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441  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 16, 2014, 07:18:28 PM
Actually it's OK to have 100% state-owned heavy industry sector while keeping private ownership for light industry, agriculture, house holding, etc. This system worked well until it was abolished by Stalin's decree in 1928.

You haven't learned much from history, have you? Socialsm will slowly bring in corruption, misallocation of resources and demise of productivity. It has always been like that, no exception - this is human nature.
442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2014, 10:39:01 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

To $465? Lol

Don't forget your space suit for tommorow when you wake up.
443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 10, 2014, 10:24:36 PM

When were they independent? They were service a nasty local dictator (who actually was a Putin puppet btw.)


And yet people chose him. What can you do? According to wiki presidential elections were OK.

I think the main problem with Ukraine is too much power in the hands of politicians (as everywhere), which goes very well with rampant corruption in poor countries. I guess main issues is their constitution, that allows this concentration of power - good luck changing this with the very same politicians and the same voters, because of this significant constitutional changes occurs only after real revolutions or after wars.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.9.1, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *55 Merchants on: May 10, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
MintCoin has been maintained for a long time at low prices.Is there any hope to rise?

Of course, but you have to buy.
445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 09, 2014, 03:41:56 PM
I really don't get it.

When it comes to people getting drunk or car pics or pics of their girlfriend everyone takes some crystal clear photos (even if in motion).

When it comes to important things , witnesses etc , you get some blurry pics or videos.

Haha, so true. Here are some video from today: http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Mariupol%27
446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 08, 2014, 09:12:16 PM
Stalinist, please stop quoting Pagan. We have him on ignore.

But since he mentioned it, what he is referring to is today's military drills to repel possible nuclear attack.
http://rt.com/news/157644-putin-drills-rocket-launch/

Quote
"At the Priozersk training area (Kazakhstan), a successful interception of a ballistic target by a short-range countermissile was carried out. A massive rocket nuclear strike was repelled by a ballistic missile defense unit of air and missile defense troops," the representative said.

It's a demonstration of what Russian rocket shield can do against NATO rockets stationed in Eastern Europe.

And on this note.
Russia holds drills by running simulations on its territory.
USA holds drills by attacking other sovereign countries.

Russia decided to blow-up the money first intended to be given to Ukraine. Always good to see how "responsible" the taxpayer's money is being used - at least they made a video.  Grin
447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 08, 2014, 04:41:35 PM

prominent businessman." In that same speech, Biden said "Democracy and free markets work best when they deliver what people most want."

Sure enough, Jaguars and Porsches are probably what some people "most want." Now thanks to U.S. taxpayer backing, some Ukrainians have them!


This bussines and money is probably just cover up for funding some CIA operations in Ukraine.
448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 08, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
Yeah yeah , I know that piece of crap propaganda .. I lived in an ex commie country..
You had a lot of money but no heat in your crappy apartment no hot water nothing to buy from the market , I had to stay in line from 4 am to wait fro the 7 am milk truck and only the lucky one got they 1l ratio , everything was on ratios.. and we lived better than anyone on the planet...
Commie propaganda doing it's worse

Which part is "commie propaganda" exactly? Milk? Dude you got MILK, i mean fresh milk, that is why it was brought to you in the morning. Today you can by no milk at all, just some white colored substance that tastes a bit like a milk bit is not milk. And its utter lie that you could had only 1L of it. In fact fresh milk in USSR was given for free to pregnant and lactating women at special milk shops.
You have free education didn`t you? And guaranteed employment after.
Your house was given to you for free, no loans, no decades of savings to buy it.
You had free medical services, my mother for example had laser eye surgery in 1983, my uncle had femoral neck prothesis for free in 1987, grandmother had 3 kidney surgeries and 1 heart surgery for free, even dentists was all free.
You had vacation services, i`m sure if you grew up in some "commie country" you had it. In USSR of 1986 alone over 18 million children visited resort for no payments from their parents and so on. Heat was everywhere always, same as hot and cold water. Of cource there could be some emergency accidents but they are everywhere. Simple demographics of so called "ex-communist" countries in last 100 years proves my points.

I really wonder do you even know the definition of Communism in the first place, let alone Socialism?

Start educating yourself, you are danger to humanity!

I wonder how do you believe all this crap and yet you come to btc forum. Do you know what btc is? I guess not.
449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: May 08, 2014, 01:16:57 PM

bullish divergence?

[ ] yes

[ ] no


According to this it is hidden bearish div.

450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 08, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Mercenary with US citizenship, John Christensen is detained in Slavyansk by the Donetsk People's Army:




Piece of propaganda?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sloviansk
Wiki says he was part of international military observervers, he was released together with the rest OSCE mission.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=668_1399131016
Watch from 9:35, he says something in russian or ukrainian? Clearly not this guy.
451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: May 07, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
Just for some perspective, let's compare the Maidan Protests to the Pro-Russian separatist protests.

MaidanPro-Russian Protests
GoalsTo free the country from a dictator-like corrupt government, and to integrate with the much more democratic countries of Europe, while maintaining government independence.Full or partial occupation of their own country by a foreign, dictatorial, corrupt regime, and be swallowed up by an antidemocratic country with a total loss of their region's independence
MethodsDuring the course of the first months, strict non-violence, despite the use of force, even to the point of torture and killings, by the ruling force. Only after the ruling party broke promises on multiple occasions, and continued to use violent force against the protesters, did the protesters became violent themselves. Still, their main weapons were sticks and molotov cocktails. Firearms were almost entirely absent. Treatment of captured prisoners, though strict, was still mostly fair.Use of violence from the very beginning, including capture of administrative buildings, law enforcement offices, military facilities, seizure of military weaponry (including machine guns and grenade launchers), and distribution of weapons to supporters. Murder, torture, violent beatings of unarmed protesters, capture of hostages, use of women and children as human shields, and abuse of captured prisoners.
The role of foreign allied countriesVerbal support - much later economic sanctions. Everything is done in the open.Strategic and violent. Military occupation and annexation of Crimea using the already available and moved-in foreign troops, capture of buildings and objectives by foreign special forces, sending spies and saboteurs deeper into the country, and concentration of troops on the borders. All this done while hypocritically denying supplies to the rebels and army intelligence services of the country they claim to support.
National IdeologyUnity of the Ukrainian nation, including all ethnic groups and regions of Ukraine; absence of hatred and ethnic discrimination.Splitting the nation and the state, hatred of all things Ukrainian, European, and American. Russian fascism and anti-Semitism.
The Language IssueOfficial government language is Ukrainian, but no one objects to speaking in Russian. Russian language was frequently heard on Maidan. There is not a single case of abuse or violence against someone, just because they are speaking Russian.Hatred and contempt for the Ukrainian language, lack of recognition of it as a "real language," unwillingness to hear or learn any language other than Russian.
OrganizationSelf-organization from below; official policies more hurt than help; proven that massive cases of payoffs by special interests were not happening.Protests inspired by a foreign state; bystanders playing the role of pawns, extras, or human shields, governed by coordinators and fighters sent from abroad. There are numerous cases of people being paid off to act (although there are plenty of actors working for ideological reasons)
Support of the population (based on surveys)More than half of the whole country.12% in the wole countr. Maximum support of 33% in Donetsk oblast, and 41% in Crimea (when questioned before the current occupation).
Intellectual, cultural, and creative levelIn general, high. On Maidan there was its own library, art exhibitions, lecture readings, comedy skits, musicians, poets, etc. Hig creativity, with many ingenious slogans and posters, and ingenuity in combat conditions (catapults and fire barricades).In general, low. Zero creativity, no own ideas, barricade tactics copied from Maidan. Many participants apparently with a criminal past.
AtmosphereIn general positive and polite, often even in relation to opponents.Generally vicious and aggressive, with constant cursing, threats, and physical aggression.
Behavior in captured buildingsMaintaining order, attempt to minimize possible damage.Vandalism and looting; piles of garbage.
AlcoholProhibited.Actively used. Also cases of drug use.
PropagandaMostly truthful, except for the inevitable in a revolutionary situation, with regards to unverified rumors.Almost entirely false, with the lies generated with all the might of a foreign state propaganda machine.
Attitude towards Soviet regimeNegative.Positive.


Lol, and why would you want to keep them under your control? I am being serious!

You don't like them, you think they are impolite, drunkers, idiots, robbers, violent, lower class, uneducated, lack of cognitive functions. Pretty much you would only like to see them as far away as possible. You don't feel any cultural connection with them, for you they are like monkeys in the jungle. I am not suprised they want away from Ukraine ASAP.
452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 07, 2014, 06:22:28 AM
in Odessa all was the beginning as pro-Russian separatist opened fire on the city streets in the Ukrainian people


And then they ran out of ammunition and got killed? Why so little deaths on the other side? What about the girls that were prepraring molotovs before the protests started?

I hope you see why your story is broken. Facts and timeline just don't add up.
453  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: May 05, 2014, 07:25:27 PM
Marketing is the absolutely last thing bitcoin needs. 

Who is going to look at a market that is almost entirely speculation, and say "you know what this needs?  MORE HYPE!"

Bitcoin is so far behind where people expect it to get to, there's no need for it to get further behind by raising more people's expectations.

I believe bitcoin will eventually deliver, but with things like Trezor being delayed indefinitely, it's not going to happen tomorrow.

+1

Bitcoin needs time to adjust. We had huge gains in the past year and now new services will emerge, because of this, but this takes time. VC poured a lot of money to new companies last year and they were only ideas in the head of enthusiasts, now it's time for engineers to work and deliver new services and make BTC user friendly. Unfortunately you cannot force this to happen.
454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 04, 2014, 10:19:54 AM
@Pagan

What are your thoughts on this video? Why?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=668_1399131016

It's cheap ruSSian lie. The same pattern as about my country.

Can you be a little more specific, what exactly is a lie?

Of course. Can you read in russisch?


I understand russian.
455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 04, 2014, 09:13:59 AM
@Pagan

What are your thoughts on this video? Why?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=668_1399131016

It's cheap ruSSian lie. The same pattern as about my country.

Can you be a little more specific, what exactly is a lie?
456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 04, 2014, 06:57:31 AM
@Pagan

What are your thoughts on this video? Why?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=668_1399131016
457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: May 02, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
After the heavy fighting around Slavyansk, this bloody day may be the day when the war starts. Or -hopefully- a final wake up call to all sides to stop with this madness, put their weapons aside and start talking. Seriously.

It is too late, Ukrainians and Russian are now enemies in the same country. Smart Russians will fled to eastern parts and smart Ukrainians to western parts - this is situation when you have to choose sides, you are forced to do this by the majority. This is Yugoslavia all over again.
458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 27, 2014, 07:58:48 AM
You can't make this up (wiki): "Yatsenyuk is popularly known by the nickname "The Rabbit" because of his resemblance to the eponymous character in the Soviet adaptation of the Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon."  Smiley



WTF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IADMGxZiSA#t=11

459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 24, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
Lol, leaflets from the sky...

pro-Ukraine leaflets warning “Don’t come near govt buildings.”

What? Are they going to bomb the government buildings? If something like that happens, then Putin will be forced to send his troops to teh Donbass, even if he doesn't wants to do that.

I don't think so, but during the night might happen quick attack with special forces. On the other hand we don't know what instructions were passed by McCain and CIA to the Kiev, they sure wan't war with Russia.
460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 19, 2014, 10:48:18 AM
The EU / US media is propping up the name of Yulia Tymoshenko, as she is more loyal to the NATO than anyone else.  

I wouldn't say loyal, maybe easily bought. They know from the past that she can change her mind for the right price.
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