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441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why you mostly like bitcoin compare to other digital currency? on: October 01, 2015, 12:08:06 PM
i heard many Cryptocurrency but why people mostly use bitcoin?

Bitcoin is going to be implemented in many big stores and why not using it.
Fiverr accepts bitcoin, and many other, bitcoin has been for a long time in the market and i consider it as the main cryptocurrency coin.
Other coins are called alt coins because of this, it's not that people don't use these but less than bitcoin.
442  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 01, 2015, 12:05:07 PM
i rather keep gold, who know bitcoin in future is like $10 for 1btc  Grin just maybe

That can also happen, because nobody can control the market and the bitcoin price.
Gold is something that has been in the market for a long time and it's hard to crash its price.
With this trend i think that bitcoin will cost more in the next few years and if you hold form now a profit should be appear.
443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2015, 12:03:50 PM
I'm now playing hyip, can earn some little money.     

Just watch out with that. I lost a few BTC with hyip. Don't think it would not happen to you.

yes I am also quite regret ever playing HYIP. Now I really hate it when I heard HYIP investment.
maybe you are lucky to make a profit in HYIP for now, but one day you will lose everything, so be careful Smiley

i always try HYIP but only if that site is new and just once with some bitcoin but actually its not much, so far i've got double from them i.e bitcoinsdouble,com after that i leave it, i would never to deposit again because i think i will lose all  of my bitcoin if i deposit again, but iam not sure if we're going to get double at the first time

Which HYIP are you currently trying to earn some bitcoins, i would be interested to invest and try if i win.
There are many scams nowadays, and the latest one i was watching was honestdoubler which was running for a long time and paid many users until the end.
Method to grown your bitcoins can be selling any physical things and you get directly the bitcoins.
444  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to make a living online? on: October 01, 2015, 12:01:57 PM
Some people live from adsense ,they write a blog,traffic makes the result,soo inst need more then one job ,needs is skills written and knowledge to bring followers at it .These is one of the cheapest ways to live from online ,since google offers you a domain for free .

Mostly people who are earning a lot from adsense get banned very fast (not all).
Because they use many illegal things that Google Adsense does not allow, but at the moment it is the most profitable sources in their competition.
You can make a living online but i would not base too much, they can change the rules, can go offline and it is very risky.

You talk as if adsense were the only payment network.

There are atleast 10 other and much better ad networks out there.

If you have a high page rank, then you can get even fixed rates, one that pays 9-15$/month/ad unit. You stack 20 ad units in your site and you got a good income.

It should be easy

I am talking that Google Adsense is leading and it is the best that pays higher than any other competitors.
There are many other like google adsense but they pay less and have different rules and restriction.
If you sell by fixed ad units then this is another thing and you can live from this of course.
445  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: October 01, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
best way to earn bitcoin is earn to earn fiat and convert it on some reputable exchange. it is easiest and mainly safest way and you had full control over it.)

this is exactly what I have been doing recently, as for me earn dollar from internet is more easy than earn bitcoin except signature campaign,earning dollar with my method and strategy and than convert it to the bitcoin thats good because bitcoin's fee for withdraw is smallest than the other payment processor

Converting like he was saying is not mainly the easiest way to earn btc's. Bitcoin price are not stable and even you had a full contol of it the one you will control here is your guessing ability and I found it hard in my part lol.

Actually my first purpose to earn  bitcoin is not to hold bitcoin, but to convert them to the fiat and to reduce the fee and time, because bitcoin is most simple than other payment processor i.e paypal,as i know that bitcoin's fee so low and no need long time to convert them to the fiat so this is my fastest way to withdraw my money from paypal to fiat,i sold my balance on paypal to my friend and then he sent me bitcoin

If you look at the exchange currency you can see that it's hard to find anyone that will accepts PayPal so i think you are lucky.
Maybe your friends is not taking any commission, what i would suggest you is to take a look at the bitcoin debit cards.
They are different kind from different providers and different fees, maybe this could be better for you.
446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you used Bitcoin as Real money to buy Real/physical goods? on: October 01, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
Recently, I used bitcoins to buy a pizza and get it delivered in front of my doorsteps, but I didn't get that pizza straight for bitcoins instead, I bought a gift card online and used it to order that Pepperoni and Cheese pizza with other toppings. It tastes pretty good and feels pretty good to buy your food with bitcoin, though it would feel better if you can buy food online or physically with directly using bitcoins.
You bought a pizza? How many bitcoins does it cost? I bet it is lower than 10000 BTC.

For me, I have never pay anything for bitcoin in real life, however one time when I travel to the next city, I have saw a shop which is in a metropolis area showing a bitcoin logo outside of the shop (and I realized that it was a shop for buying/selling bitcoins). I don't took a picture, because at the time I've seen that shop we were in hurry Sad

I wish one day I could pay bitcoin in bigger restaurants like McDonald's (I eat few times a week there Grin) and I could found a way to spend my BTC in real life Smiley

Lol that story of 10,000BTC hehe, the bitcoin in this case were used to buy gift card and then buying pizza which is not directly buying by bitcoins.
This can be done also by using the bitcoin debit cards, which converts the bitcoin into cash and you can buy anything that you can buy with a normal credit/debit card.
447  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: October 01, 2015, 11:48:30 AM

1k+ a month? That is not possible only by faucets or only by signature campaign.
To earn that amount of money you have to hard work and have good skills like developing apps, exchanges, websites etc.
It depends on which country do you live but 1k+ a month is more than good enough for a person.

Yeah, it is not possible for only one thing, like I join signature campaign, I got paid 0.05btc to 0.1 btc per week if I post a lot, I can get 0.0014btc per post rate which is highest in the community. If i only claim faucets, maybe only 0.01 btc in one month, but i didn't make so much before.   Sad

Let's say that you earn 0.14BTC in a week that is 0.56BTC within a month.
That is the most that a hero member can get which is pretty good, + other sources you probably can reach ~1BTC a month.

for real? a hero member that still claim on faucets? Cheesy
what i expect to veteran members is earning  1 BTC a week online Cheesy am i right or not?
i am really surprised that there are still old members that uses faucets.

It is just a forum rank and it does not prove that you are earning 1BTC+ within a week.
448  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Mybestbitcoin - 700 Satoshis - 360 min - 15% Ref commission on: October 01, 2015, 01:21:58 AM
I just visited your faucet website and i was expecting lots of ads and popups but it's clean Smiley
The website looks awesome and to get the reward it is just one click.
300 satoshi is good, but if you have a good budget you can increase it and more users will be active.
449  Other / Meta / Re: Why is selling accounts okay but not reputation loans or trades? on: October 01, 2015, 01:14:09 AM
People are quick to leave negative feedback for reputation loans and trades but not on bought accounts which are being used to buy, sell, trade and etc. Really, what's the difference? Neither are against the rules.

People are quick to leave negative feedback for loans that does not have valid collateral or that have been defaulted in the past.
This is because to prevent another scam, and others can see the red color.
About the bought accounts, theymos said that it is allowed to sell/buy forum accounts and i don't see that it is a good way to leave negative feedback on these account. A neutral one i consider the border, to notify the others that the account is owned by somebody else.
450  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2015, 12:49:54 AM
I think that to motivate women to use bitcoin can be in many ways.
You should select the women that use computer, women that make often orders online.
So they can better and faster learn about the new payment method - bitcoin.
451  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to make a living online? on: October 01, 2015, 12:48:41 AM
Some people live from adsense ,they write a blog,traffic makes the result,soo inst need more then one job ,needs is skills written and knowledge to bring followers at it .These is one of the cheapest ways to live from online ,since google offers you a domain for free .

Mostly people who are earning a lot from adsense get banned very fast (not all).
Because they use many illegal things that Google Adsense does not allow, but at the moment it is the most profitable sources in their competition.
You can make a living online but i would not base too much, they can change the rules, can go offline and it is very risky.
452  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: do you believe with bitcoin on: October 01, 2015, 12:42:43 AM
When i heard about bitcoin there were only a small community who heard about it
And who have made any deals through bitcoin as a payment, now bitcoin has been more popular
Many services operates only in bitcoin and big companies like fiverr accept bitcoin as a payment so i believe that it will be more popular very soon.
453  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Do You Earn Free Bitcoins? on: October 01, 2015, 12:40:48 AM
The term "Free" in this case can be also investing your time but not investing your money.
Personally i get "free" bitcoins by trading alt coins or directly trading bitcoins in different exchanges.
Another way of these "free" bitcoins are by signature campaign but it takes time and skills.
454  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: October 01, 2015, 12:37:28 AM
1oTTeRv4orMpeeiN8fDr1jN6ZkMrzohjD

Thanks! Smiley

I see that this is your second post in the forum and i think that you should learn how to sign a message.
Here is a good tutorial from shorena how to sign an address from different wallets
Check the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345 and come back here and post the signed message.

No problem! Smiley

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am otterboxed on bct.org, today @11:53 pm UTC on 9/30/2015.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1oTTeRv4orMpeeiN8fDr1jN6ZkMrzohjD
HDI/nQ+rf7mtw99fe7dF3iFfHYMtBwcMiSJlzPgf6/79RbzdbJ+z5eHfSHOBsqBor6vv4u1s2WyasnJ3L3fV5/g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

There is an error with your signed message, please try again to sign the message.
Btw which wallet are you using maybe i can help you?
Message failed to verify!

Sorry, it's mycelium, it doesn't format right. I have to crash but will get back tomorrow sorry! It's my address, trust me lol Wink

I can trust you and i can't trust you, because i don't need it.
The purpose of this thread is to protect your account in the future.
If your account is stolen/hacked and you have an address here posted and quoted by someone then you can recover your account by signing a message from the same address that you have posted here.
Signing a message from mycelium in android phone is easy, if you need help let me know.
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much do you think 1 Bitcoin will be worth in 2020? on: October 01, 2015, 12:32:22 AM
i think 1 Bitcoin will be worth between range $500-$1000 in 2020 because i'm very doubt the bitcoin price can reach more than $1000
even in the next 5 year and i think highest price of bitcoin in 2020 only can reach $1000 and then could be back to $500 or less

I am more positive than that. i see that bitcoin has since 2012 grown more than 2.26 per annum but i use that factor to get a conservative bottom price if it crashed (but did not fail which would take it to near zero).
So i see bitcoin being at the very least $5,365 in 2020.

so buying now at around $300 should mean your investment grows 18 times in the period.

Year   Expected Lowest price
2012   $4
2013   $10
2014   $24
2015   $60
2016   $146
2017   $360
2018   $886
2019   $2,181
2020   $5,365

here is what the actual lowest price was
Year   Actual
2012   $4
2013   $13
2014   $302
2015   $177
2016   n/a
2017   n/a
2018   n/a
2019   n/a
2020   n/a

For this year 177$? I have read in coindesk that the bitcoin price was fallen down to ~150$
That was the lowest price for this year but still 3 months counting.
Since the block reward is going to be deducted by 50% every time (every 3-4 years) then i think $1k probably will be at 2020
456  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Which Bitcoin Exchange do you use and why ? on: October 01, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
I have been moved to some alt coins recently and i am trading with them.
The most preferred bitcoin exchange is for the moment YoBit.
Because they list up the new alt coins very fast (immediately) and i don't have to wait for other exchanges that takes weeks/months for a coin to be listed.
457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price Prediction 2015 ฿ on: October 01, 2015, 12:27:15 AM
2015 is almost ending but there are still 3 months to reach the new year.
The price of this year will be end maybe by 280$ - 300$ and that is fair enough.
It can also be dumped and the price to decrease but it will be increased next year.
458  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: October 01, 2015, 12:25:01 AM
Lots of bitcoiners says they will buy a lot of bitcoin if the price fall into $100 but the reality is when the price become $100 they won't because they are thinking if it's still worth it to invest in bitcoin.

I have a feeling that the bitcoin price will be increased to much in the half of the next year.

The price probably will not decrease as the block reward will be decreased to 12.5BTC per block.
459  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: September 30, 2015, 11:59:31 PM
1oTTeRv4orMpeeiN8fDr1jN6ZkMrzohjD

Thanks! Smiley

I see that this is your second post in the forum and i think that you should learn how to sign a message.
Here is a good tutorial from shorena how to sign an address from different wallets
Check the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345 and come back here and post the signed message.

No problem! Smiley

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am otterboxed on bct.org, today @11:53 pm UTC on 9/30/2015.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1oTTeRv4orMpeeiN8fDr1jN6ZkMrzohjD
HDI/nQ+rf7mtw99fe7dF3iFfHYMtBwcMiSJlzPgf6/79RbzdbJ+z5eHfSHOBsqBor6vv4u1s2WyasnJ3L3fV5/g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

There is an error with your signed message, please try again to sign the message.
Btw which wallet are you using maybe i can help you?
Message failed to verify!
460  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: September 30, 2015, 11:39:53 PM
1oTTeRv4orMpeeiN8fDr1jN6ZkMrzohjD

Thanks! Smiley

I see that this is your second post in the forum and i think that you should learn how to sign a message.
Here is a good tutorial from shorena how to sign an address from different wallets
Check the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345 and come back here and post the signed message.
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