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4261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 17, 2019, 12:34:29 AM
It seems what we've actually got now is sort of an acknowledged continual-on-and-off impeachment that's not an impeachment.

Pelosi has stated there would be no vote on impeachment. This leaves the process somewhat ambiguous, and if it were pushed to the limit, she would lose this view before the SC.

That's the sort of thing that could go on almost forever, and get nowhere. The only outcome that's obvious is continual repetitious media coverage of "the impeachment."



The only vote she is required to have is the actual vote to impeach.  There is no requirement to vote on whether or not they should vote to impeach.  

That's not really accurate. It represents one opinion, and as you know, there are other opinions.

In a broad sense, nothing could ever get done in parliamentary bodies without guidelines on issues like this. When is the discussion starting? when does it end? Etc.

That is why...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloture


I'm not saying there aren't guidelines.  There are.  Just saying that a vote on whether or not to vote isn't one of them.

If the House votes to impeach the president, then the president been impeached and must be tried in the Senate.  Nobody has the power to prohibit the House from taking the vote.  Nobody has the power to declare the vote invalid since the House has the sole power of impeachment.  

It doesn't matter whether or not it's for a crime and it doesn't matter if they voted on whether they should vote or not first.

There doesn't even need to be any House hearings or investigation.  

All that matters is that more reps voted yes than no on 1 or more articles of impeachment.

And having the Dems trivialized the matter of impeachment, the Senate can DECLINE TO HEAR THE CASE.

It'd be priceless to see the spectacle of the Dems breaking / changing their rules, but arguing the Senate should remain with the traditional rules.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-senate-decline-try-impeachment-case

Yeah, Mitch is definitely capable of doing that.  That's basically what he did with Merrick Garland.
I doubt he would though, unless he thought Trump could actually be convicted, which is very unlikely.  Having the trial and not convicting him seems like the best result for the GOP.  At least in the short term politically.

I hadn't read about this ruling before:

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The Constitution does not specify what constitutes a “trial,” and in a 1993 case involving a judicial impeachment, the Supreme Court affirmed that the Senate’s “sole power” to “try” means that it is not subject to any limitations on how it could conduct a proceeding.

I would think it probably affirms that since the House has "sole power" to "impeach" it is not subject to any limitations on how it could conduct a proceeding.  Although with impeachment there is no required proceeding like there is in a Senate trial.  They just need to have one vote.  So maybe it's not the same.  Who knows.  
4262  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: EARTHS Universal Basic Income - Plagiarized Whitepaper with NO TEAM on: October 16, 2019, 10:20:53 PM
Go to Hach Support's trust page >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2477143
You gonna see all the created flags there. In the Sent feedback look for (Created flag), follow the reference link.

In your trust page look for inactive flags, here is yours
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=538922;page=iflags


Thanks.  Opposed a bunch of them.  Takes a lot of clicking.



Seems like the changing of TotalEarths in the code for his project was probably done maliciously.


Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves?  (It was called TotalWaves initially)

To get an answer by code, you need to ask Earths developers a question by email: support@earths.ga or create a ticket. But they will not answer you because we know that you are a scammer.

4263  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: EARTHS Universal Basic Income - Plagiarized Whitepaper with NO TEAM on: October 16, 2019, 09:32:33 PM
I see that Hatch Support has made flags against all of us who have publicly outed him.
Just to let all you guys know, I opposed all of his shitty flags against you.

Thanks.

How can you see the flags he created?  I don't see any on my profile.
4264  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: October 16, 2019, 09:04:24 PM
Before writing my post, I really read all the information about the resource.  I can provide a link and I can not ignore other people's reviews.  And your actions are very bad for me.

Please tell us more about Betkings basketball system and sports news.
4265  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwC Poker ♣️ BITCOIN POKER 3.0 ♣️ BBJ🌟 ♣️ BIG BTC🏆 ♣ Win✅ Mac✅ Android✅ HTML5✅ on: October 16, 2019, 08:43:09 PM
What do you guys think of doing something like BBJ zoom tables with stakes at 25NL - 50NL USD equivalent...?  Would that attract more players? 
Those are basically the stakes they already have.  Zoom would be a lot of work to program and with the size of the player pool I don't think it would be successful.
4266  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: October 16, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
There is a double feeling about this resource, because there are pros and cons.  I have not fully tested it myself, but I like the presence of a group where sports news, memes are published, with the ability to write comments for discussion, and not every group can boast of this.  I believe that a clear advantage is the availability of a forecast for the basketball system.  But I still did not have time to check in action.  But negative reviews about the project are alarming.


Even if you were to re-read the trash you posted you would not be able to make sense of it.

You try to pass it off as ambiguous and generic so it falls in to all categories but the truth is it seems your only motive is to post for the sake of promoting the signature.

Added you to my IGNORE list

Signature spammer.  Tagged him already.
4267  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 16, 2019, 08:25:02 PM
It seems what we've actually got now is sort of an acknowledged continual-on-and-off impeachment that's not an impeachment.

Pelosi has stated there would be no vote on impeachment. This leaves the process somewhat ambiguous, and if it were pushed to the limit, she would lose this view before the SC.

That's the sort of thing that could go on almost forever, and get nowhere. The only outcome that's obvious is continual repetitious media coverage of "the impeachment."



The only vote she is required to have is the actual vote to impeach.  There is no requirement to vote on whether or not they should vote to impeach.  

That's not really accurate. It represents one opinion, and as you know, there are other opinions.

In a broad sense, nothing could ever get done in parliamentary bodies without guidelines on issues like this. When is the discussion starting? when does it end? Etc.

That is why...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloture


I'm not saying there aren't guidelines.  There are.  Just saying that a vote on whether or not to vote isn't one of them.

If the House votes to impeach the president, then the president been impeached and must be tried in the Senate.  Nobody has the power to prohibit the House from taking the vote.  Nobody has the power to declare the vote invalid since the House has the sole power of impeachment. 

It doesn't matter whether or not it's for a crime and it doesn't matter if they voted on whether they should vote or not first.

There doesn't even need to be any House hearings or investigation. 

All that matters is that more reps voted yes than no on 1 or more articles of impeachment.
4268  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 08:02:39 PM

biden son isn't just corrupt he also was found to be a drug addict.

This is true.  He's not running for president though.
4269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 16, 2019, 06:32:15 PM
It seems what we've actually got now is sort of an acknowledged continual-on-and-off impeachment that's not an impeachment.

Pelosi has stated there would be no vote on impeachment. This leaves the process somewhat ambiguous, and if it were pushed to the limit, she would lose this view before the SC.

That's the sort of thing that could go on almost forever, and get nowhere. The only outcome that's obvious is continual repetitious media coverage of "the impeachment."



The only vote she is required to have is the actual vote to impeach.  There is no requirement to vote on whether or not they should vote to impeach.  
4270  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Fairlay Witholding my BTC, over 6 figures EURO or USD on: October 16, 2019, 06:27:51 PM
Is the issue meanwhile solved?

Yes.  He was paid.
4271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 06:21:24 PM
Any accusations of conflict of interest against Trump have already been gone over 1000 times by now.]

Are you saying you don't think there's any conflict of interest?
4272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌎[ANN][EARTHS] Earths |🔥🔥Universal Basic Income for everybody🔥🔥 on: October 16, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves?  (It was called TotalWaves initially)

To get an answer, you need to ask Earths developers a question by email: support@earths.ga or create a ticket.

Ok, email sent.
For your own sake though, we should keep things as transparent as possible.  You should find out the answer and then post it here.
4273  Economy / Gambling / Re: AskGamblers.com 🔥 Presents the best bitcoin casinos 🔥 Top bitcoin games on: October 16, 2019, 10:49:08 AM
AskGamblers Casino Complaints page for Bitstarz Casino shows that there are no unsolved complaints related to this casino.

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/bitstarz-casino-failed-to-compensate-accordingly-after-proven-malfunctioning-game

The way they handled this complaint was pretty shady.  Did you ask them how many other players had played the game with the malfunctioning bonus round, and what they planned to do about it?


When a player decides to address AskGamblers due to specific issue or complaint related to a certain casino, AskGamblers reviews the complaint trying to determine the truth based on proofs coming from both sides.

Once AskGamblers collects the information needed, we put maximum efforts into helping players achieve their rights, providing their complaints are backed up by true facts.

AskGamblers never takes sides in any complaint process, which is why we have 80000+ online casino forum members.

In addition, AskGamblers Casino Complaints Service has so far helped 10672 players return $28,505,750 and the number keeps growing!

So no?

You didn't ask them about how many other players were affected by the glitch or what they were going to do about it?

4274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 10:04:18 AM
I don't understand how you think anyone can take anything you have to say about theses sorts of things seriously, when it's crystal clear that Biden was implementing the US policy at the time, not to mention all the other countries/groups that were also calling for the guy to be fired. When you throw out garbage like this, then even if you bring up real points that are worth discussing, you simply get dismissed immediately.


Don't forget Biden was not the president.  It was Obamas call.
4275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌎[ANN][EARTHS] Earths |🔥🔥Universal Basic Income for everybody🔥🔥 on: October 16, 2019, 10:01:08 AM
Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves?  (It was called TotalWaves initially)
4276  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: EARTHS Universal Basic Income - Plagiarized Whitepaper with NO TEAM on: October 16, 2019, 10:00:28 AM
WARNING creator and those who support this post are SCAMMERS!

Many of the accounts involved in the attack on the Earths project and the universal basic income program have positive feedback from each other. They are trying to discredit the Earths project with false accusations of plagiarism and theft of intellectual property. All your scam accusations are false! Earths Team, although private, has not violated and will not violate any laws. The Earths project is a fork of the Waves project, so there is source code in it, documentation including whitepaper similar to the Waves project. Both projects are completely open, so anyone can use the source code and documentation as they wish (whitepaper is part of the documentation). Also, scammers are trying to strike at the protection of the Earths project - privacy. They are trying to make fun of the privacy of the Earths Team and discredit honor and dignity. Also, scammers are trying to strike at the Earths universal basic income project. They are trying to make fun of passport authorization and KYC in order to create multiple accounts and receive money.

The only Scammer are you here !
creating wrong flags is the only thing you can do !

Any way its waste of time to write with you !

God thx for the ignore button , welcome to the list !


With your message and groundless accusations of fraud and fraudulent flags, you once again confirmed that you are a fraudster, and that you have positive profile reviews from other scammers who attacked the Earths coin and the universal basic income program confirms that you are a fraudster and act in an organized group scammers.

With your posts and groundless accusations of fraud, you are only confirming that you and your project are fraudulent.
4277  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 06:07:38 AM
So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.

I guess I'm retarded then.  I see plenty of conflict of interest in Trump being paid directly by companies all over the world.

Do you think this qualifies as a conflict of interest?

Trump_Towers_Istanbul
The property developer is Turkish billionaire Aydın Doğan, in a license-partnership with American businessman and current United States President Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/https://en.wikipedia.org

How about the fact that Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump Tower NY to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

The company his sons are running is generating revenue in both examples. Conflict or Na?

You still aren't telling me what Trump supposedly gave to Saudi Arabia in exchange.

And you're not telling me if you think there's a conflict of interest.

In the end it really doesn't matter.  Trump being "personally paid" by any other country is prohibited by the constitution.

I'm still curious though, do you think Trump has a conflict of interest with Turkey or Saudi Arabia?  Does the fact that the Trump Organization, run by his sons, does business with them make you even raise an eyebrow?
4278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌎[ANN][EARTHS] Earths |🔥🔥Universal Basic Income for everybody🔥🔥 on: October 16, 2019, 06:01:00 AM

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Earths Team is currently part of the Hatch Team. Hatch Team has been known to everyone since last year

Hatch doesn't even work.


In this topic, the Earths platform has been announced. If you don’t have a Hatch Core wallet that is used only for a HATCH coin, you need to contact HATCH support.

You are Hatch Support.

See?

I only brought it up because you used it to defend remaining anonymous while requiring users to send you personal information.


To reduce risks, the entire Earths Team is completely private.
Reduce risk of what?  Being held responsible for your actions?
If you don’t know or pretend you don’t know what risk is, including bank risk, use Google.

I know what risk is.  What specific risks you are reducing by remaining anonymous while requiring users to hand over personal information?
Earths Team will remain private and will continue to issue money only after passing verification.

What specific risks you are reducing by remaining anonymous?

Waves has no problem putting their real names and photos on their project, why do you?

Earths Team are many of the Hatch Team, but not all. Hatch Team is completely private, so the Earths Team is also completely private.
You still haven't explained why you insist on remaining anonymous.




Why did you change TotalEarths from 100000000L to 92233000000L after forking it from Waves?  (It was called TotalWaves initially)

4279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 05:05:50 AM
So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.

I guess I'm retarded then.  I see plenty of conflict of interest in Trump being paid directly by companies all over the world.

Do you think this qualifies as a conflict of interest?

Trump_Towers_Istanbul
The property developer is Turkish billionaire Aydın Doğan, in a license-partnership with American businessman and current United States President Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/https://en.wikipedia.org

How about the fact that Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump Tower NY to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

The company his sons are running is generating revenue in both examples. Conflict or Na?
4280  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: October 16, 2019, 04:52:00 AM
ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.
....

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

Looks like the 900 was paid to a firm he had links or, or associated with, some sort of blurred connection like that.

Much as I'd like for Biden to go away, that's not "personally paid."

Yahuh. Ever try just Googling the company name, "Rosemont Seneca Partners"?


"The small fund grew quickly. According to an email revealed as part of a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation, Rosemont described themselves as “a $2.4 billion private equity firm co-owned by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz,” with Devon Archer as “Managing Partner.”"

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/dr-gorka-stunned-biden-china-deal-potentially-one-biggest-pay-play-scandals-outside-uranium-one/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/secret-empires-obamas-used-his-executive-powers-to-help-his-friends-investmen-n2463294

Blurred connection indeed.


Where is the Joe Biden in there?

If you don't think a payment to his son's company is direct enough, I don't know what to tell you.

So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Obviously that's not the case.  This is just zerohedge being zerohedge.
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