Pretty odd, I think Last month he contacted me on localbitcoins to buy some btc.
He better get his act straight
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Lets see who else is interested, So far its only you, though I really appreciate sub's initiative, but I m afraid he wont be here.
dont worry i will get you all the support you need .
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Wow! funny.
RBI puts out a press release, few indian exchanges close their shutters. Bitcoin's overall network dont give a shit about it.
Sad to know India cant even make a mark in new technology, and the regulatory authority is acting like it the next big thing in money laundering weapon. and Permission is required. Meh......
It was Christmas so, Bah Humbug!!
satisfied much.
Care to share the charts ? the charts keep going up.
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Wut is RBI? Brah
I think it was a dinosaur that was suppose to die out, when the meteor hit earth a few million years ago.
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Wow! funny.
RBI puts out a press release, few indian exchanges close their shutters. Bitcoin's overall network dont give a shit about it.
Sad to know India cant even make a mark in new technology, and the regulatory authority is acting like it the next big thing in money laundering weapon. and Permission is required. Meh......
It was Christmas so, Bah Humbug!!
satisfied much.
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I'll soon be accepting Bitcoins in http://re.2et.in ...I hope RBI guidelines does not have any problem in accepting Bitcoin !!! Can anyone please clarify ? yes you can accept bitcoins.
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Yeh they are something like INRBTC, escrow based. Based out of India the RBI ruling does not effect them , Infact it should not effect INRBTC as they dont directly transact in INR. INRBTC should be ok to start business as they dont deal anything in BTC Yes, INRBTC.com does not take FIAT money. We take commission in bitcoins. It is the users who use the services of INRBTC.com who need protection from legal exposure. As they will be dealing with counter-parties, they need to be assured that the counter-parties are known entities. We are trying to figure out the best way to protect them. I have sent an email to Aadhar development team for access to their Authentication system on 24th Dec, but I have not received any response so far. They are currently running it on a trial basis. If any of you can get me an intro that would be a good way to start. As all Aadhar holders are verified by the Government for Identity and Address proof, anybody who holds a valid Aadhar card can transact with any other Aadhar holder. At the same time, we do not need to take and store idendity and Address proof of each individual. With Aadhar Authentication system, the dual goal of protecting user's idendity and authenticating them can done. This process will also solve the RBI's caution wherein the Users will not deal with anonymous parties. well you have a competitor https://www.bitquick.in/ who can operate in the country without any interference, they dont even need you to signup or give out any details, every thing is done through emails. i would suggest you to use the pan cards for Auth. and the KYC document requirement and store it with you. let the users do the transactions with the banking details. access to the Aadhar system may take a longer time.
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@subvolatil did u check my post ?
Yes i did, but it was hard to understand what it wanted to achieve. could you explain that to me more. Bitcoin Ads :- 1. 100bit.co.in - Accepting Bitcoin Ads for 10 years against 1 BTC yeh i saw that, but the question is why would any one pay 1btc for a website full of ads? What utility is this site providing? Because a lot of people will be introduced to Bitcoin through blog award initiative arranged by this website and hopefully at some point of time it may get media attention as well, but price per block wont be 1 BTC for 10 year then. ok if i am a business what value would i have buying the block for 10 years from you? i would like to understand this in terms of the buyer. All the following are stated assuming 100bit.co.in will NOT be a hit like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Million_Dollar_Homepage :- 1. It shows to your customers that in an uncertain world of Bitcoin you aim to stay for 10 years. (You may mention this listing in your own business website.) 2. In coming 10 years millions of Bitcoin newbies will go through www.100bit.co.in because established bloggers will be covering it for Bitcoin. So your business will get an exposure to those Bitcoin first timers. 3. You get a permanent backlink to your Bitcoin related website for 10 years from the homepage of a Bitcoin site. (SEO value) By the way, do u really run a Bitcoin business/service ? well for some reason i am skeptical but all the best for you. i would start listing your service once i start seeing a few of you blocks purchased by real businesses. till then i would suggest start selling your block so a few businesses. I will keep checking the websites for new updates. hope you are fine with that.
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i would ask them to fill in their btc address or the say last 10 digits of it when they are signing up for your service a btc address or even a partial one is not invading their privacy or putting them at any risk thats a simple solution to know who paid and who didnt pay when the payments arrive at your wallet I'm not bothered about payment here. I'm bothered about tracing identity or say linking details with their wallet address.Well, this is something that Bitcoin community won't like me to do. I'm just a dreamer. Jhon Lenon- ....They may say, I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one.... *Music*Well when it comes to the bitcoin community every idea is accepted. Open discussion is how bitcoin came into existence. you want to track identity. of a visitor in your website. right? Now tell me what all info will you ask from the user. and if the user will don any transaction in your website? Email/Name/Mobile is sufficient for me, but to distract them I'll be asking some more. I'm working on concept here. Nothing else! And no transaction will be done on website. Well in that case you will have to use a tracking cookie. but that wont help much unless the user does a transaction on a website. besides a straightforward asking for the bitcoin address. the only other way to get the address would be termed illegal and breach of user privacy So in short a transaction should be made, may be on a second website that can recognize the cookie form the first website you filled the details in . (this too is a fine line between privacy and breaking the law) The other ways are illegal and will not be talked about.
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i would ask them to fill in their btc address or the say last 10 digits of it when they are signing up for your service a btc address or even a partial one is not invading their privacy or putting them at any risk thats a simple solution to know who paid and who didnt pay when the payments arrive at your wallet I'm not bothered about payment here. I'm bothered about tracing identity or say linking details with their wallet address.Well, this is something that Bitcoin community won't like me to do. I'm just a dreamer. Jhon Lenon- ....They may say, I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one.... *Music*Well when it comes to the bitcoin community every idea is accepted. Open discussion is how bitcoin came into existence. you want to track identity. of a visitor in your website. right? Now tell me what all info will you ask from the user. and if the user will don any transaction in your website?
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@subvolatil did u check my post ?
Yes i did, but it was hard to understand what it wanted to achieve. could you explain that to me more. Bitcoin Ads :- 1. 100bit.co.in - Accepting Bitcoin Ads for 10 years against 1 BTC yeh i saw that, but the question is why would any one pay 1btc for a website full of ads? What utility is this site providing? Because a lot of people will be introduced to Bitcoin through blog award initiative arranged by this website and hopefully at some point of time it may get media attention as well, but price per block wont be 1 BTC for 10 year then. ok if i am a business what value would i have buying the block for 10 years from you? i would like to understand this in terms of the buyer.
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Don't Panic Stay Calm! Ok people dont panic, That was only a Press release to state what could be the dangers to the consumers on using bitcoin. When they said No regulatory approvals, registration or authorization is stated to have been obtained by the entities concerned for carrying on such activities. It is a typical post war thinking of the license Raj. Bitcoin Exchanges do not require licences to run, if that happens legitimate business will have to close down shutters and then the underground black market run by criminals will thrive. What would be done is, participation by every exchanges to provide KYC documents and provide active assistance to law enforcement agency to track down potential criminals. The last point made in the press release that makes every one step back is There have been several media reports of the usage of VCs, including Bitcoins, for illicit and illegal activities in several jurisdictions. The absence of information of counterparties in such peer-to-peer anonymous/ pseudonymous systems could subject the users to unintentional breaches of anti-money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism (AML/CFT) laws. the problem is that law abiding citizens are the one backing down, the criminals can still get hold of bitcoin through many other channels. But, the main point i want to make here is that Bitcoins are not anonymous. every transaction is recorded forever. the easiest way to track down money laundering and criminal activities to by have exchanges follow Proper KYC and anti-money laundering protocols. Exchanges are the point where bitcoins can be protected from criminal elements. you remove exchanges then back alley transaction will start taking place. and if that happens then good luck tracking down the "Money Launderers" systems could subject the users to unintentional breaches of anti-money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism This point implies to users of bitcoins, which is valid. For businesses as long as they have proper paperwork of their users then they are fine. Edit: The Reserve Bank has mentioned that it has been looking at the developments relating to certain electronic records claimed to be “Decentralised Digital Currency” or “Virtual Currency” (VCs), such as, Bitcoins, litecoins, bbqcoins, dogecoins etc., their usage or trading in the country and the various media reports in this regard. Bitcoin is not in any way a Virtual currency "VC", or a “Decentralised Digital Currency”, Damit it is a Cryptocurrency.dogecoins Are you kidding me? ? p.s - INRBTC as long as you are not dealing with INR directly you are ok to run.
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Will RBI come up with something within a month after reading that few sites have suspended their services from various newspaper or like Lokpal bill this will be pushed too...
Let's explain Bitcoin to Mr. Arvind Kejriwal. He might help us out. If you can get across to him, I do believe that might really understand. I was reading that he is working on a lot of decentralization projects and this might fit into some of his plans. Now, he's honorable Chief Minter and has electricity and water to be worried about. I'm not sure..But, I'll try to explain the storm in making whenever, I plan Delhi next time. Bhagwan ki mummy ki kasam! Let me see if i can get hold of him. will see if i can meet them this week or early next month. Best wishes! Make sure, you stay perfectly neutral during explanation rather then pushing him into.. Bitcoin is revolution, Bitcoin is going to change the future, Bitcoin is future of payment etc etc Initial thoughts acts as seed of thoughts for further analysis. I'd suggest be to very careful while injecting him into Bitcoin philosophy. Please!Sure i will keep that mind, and will explain the idea behind Crypto-currency.
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@subvolatil did u check my post ?
Yes i did, but it was hard to understand what it wanted to achieve. could you explain that to me more. Bitcoin Ads :- 1. 100bit.co.in - Accepting Bitcoin Ads for 10 years against 1 BTC yeh i saw that, but the question is why would any one pay 1btc for a website full of ads? What utility is this site providing?
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Well, even the RBI have mentioned them ... I was quite surprised to see month old currency gaining attention from RBI. Is Dogecoin working with publicity publicity like Bitcoin? That's ckz they dont know better. Freaking Dogecoin was a joke started by a advertisement company in Australia. them mentioning Dogecoin only shows that they scrolled through recent news articles and wrote there press release.
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Yeh they are something like INRBTC, escrow based. Based out of India the RBI ruling does not effect them , Infact it should not effect INRBTC as they dont directly transact in INR. INRBTC should be ok to start business as they dont deal anything in BTC
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Will RBI come up with something within a month after reading that few sites have suspended their services from various newspaper or like Lokpal bill this will be pushed too...
Let's explain Bitcoin to Mr. Arvind Kejriwal. He might help us out. If you can get across to him, I do believe that might really understand. I was reading that he is working on a lot of decentralization projects and this might fit into some of his plans. Now, he's honorable Chief Minter and has electricity and water to be worried about. I'm not sure..But, I'll try to explain the storm in making whenever, I plan Delhi next time. Bhagwan ki mummy ki kasam! Let me see if i can get hold of him. will see if i can meet them this week or early next month.
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@subvolatil did u check my post ?
Yes i did, but it was hard to understand what it wanted to achieve. could you explain that to me more.
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The creation, trading or usage of VCs including Bitcoins, as a medium for payment are not authorised by any central bank or monetary authority. No regulatory approvals, registration or authorisation is stated to have been obtained by the entities concerned for carrying on such activities. As such, they may pose several risks to their users, including the following: The part not authorised by any central bank or monetary authority Which states that no country around the world has authorized it . it does not imply the RBI saying they need to authorize it. As such, they may pose several risks to their users, including the following: Which states the dangers for users, using bitcoin. breaches of anti-money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism (AML/CFT) laws. Can be easily resolved by exchanges by implementing the KYC norms. the exchanges do not send money abroad so money laundering can be a problem unless KYC has not been maintained. CFT laws details Exchanges can also work closely with The Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU)
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Hi Sidjorn,
We have not shutdown our operations. We are just taking further legal advise. We will resume soon.
Regards
This comes as a huge surprise. Firstly isnt it just an advisory?? Secondly the most dangerous part of the notice was the funding terrorism part, everyone is pretty aware about BTC can and will be misused so why suspend operations now?? Give it some time. this will be resolved. The authorities and the regulators need to understand that if they rule against bitcoin it would go underground and would be much more dangerous. Exchanges can ensure money laundering and terrorist cant use bitcoin's for their use. Bitcoin records every transaction and can be used to track users properly. In a fact bitcoin is a better system to ensure money laundering does not happen.
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