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October 13, 2019, 01:49:58 PM
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It is rather convenient Muller didn't actually present any evidence of criminal activity on the part of Trump. Of course it is policy not to indict a sitting president, however that doesn't mean he has any evidence to do so regardless.

Here's one of the 10 examples on Muellers Obstruction List.

A few days before Cohen was scheduled to testified publicly in front of congress, Trump talking shit about Cohens father in law on Fox News and Twitter.

"he should give information maybe on his father-in-law, because that’s the one that people want to look at."
"Watch father-in-law!"
"Because where does that money — that’s the money in the family. And I guess he didn’t want to talk about his father-in-law — he’s trying to get his sentence reduced. So it’s pretty sad. It’s weak and it’s very sad to watch a thing like that. I couldn’t care less,"


Do you think Trump wasn't trying to influence what Cohen said to congress?  Because if he was, that's a federal crime.

In what way would him Tweeting prevent the investigation from happening exactly? How exactly does "talking shit" prevent him from testifying? Furthermore, what crime are you suggesting Trump was guilty of and trying to hinder the investigation of exactly?



Witness tampering clearly. 

You think there's just nothing there though. Wow.
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October 13, 2019, 01:51:32 PM
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It is rather convenient Muller didn't actually present any evidence of criminal activity on the part of Trump. Of course it is policy not to indict a sitting president, however that doesn't mean he has any evidence to do so regardless.

Here's one of the 10 examples on Muellers Obstruction List.

A few days before Cohen was scheduled to testified publicly in front of congress, Trump talking shit about Cohens father in law on Fox News and Twitter.

"he should give information maybe on his father-in-law, because that’s the one that people want to look at."
"Watch father-in-law!"
"Because where does that money — that’s the money in the family. And I guess he didn’t want to talk about his father-in-law — he’s trying to get his sentence reduced. So it’s pretty sad. It’s weak and it’s very sad to watch a thing like that. I couldn’t care less,"


Do you think Trump wasn't trying to influence what Cohen said to congress?  Because if he was, that's a federal crime.

In what way would him Tweeting prevent the investigation from happening exactly? How exactly does "talking shit" prevent him from testifying? Furthermore, what crime are you suggesting Trump was guilty of and trying to hinder the investigation of exactly?



Witness tampering clearly. 

You think there's just nothing there though. Wow.

You didn't answer any of my questions or substantiate your claims, you just repeated yourself.


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October 13, 2019, 01:54:59 PM
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It is rather convenient Muller didn't actually present any evidence of criminal activity on the part of Trump. Of course it is policy not to indict a sitting president, however that doesn't mean he has any evidence to do so regardless.

Here's one of the 10 examples on Muellers Obstruction List.

A few days before Cohen was scheduled to testified publicly in front of congress, Trump talking shit about Cohens father in law on Fox News and Twitter.

"he should give information maybe on his father-in-law, because that’s the one that people want to look at."
"Watch father-in-law!"
"Because where does that money — that’s the money in the family. And I guess he didn’t want to talk about his father-in-law — he’s trying to get his sentence reduced. So it’s pretty sad. It’s weak and it’s very sad to watch a thing like that. I couldn’t care less,"


Do you think Trump wasn't trying to influence what Cohen said to congress?  Because if he was, that's a federal crime.

In what way would him Tweeting prevent the investigation from happening exactly? How exactly does "talking shit" prevent him from testifying? Furthermore, what crime are you suggesting Trump was guilty of and trying to hinder the investigation of exactly?



Witness tampering clearly. 

You think there's just nothing there though. Wow.

You didn't answer any of my questions or substantiate your claims, you just repeated yourself.

"what crime are you suggesting Trump was guilty of and trying to hinder the investigation of exactly?"

"Witness tampering"

I mean, did you not bother even reading the Mueller report?  I feel like spelling it out for you would just be a waste of time. 
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October 13, 2019, 01:58:12 PM
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You didn't answer any of my questions or substantiate your claims, you just repeated yourself.

"what crime are you suggesting Trump was guilty of and trying to hinder the investigation of exactly?"

"Witness tampering"

I mean, did you not bother even reading the Mueller report?  I feel like spelling it out for you would just be a waste of time.  

So... he was witness tampering in a witness tampering investigation against himself? Mmmkay.

I did read the report, it was full of lots of creative ways to cast baseless aspersions and insinuations while technically still being correct.

Just like...

"Mueller Reminds Congress Report Doesn't Exonerate Trump From Assassination Of President Lincoln"

https://babylonbee.com/news/mueller-reminds-nation-report-doesnt-exonerate-trump-from-assassination-of-abraham-lincoln


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October 13, 2019, 03:28:08 PM
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Regarding your rigged Fox poll...

"FOX NEWS POLL WAS ACTUALLY DEMOCRAT 48 REPUBLICAN 34 (D+14)"

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/fox-news-poll-was-actually-democrat-48-republican-34-d14/

You didn't even bother to fact check this claim for yourself. If you would have, you would know that the information being quoted is from another poll. Looks like you need to switch your workout regimen, because whatever you are doing now isn't paying off.

Yes, a different poll.. because it is comparing the previous Democrat sample size with the latest one with an increased Democrat sample size. At least I can read stick boy.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That's not what's happening at all. The tweet that your entire "news article" is based around is showing numbers that correspond to a different poll, pretending they are the numbers corresponding to the latest poll.

The title of the article you linked is this:

FOX NEWS POLL WAS ACTUALLY DEMOCRAT 48 REPUBLICAN 34 (D+14)

These numbers are part of A DIFFERENT POLL:



https://www.scribd.com/document/426454752/Fox-News-Poll-September-15-17-2019

The numbers from your "news story" are from a mid September poll. The percentage identifying as Democrat actually dropped 1% since the last poll (the mid September one). The % identifying as Republican increased 1%.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-results-october-6-8-2019

Apparently it turns out you can't read.

Look man, correcting your relentless onslaught of bullshit is getting boring. Again, you were wrong, and you'll never admit it due to your psychopathology. Good luck with your crucifixion.

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October 13, 2019, 05:39:05 PM
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....

So... he was witness tampering in a witness tampering investigation against himself? Mmmkay. .....

Actually, yes, that was what they wanted to allege.

I was kind of curious how it would turn out.
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October 13, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
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Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That's not what's happening at all. The tweet that your entire "news article" is based around is showing numbers that correspond to a different poll, pretending they are the numbers corresponding to the latest poll.

The title of the article you linked is this:

FOX NEWS POLL WAS ACTUALLY DEMOCRAT 48 REPUBLICAN 34 (D+14)

These numbers are part of A DIFFERENT POLL:

https://i.imgur.com/Fe4E3yw.png

https://www.scribd.com/document/426454752/Fox-News-Poll-September-15-17-2019

The numbers from your "news story" are from a mid September poll. The percentage identifying as Democrat actually dropped 1% since the last poll (the mid September one). The % identifying as Republican increased 1%.

https://i.imgur.com/dOwLt3i.png

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-results-october-6-8-2019

Apparently it turns out you can't read.

Look man, correcting your relentless onslaught of bullshit is getting boring. Again, you were wrong, and you'll never admit it due to your psychopathology. Good luck with your crucifixion.

"Princeton, New Jersey, pollster Braun Research, which conducted the survey, noted 48% of its respondents were Democrats. But the actual breakdown of party-affiliation is 31% Democrat, 29% Republican and 38% independent, according to Gallup.

A poll weighted for party affiliation would have concluded that 44.9% favored impeachment and 44.4% opposed it, a Post analysis has concluded."

https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-news-pollster-braun-research-misrepresented-impeachment-poll-analysis/


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ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.

See what happens anything you talk bad about, or try having a conversation about, a Democrat?  

Their loyal base cant talk about it, they have to change the narrative to throw in mud on Trump

And in this thread, we see how it worked.

Dont think I saw Biden's name in any of the last 4 pages.

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

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October 15, 2019, 11:14:46 PM
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ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.
....

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

Looks like the 900 was paid to a firm he had links or, or associated with, some sort of blurred connection like that.

Much as I'd like for Biden to go away, that's not "personally paid."
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October 16, 2019, 03:22:28 AM
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ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.
....

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

Looks like the 900 was paid to a firm he had links or, or associated with, some sort of blurred connection like that.

Much as I'd like for Biden to go away, that's not "personally paid."

Yahuh. Ever try just Googling the company name, "Rosemont Seneca Partners"?


"The small fund grew quickly. According to an email revealed as part of a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation, Rosemont described themselves as “a $2.4 billion private equity firm co-owned by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz,” with Devon Archer as “Managing Partner.”"

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/dr-gorka-stunned-biden-china-deal-potentially-one-biggest-pay-play-scandals-outside-uranium-one/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/secret-empires-obamas-used-his-executive-powers-to-help-his-friends-investmen-n2463294

Blurred connection indeed.



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ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.
....

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

Looks like the 900 was paid to a firm he had links or, or associated with, some sort of blurred connection like that.

Much as I'd like for Biden to go away, that's not "personally paid."

Yahuh. Ever try just Googling the company name, "Rosemont Seneca Partners"?


"The small fund grew quickly. According to an email revealed as part of a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation, Rosemont described themselves as “a $2.4 billion private equity firm co-owned by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz,” with Devon Archer as “Managing Partner.”"

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/dr-gorka-stunned-biden-china-deal-potentially-one-biggest-pay-play-scandals-outside-uranium-one/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/secret-empires-obamas-used-his-executive-powers-to-help-his-friends-investmen-n2463294

Blurred connection indeed.


Where is the Joe Biden in there?
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Where is the Joe Biden in there?

If you don't think a payment to his son's company is direct enough, I don't know what to tell you.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/schiff-says-congress-may-not-need-to-interview-whistleblower-after-all/


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ANYHOO....... can we get back to Biden?  The topic of this thread.
....

So here..... Biden was personally paid $900,00 according to this article
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-biden-personally-paid-900000-burisma-according-ukrainian-mp-bombshell-admission

Looks like the 900 was paid to a firm he had links or, or associated with, some sort of blurred connection like that.

Much as I'd like for Biden to go away, that's not "personally paid."

Yahuh. Ever try just Googling the company name, "Rosemont Seneca Partners"?


"The small fund grew quickly. According to an email revealed as part of a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation, Rosemont described themselves as “a $2.4 billion private equity firm co-owned by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz,” with Devon Archer as “Managing Partner.”"

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/dr-gorka-stunned-biden-china-deal-potentially-one-biggest-pay-play-scandals-outside-uranium-one/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/secret-empires-obamas-used-his-executive-powers-to-help-his-friends-investmen-n2463294

Blurred connection indeed.


Where is the Joe Biden in there?

If you don't think a payment to his son's company is direct enough, I don't know what to tell you.

So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Obviously that's not the case.  This is just zerohedge being zerohedge.
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So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.


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So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.

I guess I'm retarded then.  I see plenty of conflict of interest in Trump being paid directly by companies all over the world.

Do you think this qualifies as a conflict of interest?

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The property developer is Turkish billionaire Aydın Doğan, in a license-partnership with American businessman and current United States President Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/https://en.wikipedia.org

How about the fact that Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump Tower NY to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

The company his sons are running is generating revenue in both examples. Conflict or Na?
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So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.

I guess I'm retarded then.  I see plenty of conflict of interest in Trump being paid directly by companies all over the world.

Do you think this qualifies as a conflict of interest?

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The property developer is Turkish billionaire Aydın Doğan, in a license-partnership with American businessman and current United States President Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/https://en.wikipedia.org

How about the fact that Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump Tower NY to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

The company his sons are running is generating revenue in both examples. Conflict or Na?

You still aren't telling me what Trump supposedly gave to Saudi Arabia in exchange.


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So the money was paid to a company his son co-owned.  And the article headline is "Joe Biden 'Personally Paid $900,000 By Burisma' According To Ukrainian MP In Bombshell Admission".

If you're going to use that logic then all income that Eric or Don Jr. get paid, and any money the company their running gets paid is all being paid directly to Donald Trump.  And that would be illegal.

Sure, totally the same thing. All you have to do is ignore conflict of interest and blatant on camera quid pro quo to compare the two. You are either retarded or disingenuous.

I guess I'm retarded then.  I see plenty of conflict of interest in Trump being paid directly by companies all over the world.

Do you think this qualifies as a conflict of interest?

Trump_Towers_Istanbul
The property developer is Turkish billionaire Aydın Doğan, in a license-partnership with American businessman and current United States President Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/https://en.wikipedia.org

How about the fact that Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump Tower NY to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

The company his sons are running is generating revenue in both examples. Conflict or Na?

You still aren't telling me what Trump supposedly gave to Saudi Arabia in exchange.

And you're not telling me if you think there's a conflict of interest.

In the end it really doesn't matter.  Trump being "personally paid" by any other country is prohibited by the constitution.

I'm still curious though, do you think Trump has a conflict of interest with Turkey or Saudi Arabia?  Does the fact that the Trump Organization, run by his sons, does business with them make you even raise an eyebrow?
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I don't understand how you think anyone can take anything you have to say about theses sorts of things seriously, when it's crystal clear that Biden was implementing the US policy at the time, not to mention all the other countries/groups that were also calling for the guy to be fired. When you throw out garbage like this, then even if you bring up real points that are worth discussing, you simply get dismissed immediately.

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I don't understand how you think anyone can take anything you have to say about theses sorts of things seriously, when it's crystal clear that Biden was implementing the US policy at the time, not to mention all the other countries/groups that were also calling for the guy to be fired. When you throw out garbage like this, then even if you bring up real points that are worth discussing, you simply get dismissed immediately.


Don't forget Biden was not the president.  It was Obamas call.
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And you're not telling me if you think there's a conflict of interest.

In the end it really doesn't matter.  Trump being "personally paid" by any other country is prohibited by the constitution.

I'm still curious though, do you think Trump has a conflict of interest with Turkey or Saudi Arabia?  Does the fact that the Trump Organization, run by his sons, does business with them make you even raise an eyebrow?

Do I have to break out the NO U! meme again? You aren't talking about Trump directly, you are talking about his sons. Any accusations of conflict of interest against Trump have already been gone over 1000 times by now. If there was ANYTHING substantial dems would have been all over it like a 2 bit whore by now. The combination of the pattern of Joe Biden's direct involvement in favorable policy towards foreign entities combined with funneling large amounts of money to his immediate family is clearly illicit. There is no equivalence here no matter how desperate you are to manufacture it with more accusations of NO U!!!1


I don't understand how you think anyone can take anything you have to say about theses sorts of things seriously, when it's crystal clear that Biden was implementing the US policy at the time, not to mention all the other countries/groups that were also calling for the guy to be fired. When you throw out garbage like this, then even if you bring up real points that are worth discussing, you simply get dismissed immediately.

Unless you are going to contribute something to the conversation other than your confirmation bias and regurgitation of talking points you heard on Rachel Maddow, how about you fuck off you lemming. At least TwitchySeal is capable of having a conversation. You just saw a good opportunity to start a circle jerk. Save it for your hive mind buddies and go stroke each other off because your condemnations are worth less than a steaming pile of dog shit.


Don't forget Biden was not the president.  It was Obamas call.

 That is a VERY GOOD POINT! How many other people are implicated in these crimes? What OTHER crimes might this whole Biden pay for play scheme expose? Who has interest in making sure that never happens?


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