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4721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: January 31, 2017, 04:34:06 AM
Wow! Never bet against the Indiana Pacers. Angry
I bet on against them 3 nights in a row and lost all three tickets just for their success.
That dunk by Paul George was just terrorizing my nightmares last night.
That guy is scary to watch play if you bet against him. Shocked

Paul George is crazy guy after his knee injury he went back to beast mode.
Indiana is not a great team though, try your chance in 4th and 5th games again.

Indiana is not a great team? If you think that they are not that great team then maybe you need to look to their performance. We can just say that a team isn't great but that's your opinion. The lesson is that don't underestimate a team because you won't know that they are the ones that can bring you victory or loss.
Indiana is a great team but they are not a consistent team like before way back the time when they were a threat against the miami heat. Paul George is injured and even if he shows some signs of greatness but he is not consistent and anytime he can be out due to his injury problem. That alone can affect the team chemistry, and by looking at the trend, you can tell I am telling what is on record.

They are not even they were back then so I also do believe that Indiana Pacers is better today. I agree with finestream and with Paul George's injury that is not an assurance that their team is going to be in a good condition or status because anytime he can collapse. Maybe today we can see that they are still good but when George shows some signs of collapse, they will fall but I hope it won't happen.
4722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: January 31, 2017, 04:17:46 AM
I think gambling is not going to make the rich may be contrary gambling will make no money or run out of money for gambling and also makes people become addicted

It can make someone rich depending on his situation and event. There are people who are betting with lottery and manage to be lucky for their entire life and becomes rich for winning the pot once in their life time. There are also some people who are winning in lottery for a couple or even more and that's making them rich.

It is pure luck... No one expects that they are going to win anything when they bet... Unless a guy is a psychic that could really tell the future... If you sum the number of gamblers who became rich compared to those who was broke, the number would only be countable... No one gets rich in gambling unless he/she is destined to become one, and no one knows who it is...   Smiley

And that's the other way that I'm saying to become rich depending on their status. Funny with that psychic thing or any related predicting skills with lottery. It's just a total dream to become a winner into it and it's amazing that there are people who really hits the jackpot monthly. I'm a bit jealous with them but well that's gambling.
4723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: January 31, 2017, 04:01:01 AM
Dice game is one of my favorite game and also playing poker. But I prefer to play poker in real action rather than playing it online because I can have the advantage of reading my opponents reaction every time I'm going to do something risky. Betting with e-sports is also what I prefer since I'm an avid Dota 2 player.
4724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: eSports Betting Tips Thread (Dota2) on: January 31, 2017, 03:48:22 AM
Team Secret vs Natus Vincere, January 30
I prefer Natus Vincere with odds 2.89 or higher
1 game winner with such high odds. Na’Vi has played draw in series vs Alliance, while Team Secret get 2-0. But if you have watched both series. You can say for sure that Team Secret games wasn’t impressive at all. In both matches they had to comeback after bad early stage. I believe if they will play the same style vs Na’Vi it will be equal to lose.

I think you have chosen a wrong pick for this match, I prefer to bet with Secret. But overall, you have a good prediction for these games. Good luck to all of your bets!

I think Na'Vi hasn't chances to get 2-0 over Secret, but for winner game 1. It's ok. With Ad Finem less % for win. But vs Secret I think Na'Vi has all chances.

Navi really doesn't have a chance to win 2-0 over Secret and against other tier 1-2 teams because they are still have a new roster. And it's hard for a team that has changed its players recently. They need to have some more games to make their connection good and make their team play better that can lead them to the finals. That's why they ended 1-1 with Secret and Ad finem this is a good start for them.
4725  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: January 31, 2017, 03:40:21 AM
It's really up to you, if you believe that bitcoin will grow in value or remained stable , then you can invest in it.

And it's going to be a crazy not to believe bitcoin upon seeing people who are earning good amount. So if you aren't going to invest and believe bitcoin then you are blind or maybe you don't want to invest into this good crypto. And that's why I'm believing bitcoin because I saw the proofs of the people who earn great amount with it.
4726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 31, 2017, 02:49:26 AM
I'd choose the investments, even though I often gambling, but the investment is more important than gambling. the rest of my salary, I mostly use for investment. my favorite is investment funds mutual and stock.

Investments will always be preferred by me too. Gambling is just a type of game and wagering of money but when it comes to profiting, investments are the ones where we can trust. As there are a lot of investments that are coming out as a scam, we need to be cautious for it. That is why we need to choose those trusted ones and we can easily find it out.
Yeah I agree. But you should determine which investments are legit and which are based on Ponzi scheme. There are thousands of Hyip and fake cloud mining and if you make a mistake, you may lose all of your money. For me, holding Bitcoin is the safest investment and it can help you to get some high profit after 5 or 10 years

Just like what I said on my last sentence, we can easily find it out who are those ponzi scheme investments. So it's not a problem anymore if you are already in this industry for some months and you can avoid to be scammed unless you won't believe people who are giving caution and warning about these shady investments. Holding bitcoin is considered as safe investment and legit one.
4727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 30, 2017, 11:35:25 AM
I'd choose the investments, even though I often gambling, but the investment is more important than gambling. the rest of my salary, I mostly use for investment. my favorite is investment funds mutual and stock.

Investments will always be preferred by me too. Gambling is just a type of game and wagering of money but when it comes to profiting, investments are the ones where we can trust. As there are a lot of investments that are coming out as a scam, we need to be cautious for it. That is why we need to choose those trusted ones and we can easily find it out.
4728  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: January 30, 2017, 11:19:44 AM
I think it's more important for BTC not to have a special or flying to the skies price, but not to drop. Losing investments hits  harder compared to not earning more.

Why you don't want bitcoin to increase its price or skyrocket? The price does really matter and most of us wants the price to fly high. Because if that happens many are going to get bigger profit depending on the amount of bitcoin that they are holding. And also for small earners this is going to be a good thing already for them.
4729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: eSports Betting Tips Thread (Dota2) on: January 30, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
My bets for today.
http://imgur.com/a/ixMbm

Team Secret vs Team Horde, January 30
I prefer Team Secret with odds 1.20 or higher
Team Secret isn’t impressive team now. But Horde isn’t team at all. I doubt that Horde can get at least 1 map from Secret.

This is a good pick Secret is still one of the good tier 1/2 teams in the world of Dota 2 and Horde is still a new one, Akke can't even bring that team to the TI.  Grin

Ad Finem vs Natus Vincere, January 30
I prefer Ad Finem with odds 1.40 or higher
Ad Finem should win. But I will bet on Na’Vi cause of game 1 winner bet. High odds in match up without obvious advantage on Ad Finem side.

Natus Vincere is still in the process of getting to know each other because they have 3 new players out there.

Team Secret vs Natus Vincere, January 30
I prefer Natus Vincere with odds 2.89 or higher
1 game winner with such high odds. Na’Vi has played draw in series vs Alliance, while Team Secret get 2-0. But if you have watched both series. You can say for sure that Team Secret games wasn’t impressive at all. In both matches they had to comeback after bad early stage. I believe if they will play the same style vs Na’Vi it will be equal to lose.

I think you have chosen a wrong pick for this match, I prefer to bet with Secret. But overall, you have a good prediction for these games. Good luck to all of your bets!
4730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 30, 2017, 10:38:23 AM
Many people have some consideration about both gambling and trading. Coming to investment in both of them we have to invest to make but coming to risk factor gambling has 100% risk when compared to trading. Through trading we can make at least some money, if we won't sell at bought price.

Gambling is not an investment either people are just thinking that it is a type of investment because they are putting money into it and thinks that they are going to get profit for sometime. The risk is the only thing to be considered with both of it. And it is more profitable if we are going to go with trading because that is not going give us an headache.
4731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: January 30, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
I think gambling is not going to make the rich may be contrary gambling will make no money or run out of money for gambling and also makes people become addicted

It can make someone rich depending on his situation and event. There are people who are betting with lottery and manage to be lucky for their entire life and becomes rich for winning the pot once in their life time. There are also some people who are winning in lottery for a couple or even more and that's making them rich.
4732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: January 30, 2017, 09:51:36 AM
It is so difficult for the government to trace those online gambling because even they ban some of them, a new site  will be created; they will not succeed on vanishing it. Programmers and developers can make a change easily to their gamble site.
If the government ban online casino sites, we can open that site using VPN method. So for online gamblers no worry there are a lot of websites are there to gamble. And this is easy and safe to compare real gambling. In real gambling, we must play the minimum amount. And we will not get a chance to play sports betting. In online gambling this type of conditions not there we can play any games and whenever we want. So I like online gambling. 

Agreed with you now a days there is no problem to get access online gambling being anonymous. I also think nobody can take control on online gambling now we have so many ways to play easily.

That's why I prefer online gambling because there's no need to for us to expose our information. And besides it is also very convenient for those people who are busy working all day long but wants to deal with their boredom through gambling. Also the taxation is not covered with online gambling so when you win a pot, you just need to pay fees.
4733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: January 29, 2017, 05:19:59 PM
The best method would be to reduce your access to your bankroll IMO and keeping the coins secure in the same time, keeping private keys in vaults in banks or secure locations would be the best IMO.

Better to cash it out, because even you are going to hide it somewhere still you can have access to it. And when you are going to crave to gamble you can just come back into it and you are going use that funds on your bankroll. But there is no always an instant way to quit gambling for good, a little by little step of quitting by doing something interesting is also a good way.

If you have no access to your private keys then you wont be able to get your bitcoin out of it. This is pretty much more convenience way just to withdraw, besides that keeping your bitcoin safe is probably one of the thing you could do to stop your addiction as well as to keep it as a source of future investment

It is just like you are burning your bitcoins. Why you would waste your bitcoins for having no access to your private keys if you can just simply cash it out and use it to some other things that you wanted to afford. Just like buying of your own new clothes or something like that. Yes keeping your bitcoin safely is a good source of future investment but when craving comes to you, you can't notice that with that purpose anymore. Because you might use that fund.
4734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Sports Betting for You? on: January 29, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
Yeah, seriously i could say that now i am gambler because of sports, I started gambling on sports, and than i continue my way of gambling, and one i became gambler. Because i have interest on sports and when i used money on betting than it give me good profit, So i couldn't left it all.

It is also for me, sports betting is for me. Because I'm a sportsman and I would love to bet and support my favorite sports players, games and matches. And while I'm also supporting my best picks, when they win I can also have their victory. So for me sports betting is one of the most beautiful gambling games that I'm ever doing all the time.
I like to gamble different kind of games as it gives me additional entertainment, but in sports betting it's also different as you will not be based on your luck alone, you also need to learn how to cap games.
With regards to the question if it is for me, then I would say, yes, it is also for me, not because I am winning but because I am enjoying it despite of the loses.

I'm also liking on how to be a sports analyst because when I'm betting that is making me an instant sports analyst  Grin. I guess most of the gamblers are into sports betting because this is one of the easiest game. Just bet for a team that you think you win and that's it. Even without doing some analysis so sports betting is for all of us.

You are right sort of one of the easiest gambling games and it requires only prediction and analysis of the game and the team/person you are betting on. Well unluckily im not good in dicegames because ill end up only loosing but in this game sort of i win most of the time

And that is applicable to almost all of the gambling games. You don't have to be a good one, you just need to know on how that game works. And that's why many of us are loving on how sports betting goes on. Because we can just simply bet for the team that we like or possible chance of winning and you're done if you had wagered already.
4735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 29, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
I'm also experience this ! When I win using martiangle 50% for quick profit I made 0.03 profit
Afterward I'm using different method , high risk high reward at the end I'm loss it all. Fell regret at the moment !
But for somehow I fell that gambling is fun to play so I'm continue gamble althought I have loss

That's why when I already when, it ends there. Get contented and you'll be okay in the end but still the way of thinking that we are going to win more if we are going to gamble again. So if you are a winner or an individual that wants to stop already but suddenly changes his mind into that way, you are going to keep on gambling again.

Well i think if you have that kind of mindset, then you can continue to gamble even after you've stopped already. Responsible people for me wouldn't have a hard time shifting from nongambling to gaming mode anytime. Though for people who had a hard time quitting in the first place because of too much adiction, i don't think exposing yourself to gamblig again would even be something to consider because that craving to gamble would be back without you noticing it and sometimes that craving would even be more intense than the first time

That feeling of craving is always making me feel to have more chance of winning. As a matter of fact when I'm feeling this not only with gambling but also with other things. That is making it more exciting and it makes me stronger for having this feeling. Probably this is what most of us are feeling so even we are going to quit but when we suddenly feels this, we are coming back.
4736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: January 29, 2017, 04:46:12 PM
It is addictive because it is based on human greed and that can blind judgement so people get ready and play till they have nothing and then they want to try again and again again. Then they are an addict and this about winning all the time and play and play with everything they have.

Yes gambling is simply addicting because of our human nature to become greedy and that's why we always aim to have better profit with gambling. But most of the time what is happening is just we keep on losing a lot of money / bitcoins every time we are going to gamble. And even we win some good amount already we aren't contented with it.
4737  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: January 29, 2017, 04:33:37 PM
not at all .usd is more popular than bitcoins .it is becoming more and more popular .as the price of bitcoins would increase day by  day it is becoming more and more popular but it would never go higher than usd.

There is no need for this to be in a competition as both are good to be used by us. If you are that type of person who are using things accordingly and using them both as an advantage then you are a grown up man. Bitcoin is depending it's price into dollars and that's how important the US dollars with the economy of bitcoin.
4738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: January 29, 2017, 04:21:30 PM

There's no easiest way to make profit from gambling unless you are the casino's owner.

Even casino owners are having difficult time to make profit in the first place. Because they need to promote their site and they need to build their trust. But that is going to be worth it when everything was setup already. And yes they will be the ones who are going to have the easiest way of earning in gambling by simply monitoring and managing their site.
Correct, there is a lot of competition in the online gambling world now and its not easy to build trust to bring in new players.

And they need to do a lot of advertising, events and other giveaways to make their site known. The investment that they are allocating in able to get good future profit is really tough, we just can say that they are the ones who are easy to make profit from simply being the owner. But in reality, they went through different hardships.
- Making money is never easy, every job has certain difficulties. We should not consider subjective problem
- Online gambling also have difficulties. Owners also have different risks

Is gambling really a job..? I do not think so.

Owning a casino, yes, includes some risks like someone finding an exploit and stealing all your money like it happened to PrimeDice or someone being very very lucky and winning your whole bankroll. It's usually profitable but it doesn't always go 100% perfect..

I don't also think that gambling is a job unless you are going to be employed with an online or physical casino and you are working there. And I agree that there is an easy way to make money because it always get's each day. Those people who are making an easy way to profit are pro's and there are also some that are earning an easy money not with gambling but letting themselves involved into illegal things.
4739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: January 28, 2017, 12:04:45 PM

There's no easiest way to make profit from gambling unless you are the casino's owner.

Even casino owners are having difficult time to make profit in the first place. Because they need to promote their site and they need to build their trust. But that is going to be worth it when everything was setup already. And yes they will be the ones who are going to have the easiest way of earning in gambling by simply monitoring and managing their site.
Correct, there is a lot of competition in the online gambling world now and its not easy to build trust to bring in new players.

And they need to do a lot of advertising, events and other giveaways to make their site known. The investment that they are allocating in able to get good future profit is really tough, we just can say that they are the ones who are easy to make profit from simply being the owner. But in reality, they went through different hardships.
4740  Economy / Economics / Re: What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000? on: January 28, 2017, 11:37:11 AM
We need to get populated. Bitcoin users are the ones who are making waves of its price. When we use it, we buy and different transactions that we do. If we can just make other people see to how good it is then we reach the number that you mentioned.

We can actually let them see that bitcoin has a price of that. I actually did it to my friends. But making the price of bitcoin to $1,000 is the job that we need to take charge by simply keeping the economy alive by purchasing bitcoins. And the most who are contributing with the price increase are the whales who are actually responsible for it.
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