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441  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC prise isnt rising! USD is loosing value, thats all! on: February 08, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
If the USD lost 50% of its value in 1 month I wouldn't like to be working in law enforcement.
442  Bitcoin / Press / 2013-02-07 GQ Magazine: Unravelling the Dark Web on: February 08, 2013, 04:36:33 PM
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2013-02/07/silk-road-online-drugs-guns-black-market/viewall

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Forget South American cartels and Russian arms dealers: the black market has moved online......


Want to buy an M4A3 assault rifle, a forged UK passport or a few grams of crystal meth and have it delivered to your door? On the dark web you can find it, on sites such as BlackMarket Reloaded, where AK47s are on sale alongside Afghan heroin, or CC Paradise, selling stolen credit-card data. You can even find dubious listings for contract killers (yours for £12,500, half up front). But the biggest digital black market-place of all is called Silk Road.

Silk Road - named after the ancient trade route between Asia and Europe - opened in February 2011. The site is similar to eBay or Amazon: users can sign up and buy and sell almost whatever they please. It has a rudimentary green-and-white design, but all the functionality you'd expect from a legal online marketplace: individual seller pages, buyer feedback, even an escrow system to protect against fraudulent vendors.............

They say when you're trying to catch a criminal, follow the money - which led GQ to a blandly lit conference room at London's Royal National Hotel on a weekend last September, listening to cryptographers and laptop economists talk about a currency that doesn't really exist. Bitcoin is a digital currency established in 2009 by another pseudonymous founder, Satoshi Nakamoto. The currency exists only online and transactions are encrypted, so that users can be anonymous. Rather than using named bank accounts, amounts are transferred between web-like addresses called "wallets". Coins can be traded for real-world currency at online exchanges. While the exchange rate has fluctuated wildly, at the time of writing one coin is worth about £7.50, valuing the total number of Bitcoins in circulation at around £75m.

A non-sensational write up about how online black markets have progressed from the Farmers Market thanks to Bitcoin. They even get a few one word email answers from Dread Pirate Roberts!
443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bill Still ("The Money Masters") not a fan of Bitcoin (Adam vs The Man) on: February 07, 2013, 04:42:22 PM
Bill Still has a huge amount of credibility as a historian and monetary expert, but he doesn't fully understand Bitcoin. That does not translate as 'Bill Still has no credibility'.
Yes he probably should have stated that he isn't an expert on the cryptographically secure nature of Bitcoin, but it wasn't entirely wrong for him to surmise that Bitcoin is insecure - Mt. Gox makes up the majority of the market, and it is still vulnerable to attack, therefore the price of Bitcoin is also vulnerable to massive instability, at least on a short timescale.
So he didn't realise his comments were actually relating to a Bitcoin exchange, rather than Bitcoin the network - his comments were still partially valid.
If you're serious about promoting Bitcoin, then you should be sending Bill Still emails explaining to him how it works. The more people like Still that Bitcoin has on its side, the better.

Please stop putting people on a pedestal. Saying," I don't know", requires more bravery and humility than making up some bullshit nonsense and saying it with gusto and authority. It shows that he's willing to make up stuff just to keep the authoritative persona intact. That's a serious blow to his credibility in my mind.

He tweets @billstill if anyone feels like giving him a Bitcoin/humility lesson.
444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bill Still ("The Money Masters") not a fan of Bitcoin (Adam vs The Man) on: February 07, 2013, 01:17:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUqYrWYrc8o&list=UU0RJJ_Wm7jyOU9eY10LgcwA&index=18


Still: I basically have a lot of trouble being comfortable with Bitcoin. Number one, it was hacked about two years ago. Number two, although it purports to be decentralized money and everybody says 'oh, the security features make it impossible to control centrally,' you know, I just...I have no facts to support it, I just, I'm uncomfortable with the situation.

Anyone who says nonsense like that has no credibility. Why can't people just say, " I don't know enough about it to make a comment".
445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Live debate tonight 7PM GMT - Gavin Andresen will be there on: February 03, 2013, 01:30:47 AM
Great job, Gavin.

Quick aside. When Truthloader first came upon the scene a couple short months ago, I sincerely felt, and still do, that somehow Google is behind it. They only had a small handful of videos up at the time, each having very few view counts, but Google gave it tremendous juice on its news site. After kept seeing it over and over again at the time, and doing some research (basically finding nothing to support my theory), it still seemed like Google was/is behind it. I'm not saying that that's a good or bad thing. Just saying.

Boy, wouldn't that be something if we later learn that Google was behind Bitcoin from the get-go?

My apologies for the long aside.

~Bruno K~

When I first saw their channel I thought it was a grassroots kind of thing produced in a bedroom. Turns out it's being backed by the corporate news company ITN. I don't think google is involved per say but they might have some influence since they're driving so much traffic to their channel.

http://corporate.itn.co.uk/press.php?parent_id=13&content_id=1365

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ITN PRODUCTIONS TO PRODUCE “TRUTHLOADER” CHANNEL FOR YOUTUBE

ITN Productions is launching a new citizen journalism channel on YouTube as part of YouTube’s original channels initiative, announced today at MIPCOM.

The “Truthloader” channel will showcase the work of citizen journalists from all around the world with original daily programming from amateur eyewitnesses and passionate online campaigners. The citizen journalism will be curated by social media experts and professional journalists at ITN Productions.

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ITN is one of the world's leading news and multimedia content companies creating, packaging and distributing news, entertainment, factual and corporate content on multiple platforms to customers around the globe.

The news programming produced for ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 reaches around 10 million people every day, providing comprehensive, impartial news provision for the British public. ITN's news is watched by millions of viewers worldwide, through partnerships with global news outlets such as Reuters, CNN and NBC and online partners such as Livestation, YouTube and MSN.
446  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-01-03 keiser report - Hierarchy of Fraud (E388) (John Perry Barlow intrvw) on: February 02, 2013, 01:44:09 AM
John Perry Barlow was completely pathetic. I don't know what kind of inspirational work he's done in the past to deserve his title of "The Thomas Jefferson of the Internet" but he's completely lost the plot with his outright rejection of Bitcoin. The guy seriously sucked. He couldn't even explain how Press Freedom Foundation made the donations anonymous. I presume the donations aren't anonymous, just the different percentages that you give to each organisation. And what happens when the Press Freedom Foundation account gets frozen because of their association with Wiki Leaks. Jesus Wept. The guy sounded like such a tool when he said, "we've raised X amount of real dollars, not bitcoins!". And calling Bitcoin users UNIX weenies.....arghhhh  Angry

I'm so angry right now. I expected so much more from a libertarian intellectual.
447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we due for a correction ? on: February 01, 2013, 08:16:33 PM
now people get enough time (couple of weeks) to get used to $20 before going to $30. so then $20 would be considered a bargain and form a new support. baby steps.

Exactly.
448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we due for a correction ? on: February 01, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
Yeah, that's the exact mentality people had at the last $30 bubble.  Didn't work out well for a lot of people......

The 2011 bubble lasted a week. There wasn't time for people to acquire a mentality.
449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kim Dotcom Mansion: Press conference 2013-01-19 GMT on: January 18, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
I will be attending the conference with several staff, We are also considering putting in a few nodes to contribute towards such an interesting project.

Quantum Kiwi - CEO - Logan

YAY!! Where can I follow you??
Have you got some twitter, facebook, etc. account?

Im excited Grin
No Spekulatius, you just want to speculate Smiley

http://kim.com/mega/press/

22 hours left.

Ha, we have the next Nathan Mayer Rothschild in our midst  Cheesy

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To the Rothschilds, [England's] chief financial agents, Waterloo brought a many million pound scoop.
... a Rothschild agent ... jumped into a boat at Ostend ... Nathan Rothschild ... let his eye fly over the lead paragraphs. A moment later he was on his way to London (beating Wellington's envoy by many hours) to tell the government that Napoleon had been crushed: but his news was not believed, because the government had just heard of the English defeat at Quatre Bras. Then he proceeded to the Stock Exchange.
Another man in his position would have sunk his work into consols (bank annuities), already weak because of Quatre Bras. But this was Nathan Rothschild. He leaned against "his" pillar. He did not invest. He sold. He dumped consols.
...Consols dropped still more. "Rothschild knows," the whisper rippled through the 'Change. "Waterloo is lost."
Nathan kept on selling ... consols plummeted—until, a split second before it was too late, Nathan suddenly bought a giant parcel for a song. Moments afterwards the great news broke, to send consols soaring.
We cannot guess the number of hopes and savings wiped out by this engineered panic.
450  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Great Silk Road Crash of 20** ...? on: January 18, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
I meant ones who, like me, actually went to college to learn programming and database design.  Not just someone who attempted to sort of learn it on the internet and only learned the syntax then volunteered for a FOSS project like phpBB3 or something.  That reminds me of all the women in my web design class who knew nothing about computers or servers or the internet.  They just wanted a more modern job than fashion design so they switched degrees and now they make website without knowing what Redhat is or what JPG compression means.  Those people have no business working in IT.

You're just acting bitter now because none of them would be your friend. Give up that ghost and get on with your life. There's plenty more fish in the sea!
451  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll] How long until $1000 per 1 Bitcoin? on: January 17, 2013, 06:10:28 PM
The client isnt user freindly, takes a good deal of research to use, your average person is computer illiterate (read:likely to delete thier wallet, send to the wrong address, etc), and requires a lot of steps to keep your money secure. The exchanges are a hassle to use, leave you open to having your money stolen by the owner of the exchange (as we have seen a shitload of times), most require an ID (so much for anonymity), and if you are lucky enough you might not get your money stolen in a hack.

When people have an incentive to learn no amount of hassle or research reading is going to stop them from figuring it out. Just browse the silkroad subreddit sometime and see how quickly college students and ex hippy baby boomers pick up PGP and coin tumbling.
452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kim Dotcom Mansion: Press conference 2013-01-17 GMT on: January 17, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
According to this article in the International Business Times the big press launch at his mansion is not until Sunday 20th

http://www.ibtimes.com/kim-dotcom-launch-mega-secure-follow-megaupload-saturday-1021130

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Rather than lay low until the extradition case is resolved, Dotcom will hold a news conference at his $25 million New Zealand home on Saturday, Eastern Standard Time
(Sunday in New Zealand’s time zone.)


He posted this screen shot of the new mega account page in his twitter feed. Since he is still using "billing cycle" terminology it looks like he is going down the credit card route  Undecided

453  Economy / Speculation / Re: A word of caution to those who have bought recently on: January 17, 2013, 02:44:49 AM
what the fuck does he mean he was buying for?

NZBsRus is a Usenet provider that had its Paypal account cancelled. The guy was buying a subscription.
454  Economy / Speculation / Re: A word of caution to those who have bought recently on: January 17, 2013, 02:24:37 AM
All you conspiracy nutjobs make me smile.

Posted on another forum today, this is the reason why Bitcoin has been rising.

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My VIP for NZBsrUs ran out I guess, or they couldn't verify it or something, so I have to buy a new one with BitCoin. It doesn't bother me really, it's just a pain to get an active BitCoin Wallet. I linked it to an account that doesn't ever have much money in it, so I figured what the hey. It's taken me a few days to verify my account, and I just bought my first BitCoin to join.

It's simple. More and more people are finding a use for Bitcoin.
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin market on: January 06, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
bitcoins are wayyy overpriced right now. even ignoring technical analysis (which i generally do not -- i've been following along in the CRASH thread with similar notations and predictions as lucif) there is reason to suspect, as many on this forum -- albeit quietly -- do, that we are heading towards a midterm downtrend or even, for the first time in bitcoin history, a long-term downtrend.

and finally, probably my most subjective point:

bitcoins were worth $5 six months ago and there has been no significant increase in their utility or future value promise: i firmly believe the recent doubling is due to hype about the reward halving and market manipulation by pirate and others.

WRONG!

Six months ago it wasn't possible to buy cocaine straight from Colombia and have it shipped to Europe/US on Silkroad. Now it is. Like it or not that is a big boost to the utility value of Bitcoin.   
456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would an average person actually choose to use Bitcoin? on: December 17, 2012, 01:39:42 PM
Bitcoin allows people to separate their wealth from their identity. Very useful for someone who likes to keep a low profile.
457  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-15 Forbes.com - U.S. Secret Service Bans Certain Gold and Silver Coins on: December 17, 2012, 01:33:31 PM
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U.S. Attorney Anne M. Tompkins declared:

Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism. While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country. We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.

this is sickening.

As far as I'm aware not a single central bank chief from around the world is elected using a popular vote. Instead they're all appointed on the recommendations of vested interests.

I'd love to be able to vote to stop the money printing insanity!
458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Big Shots in favor of Bitcoin on: November 30, 2012, 01:11:59 AM
Many big shots only became big shots because they were able to borrow vast sums of money from the banking system at better rates than their competition.

Dogs don't bite the hand that feeds them. Don't expect any big business to endorse Bitcoin any time soon.

can give me an example?

Donald Trump. From his Wikipedia page

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Trump claimed that upon his arrival to Manhattan in 1971 he was practically broke, this gave birth to his plan to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down.

If bankers hadn't fallen for his bullshit Trump would have been just another builder with dreams and big ideas.
459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Big Shots in favor of Bitcoin on: November 29, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
Many big shots only became big shots because they were able to borrow vast sums of money from the banking system at better rates than their competition.

Dogs don't bite the hand that feeds them. Don't expect any big business to endorse Bitcoin any time soon.
460  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-11-29 bbc.co.uk - Piracy site Newzbin2 gives up and closes on: November 29, 2012, 06:42:36 PM
Article about Newzbin2 closing after legal and financial trouble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20540853

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Newzbin2, once one of the web's most popular sites offering links to pirated content, has decided to close.

It comes 15 months after a UK court ordered internet service providers to block the site, and amid global pressure from copyright holders.

Internet rights groups said the move was "pointless" in stopping piracy.

In a statement, Newzbin2's owners said it had struggled to cover costs because payment providers had "understandably lost their nerve".

"Newzbin2 was always hoped to be a viable underground commercial venture," the site said.

"The figures just don't stack up."

................................

"All our payment providers dropped out or started running scared," the site said.

It added that accepting Bitcoin - an electronic, hard-to-track currency - had not been an option because it was "just too hard for 90% of people".

Pretty pathetic that they wouldn't give Bitcoin a chance even for the 10% of their customers who "got it".
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