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4321  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: April 27, 2017, 11:23:55 AM
I started buying bitcoin at 650 dollars last year. It's been a great ride so far. Now I am trying to party with the alts to make my crypto ride even better.  Grin

That's the fruit of your patience. And because saving bitcoin for a longer time is going to be profitable if you are going to keep on holding. May I know on how many bitcoins did you bought way back when the price was still $650? if you bought maybe 5 to 10 bitcoins and you are holding it until today, then for sure you are wealthy enough.
4322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: April 27, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
There were a "restriction section" on big gambling sites.You can use them or ask for restriction from staff.Or  just turn off modem and go to find a job Wink

Finding a job can make your attention go with it, while you are busy working for money. You will forget a little by little that you are addicted in gambling and by that way you will make your time valuable for working with your job. This is a good solution for quitting gambling for good, so that you can have a good life.

Thats a good idea. Not just job, get yourself busy in other things of life, that can take out gambling from your life. But gamble once in a while, otherwise it will be hard to leave it at once. Or limit your gambling with amount which you can afford.

It's one of the best idea here to quit gambling for good. Getting busy with a lot of meaningful things plus working for a real job because that will change your mood and attraction in gambling. I know it's not going to be an instant thing, when you have stable job, you can still gamble if you really can't help yourself but occasionally.
4323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: April 27, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
I would also want to recognize my man gordon hayward for doing such clutch threes yesterday. They maybe not a championship caliber but i do hope they can advance to the next round.

I this are mostly battles between guards. Most of the star players here are guards and only love,leonard and lebron i think are not backcourts. Little admiration for short people on their league.

I'm not a fan of Gordon Hayward but we can't deny he's been playing this playoffs very good and still they need to win their next match against LAC so that they can secure the next spot for the next bracket. This two teams are playing tough and I know no one of them wants to give up as this is going to make history.
4324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: April 27, 2017, 10:19:18 AM
do you like slot games ?
To be honest its 50 percent yes 50 percent no slot games is like wasting time with money i tried playing slot games with my free role from betcoin.ag and it totaly sucks me in at first i manage to win and already double my bankroll all gambling when playing in the long run we always lost and the end.

I don't like slots too it is good if you just want to have fun but when it comes for the real goal why we are gambling which is a about earning good amount of winning, it's going to be a big challenge just like playing in dice game. There's no way for us to beat the system as the game is always in the favor of the house.

You can make a good amount if you have very good luck in your favor otherwise slot games are only for fun nothing else.
The better option would be card games or blackjack, through which you can build your strategy or analytics and win. It'll take more time and if you have a strategy then it'll be fun too.

The same thing with dice and these type of games is hard to play we may not if we are lucky for this day or not. It will always be the best thing if you are going to take the chance of playing those games that can be used for analysis just like card games as you mentioned. I'll rather go with poker instead of playing slots.
4325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost over 12 btcs gambling on dice on: April 27, 2017, 09:18:19 AM
Thats a sad year, i just lost 100% of my coins in just 4 months

What drug did you intake to do this unbelievable move, you know how gambling works why spend all of it with gambling? And that's a very short period of time to lose all.

tried a mix of strategy, safe ways, risky, playing just a few times per day
but results are always the same
you lose in the end

Even you will create a lot of strategies in the end they will just fall into the same results and it is losing. It may be good and effective but only in the beginning.

i feel cheated
its unbelievable
why the house always win?

If you felt that you are cheated, are you aware about the house edge? You should know about that, there's no cheat when the system beats you.

And you see people saying "it happens, you can not win in a long run"

It's a cycle and system in the gambling industry that the longer you'll stay and gamble, you are close to become a loser.


why not? why i cant win in a long run?

There's no way to win in the long run even how lucky you are, playing the whole time will just lead you in a loophole.

why we never see a casino losing and closing the doors?

Because it's business and that's why we are losing in the long run because the favor is always with them and it's all about profit.

why 999999999% profiles of the top gamblers are negative?  Huh

What's with the negative?

but you know what i like? I like when the house eat the shit back
when someone manage to find a bug and make 6-7 digits over it  Cheesy
the house cheat, thats it

And it will be figured out immediately by the house so don't depend on those people.




4326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you prefer 100% or 150% Welcome bonus ? on: April 26, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
Do you prefer 100% or 150% Welcome bonus on the casinos ?


Why there's need to ask like this question? It's obvious that most of us are going to choose the higher welcome bonus but the thing is on how difficult that casino is going to give that bonus. As most of them are not giving those bonuses as an instant giveaway as we need to have enough deposit bitcoin to their casino.
4327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: April 26, 2017, 04:57:57 PM
do you like slot games ?
To be honest its 50 percent yes 50 percent no slot games is like wasting time with money i tried playing slot games with my free role from betcoin.ag and it totaly sucks me in at first i manage to win and already double my bankroll all gambling when playing in the long run we always lost and the end.

I don't like slots too it is good if you just want to have fun but when it comes for the real goal why we are gambling which is a about earning good amount of winning, it's going to be a big challenge just like playing in dice game. There's no way for us to beat the system as the game is always in the favor of the house.
4328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: April 26, 2017, 04:28:09 PM
Bitcoin is the best thing happened in online gambling industry. Before that every user should accept high fees and commissions for deposit and payout. Now you just need wallet address...

It is also one of the biggest helper for the price of bitcoin. As there are gamblers that are living in a country that online gambling is ban with their local or dollar currency. But because of bitcoin, their government will not figure it out that they are gambling online as they will just think that bitcoin isn't a real thing but only a digital asset.
4329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 26, 2017, 03:57:43 PM
A gambler/player really needs pure luck in order to win in a gambling. It doesn't matter on how many consecutive lose a gambler/player takes since it doesn't dictates what will happen next. Thus, better analyzation, prediction, and money manahement is what more important consideration to win in a certain game.

Don't think and rely that a gambler needs only pure luck in order to win in gambling. Don't forget that gambling isn't just all about luck, it has numbers and some strategies that you can do in able to win. But of course we need luck in able to make our chance to have an assurance, but knowing when to be lucky doesn't have an assurance.
4330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: April 26, 2017, 03:34:20 PM
It is a sin if the religion does not encourage you to gamble. It is like going against the act of god and so you will be deem as a sin if you gamble. However, if it is not about religion, it is not consider a sin, but more about whether you know how to control yourself so you dont hurt others by your accessive addiction.

It's a real sin if you are going to depend on the law of the religion or church. Because they don't want people to gamble because that will lead them to just keep looking for the chance of winning and that is going to make them very greedy. Whatever it is a sin or not as long as you are not hurting and using other people's money, it's up to you to judge.
4331  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 26, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
I will prefer to invest in both of them as you cannot rely only on single form of investment so its always good to invest in multiple products to divide the risks so even if one fails you can expect some profits from the other one.

I want to invest for both too but bitcoin is on hype now and it will be profitable for me if I'm going to stick with it. I know it's better if you will have these both investments. But for me that doesn't have an ability to manage both investments or two or many investments on the same time, I'm just wasting my time as my profitable stability will lessen.
4332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: April 25, 2017, 04:57:29 AM
I'm expecting a lot of things on bitcoin for this year. Because it's good to see that the price is now really high and we can have a chance to see another ATH. A lot of changes and improvements are being discussed by those people who are behind to the development of bitcoin. I expect that the price can have a chance to pop up to $1,500.
4333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: April 25, 2017, 04:31:14 AM
Betting enables you to learn the teams as apposed to completely random variables. Random variables do happen in betting but much less and some can be predicted. Like if you bet on motor sports and a certain racer is in bad the rain then maybe not bet on him. But of you do the odds will be bigger.

In my opinion they are both the same, If you bet you are gambling even if you are not betting real money as long as you are betting you are gambling something. I really don't know any difference between the two but the is only my opinion. correct me if i am wrong.
That's correct, the words may differ but the meaning it gives is the same. As mentioned I both are interlinked. In my view when we place amount selecting an odd it seems to be betting and the process what we do is gambling which is a common term for all events where money is risked to earn more.


Yes the only difference of these two are the spelling. In sum up, the meaning of gambling and betting is the same. Betting is an act of gambling so in other words there's no difference about it. The only thing that you can see is that gambling has a lot of games to bet. And gambling is a way preferred word by most of the people.

I think gambling and betting has slight difference. Gambling includes Dice, casino etc while betting term is used when we bet on something like sports betting. But still both words are used interchangeably.

Betting is an act of gambling so I guess it has similarity but we do have our very own different opinion about it. But in the modern society today, when you are going to say that you are gambling, in the mind of the people that heard what you said, they will figure out that you are gambling and it also goes with gambling, vice versa.
4334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: April 25, 2017, 04:10:40 AM
If gambling is already our habit, it would be very difficult to stop it with just one effort. We can minimize the bad possibility from gambling by reading other people's experiences. So, this forum can actually help us. A lot people sharing their thought and experiences here, hence we can learn from it.
I know it's difficult because that is how addiction affect on us, however we all want to have a good life and we know that if it is already a habit it is not good for us. We should instill discipline when gambling and must not let our emotion to play the game for us, most likely we will lose if we will not learn how to control.
Addiction is why it's hard for us to quit gambling . However, if we start givjng discipline to ourselves thorugh doing better stuffs, we can succeed on our plan to quit gambling. Changes would start from ourselves.

And you need to pursue yourself to quit, encourage yourself by doing something new. My friend did managed to quit gambling for good and find his new hobby by joining mountaineers travelling all around our country climbing those mountains that has a very good view at it's peak. There's always a solution for every problem.
4335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 25, 2017, 03:32:45 AM
i think dice is easiest way to make money, but you can also try sport betting too, it's easier if you are a sports fan, you can win money if you choose right team

I disagree, I don't believe that dice game is the easy way to make money. Because I just did dice yesterday and I'm very frustrated. I did dice for 10 times and you know what? I only won 1 time and the rest is history. So for me this is not an easiest way to make profit in gambling because it is completely a luck base game and the favor is with the house.

it depends on how do you setting the chance of winning, you could setting your chance winning became 99% ofc it would reduced your winning amount tho, otherwise if you change it became 10% your winning amount will increased but as long as you played it you will realized your losses will increased that because the houhe edge.  

I don't also believe by just simply setting the chance of winning because if that has been effective, most of us are going to dice and will make our riches through it. But because that it is a game of luck and the owner of that dice game has a lot of advantages against it's player. I really don't think that it is an easy way to earn in gambling.
That's pretty obvious that they will win in the long run, so we better not think we can beat their system by constantly updating our method because no method will work in the long run. Gambling is just design that way, it is on their favor and they will be profitable than us.
Best chance we have is when we love to risk bigger money and if we are lucky we can bag a big amount.

Yeah it's proven that there's no way to beat the crap out of them. There are methods that are going to work but in the end that is not going to be working and will simply useless. I don't like to risk bigger amount in gambling, this is just good for those people that are to lose a lot and has enough or living a decent life.
4336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: April 25, 2017, 03:16:50 AM
Which game you played when you earned most of money?

I have tried before a lot of different gambling games but none of them earned me any money.
Lottery, lost.
Sport betting, lost.
Jackpot, lost.
Table games, lost.
Dice, won about 0.2btc but lost 1btc after that.



I don't have any chance to win with lottery so I gave up playing that game already so I have two more choices to play, and that is with dice and sports betting. But I can see that the progress for each dice is very fast and that can make me lose more. Currently I'm winning more in sports betting particularly with the NBA playoffs plus some e-sports game.
4337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: April 25, 2017, 02:56:47 AM
Well I calm my self when I am getting greedy by listening to some music,
And also try to gamble only what you can afford to lose and set up your goal to know when to quit.

Do you think music will do the trick? Most gambling houses have music playing as well yet nobody's able to calm down in moments of desperation and rather ends up loosing a huge chunk of their income.

I think so that it will do the trick, just try to listen to those relaxing music so that you will be fine listening and will have a very good mindset. If ever there's a music playing by the casino, just turn off your sound so that you won't get attracted with that type of music. Make yourself contented on the amount of your winning and you'll be fine.
4338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: April 24, 2017, 05:15:54 AM
Key inside in the game that is patience and accuracy,
Victory and defeat Already Be common thing in the game, only luck wich makes Victory Be Perfect and i know everyone want always get luck,
I myself ever experienced like that.  Grin

 

That patience and accuracy you are saying is hard to apply in gambling because you don't have an accuracy if you are just thinking that you are lucky. And most of us who are gambling all day long thinks that if we are winning for consecutive games we only think that we are lucky. The best thing to do is when you got enough just leave.
4339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for a living or a living for Gambling? on: April 24, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
I think the title is just defining the same things, you are gambling for your living. It's hard to depend your life with gambling because it's very unstable and more stable than trading. And if you are going to live for gambling, there's nothing worth to live for it because there's more valuable things that you can do for your living not only for this thing.
4340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 24, 2017, 04:38:01 AM
i think dice is easiest way to make money, but you can also try sport betting too, it's easier if you are a sports fan, you can win money if you choose right team

I disagree, I don't believe that dice game is the easy way to make money. Because I just did dice yesterday and I'm very frustrated. I did dice for 10 times and you know what? I only won 1 time and the rest is history. So for me this is not an easiest way to make profit in gambling because it is completely a luck base game and the favor is with the house.

it depends on how do you setting the chance of winning, you could setting your chance winning became 99% ofc it would reduced your winning amount tho, otherwise if you change it became 10% your winning amount will increased but as long as you played it you will realized your losses will increased that because the houhe edge. 

I don't also believe by just simply setting the chance of winning because if that has been effective, most of us are going to dice and will make our riches through it. But because that it is a game of luck and the owner of that dice game has a lot of advantages against it's player. I really don't think that it is an easy way to earn in gambling.
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