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What miners are you using to make up the 10TH? Some are much better then others, some run very hot.
AC is normally expensive to do to cool down. But if your electricity really is that cheap and you have AC going this is going to be a big help dending on the AC unit. How I made it through summer with around 14k watts worth of gear was trial/error. I basically kept adding more CFM's of fan's and eventually a nice exhust fan.
But i know there are some who have equations on it that supposedly work.
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with my settings on the page back, with volts at 830; and the old cgminer (yes, its what works, and I dont want to go through the rigamarole to compile in windows; yes lazy)...
I am seeing A:54000 R:0 HW:5
Thats an ok HW rate to me (about 1 hour uptime). It normally wants a replug once every other day. sometimes goes a week without touching it.
This is on a 2.5A power supply that it shipped with.
The average hashrate is 62.24GH right now.
I have the diff set at 1K because it mines to a solo account.
The math as far as power consumption and settings doesnt make sense.... It defies logic. it should be having trouble doing its job; that's for sure. I wonder what my oscilloscope will show me once I finally bring it home.
aside from thinking the harmonics of the power draw keeping the device charged with just enough juice to stay stable.... its a strange thought.
I do have a little bit of active cooling on it, but presently, its minimal. I also replaced the thermal grease with dialectic grease last time I took it apart to clean it.
One thing I would suggest is to keep an eye on the power brick that they came with. There has been a few post's about them melting! If you use the normal common settings you should have no worry about melting power supplies. Its when you overclock you run into problems. I have had my 3 U3's running for 4 months now and my only worry is the power supply is cold, which means it's silently zombied and isn't hashing. I would be very curious to see a scope of the power consumption circuit. I am still using the default bricks that came with the unit as nothing I've heard suggested they are more stable with a better supply, and a 25A PSU isn't cheap. I thought of going the route of the computer supply and using the PCIe power connections but again, I haven't seen anyone here confirm that its more stable. Earlier someone posted in this thread about the usb and power circuits being shared and I can validate this somewhat as I can run the U3's without the 12v connection but they don't mine, I assume the usb port is not sufficient to power it up properly and when the unit silently zombies I suspect the usb port is getting flaky power. Resetting it and the port starts communicating again. I've tried software based resets but this does not seem to work. I've tried shutting off the miners but as long as they stay connected via USB, they won't recover until that usb cable is pulled and plugged back in. Perhaps a smart robot who can watch these all day is the solution  Honestly there already is a smart robot to do this... it's Crazy Guy's modified R1. I can run 3 off of it and it fixes the zombies. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612390.0I also am running with the cheap power bricks that came with them. So nothing fancy there. Just a modified R1 and my daily resets of me doing it went away which as a lotto device is really nice not to have to do. |
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Here we go again with The Smart miner does it even exist ? . Sorry couldn't resist the temptation to Joke ? . Price even went up it looks like lol . Show us there is one .
I saw a add one time on one of the mining pools that has it own exchange and store. the guy there tiring to sell it said he would even help you finance it, all you needed was a Credit Score of 670 or so . I LMAO for a few hours, that made my day, i sure hope no one feel for it, He, Polly, wanted some kind of down payment to start the finance sense it was a service hes was offering, once he got it, you never heard from him again .
It obviously is not a real miner. They have some sort of server box sitting there claiming to be 20TH monster. I mean look at 20TH power.... where are all the PSU's? Simple stuff does not add up. I hope anyone who thought about ordering would search it here. But it's sad if they get 1 sale they can keep up a scam site like that for a LONG time. If no one ordered at least they would lose money running it. But it's sad always seems to be a few who said they tried it. |
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Get your shit together bitmain. Also put out a miner with very low sound level, like the s3 for example. people will buy it even if its less efficient and more expensive
I think the day's of the small miners are in the past. Like it or not the redesign showed even when they go smaller it's still a big machine. I do not think the home miner day's will quite be the same as the past. I think it's going to move to what I call "hobby miners" with areas and proper wiring, cooling, etc. Sure some will be able to put in and about max out a circuit but really designing for home day's is over. you never know with these smaller low power nanometer low power chips. I'm not sure about that. Look at all the hardware being sold right now and see how most are going twords more you can fit in the box of speed, the better. Find one that shows lower even at lower NM. I mean B-12 I think it is could be the first consumer lower NM. And all their terrahash look big as well. So I would not count on S3 type miners. |
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Solar cells degrade over time though - but IIRC they commonly don't lose more than a couple percent of their capasity a year.
20 years seems to be a common "write-off" timeframe for them, but that might be fueled in part by increasing efficiency as the technology gets better.
That seems pretty bad are they still usable after 20 years? With such a investment long term I would really want to milk them for as long as possible. If they lose a few percent per year that sounds not so good on a already long term investment. I still think cheap electricity will always win out. Does not matter what it's up against. |
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Weren't they talking about "by December" or "by end of December" for when they planned on the miners being available / hashing starting?
Yes that is correct, here is the official line, which has not changed. According to the arrangement of our work, Jan 1st is our planned date, however, due to a unforeseen issues final production of the chips and machines could be delayed. In this case BW would return the principal money to the investors, if the investors agree to wait for stage 2, it will be counted as stage 1, the delay of the stage 2 won’t change the profit date. They however provide no updates on progress, and we have still only seen the original renderings with accompanying outline very incomplete spec. Rich It has not changed and it's a month away.... so I would brace for possibility of being late. Although all the hash sales should have provided a huge infusion of cash if that is what they needed to get it finished. I just don't like being this close and not seeing a prototype or some review. I like seeing something besides renderings when it gets close. |
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Going up a little bit:
Bitcoin Difficulty: 62,253,982,450
Estimated Next Difficulty: 64,938,500,384 (+4.31%)
Adjust time: After 122 Blocks, About 19.8 hours
Hashrate(?): 450,174,795 GH/s
Today is the 10th so I keep expecting to see a lot of Avalon hash added, but so far not near what I was expecting. I mean Mr. Lee was getting like 3 PH he announced, but I have not heard about sales yet in thread so I'm wondering if they are a little behind on shipping or making.j
Price is still better then the 230 but taking a little bit of a dive to 359.75 on coinbase so around 20 dollars down.
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Be carefull with the U3, it has quite a large "zombie" problem... If you find a way around it, or if you're lucky, the hashrate for the cost is great (especially if your power is free)
Actually it really has a pretty good fix at this point. Buy a R1 with Crazy Guy's custom firmware - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612390.0I run 3 U3's that I constantly had to deal with zombies now without hardly any effort. It ran for 5 day's without any issues. I am now testing again to see new number but his custom firmware is amazing programming on fixing zombies. BUt can you actually explain me what the zombie problem is? Its first time i heard about it... JUst for security i canceled it until i get some more info about what that is... Thanks The miner stop's mining goes into a state it does nothing. So like a "zombie" it sit's there and does not mine. It is well known with U3's. The R1 with crazy guy's firmware really is a great fix for me at least. It's ran great with 3 U3's. That means i should have to be constantly cheking that it is actually mining no? What does the R1 does? Complete noob asking  Yes if you use it with regular computer I had tons of checking was a huge pain. The R1 is actually a lotto miner made by bitmain. Crazy Guy is a talented programmer and made custom firmware where if you purchase off him you can select to have it loaded. With it I have had to stop checking for zombies it just runs, and fixes zombies on it's own. It's amazing in my eyes. ANd when it goes into "zombie mode", what do you have to do in order to fix it? just restart it? or things more complicated? Thanks What I had to do forever was unplug USB and Power then replug in. Was using Windows 8 and cgminer. But I switched to Crazy Guy's R1 custom firmware for purchasing for him and it's able to fix automatically via software. So I don't have to touch them to fix each time. Which is great. |
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PM sent my payment was a odd amount. I would appreciate help getting it sorted out.
Thanks Macro!
Mate I don't think there is much to be sorted out. There is a limit of 150 posts so all of your posts above 150 for the last week were just cut off. Same happened to me! Cheers Was it an immediate limit of 150? Taking effect last week? I believe so. My payment got cut by the limit as well so I am sure this was the case! Shouldn't be so. He mentioned this: Payment rates have been adjusted due to the rise in price of 1 Bitcoin. New rates will apply after your next payout.
Hence, it would be the next period. Mine is still showing 0.0012BTC and beyond the post limit already. Payment is tomorrow, hope there isn't any issues. Well if you get paid 0.18 as well that means the bot was set with the 150 post limit to take immediate effect. We'll see after you get paid. Bot has cut about 80 of my posts and paid 150 instead 230. Can you please stop quoting my posts and wait for Macro?  . I posted as I did not think it was going to be immediate on limit but after. Mine took effect on this period before I thought new rules change. I'm not trying to make a huge deal out of it. Just hoping macro can fix it or say it was immediate (which it was for me). |
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PM sent my payment was a odd amount. I would appreciate help getting it sorted out.
Thanks Macro!
Mate I don't think there is much to be sorted out. There is a limit of 150 posts so all of your posts above 150 for the last week were just cut off. Same happened to me! Cheers I was in the period before it took effect I thought. I did not think it was a immediate change but changed over next period. But I could be wrong. Was it an immediate limit of 150? Taking effect last week? |
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The best option and most secure is a paper wallet.
You can make one via many websites, eg blockchain.info
Cheers
LondonTrader
Paper wallet its not best option because paper wallet susceptible to water and also easily lost.
I think better using usb stick or hardware wallet like Trezor not easily lost and more faster to use. You can easily place backups at different locations and laminate all of them for waterproofing. It is a cheap option to secure your Bitcoin. USB thumbdrives are likely more vulnerable to water damage though. Trezor is water resistent but not waterproof. It's very expensive too. Why dont you try paper wallet.They are more secure unless you live in a disaster prone area.
You can create one at blockchain for free.
I thought a seed was a paper wallet, no? Technically yes. But some seeds are only used by a specific wallet client for generation and isn't universal. Arguably, private keys are accepted by all the Bitcoin wallets. Technically the Trezor really depends on how many coins you hold. For a wallet of 1 or 2 yes very high. But if a decent sized holder it really is not horrible. And I would get the private key. With the private key you can put it in most any wallet. And really paper wallets even if laminated do not withstand fires, so I would not just keep copies in home as if something bad happens... it could burn with the home which would be horrible ontop of horrible. If you have a safety deposit box at a bank that is best spot for paper wallet. |
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one of my friend account got hacked and the hacker changed the password and email id , please tell me how to recover that account , what is the procedure to get back that account, he used the wallet address, so he cannot get signature from them.
He needs to post in meta with all the details. I suggest him starting a account just to post in meta and him to explain it. I would not try to do it as a "friend" have it come from the source. |
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Get your shit together bitmain. Also put out a miner with very low sound level, like the s3 for example. people will buy it even if its less efficient and more expensive
I think the day's of the small miners are in the past. Like it or not the redesign showed even when they go smaller it's still a big machine. I do not think the home miner day's will quite be the same as the past. I think it's going to move to what I call "hobby miners" with areas and proper wiring, cooling, etc. Sure some will be able to put in and about max out a circuit but really designing for home day's is over. |
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I would move this topic to Meta with your other account name. If it is banned then every account you make is ban evasion and yes they will get rid of accounts and posts.
Again if you tell them your original account it will make it much more clear on what's happening.
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Be carefull with the U3, it has quite a large "zombie" problem... If you find a way around it, or if you're lucky, the hashrate for the cost is great (especially if your power is free)
Actually it really has a pretty good fix at this point. Buy a R1 with Crazy Guy's custom firmware - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612390.0I run 3 U3's that I constantly had to deal with zombies now without hardly any effort. It ran for 5 day's without any issues. I am now testing again to see new number but his custom firmware is amazing programming on fixing zombies. BUt can you actually explain me what the zombie problem is? Its first time i heard about it... JUst for security i canceled it until i get some more info about what that is... Thanks The miner stop's mining goes into a state it does nothing. So like a "zombie" it sit's there and does not mine. It is well known with U3's. The R1 with crazy guy's firmware really is a great fix for me at least. It's ran great with 3 U3's. That means i should have to be constantly cheking that it is actually mining no? What does the R1 does? Complete noob asking Yes if you use it with regular computer I had tons of checking was a huge pain. The R1 is actually a lotto miner made by bitmain. Crazy Guy is a talented programmer and made custom firmware where if you purchase off him you can select to have it loaded. With it I have had to stop checking for zombies it just runs, and fixes zombies on it's own. It's amazing in my eyes. |
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Am I missing something or no new hardware showed up?  Did you miss Antminer S7 batch 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6? 4-4.8TH/s@ 1000-1200w, Also the Avalon6 at 3~ths 0.3J/GH. And the Spoondoolies SP50 that are 110TH/s units. And the B-Eleven - https://www.bw.com/pool/miner 14nm miner there... so I'm hoping good things but we don't know much yet as far as final products. There is a LOT of new gear hitting the street's and data centers right now. And with jump in price a lot of old gear got some extra life. |
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You will need some serious investment that too with free electricity to gain something very high in % on your investments with mining, as next year halving will be taking place, and so rewards will halve though, so making BTC will be much harder than it currently is...
It totally depends mostly upon what price Bitcoin will possess during halving and ahead months...
It does not necessarly take free electricity. But it does take fairly priced electricity. With 230 priced btc many of us were doing ok at mining as long as we use current gear. Jump up to 380ish.... and were doing a whole lot better. Granted it always could change that is the nature of BTC. But I do not see free as necessary, just a really big bonus. But that said by you, don't you need your complete BTC on hands to be sold at, while it jumps to 380 or above??? That's where the problem is, you have them invested in mining and you need to be lucky enough to get a genesis block which currently gives a BTC25 reward, which will be halved next year, and so I guess the mining operation earnings in BTC will also see a significant effect of the same... Actually I'm holding as I think it will go higher.... yes it's risky but I went into this as I enjoy it. I never risk more then I can lose. That being said I was profitable at 230... so I could sell at any point now and it's profit. I just want more. I had to get rid of some S4's I wish I would have kept as at 230 they were not making as much as compared to value. I sold them for a good return... so it was a win but if i would have held them another 2 months I would have returned even more. Having I don't know no one knows.... I'm talking now. Now lots of miners are profiting if you are not your are missing out or doing it wrong. |
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Hey guys, I've been reading around and it seems like hashnest is the most legitimate cloud mining company. I'm seriously thinking about dropping 1 or 2 btc on them. Probably towards their S5 GH/s. Does anyone have any experience with them? Good or bad. Does anyone have 1 or more btc invested with them in their GH/s, not their pacmic contracts? If so, how is that going? Would you recommend them to someone looking to cloudmine? Would you invest more btc with their hashrates?
Thank you guys,
Dezval
They are bitmaintech. They are as legit as anyone else if not more so in the game of BTC. I had 9.99 or 15th of pacmic3 I made .3 btc profit with that. As I type I have 1120gh in S5 I have 1 s-7 due in 8 days that will be 4860gh I have about 7btc with them maybe more like 6.6 btc as I type. Should you buy 1000gh of s-5 for about .65btc yeah why not. you have to be able to wake up and find out that it became worthless over night and not be in financial trouble. So it boils down to only invest what you can afford to lose. .65 btc is about 200 usd. No worries as far as legit I would agree. I think it will be interesting once https://www.bw.com/twelve get's gear and is up and running they sold A LOT of hash. They now have a eleven up I think but the one even sold out. Even though they should be legit I could not bring myself to invest until I see a working miner of their next gen. But a lot did invest. I suspect those might battle with hashnest a little when they have it up in big numbers. Which could be good news as far as price if we have 2 massive giants. |
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All this being said, it sounds like an S3+ wouldn't be my best investment. I don't want to invest all my savings but i figured i could really get ahead because of the free energy situation. What would you guys/gals suggest a good startup ASIC be?
where do you live? If USA 150 is a bad price for the s-3 If in a foreign country such as the UK 150 is a decent price. you have 'free' power get the s-3 then mine and hold coins. Once the s-3 is installed your costs are 0. A good s-3 running a little under clocked can last for years. Just collect the coins slowly and if price jumps to 600 usd sell some of them. mining is about threading water until a price jump happens then off load some of your coins. I think the price is going up with BTC going up. Before S3's were 100 all day long. I checked ebay and it's more 150 including shipping so it's headed up from the 100. I suspect this will be true with most miners they head up a little in price when BTC value does. |
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PM sent my payment was a odd amount. I would appreciate help getting it sorted out.
Thanks Macro!
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