Yes, be safe. Use a brain. Good words to live by. If this thread is deleted now, I'll eat my hat.
But... gone will be the proof that you said this.... So would my hat. Easy to say now, but when the thread gets deleted, are you going to go all MNW on us?  |
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Yes, be safe. Use a brain. Good words to live by. If this thread is deleted now, I'll eat my hat.
But... gone will be the proof that you said this.... |
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Thanks, that's all I needed. Now, since the DHS is involved, clearly the case involved terrorists, yes? So the title is neither sensationalist, nor a lie.
The Sun is made of cotton candy! The Sun is made of cotton candy! Maybe if I say it over and over again, it becomes true? I mean, that must be what happens. There is no other reason you would so blatantly lie over and over again. Continue this type of garbage discussion and I will ignore you for trolling. Now try again, and think before you post this time. Or maybe a better title would be: DHS desperate for purpose, claims flimsy excuse to raid mall kisoks? |
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in other words, you've claimed that, from the perspective of public good, monopolies are intrinsically flawed. Of course they are. The incentive, if you're a monopoly, is to raise the price until your public can barely afford it. Likewise, to lower your quality until the public can just barely stand it. That way you get the most per-unit profit. Aaah, that's where the problem lies for you! I have a very simple answer: Who, in God's name, told you that raising prices is ever the incentive in any form of socialism, no matter how muddled? The incentive is *helping fellow man*! Oh, did I say "you get the most per unit profit"? I'm sorry, I meant "the workers get paid the full value of their labor." |
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in other words, you've claimed that, from the perspective of public good, monopolies are intrinsically flawed. Of course they are. The incentive, if you're a monopoly, is to raise the price until your public can barely afford it. Likewise, to lower your quality until the public can just barely stand it. That way you get the most per-unit profit. |
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Which ones? The ones involving terrorists?
Or trademark violations?
The former... Thanks, that's all I needed. Now, since the DHS is involved, clearly the case involved terrorists, yes? So the title is neither sensationalist, nor a lie. |
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Busting local kiosks should be done by local police after their done busting everyone for city infractions.
DHS are the police when it involves crimes such as these. Which ones? The ones involving terrorists? Or trademark violations? |
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One word is all it takes to make a lie.
This is correct, but irrelevant. My previous statement remains to be correct. Make sure you know the English language before you make posts in it. So should you. police plural of po·lice (Noun)
Noun
The civil force of a federal or local government, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is a cabinet department of the United States federal government, created in response to the September 11 attacks, and with the primary responsibilities of protecting the United States of America and U.S. territories (including protectorates) from and responding to terrorist attacks, man-made accidents, and natural disasters. |
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So your understanding of economy could be reduced to providing me with ... wiki links? No, but if you have absorbed the information on that page and don't understand how it means that communism/socialism can never properly run an economy, you won't be able to understand anything I explain to you, either. Nicely put. In other words, those who can't see this are blind, those who can't hear it are deaf? Please make your own arguments Very well. How are you going to solve that problem, hmm? How do you plan an economy from the center? |
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So now you're claiming it wasn't DHS?
Please point out where I claimed that. I also suggest looking up the definition of the word "police." One word is all it takes to make a lie. |
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So your understanding of economy could be reduced to providing me with ... wiki links? No, but if you have absorbed the information on that page and don't understand how it means that communism/socialism can never properly run an economy, you won't be able to understand anything I explain to you, either. |
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A Socialist Republic is still a Republic, and it fits the description. No it doesn't. And it's not a regional monopoly. Yes it is. Just because people have to be judges and stuff doesn't mean they are a monopoly. It does if there's only one place you can go to have your case judged. Coke and Pepsi, remember? You could have a publicly owned republic with elected officials.
You could. But it wouldn't be what I'm talking about. |
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How would you incentivise a shoe factory in a competitive environment to manufacture the needed shoes? The competitive environment. That's about as much of an answer as if i said "noncompetitive environment." Please don't bluff & answer the question. [/quote] If you don't make the shoes people need, they buy the other company's shoes, and you go out of business. Don't spam the thread with that link. I've read the page. Now tell me why it's supposed to convince me of inherent flaws of Socialism, communism, monopolies or tea in China?
If you've read the page - actually read it, not just skimmed it - and still don't understand, I can't help you. |
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Well, given that they're doing it wholesale, and this is just one tiny fudge, aren't there bigger fish to fry? I mean, all he did was leave out "could."
One word is all it takes to make the truth a lie. The real question is why was the title "Police seize counterfeit goods from stores" not chosen? The answer is obvious: because the truth is boring. So now you're claiming it wasn't DHS? |
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No, not even remotely.
Not remotely, EXACTLY. Republics offer complete individual freedom, but still has elected officials. I love how you contradict yourself there. A republic does not offer market competition in government services. It's still a regional monopoly. |
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This is Communist utopia, where "in people's best interest" means exactly that, and not a euphemism for "churn Uranium 'till you drop dead." Are we on the same page? I see. So we're talking about a fantasy land. You should have told me, I would have included more unicorns in my examples. How would you incentivise a shoe factory in a competitive environment to manufacture the needed shoes? The competitive environment. You're looking for problems intrinsic to monopolies, not problems often associated with monopolies. The economic calculation problem is intrinsic to monopolies. As are the reversed incentives leading to poor service and high prices. Well no, please provide source  The link is provided twice in the above quote. Feel free to click either one. |
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I believe this too. Including removing the monopoly? Eventually yes, but the government must first put programs in place and offer tons of social welfare, so that the people can survive without them once they are gone. Because if we just took away the government monopoly all at once, there would be no justice groups, or anything. I don't think you understand what I mean by "remove the monopoly." I mean "allow market competition in those services." Oh, then yes. That would be the perfect way to do it. Allow them to compete for the spots until eventually the government is just out of programs and the people take care of it. Maybe make the government nothing more than parks and rec.  No, I think you still don't get it. Coke is in market competition with Pepsi. Can I prevent you from drinking Pepsi if I prefer Coke? Government services should be like that. Oh, yeah. That's a republic. No, not even remotely. |
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Yeah, I don't like the direction xbox is going. It was a game console, but now they're trying to make it an everything. I already have a computer
EDIT: Kinect is pretty cool, though.
I admit, Kinect is cool. I was really excited when they launched that. I remember a Penny Arcade comic that would have been really funny here, but my search-fu has failed me.  |
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I believe this too. Including removing the monopoly? Eventually yes, but the government must first put programs in place and offer tons of social welfare, so that the people can survive without them once they are gone. Because if we just took away the government monopoly all at once, there would be no justice groups, or anything. I don't think you understand what I mean by "remove the monopoly." I mean "allow market competition in those services." Oh, then yes. That would be the perfect way to do it. Allow them to compete for the spots until eventually the government is just out of programs and the people take care of it. Maybe make the government nothing more than parks and rec. No, I think you still don't get it. Coke is in market competition with Pepsi. Can I prevent you from drinking Pepsi if I prefer Coke? Government services should be like that. |
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I believe this too. Including removing the monopoly? Eventually yes, but the government must first put programs in place and offer tons of social welfare, so that the people can survive without them once they are gone. Because if we just took away the government monopoly all at once, there would be no justice groups, or anything. I don't think you understand what I mean by "remove the monopoly." I mean "allow market competition in those services." |
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