It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging. seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months Hope it is good. My only concern is the memory width of only 256 bit, it might be just a little faster than 380. Not considering architectural and slightly higher CU changes between the 380 and 480 and on base clocks that 380 does 21MH/s @ 1500 mem clock, the 480 *should* run AT LEAST 28MH with its mem clock of 2000. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 30+ on it with just small OC's. That sounds amazing all for 100 watts or less ?! The big question is now with this cheap powerful card on the horizon hash rates could start to climb even faster lol and erase the gains in power since you will need more and more cards to keep pace with the already ballooning hash rate. The old bitcoin mining theory of older cards coming off as hash rate rises (which i never believed anyways since most people who use older cards have cheap or free power anyways) wont apply here since even with 17cents power eth is profitable still. People with free power will buy 390s still since they should drop in price. I hope this quashes all the rumors and innuendos that AMD and NVIDA care about mining , they really could give a flying f**k as you can see lol |
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I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months
Won't ETH be POS in a few months ? if by a few months you mean 10 months minimum yes lol on a side note i rached out to my contact in newegg buisness to try and get pricing on a preorder for 30k usd worth of 480s i really perfer the refernce cards for any amd cards i buy i have rfernce 290s i bought back in 2013 and cooked for years at 90degree temps gamed with etc that are currntly minng eth now beastly cards those rfernce amds man |
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging. seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few % etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos? at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070. We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain. The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want. |
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I'll leave other to post pics. Got mine today and so far am - happy - with it but...
A. is so far averaging just over 13THs
B. A thermal design issue raises it head with these. The middle card and the one with long finned heatsinks facing the case wall run well over 4.3-.5 THs each. They report chip temps of around 90C. The one with the short fin topsinks facing the case is giving a bit over 3THs and reports the chip temp as banging around 99-100C. The air coming out of that card is also substantially warmer than the other 2. Will measure temps tomorrow sometime.
The root problem is that the short sinks are presenting a much high airflow resistance because the flow channel is restricted by them and the case wall. If somehow move the cards over a smig, hell even 1/8" might do it, then airflow should remarkably improve.
yes short term I down clocked from 650 to 625. But UPS was late. I had to dissemble the avalon6s from the array. My sprained ankle from 65 days ago still hurts. ( bitch to be 59 it would have healed in under 10 days when I was 25-30) The mining gear is in a loft with a ladder. First time I turned them on I climbed down the ladder knowing they were mining for bitmaintech. So we went to the pc to check them and setup kano.is temps were very high chips in the 90's   only 2 machines and a large loft I was supposed to point miners in the direction in this photo about 70 feet and an up draft fan in the center  Baller alert , you have one of those EGO eclectic mowers how do you like it ? |
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging. seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few % etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos? at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it |
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging. seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months |
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Something tells me that right now you are better off buying a 390 and mining today rather then waiting and buying the 480 in the future even if you have high electricity costs.
depends on if you can handle the heat i had 2700 worth of hash 1300 worth was 390s but i would get alot of unstable and overheating rigs in my mining area so i sold the 390 hash and replace it with 3 rigs of nanos and now i have virtually no downtime or random events of 5 or six rigs going down my hash is only 1700 now but far more stable going forward im waiting for 480s 470 or more nanos |
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With the price bump in ether the wait for this card to get released feel like forever and then we don't even know how well it will perform.
Yes. I am thinking if I should wait another 16 days or buy some R9 390 now. I can start making money now. Depens on if you dont have a problem with the heat and power drain of the 390s if you have power under .10cents i would say buy as many 390 as you can as long as you can cool them the 390s run HOT and also the 970s as well , compared to the nanos and these newer cards which can mine at full power at 70degrees easily even in a poorly ventilated area like mine. People always worry about power use but the bigger issue is the heat, the higer the power drain of a GPU the more heat it will generate and you have to be able to counteract that somehow. also this will lead to increase in cost, because to cool down each of those rig you need additional fan that are not free, and increase the overall consumption i added industrial noctua now that we are in summer, and they are expensive yeah and fans can only do so much its curious to me that unlike the 1000 series where we had a fe in the wild two weeks before luanch we have not a single review on a 480 or 480x is the card gonq be delayed ? i stopped most of my card buys (nanos) waiting for the 480 benchmarks which i really regret no with th craZy price spike these last days waitinv for news on the 480 |
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I think mining ethereum still profitable and many miners still choosesn ethereum to mine. if you have a good rig to mine ethereum better to buy the best GPU 4gb in up to make more ethereum fast..before ethereum will explode to increase the value this coming block halving..
There is no block halving in Ethereum... true but it is traded against BTC thus ethereum price will be halved as well It does not work that way. If the bitcoin price doubles, everything else priced in bitcoin will be halved. But the price in US dollar is the same. you can make more money now than when bitcoin was at 500, because the value of etheruem is still there, not counting the pump to 0.03 Mining Ethereum is still very profitable as its price has risen in dollar terms. As long as your cost in in fiat, it is OK to mine. I thought the Ethereum price could crash after the DAO listing, but it is still very strong. I will mine at again. 1 thing I learnt here is to completly ignore the altcoin discussion.... Yup same here i only read it for entertainment purposes and to find out the new item thats being pumped I found out about waves out there and ill probbaly make a killing with the 5btc worth i bought other than that i ignore most of the spam out there |
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With the price bump in ether the wait for this card to get released feel like forever and then we don't even know how well it will perform.
Yes. I am thinking if I should wait another 16 days or buy some R9 390 now. I can start making money now. Depens on if you dont have a problem with the heat and power drain of the 390s if you have power under .10cents i would say buy as many 390 as you can as long as you can cool them the 390s run HOT and also the 970s as well , compared to the nanos and these newer cards which can mine at full power at 70degrees easily even in a poorly ventilated area like mine. People always worry about power use but the bigger issue is the heat, the higer the power drain of a GPU the more heat it will generate and you have to be able to counteract that somehow. |
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waves now in my wallet  when start wave trading tomorrow? My waves shows in the wallet but it still says Incoming payment at the bottom and i still see my wave balance on the ICO page will i be able to withdraw ? |
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got my 20k waves in the wallet what exchanges can we send them to on the 14th and what time will the exchanges be getting the source code ?
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power consumption of nvidia 10*0 cards are not that great either:  Measured Power Consumption
Mind you, the system wattage is measured at the wall socket side and there are other variables like PSU power efficiency. So this is an estimated value, albeit a very good one. Below, a chart of relative power consumption. Again, the Wattage shown is the card with the GPU(s) stressed 100%, showing only the peak GPU power draw, not the power consumption of the entire PC and not the average gaming power consumption. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,8.htmlthat is when gaming, and that is without 60% tdp reduction here in mining we don't need the full tdp to mine comfortably The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for 26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr for and aditional 45 watts no it's not the same as nano, nano can only do 22 at 80w, 27(not 26) at 90 is much better 22.7% more hash with only 12.5% more consumption wrong again the nano does 23.6 eth and 1200 dcr fr 140 watts with the claymore miner the 1070 costs nearly the same as a nano and is only a bit better most smart miners will be waiting for the 480 since it costs half the price of both of them |
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try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is
at +100 and +150 at 110w it is 28mhs at 90w - 27mh ill probably buy one to test temps 65 deg in my basement would be nice but i expect in a rack it would be much warmer the intersting thing is a r10 480 might do 26mhs at 100 watt too and with bios mods which they dont seem to be for nvidia it could possibly be as low as 50 watts combined with the afterbuner undervolt could be insane |
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The nanos will have to drop in price or they will stop selling. Who is going to buy a $450 nano over a $199 480 or a $379 1070? Ive already seen brand new 390s drop to $259 on newegg now and ive been watching the prices of 390s daily since april
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919cheapest 1070 is $419 i doubt they will be sold for msp in 2016 maybe in a few months $420 for 26mhs at 90 watts is basically the same as a nano the diffrnce being the nano also produces 1200 dcr for and aditional 45 watts |
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Heliox - just to update that I managed to get the -175mV working on the new batch of Nanos.
I have not got all 6 cards in a complete setup yet, but testing on 1 card is a success.
I will run it overnight before flashing the other cards.
I will report the kill-lo-watt meter readings tomorrow morning.
As of now, with -175mV rom:
-6mV,1040/300 = 30.3MHs at fans= fix 60%, temps 67-68c
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stock -175mV,800/300 = 22.4MHs, temps 62-63c, auto fans
I am tempted to try the -200mV rom.
Is it normal that some rigs will have 150 roms and some 175 roms, mixed configs in your environment?
how do you guys mnaage to raise the core on the modded rom cards ? i have several -175 six card rigs and th seccnd i change to core from 800 to even 950 the box crashes In Windows, you can use the MSI afterburner to raise/reduce the core voltage. The memory voltage is not changeable. Read my post i said i tried that and it box crashes whenever i change the core from the 800 to anything higer windows 10, even with a clean install same thing happens. Hi Marvell, I had exactly the same problem. Reason is that some of your nanos cannot cope with -175mv while some can. I had 6 nanos shipped from Amazon and I made the mistake that I applied the same rom to ALL of them. However, each card is different. I even was very unlucky, and had one card that even cannot cope with a -100mv mem voltage! Hence my rig always crashed when increasing the core speed. Unfortunately I also used this gpu when I only tested with one nano... Therefore my recommendation: - Test each nano separately and see what mem voltage it does not crash with when you increase the core speed and start the mining I had the following results: GPU 1: -100core/-75mem: -100mem lets the system crash. Currently I manually reduce the core clock to -100 (there is only one -75/-75 rom here) GPU 2: -175 mem GPU 3: -175 mem GPU 4: -150 mem GPU 5: -70core/ -150 mem: Claymore's miner shows a lot of invalid shares for this gpu. I increased the core clock and now it's better though there are still some invalid shares from time to time GPU 6: Dead - getting replacement Some other issues: when running headless, max 640x480 resolution when using vnc. Had to purchase a dummy plug. Now it works. I'm thinking of reducing further the core clocks (except GPU5), but first I want to run this rig for some days to see its stability. Hope this helps! And Helios, great job! Looking forward to your other roms. Cheers, Talan thanks fr the info all my nanos are the xfx cards excet fr a few asus and saphire here and there what youre saying makes sense all the nanos run the 175 mod fine as lng as i dont touch the clocks and the further accet anther -12 mv undervolt all this is fine right now for the summer 23.6 mhs eth and 1200 dcr at 130 watts at summer elecrtic prices works well for me in the winter when its cooler and electrcity is cheaper ill take your advice and figure out what mod i can use that wil alowe for higer core clocks |
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You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140.
Nanos are nowhere near "about the same specs as an R9 290x" - more shaders, MUCH lower power usage, more RAM, much wider memory and higher memory bandwidth. I don't anticipate the RX 480 having a noticeable effect on their pricing - perhaps when an RX 490 comes out THAT might affect Nano pricing noticeably. From the specs I've seen to date on the RX 480, it is NOT in the same class as a Nano overall - somewhere between half and 3/4ths of the performance, mostly due to the higher clock rate and despite having about half the cores.... thats what im trying to tell them yes the 480 has newer tech and a newer fab process but the nano is basically the flagship of the current gen amd cards https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/37.htmlmsrp on the nano is actully $649 so its already at a 20% discount already and with 4k shaders i dnt see how it wil drop below 400 i grabed six for 480 this week |
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You have to wait two more weeks. Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane. I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card  If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months  If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash. yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140. youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year. Already are used http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-R9-Nano-4gb-/231973906748?hash=item3602b8e93c:g:gJwAAOSwuhhXWBJ0The nano will be replaced by gamers with r480x if they have HBM, they can small form factor the 480  The fan already makes the card much larger. you notice no one is biting on that card probably a refurb no other cards are that low |
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You have to wait two more weeks. Too bad the demand is going to go through the roof, with miners and tons of gamers wanting this gpu I can see what happened with the R9 200 series and prices. Expect a 100$ bump on these cards when demand is insane. I see a lot of hype for that card and I'm not surprised. But with the demand already rising through the roof, I think many people will buy them not for mining and gaming, but just to put them on sale for 100$+ to make a profit of the miners and gamers, that will actually use the card If the performance justify the expectations, I'm pretty sure those who get the card for 200$ will be the lucky ones - the others will, be paying more for it in the next months If the RX 480 price is higher than the R 390, by a big margin, I will buy the R9 390 instead if it has more hash. yes and you will likely consume 50-100% more, no tnx i'll stick in waiting new gen card, also i don't want to be stuck with ancient technology that in the future no one want anymore You are dead on 50-100%, a nano is about the same specs as and r9 290x and that's what I am expect the RX 480 to be, nano uses 175w , 480 ~ 100w. I may buy some nanos if they drop HARD HARD like $140. youre crazy if you think nanos will drop below 400 , either way they have an unmatched form factor and the HMB memory used to make them is crazy expensive. They will hold thier value no lower than 429 until maybe the 490x cards are released at the end of the year. |
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The AMD Nano/Fury line are all MUCH higher core count, faster clocks, faster memory, MUCH wider memory bus - and mine SLOWER than my 2-generation old R9 290s, which routinely see 30 MH and I've not pushed them as far as they CAN go (best figure I've seen for the Nano was 27).
There appears to be more than just pure "memory bandwidth" involved in how fast Ethereum can be mined by a given model of GPU.
Fury-x can do around 32mh/s on ethereum + 1700mh/s on decred simultaneaously with claymore dual miner. Nano just a little bit less (for nano http://mininghwcomparison.com/list/index.php?brand=amd) Stock clocks, or overclocked? Efficiency on the Fury/Nano is very good from everything I've seen, but still not impressive that a card with a ton more memory bandwidth and almost twice the Stream units is so poor on hashrate compared to a 2 generation old card. Is that 32Mh at stock clocks, or overclocked? So for the Fury/nano cards, is it better to dual mine so that the core processors can be utilised fullly? I foudn that dual mining lowers the eth hashrate unless you are downlocked to 800 core to save power then it makes no difference. right now i can only dual mine with the modded rom at 23.6 mhs eth and 1200 mhs of DCR for 135 or watts. eth only is still 24 mhs at 80 watts |
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