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4341  Economy / Speculation / Re: awesome trading no ? on: April 28, 2012, 06:41:02 AM
You can skip step two. I've tried praying for a price swing and it doesn't work. With this in mind, we can come up with a new plan:

1) Buy or sell
2) ? ? ?
3) Profit!
4342  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin is strangling my computer on: April 28, 2012, 04:46:08 AM
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There's no such thing as a "percentage" of disk I/O. A hard drive can physically only access one file at a time. If one program is accessing file A, and another program wants to access file B, and files A and B are both on the same disk, the second program will not be able to continue running until the first program has finished what it's doing. There's no way for each program to get "50%" of the disk, that just doesn't make sense.

It is true that a hard drive can read only one allocation block at a time. However, it takes only a fraction of a second. Then it moves to serve another IO request. Reading a file consists of a lot of IO requests. You can read many files concurrently without problem. As you type, OS has dozen of different files open for reading, including registry and all dlls.

There are mechanisms in OS to prohibit concurrent modification of the same file. However, what file BitCoin is using that Windows or Firefox needs?
Having a file open for reading simply means that the OS will prevent other programs from trying to write to that file, and has nothing to do with the physical operation of the hard drive. The hard drive is not actually doing anything when a file is "open". It only actually reads data from the disk when the file is first opened, after that it is free to do other things. Normally it only takes a fraction of second to actually read the data, but extremely large files take a lot longer.
4343  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin is strangling my computer on: April 28, 2012, 04:02:02 AM
IO that is possible. However, BitCoin should compete with other applications for IO and never get more than 50% when something else is doing IO. That should not lock up the computer.

There's no such thing as a "percentage" of disk I/O. A hard drive can physically only access one file at a time. If one program is accessing file A, and another program wants to access file B, and files A and B are both on the same disk, the second program will not be able to continue running until the first program has finished what it's doing. There's no way for each program to get "50%" of the disk, that just doesn't make sense.
4344  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin is strangling my computer on: April 28, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
I have similar problem, computer freezes for a moment (15s) when BitCoin client is open. CPU usage is not high, physical memory is still available. What resource is it starving my poor computer of?

Disk I/O. The blockchain file is over a gigabyte in size, so it takes a while to read or write to it, and while Bitcoin is doing that, you won't be able to anything else with your hard drive until it's finished.
4345  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Converting USD (cash) to BTC and back to USD, anonymously? on: April 27, 2012, 09:57:50 AM
I don't understand. I A is paying cash, and B wants to receive cash, why doesn't A just hand over the cash to B? Why get bitcoins involved at all? In any case, it's the last step that poses the problem. To convert bitcoins to cash any other way than by trading in person, you need to give a bank account number, which of course is not anonymous. There is just no way around this other than to make the trade in person.
4346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Requesting donations for a cause on: April 27, 2012, 09:41:43 AM
You keep claiming people are dying from taking it as advertised by the pseudoscience merchants. Please support this with something more than anecdotes or justify why the anecdotes are convincing to you.
Um, any claim that specific people have died from MMS (or anything else for that matter) is anecdotal. What do you want, a double-blind autopsy? Sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide are known to be toxic (PDF). Silvia Fink became violently ill immediately after ingesting these chemicals, and died the same day. That's got to be more than coincidence, don't you think?


Honestly I know nothing about MMS other than it is one more bullshit "cure" for people to take and it is some kind of diluted oxidizing agent.
It is not just another bullshit miracle cure, it's a highly toxic bullshit miracle cure. It is not just a dilute oxidising agent. When formulated according to the instructions, it produces a highly poisonous gas.

I think this is FUD. More people would die if that was the case. What is your source for this?
Jim Humble, the creator of MMS, states openly that MMS consists of chlorine dioxide, which is produced by "activating" sodium chlorite. The method by which MMS is "activated" is very similar to the method used in industrial production of chlorine dioxide. It is not FUD to say that MMS produces chlorine dioxide. The guy who created it is the one saying it. Chlorine dioxide is known to be a highly poisonous gas (see the above link). Sodium chlorite is also poisonous. These substances are not diluted to safe levels either: Jim Humble recommends a 28% solution of sodium chlorite.

It is believed that more people have died from MMS, though I only mentioned the one death specifically because that's the only case I could find where there was hard evidence. Claims that other people have died from MMS are not unbelievable, given how toxic these substances are.

If people are so obviously dying from it I would think the FBI/whoever could arrest those selling it and charge them with manslaughter and fraud. Why is this not happening?
The reason nobody is getting arrested for it (yet) is because sodium chlorite, like so many other industrial chemicals, is not actually a controlled substance, and it's perfectly legal for anybody to sell it to anybody else for any reason. But it's looking like that's about to change. In fact, the reason for the OP's request for donations is to help another promoter of MMS in a legal battle with the FDA. I don't know all the details, but I gather that if the FDA gets their way, they'll ban MMS outright and put an end to this nonsense once and for all.

Why is noone besides the FDA investigating the death's of the idiots drinking MMS then? Bullets are not a controlled substance, neither are cars. I don't advocate donating to this at all btw.
I wish I knew. Bullets and cars are not controlled substances only because they are not substances. I'm pretty sure they are controlled (in most countries), at least in the sense that a license is required to buy and/or use them. But industrial chemicals are not so tightly controlled, if they are controlled at all. That's just the kind of fucked-up world we live in, I guess.
4347  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Air gapped wallet printer on: April 27, 2012, 06:34:51 AM
Well, that's exactly why I mentioned an am receiver tuned to static.  Pipe that into the stereo mic-in jack of a small computer, mash the resulting bitstream up with some hashing algos, and you've got a pretty decent RNG hardware on the cheap. 

Good thinking! I must've read right past that, sorry. The only thing I'd worry about is an adversary having a transmitter nearby and therefore overriding the unpredictability of the seed.

Damn, I read past that too. Anyway, if you only take the least-significant bit of each sample from the ADC, you'll get complete randomness (from background noise) regardless of what an attacker is trying to transmit (since it's an analog signal, there'll always be some level of background noise that's outside the attacker's control). The same trick works with a microphone, for the same reason.
4348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Requesting donations for a cause on: April 27, 2012, 06:08:53 AM
No sodium chlorite is not bleach. Bleach is sodium hypochlorite. Chlorate 3=oxygens, chlorite= 2 oxygens, hypochlorite= 1 oxygen.
I said sodium chlorite is a bleach. "Bleach" is not one specific chemical, it is a type of cleaning agent that works by oxidation, and there are number of different chemicals that fall into this category: sodium hypochlorite, calcium hypochlorite, sodium hydroxide, hydogen peroxide, and yes, sodium chlorite.

AZT inhibits things that interact with DNA, HIV reverse transcriptase moreso than other targets. It will still interfere mostly with dividing cells. I am not too familiar with how effective it really is, but last I heard HIV treatment was usually a cocktail of drugs.
Yes, AZT is normally used in conjunction with other drugs. But MMS is definitely not one of them.

Honestly I know nothing about MMS other than it is one more bullshit "cure" for people to take and it is some kind of diluted oxidizing agent.
It is not just another bullshit miracle cure, it's a highly toxic bullshit miracle cure. It is not just a dilute oxidising agent. When formulated according to the instructions, it produces a highly poisonous gas.

If people are so obviously dying from it I would think the FBI/whoever could arrest those selling it and charge them with manslaughter and fraud. Why is this not happening?
The reason nobody is getting arrested for it (yet) is because sodium chlorite, like so many other industrial chemicals, is not actually a controlled substance, and it's perfectly legal for anybody to sell it to anybody else for any reason. But it's looking like that's about to change. In fact, the reason for the OP's request for donations is to help another promoter of MMS in a legal battle with the FDA. I don't know all the details, but I gather that if the FDA gets their way, they'll ban MMS outright and put an end to this nonsense once and for all.



If I'd made the same appeal for assistance in defending Vitamin C or Green Tea, would the attacks have been as fierce?  Because they'll be next on the FDA hit list (well, with Codex Alimentarius there have already been some attempts).
Neither vitamin C nor green tea are toxic industrial chemicals. I know of no attempt by the FDA or any other government agency to ban these (or the Codex Alimentarius, for that matter).

I learnt this just this morning:  "FDA does not allow companies to include the word adaptogen as a 'functional claim'."  Police State here we come.  Soon we'll all have to be OpenMesh and TOR just to try to avoid getting arrested for growing our own vegetables or giving them to our neighbours(which is also something else being tried out right now!).
You won't be arrested for growing or selling your own vegetables; you just can't make outrageous claims about them that aren't supported by science. The concept of "adaptogens" is not recognised by modern medicine. You especially can't claim that deadly poisons are in fact healthy.
4349  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Air gapped wallet printer on: April 27, 2012, 03:10:15 AM
I think any dedicated bitcoin device should have a hardware RNG. The only reason for messing about with such things as input timing is when a hardware RNG isn't available (like on most PCs, for example).

I wholeheartedly agree, but the last time I checked (and I admit, it's been some time) RNG hardware wasn't cheap, or at least the cheap stuff was awfully slow. Have things improved?

Well, the expensive stuff has always been faster than the cheap stuff (otherwise why would anyone buy it?), but you don't really need speed. "Awfully slow" these days means a few kilobytes of entropy per second. That's more than enough to generate a bitcoin address in less time than it takes to print it, and in any case is much, much faster than mashing the keyboard to produce entropy.
4350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Requesting donations for a cause on: April 27, 2012, 02:40:42 AM
Well, I doubt this MMS works as advertised and consuming oxidizing agents is generally bad for you, I am sure the same people taking it will just be convinced by random miracle workers/author's to drink diluted bleach instead.
What do you mean "instead"? Sodium chlorite is a bleach. That's actually its main use aside from industrial production of chlorine dioxide. I should point out that drinking bleach is not good for your health.

People should think of it the exact same way they do drinking bleach, or taking any experimental drug.
Experimental drugs are tested on animals to make sure there are no major side effects. Although not as safe as drugs tested on humans, they are still far safer than drinking bleach.

It might work, but no one knows, and it may kill you.
The effects of drinking bleach are well understood. They are not pretty.

On the other hand it may do nothing and just be a waste of your money.
If only. At least homoeopaths have the decency to dilute their poisons to safe (ie, non-existent) levels. I'll say it once more, just in case people aren't getting it: MMS IS A DEADLY POISON. DO NOT DRINK OR INHALE THIS SUBSTANCE IF YOU WANT TO LIVE.

Actually, if you know what AZT does, how viruses propagate, and how cancer works, the comparison makes sense. DNA analogs will interfere with both processes, as will oxidizing agents.
They affect these processes in completely different ways. There is no similarity between AZT (which is a proven HIV treatment) and oxidising agents (which are not).

With regards to MMS, I can think of many reasonable ways it could work. It could oxidize membrane proteins/lipids, thus interfering with viral shedding. It could oxidize viral coat proteins, thus interfering with viral transfer. It could damage cells, leading to a TH2 mediated immune response and sensitization to viral/cancer proteins you were formally non-allergic to.
Problem: industrial bleach is pretty non-discriminatory in what it oxidises. It kills everything, not just cancer and viruses.

The point stands though, that the same people taking this will also just go buy  Doc D's "Miracle bleach mixer" instead. It is a waste of money for the government to go after this.
The promoters of MMS are killing unsuspecting people by telling them deadly poisons are actually miracle cures. Going after killers is waste of government money?

Perhaps these psuedoscientist's should be sued instead. I'm not sure why this does not happen more often.
Probably because most psuedoscientists promote things that are mostly harmless, rather than industrial chemicals. Do you seriously not understand how dangerous MMS is? Literally every person who has taken MMS as directed has been seriously sickened, and at least one person has died as a direct result. THIS IS NOT JUST SOME HARMLESS NONSENSE. PEOPLE ARE DYING.
4351  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Air gapped wallet printer on: April 27, 2012, 01:40:17 AM
For entropy, I would ask someone to press a large number of keys.  The main source of entropy would be the system tick count collected with each keypress.

I think any dedicated bitcoin device should have a hardware RNG. The only reason for messing about with such things as input timing is when a hardware RNG isn't available (like on most PCs, for example).
4352  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happened with weusecoins.com on: April 26, 2012, 09:22:06 AM
I can confirm that Midskes was not hallucinating. The site was down for a short while, but now it's back up. No idea what happened though. Probably just moving to a new server or something.
4353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Requesting donations for a cause on: April 26, 2012, 08:45:19 AM
Please search the internet and find something like wikipedia or and MSDS sheet, and you'll find that Sodium Chlorite is actually in the pH range of Alkaline.  Anyhow, I wasn't asking for a chemistry debate, but for people to stand together for Soverign rights as a freeman.  If you live in the "United States of America", that is a country.  This isn't the USA we're talking about, it's (and capitals intended for legal accuracy) the "UNITED STATES", which is not a country, but a corporation, which is in Washington DC, not the entire continent of the United States of America.  Note the difference in the presentation, mostly overlooked by the average person.  I would have thought proponents of Bitcoin would be kind'a into personal freedom.  Have I really got mixed up with the wrong crowd here?

Paul

According to MSDS for sodium chlorite, it is "Very hazardous in case of skin contact, of eye contact, of ingestion, of inhalation" and "Severe over-exposure can result in death." It further advises that in case of ingestion or inhalation, one should "Seek immediate medical attention." It also states that one must "Never add water to this product", which is exactly how MMS is supposed to be used (the reason one must never add water to sodium chlorite is because it produces deadly chlorine dioxide gas, which is in fact acidic, not alkaline).

This is not a chemistry debate (the fact that both sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide are deadly poisons is not disputed by any chemist). This is not about rights. If it is about rights, it should be about the right of people not to be told that deadly poisons are in fact miracle cures for all manner of diseases. It's bad enough that there are people preying on the most desperate by selling miracle cures that don't work, but you're apparently not content to just take their money, you must take their lives as well, which is beyond reprehensible.

I can't speak for other users of Bitcoin, but when I use the term personal freedom, it does not include the freedom to kill people by telling them poisons are cures.
4354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Requesting donations for a cause on: April 26, 2012, 08:04:38 AM
MMS is not just sodium chlorite, it's sodium clorite dissolved in water to produce chlorine dioxide gas. Supposedly, inhaling chlorine dioxide gas will cure everything from the common cold to cancer. What it actually does is turn your blood to acid, causing you to die a horrible death (a bit of an oversimplification, but you really don't want to know the gory details). But hey, at least you don't you die of cancer. Roll Eyes

In all seriousness though, MMS IS HIGHLY TOXIC. IT HAS ALREADY KILLED AT LEAST ONE PERSON, AND MANY MORE HAVE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED. I STRONGLY URGE EVERYONE NOT TO DONATE TO THIS "CAUSE".
4355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations on: April 26, 2012, 07:28:24 AM
Shit you just gave me a huge idea.  On the Bitcoin day, the client can change the startup splash screen to a pizza.  And maybe embed some kind of other creative easter eggs.  Maybe a dialog can pop up with a link to meetup.com/bitcoinpizzaday so people can find where their local meetup is that day!

This is hugely stupid idea, and if you knew how the average person reacts when the software they're using to manage financial transactions suddenly starts doing all kinds of crazy shit for no apparent reason, you'd understand why. Roll Eyes
4356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MicroCash - New CryptoCurrency on: April 25, 2012, 09:49:53 AM
Whats the difference between SC3 (aka Microcrash) and Paypal?
PayPal isn't a pyramid scheme.

Is mining still needed?
Yes.

If so - why?
To get more people involved in the scheme in order to steal their money.

Isnt mining just some nice cosmetical way to satisfy people and make them think that they can actually earn something off of RealSolids share?
Yes.

How would banning be implemented?
Arbitrarily.

One DB Server (or cluster) or will banning be propagated through the network and 51% of the miners have to accept a node to no longer be supported?
Doesn't really matter.

If someone was banned: Would his coins be "tainted"?  ...
If by "tainted" you mean "put in the developers' pockets", then yes, most likely.

Any other questions?
4357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Space exploration have an effect on the market? on: April 25, 2012, 08:33:58 AM
If you ask me, Bitcoin was invented under the pseudonym "Satoshi Nakamot"o by ET, Godzilla, the Alien Queen and JFK in order to control the population and eventually seize power in 2012 (December 21st!!!).

How exactly is Bitcoin supposed to control the population? Unless... dammit, I knew I shouldn't have used my laptop for mining!
4358  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestion for totalization blocks. on: April 25, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
So basically bitcoin can be attacked by creating a billion different addresses and then transferring the smallest amount possible to that address?


(10 Bitcoin / 0.00000001)=1000000000
1000000000*(0.258kB per transaction?)

=246 GB addition to block chain?


Not bad for just 10 Bitcoin.
Huh

Don't forget the transaction fee (which in this case works out to around 2 million BTC or so), otherwise such transactions will never get included in the blockchain at all.
4359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Space exploration have an effect on the market? on: April 24, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Radiative heat dissipation depends on surface area. In zero atmosphere free fall, there are no structural loads. That means you can make really flimsy structures, like foil heat fins.
Hmm. Good point.

In space you can use replicators. That will have a huge effect on the market.
Fortunately, bitcoins are harder to replicate than latinum. Grin
4360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Microcash.org says "Solidcoin" on: April 24, 2012, 02:11:18 PM
MicroCash is a pyramid scheme because it steals from the poor to give to the rich. Bitcoin doesn't steal from anyone, and the block rewards are payed from a fixed and limited supply to those who take the time and effort to secure the network. It is not a pyramid scheme.

Ok you think bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, that's fine. But are you denying the block reward for bitcoin cuts in half over time to eventually reach a low of 0? Doesn't this mean if you mine at 50 BTC per block you are getting more than the guys you bring in to Bitcoin when it's 0 per block? Unless my math fails me, 50 is greater than 0.
Your math failed to teach you about addition. Miners receive transaction fees in addition to the block reward.

So every time a Bitcoin user educates his friends and family about Bitcoin, he is doing so under the guise that soon there will be less Bitcoin made, benefiting the early adopter who was mining at 50 bitcoins a block.
Irrelevant. He mines 50 bitcoins a block whether he gets other people involved or not, because the block reward isn't stolen from other users.

Again, unless my math fails me it seems like the people who get in earlier in Bitcoin make more coins, and by encouraging more people in, those new people make less coins giving greater value to the first coins.....
Yup, your math fails you again. Encouraging new people in has no effect whatsoever on the block reward.

Of course Bitcoin isn't a pyramid scheme, I was just kidding around there friend. If anything is a pyramid scheme it's MicroCash, where fees are equally distributed back to the chain depending on the amount of MicroCash in them. If anything screams pyramid to me, it's a blockchain where fees are redistributed proportionally to the amount of MicroCash you have.
There you have it folks, he admits the whole thing's a pyramid scheme. Can we go now?

Thanks for clearing it up for us.
Glad to be of service. Grin
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