misleading.

I think the majority use sock puppet accounts to get the ball rolling and to try provide some "proof" that they actually pay out.

I can confirm that some pay to the end, some pay at first then sca.m (bit4max), almost all stop after 20, 30, 50 or 100 deposits
4269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 11:23:49 AM
Mtgox published a new statement? Where can I find it?

Has it been confirmed that someone stole them their bitcoins?
4270  Local / Échanges / Re: Si MtGox ré-ouvre... que se passe-t-il ? on: February 20, 2014, 10:44:36 PM
Que MtGox ré-ouvre ou ferme, le Bitcoin remontera tôt ou tard.
Si une place de marché peut tout faire tomber, alors il n'était pas très solide.


Personnellement, je parierai pas cher sur mtgox mais je pense que tu as raison : si Bitcoin est une grande avancée, et ça en est une, il rebondira de plus belle car un mauvais pion aura été éliminé, c'est ainsi que le marché fonctionne et c'est très bien
4271  Other / Off-topic / Re: The search functionality doesn't work well, does it? Bitcointalk needs donations on: February 20, 2014, 10:42:59 PM
If I could have been involve in the forum when it started it would have been a great experience so I don't want to to be a pity hater, especially since I don't know half the informations I need to judge if the donations are well used or not and if a good job has been made/is made Smiley
4272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Terrific trader on: February 20, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Maybe this website would help you http://www.cmmpeg.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=473619.0 maybe not Smiley
4273  Economy / Economics / Re: Mtgox can only run insolvent! on: February 20, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
It bothers me that the community doesn't stop using Gox. They have been major participators, or arguably even the instigators, of more than half of the major price crashes for bitcoin yet people still go back.


Big part of the community does. That is why the price is crashing. The ones still using MtGox will either loose their money (if they are wrong) or profit tremendously (if they are right). Both outcomes will be deserved and self-regulating.

If mtgox shut down, this cool guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9Ak1t09Ao is going to lose his money

I hope he sold some of his goxBTC
4274  Other / Off-topic / The search functionality doesn't work well, does it? Bitcointalk needs donations on: February 20, 2014, 09:39:31 PM
When I search for mtgox on bitcointalk I am directed to 2011 posts, I usually end up reading them because they are interesting but they are obv very outdated

Bitcointalk needs more money to survive, it would be cool if some donators gave bitcoins to the forum when they were cheaper because Bitcointalk could have a lot of money right now that it would use to donate and create an even greater forum
4275  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you really think the bottom of bitcoin price after MTGOX is down? on: February 20, 2014, 09:33:43 PM
Just imagine what a massive, never seen before crash we will have when all the cheap goxcoins get dumped on the other exchanges.
We may just see single digits again within a week.
So what makes you so sure that these mysterious "goxcoins" even exist?

And why would they sell them all?

You have to admit -- buying in the low $100s or double digits, then turning around and selling in the $500s looks pretty fucking juicy.

Buying at 100$ then selling those goxBTC at a 50% discount for realBTC looks pretty juicy&safe as well
4276  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MTGOX <-> BTC BID/ASK on: February 20, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
How on earth is the price at 40% GOX BTC to real BTC? If that's the case, GOX price would be at ~$240 right now...if that's the going rate who are the idiots selling at $120 on gox itself?

Edit: In fact, the price should be even LOWER here. Real BTC is worth wayyyyy more than even GOX USD right now. You can't even withdraw GOX USD. Makes no sense for anybody to buy GOX BTC for real $240 when it's only worth 115 GOX USD...

https://bitcoinbuilder.com prices are massively manipulated, obviously. Look, it's the pump going on right now, 1 GoxBTC at 0.5 real BTC!
One must be complete retard to fall for that shit ...

It would be funny to see Gox go under $100

110$ now so it is not unlikely at all that we will see a price under 100$
It has been going back and forth, some people made a lot of goxCoins
4277  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MTGOX <-> BTC BID/ASK on: February 20, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
How on earth is the price at 40% GOX BTC to real BTC? If that's the case, GOX price would be at ~$240 right now...if that's the going rate who are the idiots selling at $120 on gox itself?

Edit: In fact, the price should be even LOWER here. Real BTC is worth wayyyyy more than even GOX USD right now. You can't even withdraw GOX USD. Makes no sense for anybody to buy GOX BTC for real $240 when it's only worth 115 GOX USD...

My thought exactly, some people have BTC on mtgox and don't know they can sell their goxBTC for realBTC but that cannot be the enough to explain such a low price compared to the realBTC/goxBTC value
4278  Economy / Speculation / Re: IF you have assets still inside Gox, what percentage of it is in coins on: February 20, 2014, 08:09:33 PM
I do not have a gox(ed) account, but if I had bitcoins in gox, I would sell and try to buy cheaper, then sell my coins at bitcoinbuilder.com to minimize the loss...

I would have done that before; at 113$ it may still be possible but it's a gamble
If you sell at bitcoinbuilder you get 200$ a coin so when you sell at 113$ on gox you are loosing 87$ per coin
4279  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you really think the bottom of bitcoin price after MTGOX is down? on: February 20, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
Just imagine what a massive, never seen before crash we will have when all the cheap goxcoins get dumped on the other exchanges.
We may just see single digits again within a week.
So what makes you so sure that these mysterious "goxcoins" even exist?

And why would they sell them all?
4280  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the BTC price on other exchanges if mtgox price go to 0 ? on: February 20, 2014, 08:06:18 PM
What will be the BTC price on other exchanges if mtgox price goes to 0 ?

MtGox doesn't sell BTC, BTC you can't withdraw is not BTC, USD you can't withdraw is not USD, so it's actually irrelevant, because other exchanges sell actual BTC. Also, MtGox did so much harm to the BTC community in the past, so it gives me impression that price of BTC will actually go up if MtGox stops to exist, BTC will say... FINALLY! Cheesy

It may happen the same that happened after SMP closed but I still think it is more probable than the BTC price will decrease quite a lot more after gox shut down
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