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4261  Other / Archival / Re: DeFi hyip is over? on: October 06, 2020, 05:25:31 AM
Price drop is not an indicator of the trend being over or not. Some bad news may have come into view and crashed the market. You need to think from a neutral point of view when talking about these things.

I also dont like the hype that DeFi created and put that one scummy lending pools and stablecoin pools than actualy DeFi projects which did something for a service. However that does not mean that I would agree to your post. Maybe it is declining, but it is too early considering the average duration for which the previous bubbles remained active.
4262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a new investment on: October 05, 2020, 06:36:14 AM
Bitcoin is one of the strong cryptocurrency and it is the most stable digital coin nowadays.
Strong in terms of price and resilience to bear markets, agreed. But stable? Stability comes in question to volatility. Now the last few months bitcoin has been stable over the 10k USD mark. But if you see the last 11years of bitcoin, it has not been so stable in price. Time becomes a factor here.

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Also, bitcoin is one of the promising investment in digital world.
Promising yes, but people need to be less stubborn about investments. They need to focus on all types of investments. In crypto though only bitcoin is enough. But other than crypto there are other sectors too. It is a battle between sectors as to what is bullish today and what becomes bearish tomorrow. Hence you need to keep assets in all classes. Going all in on one is a wrong move.

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Since, peoples economy nowadays are unstable due to the pandimic situation in the world.
Dude, come on now, dont make spelling mistakes like these. Anyway, economics of the middle class working people are going to vary in this time but things have become normal in many countries and people have started to accept the new.

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Peoples are looking for new source of income to improve their economy.
However, majority of people in your or any other country dont even know about crypto. How do you expect them to proceed from that?

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Do you think bitcoin is the best investment choice nowadays to earn money?
No. There is nothing in the world called "best". Every asset class has is pros and cons. Like I said above, you need to distribute your capital in different asset classes and give weightage as per your own choice.
4263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS: THE CARRIER OF ALL BLAMES IN NEW CRYPTO PROJECTS' PRICE DUMP on: October 05, 2020, 06:28:07 AM
Its the most realistic thing to do but there are people who do really like to gamble out their time and effort for bounty hunting and hoping that they would earn thousands of bucks from it this is why we do continue to see projects that do float around every now and then which do make some bounty task for people to spread out their existence.
This I agree with but I cant say that they really like to gamble. Maybe it is a one-off type of thing. A new user coming to this sector of making money might think of trying out bounties. They get some shitload of tokens but after 5months find out that the tokens have become worthless because someone dumped every last token. But this flow of new users keep on coming.

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There are a few which are legit but majority of them are just shit projects which isnt really worth to advertise on but well this cycle would continue as long there are people who do advertise them just for them to get those valueless or useless tokens in the end of the day.
Majority, more like all of them. The days when bounties were worth doing were back in 2016-17 and after that or towards the end of 2017 each of them turned to be either an abandoned project, power struggles in management or just scams.

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Signature campaign paid in bitcoin is much worth of the time and effort than on bounty hunting.
I think we can both agree to that point. Grin
4264  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Hideme.finance (DeFi) - Fake Team on: October 05, 2020, 06:23:49 AM
Well I supported both of the flags though, I dont think it will ever happen that they are going to come good on their wrong doings such that the flags would be withdrawn - very remote possibility, so I will keep both flags supported.

The red layer actually works as intended though - not all image reverse searches would be able to catch it. This method and some other image editing methods have been used previously to evade scam catching methods. Sadly these scammers have never stopped and thus scam hunter should also not stop exposing them.
4265  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: This will help day traders and newbie traders. on: October 04, 2020, 05:05:31 AM
When there's a bad news from a certain company and traders who have bought their stocks, they are quick to dump their shares from that company. It's the same as crypto but most likely the main factor still is the market sentiment.
Just the fact the majority of crypto related news is negative than positives that make you feel like you are never going to go up on your portfolio, while there is a steady high low ratio in the news from stock markets. The point is that stocks and commodities are well known and well versed in the world. Hence the outcome of the news are such.

Crypto trading is still a niche and often frowned upon, so all we can do about it is wait and gradually make people aware of both pros and cons.

How to know the ATH is the difficult part of trade but your word is funny. If ATH is discovered, it is better to sell and not adding a buy order. This is why we lose money. Buying high is a big risk.
You can analyze the past charts of an asset that you have or are willing to buy. Keeping research done is a key here. From that you know what the support and resistance levels are. From that you can predict a ATH or ATL or a buying/selling point.
4266  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Liquidbank - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: October 04, 2020, 04:55:41 AM
Domain recently registered to promote this scam. Copied whitepaper, what else do you need? Roll Eyes

These scams though never end, they move from one to another copying each other and also have the guts to then attempt to refute because the projects are "Open-source". I dont think they even care what others say here but just go around stealing money.

Flag supported and I hope others will also join and do the same.
4267  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: DEX : How to survive token price on launching on: October 03, 2020, 05:50:15 AM
what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
You are asking for a feature that is completely non-existant in the cryptocurrency space. What you mean is essentially regulation of a market from flash pump and dump seen in stock markets.

Now I dont mean that traditional markets are not manipulated but bringing such a system to crypto would mean three things in that order : Regulation of markets> CEXs controlling the volume/day>DEXs laughing at them. It is complete opposite of how these markets go. DEXs would never try to control the volume/day. If they did, people would stop using them citing regultion as a type of oppression. Roll Eyes

On the other hand a project owner can decide to change the token economics in a way that even if a big party dumps the market wont crash a lot. But this is a tough thing to do.
4268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is monero a good buy because of the application? on: October 03, 2020, 05:45:47 AM
Monero (XMR) is only good for the anonymity that it provides nothing more if you ask me.

No need of adding another altcoin to your portfolio if Bitcoin is already providing you a pseudo-anonymity enough to take part in censorship-resistant methods.

Now I cant judge if you are going to launder money or not but many darknet markets are using it for that purpose.

What do you mean by stake? Long term holding for XMR has not shown any good performance because all altcoins follow the bitcoin trends and you cant expect to multiply your bitcoin by buying and holding Monero for long. Instead just buy bitcoin.
4269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: airdrop bounty project idea website question on: October 02, 2020, 05:43:23 AM
The idea is not new. There are some older members of this forum who have high followership or high subscribership enough to get a good conversion to investors from them to a startup project. Now I am not a fan of what is considered as an "influencer" in the social media culture these days but this is a low-key version of it.

Of course the number of legit projects asking for such promotions is also very low. You might be tempted to promote projects and get paid for it. Remember that 99.99% of the new crypto-based "startups" are plain failures or even scams. Most of us here know this by now but we see newbies come and get frustrated after a few months of broken promises and you cant do anything about it. So we try to make them aware but few actually learn.

Try to get in contact with projects that are already established and now need a marketing through social media. That might help.
4270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS: THE CARRIER OF ALL BLAMES IN NEW CRYPTO PROJECTS' PRICE DUMP on: October 02, 2020, 05:38:50 AM
Developers hold more than 50% of the tokens, so do bounty hunters crash the price
Yes the topic does seem to be biased towards hatred against the bounty hunters from the developers. But what is important is that bounty hunters need to stop being bounty hunters. The reason why such scummy projects manage to spread is because there are people who are enthusiastic about a new bullshit token that will never be worth anything but they are willing to take a stack of that in their wallet.

Please get this in your heads, bounty hunting is a waste of time now. If you want to make money, get a real job and work hard on it. There are new signature campaigns happening every few weeks. Strive to reach a higher rank and join these campaigns if you want some side earnings in bitcoin.

I guess this is quite logical? Undecided
4271  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trust system has been destroyed by scammers on: October 02, 2020, 05:34:00 AM
Check other forums and find more info about people you deal with yourself as the bitcointalk trust system is useless now .
Nobody is forcing you and your friends to stay here. Feel free to leave and close the door on the way please. Smiley
4272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your strategy in taking profit on: October 02, 2020, 05:30:43 AM
Yes it will usually depend on the country you live in if crypto is supported then there will be no problem in choosing coins each currency will become profitable but volatile currency is more profitable here due to the rise and fall of prices profits are made when the prices of currencies rise.
A person living in a country where crypto is not available to be spent would actually reduce the amount of liquid crypto coming in there and give them a more tighter schedule on how to spend those coins. They may actually end up being long term hodlers. Hence I dont believe there is a link between taking profit and your country allowing crypto unless you are speaking of authorities forbidding trading or crypto.

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But in order to make a profit you need to invest a small amount and learn the techniques of trading.
This is a vague statement to make. Amount if small may not always matter to be the reason. A big amount of money does reflect into a higher return percentage, because that is comparable to the risk taken. In many cases the trader need to add in money because of changes in markets and depending on strategy.
4273  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Investment in cryptocurrency on: October 01, 2020, 05:19:39 AM
But my query is cryptocurrency safe?
There is no investment in this world that is without a risk. So the answer to your question is No. Rather crypto is way more risky than traditional bank deposits.

If you looking for ways to put up your savings, talk to a bank official. Please dont go into spending all your money into buying bitcoin. Nobody is a financial advisor here, but keeping 5-10% of your assets in bitcoin can be a good store for the future. But make sure to invest into other sectors as well like stocks, bonds, commodities and precious metals (NOT gems, they are worthless).
4274  Economy / Economics / Re: DeFi vs. CeFi? on: October 01, 2020, 05:08:21 AM
but now thanks to all the scammers that are taking advantage of the ignorance of investors we are seeing scams almost everyday and this is not going to be good for a market that was just starting to gain some traction.
It is very bad that the legit projects who were actually providing a service worth recommending to others never got that traction they needed. Although I still promote about bitrefill in other places if someone asks for it, currently the DeFi trend of lending pools, swap pools and so on are taking over.

Lets compare this with older models of "scams"

Passive income from staking - this become uniswap liquidity pool. It is essentially the same thing. Although Uni is having a good amount of investor backing, how much we can trust them with our coins is questionable. Take your own risk for that, I am not going to support it. Uniswap is for swapping and that is the only thing I am interested in.

Altcoin craze - they are comparable with the DeFi tokens. What is worse is that altcoin projects did have teams and a real roadmap in at least 1% of the cases being legit. These DeFi "yield farming" and other bullshit are not even willing to show their team members. This may lead to a lot of scams before the idiotic-investors actually get a grip of the field.
4275  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto trading P&D groups on: October 01, 2020, 05:00:31 AM
It saddens me to see that people still make these type of topics. Anyway lets dissect the OP's post.

I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word,
If you are new, why are you going to trading right away? Your first steps should be getting a proper wallet, securing it which is something that newbies shrug off as "nah, I am good" - only when they get hacked by some simple method that they realize their mistake. Once these are done, look in trading.

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i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ?
First thing, bitcoin is a decentralized currency. So there is no such "inner circle" sort of thing. Everyone can pump or dump the market provided they have enough volume at hand to make such a move. Whales do have groups but they are the least things you would be interested in. They use those groups to attract smaller fries and then manipulate them into buying or selling - but remember that the only person who actually makes money through them are the group owners and not the rest.

Newbies never realize this unless it is too late and they lose a lot of money buying at the wrong times or buying shitcoins. For example, they will tell you that this coin is going to go this high, so every brain-washed shill will buy it, while the group owners will sell. Thats how this works.

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I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.
Some basic rule that you need to follow in order to stay alive in this game - Trust nobody in the internet. Trust only yourself and the ones whom you know in real.

Also reddit channels are breeding grounds for moth-brained shills. Sorry mk4, not a fan of those groups. Like the "upvotethedaily" stuff on LTCmarkets, thats a moth-brained person for sure.
4276  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Boweiv - Ponzi Scheme on: October 01, 2020, 04:52:00 AM
As long as some idiots dont use their common sense to deduce that is it was really possible to make 250% of a dollar in 15 days, that is a huge ROI, they would have understood this was a scam and would have stayed away from it.

But then we have some people who are fooled easily and think of cryptocurrency as a money making tool and think that some miracle can help them make such money.

For any newbie who thinks everyone in this thread is lying, think about it this way - is such a method was really possible, would the owners not have used it to make millions every year and become the biggest money making machines in the universe already? Roll Eyes
4277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: BOUNTY HUNTERS: THE CARRIER OF ALL BLAMES IN NEW CRYPTO PROJECTS' PRICE DUMP on: September 30, 2020, 06:09:53 AM
Sad to say but i already experience so many project that always blame bounty hunters for the falling of thier token price but if we put basis on the on the token alocation which is really small maybe they can say that it is not only the bounty hunters but also some investors.
You can refute such claims by showing them the token allocation economics. Usually the projects give a less than 1-2% allocation to bounties. Sometimes it is just an unnamed portion of the marketing which might be a bigger umbrella term with a 10-15% allocation and they would be keeping the bounty at a smaller portion of that fraction.

The bigger dumpers are the project owners and the advisors. They end up their lock-in period and dump it before the rest of the retail investors even have any chance to see the market. This is a problem with the listing process and the lock-in mechanism of these tokens making it all seem like a big pump and dump.

I would suggest bounty hunters to stop doing bounties like these. In fact each and every project have become similar and thus stopping the craze of bounties is a better thing to do. Unless you get too lucky, you wont be making any money here dumping your tokens, because their inherent value is worthless. Roll Eyes
4278  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FORTUNEJACK SCAM on: September 30, 2020, 06:02:50 AM
Using more than one account is against their TnC, some people here dont like it, which I am also aware of, but if you are registering on their site you have to follow their TnC thats the point - they are not forcing you to use their service.

Without providing any screenshots, no one will believe your story also. Post the pictures of their live chat if you may. Even then you are the one going against their Terms if multiple accounts is the problem here.

You can PM the official FJ representative account here, linked by @sheenshane's post. If you already posted in the ANN, wait for replies there.

EDIT: OP has been answered here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg55288032#msg55288032
Suggest you to change the topic title to [Solved] and lock this topic now.
4279  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Scam] Spacemining fake team on: September 30, 2020, 05:57:30 AM
These "cloud" mining sites never end. They keep coming with new domains everyday. They dont even make account here anymore because they know they will get flagged so they continue running their scam off this forum. Obviously the internet is not limited to this forum so they dont really care.

Point is that they get enough money for running each website to be able to buy so many new domain names. Now these are not cheap even if they are not TLDs still they carry some cost to run them for like a few months in order to snowball enough people.

That does not mean that we should stop doing this, if any of you see any victims, forward this to them. But chances are that we would be too late.
4280  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 60+ Billion Bets | 113+ BTC Jackpot! on: September 30, 2020, 05:53:31 AM
can you confirm that primedice.co one of your urls?
Please do not use any such links to visit the website. Bookmark the link provided and use that only.

Since there are many registered domains of similar names, not every one of those are legit. Many are run by scammers to prey on users who make a common spelling mistake in the domain name and run a clone site used to steal their money. Some domains are just linking to a referral link often run by affiliate marketers.

To be safe, do not visit any such link. Use the one that is official. No need to even confirm whether those domains are real or not.
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