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4321  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 04, 2019, 06:11:55 PM
For example your assertion "You are abusing anything you can get your hands on" is totally not a lie, you're just being a moron.

What would that be like if one were to actually abuse anything they can get their hands on?

Someone hands you a Mickey Mantle rookie card and you immediately draw a smiley face on it with a magic marker.

You pick up a pair of chopsticks and shove them up your nostrils.

You walk into a crowded elevator and press the fire alarm button.

God forbid you should come in contact with a family member's pet, suchmoon.

Going to the bathroom would suck.
4322  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 04, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
Do you have any examples of judges being sued successfully by a defendant? (and the result somehow changing the outcome of the judges ruling)?

Any evidence at all?

4323  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All on: November 04, 2019, 04:08:32 PM
I know Boxxo is a good guy that's been around forever.  And I'm not saying Bitdice is a scam or anything.  But going from one of the more transparent, respected, provably fair sites to hosting someone else's non-provably-fair, mystery-server games run by a company that answers to nobody is...ughh.  Sad. 

While I understand your point, there's nothing secret about it and it certainly isn't a new thing. It's a question of being able to provide a wide selection of games while still offering provably fair options. We don't believe giving an option harms anyone.

What is the house edge for each game?  Are you able to verify it?

Can it be changed?

Would the provider be able to change the game without you knowing?

Do you have access to the source code?
4324  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails on: November 04, 2019, 03:44:30 PM
Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who's wrong, Casino or Player?
4325  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All on: November 04, 2019, 05:27:35 AM
I know Boxxo is a good guy that's been around forever.  And I'm not saying Bitdice is a scam or anything.  But going from one of the more transparent, respected, provably fair sites to hosting someone else's non-provably-fair, mystery-server games run by a company that answers to nobody is...ughh.  Sad. 

4326  Economy / Gambling / Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam on: November 04, 2019, 05:03:25 AM

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.

He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled. Nonetheless, I did try SBR, CasinoMeister, AskGamblers and no one helped me with the case - in the AskGamblers website I even spoke directly to the bookmaker who just ignored my claims - so GameProtect was helpful in getting this resolved ... prior to it I've also contacted some lawyers in Curacao myself and no one was willing to help or was but with a high cost - so GP's resolution was cost effective and it was effective as well.

Now - moving forward - I have no idea how this thread turned into something else, something that if I had to see this thread now - I would probably avoid dealing with GP because of all the warnings and negativity here, and I see him fighting the claims that you're raising against him ... I also think that he should settle the issue with h4ns in some way - just reach a settlement, I am huge believer in compromise and in doing the right thing.

I don't know where this is all going from here, I feel bad for all sides - I think GameProtect is genuinely trying to offer a genuine service, but on the same time he cannot have an open dispute with another user and leave it like that - besides h4ns' case there is the only other case of Jenni here, but she hasn't given any update here and I'm not sure if she would feel comfortable doing so because she is not looking to be attacked. Asking questions is fine, attacking isn't.

He never used me as a reference for other users for direct contact, everything was posted here so he could point whoever he wants to the thread here, I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine - she used a casino website where the owners have simply left the company and cannot be reached, I don't know what will happen from here, the only thing I can say is that h4ns in my opinion should be paid or at least GP and him should agree on something, and in regards to Jenni's case - I have no idea what will happen with it ... If you're asking if I would go ahead and invest in another case - probably not, because the investment hasn't proven itself - but I took it as an investment with some risks involved and known in advance, so I don't accuse GP of any wrongdoing .... in fact I think all the red flags and the huge amount of negativity that he gets - is in some way unfair - I still gave him a positive feedback and I haven't changed it because I stand behind what I had experienced in general - however if the h4ns' case won't get resolved I'd get upset - why? it's not even my case, but as I said I believe in justice and in doing the right thing. That's why I also called GP to settle this with h4ns. Just get it settled, the amount is not huge neither.

In regards to Jenni - I am happy with whatever happens, I still won't accuse GP for any wrongdoing here - but those who do so with a click of a button should really bring some more credible evidence into the table - otherwise why is he getting so much negativity if the only 2 "pending" cases are h4ns and Jenni's? It doesn't make any sense, by all means this is equal to so many red flags - UNLESS - the issue with h4ns won't get resolved, and I do agree this MUST be resolved, it cannot stay like this. If GP doesn't understand he needs to SETTLE things with h4ns then I'd truy ly feel sorry for his business - and this is a case I am not even involved with, but for the sake of your business, GP, you must SETTLE with h4ns - otherwise you're just shooting yourself here in the leg.




@Get-Paid,

I think most would agree that it's pretty clear that you're a good guy without any ulterior motives or anything.  Just want to make it clear that I'm not trying to attack or discredit you or anything.  I don't think you're aware of the whole story when it comes to GP though.

GP has been around for over 3 years.  In that time he's made countless ridiculous claims, countless ridiculous attacks, been caught in countless lies.  

Over 3 years.  And you're literally the only person that has come forward with a good experience.There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.  However, they never want to come forward and share what happened to warn others.  It's obvious he's stopping you from saying anything.  He obviously pressured Jenny to stop talking.  And he's claiming to sue h4ns for 20,000 Euro for opening a scam accusation against him. This is his excuse for not returning the 210 Euro.  He thinks it's ok to just deduct it from the 20k!

I refunded the 210€ after h4ns requested it September 3rd:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ Smiley

In the mean time he's constantly posting in every Casino thread on this forum, attacking the casino and advertising services such as " [X CASINO] is laundering money! Recover all your losses from the last 5 years with Game-Protect!"

This is not a misunderstanding or a bad decision.  This is a brazen scam.  He's stealing money and then trying to silence his victims so that he can find more victims. And if you don't stay quiet, he will openly threaten you.

Case closed.
The case is not closed for you and the consequences will be serious! Grin

You can lie about and attack Game Protect anonymously, but if I have your identity you will pay the price for your illegal activity!  Wink


Anyway, there are a billion examples out there but I don't want to write a book.  



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He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled.
Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?



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I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine -



So, GP put you in contact with Jenni around December 2018
You were somehow convinced to give GP about ~$1,000 to help Jeni recover her funds, make a little for yourself (and GP also would get a cut).
March Rolls around and GP is ghosting Jeni.  
Here we are almost a year later.  

Just think about all of that man.  



There's an investigation thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184364.0 . Anonymous tips have been pretty helpful getting us as far as we have.






4327  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: November 04, 2019, 02:20:55 AM
If you didn't care if people disagreed with you, you wouldn't feel the need to be a massive dick to them. That's what it comes down to.

I think it's possible that he either A) Doesn't realize how aggressive (often passive aggressive) his posts are perceived by most or, more likely, B) Perceives any post that challenge something he said as a direct attack on his intelligence and/or honor.  He seems to consider his own opinions facts. Therefore other peoples opinions must be 'wrong', and he must prove them wrong, otherwise it will appear that he is wrong.

Or he might be just a troll I guess.  But I think B or A is much more likely. 

Gonna go prepare myself mentally now for all the mean things that are about to be said about me.
4328  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 04, 2019, 01:13:28 AM
The next step if a judge acts wrongly, is to sue the judge in his private capacity. People are usually so disheveled, when they lose a case, that they can't do much of anything.

I'm no expert on this.  But a 15 second google search led me to this 1979 Supreme Court Ruling.

Apparently someone tried to sue a Judge in 1964.

Supreme court said hell no.  You can't sue a judge.  We have an appeals process for that.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/444/193/

Good work, man. But if you look at the case closely, the judge was being sued in his judicial capacity... not his private man capacity. As you see, the defendant was appointed an attorney. He was not allowed to stand as a man. The case doesn't go into enough detail to tell us if he even tried to stand present, un-represent. The case doesn't match what I was saying.

Cool

Fair enough.  LIke I said I don't know much on this topic.

Do you have any examples of judges being sued successfully (and the result somehow changing the outcome of the judges ruling)?

[conspiracy websites without sources to non-conspiracy websites don't count]


"People are usually so disheveled, when they lose a case, that they can't do much of anything."  <== This really isn't a good point.  It's the lawyers job to defend the defendant for this very reason.  If suing the judge were an option, we'd be seeing it happen often.
4329  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 04, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
The next step if a judge acts wrongly, is to sue the judge in his private capacity. People are usually so disheveled, when they lose a case, that they can't do much of anything.

I'm no expert on this.  But a 15 second google search led me to this 1979 Supreme Court Ruling.

Apparently someone tried to sue a Judge in 1964.

Supreme court said hell no, you can't sue a judge, they have absolute immunity.  We have an appeals process for that. 

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/444/193/



4330  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 04, 2019, 12:04:31 AM
Cop:  license and registration please.
Driver: Hey man, is that an order?
Cop: Yes.
Driver: And since you gave an order as a man, here's your invoice for $500 (or State max that the cop would have charge) for stopping me from going from point A to point B. See you in court.
Cop: Oh sure. But sign here (the ticket).
Driver: By: Signature, agent, man.



IN COURT ANSWERING THE DA'S INDICTMENT:

Driver: I, man, am present. I require to face my accuser (first call).
Driver: I, man, am present. I require to face my accuser (second call).
Driver: I, man, am present. I require to face my accuser (third call).
(STATE-OF-XXXXX/CITY-OF-XXXXX doesn't come forward.)
Driver: I require State/City $max for wasting my time, etc.
Judge: Case dismissed.
(Driver sues the State/City for false complaint.)



DRIVER SUES COP IN HIS CAPACITY AS A MAN FOR STOPPING HIM FOR NOTHING:

Jon Doe (cop) is on the stand.
Driver: When you stopped me, had I done any damage or harm to anyone.
Cop: No.
Driver: Pay me the $max for false stop.
Judge: John Doe, guilty as charged. Pay the man.



Cool

Oooo let me try.

How BADecker Turned his Life Around

After hitting rock bottom in 2026, BADecker found himself in an alley looking for his next high, willing to pay however he could.  Luckily for him, the syringe he found in a trash can didn't have what he was looking for, it had what he needed.  

It was a vaccine. Cool

Within 6 months the swelling in his brain had gone down significantly.  His thoughts were more coherent than ever and for the first time in 13 years he started bathing regularly.

Within a year he had made a couple of real life friends!

By 18 months he managed to accomplish a goal he never thought possible, he passed all the tests and got his first Drivers License!

Today he's an investigative journalist for the NY Times with 2 Pulitzer Prizes, a beautiful wife, and his second child on the way.  He enjoys volunteering for Madam President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez' second term campaign.

4331  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Car and Driver licensing on: November 03, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Go search for "Sovereign Citizens Getting Owned And Arrested" on Youtube.  Imagine it's BADecker in every video.
4332  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails on: November 03, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
In the real world it works like this:

If Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, then h4ns's brain would have substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show around July 2019 and not September 3rd after I asked him if he can lend me BTC worth 10€ the second time! Smiley


Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who's wrong, Casino or Player?

4333  Economy / Gambling / Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam on: November 03, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
I've already explained that I signed an NDA and part of the NDA (=Non Disclosure Agreement) is to not disclose the details of the settlement, do you want to see a bank transfer slip showing a payment was made? This I can show you but I cannot show the other things here. Nonetheless at least some other good members like the one quoted above does believe this, I have no intention of lying about it, none whatsoever.

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.
4334  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: November 03, 2019, 03:51:38 AM
Are we on the same page at least that politically appointed federal employees (not including the President) can be fired for any reason at any time, without due process?

They can be fired by their boss (e.g. by the President when applicable) but they can also be subject to impeachment - yes, a cabinet member can be impeached - so not sure how that analogy helps here. These are two different ways to remove someone from a job.

Extending this to the President's job basically means the he can be voted out by his "boss" (the people) or be impeached. Voters don't really engage in any due process, they can vote any way they want for any reason or no reason at all, so that's fine. But the House is not President's boss so they have to follow the constitutionally prescribed impeachment procedure, which to be fair is sufficiently vague for everyone to find something to complain about. But there is at least the "high crimes and misdemeanors" thing.



Found an interesting paper that goes into detail of exactly what we've been debating : High Crimes Without Law.

Part 1 goes into detail of Johnsons Senate Trial.  During the Trial, his lawyer based his entire defense on one of the same arguments that TECSHARE and Spendulus have been making, and it worked:  

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nullum crimen sine lege “There can be no crime, there can be no misdemeanor without a law.”
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The principle of no crime without law has been described as one of the most “widely held value-judgments in the entire history of human thought.”

Part 2 is Modern Counterarguments to the idea of nullum crimen sine lege

The consensus among law nerds over the past 150 years is pretty clear that when the constitution was written, the founders would not have considered nullum crimen sine lege to be a valid defense during the Senate Trial of an impeached official.

One point I hadn't heard or considered before was that 'high crimes' are crimes naughty actions that only a President (or someone in power) can be held accountable for.  If a civilian did the same thing, they wouldn't be in any trouble with the government, because it's not against the law.  There is no official extensive list of things a President can be impeached for.  There for, the assumption is that it's up to Congress to decide whether it's naughty enough to remove him from office - not whether or not it's a crime.  

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A high crime is one that can be done only by someone in a unique position of authority, which is political in character, who does things to circumvent justice. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors," used together, was a common phrase when the U.S. Constitution was written and did not require any stringent or difficult criteria for determining guilt but meant the opposite. The phrase was historically used to cover a very broad range of crimes.

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The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials. Offenses by officials also include ordinary crimes, but perhaps with different standards of proof and punishment than for non-officials, on the grounds that more is expected of officials by their oaths of office. Indeed the offense may not even be a breach of criminal statute.

Another interesting point is that since the Constitution explicitly states that after being impeached/removed, a President can still be charged criminally for the same thing that got him removed.  This contradicts the Double Jeopardy clause, unless being convicted by the Senate isn't the same as being convicted of a crime.


And then you get to the end of the paper and realize none of it even really mattered:

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In the end, however, it doesn’t really matter how logical Benjamin Curtis’s argument may have been considering how often it has been ignored in practice. In the century-and-a-half since 1868, six federal judges have been convicted and removed from office for conduct that wasn’t necessarily a crime when they committed it — a clear violation of Curtis’s conclusion.






4335  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: November 02, 2019, 11:20:52 PM
Because you are just basically wrong in what you said. Due process is an integral part of many aspects of society. In administrative law, promulgated regulations are required to have extensive comment periods, and if one is assessed a penalty, there is an appeals process (WITH DUE PROCESS). The lack of due process is a valid defense in many matters, taking a simple example, when an individual pays rent.

Or when a civil servant is about to be terminated for cause. His contract most certainly requires due process.

Yes, there are laws in place that make it very difficult to fire a federal employee.  Tons of paperwork, tons of evidence.

Politically appointed federal employees are different though.  They can be fired at any time for pretty much any reason (I'd guess it's still illegal to fire them because of their gender race or religion though).  No due process required since the reason can literally be "i don't like you" or "I disagree with your opinions" or "I want someone else to have your job".  If a non-politically appointed federal employee was fired for any of these reasons, they'd easily win a lawsuit for a very nice pay day.

Due process is a very well understood concept and ingrained in culture, institutions, law, and common law.

Let me know if you want to continue arguing that the President of the United States is not entitled to due process. If you do, please present case history and similar facts. Otherwise I will ignore postings, I don't think your "opinion" matters in something like this.

Yeah, that's what we're discussing right?

Are we on the same page at least that politically appointed federal employees (not including the President) can be fired for any reason at any time, without due process?

It's relevant because I'm trying to make the point that getting fired without due process is not just a right that every American has.
4336  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: November 02, 2019, 10:47:56 PM
Because you are just basically wrong in what you said. Due process is an integral part of many aspects of society. In administrative law, promulgated regulations are required to have extensive comment periods, and if one is assessed a penalty, there is an appeals process (WITH DUE PROCESS). The lack of due process is a valid defense in many matters, taking a simple example, when an individual pays rent.

Or when a civil servant is about to be terminated for cause. His contract most certainly requires due process.

Yes, there are laws in place that make it very difficult to fire a federal employee.  Tons of paperwork, tons of evidence.

Politically appointed federal employees are different though.  They can be fired at any time for pretty much any reason (I'd guess it's still illegal to fire them because of their gender race or religion though).  No due process required since the reason can literally be "i don't like you" or "I disagree with your opinions" or "I want someone else to have your job".  If a non-politically appointed federal employee was fired for any of these reasons, they'd easily win a lawsuit for a very nice pay day.
4337  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails on: November 02, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided
The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?


If you click your mouse on the word 'here' in your scam flag, it's a link to all the details.  Just click your mouse on it.

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here.

4338  Other / Off-topic / Re: false scam accusation made a guy who stole my account. on: November 02, 2019, 11:59:34 AM
The investor who invested 0.2btc to list the token requested for the identity of the developer. But the developer got angry and refuse. Then next thing he wants to swap. That’s a scam right?

No, it's not.
4339  Other / Off-topic / Re: false scam accusation made a guy who stole my account. on: November 02, 2019, 05:42:12 AM
Sorry for making the thread such a pain in the ass to read with all those screen shots.  I edited the post.

The reason I went through and added all those img tags is because I think they paint a pretty clear picture:  Lollypop is a pretty decent person and OP is a massive douchebag that is just fucking with Lollypop.  (Also seems very likely that Bastonet is alt account of OP)


I encourage everyone to read through at least some of the screenshots Lollypop posted before coming to any conclusion.   link to screenshots  

(Lollypop, you should link this in your defense thread, A long list of imgur links are a huge pain to read through.  Might also be a good idea to provide an edited list of the most relevant screen shots.)


4340  Economy / Reputation / Re: Game Protect flag on: November 01, 2019, 12:57:28 PM
Will you ask her to help you understand or do you not want her to know of all the trouble you've gotten into here?
h4ns has gotten into trouble here, not Game Protect! Roll Eyes

Is she aware of your reputation?
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