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June 15, 2016, 08:11:14 AM
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and new series RX 470 and RX 460
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3082595/components-graphics/radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460-graphics-cards-intensify-amds-affordable-gaming-push.html
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June 15, 2016, 09:19:13 AM
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When is the sale RX480 ?
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June 15, 2016, 10:33:24 AM
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If this is real popular it seems unlikely the price will remain at $200 for very long. Wonder how much supply they will have.
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June 15, 2016, 11:22:35 AM
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When is the sale RX480 ?

29.06 will be start.
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June 15, 2016, 03:12:11 PM
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The trick is to swap my aging cards out and purchase the new ones with little to none downtime.  Coins mined per day drops so much within a week now.  The energy savings hopefully will help a little.
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June 15, 2016, 03:36:57 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
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June 15, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

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June 15, 2016, 06:42:21 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
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June 15, 2016, 08:14:39 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.



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June 15, 2016, 09:53:22 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.



    That's right, I absolutely agree. Also, AMD is generally better for mining in comparison to nVIDIA so well and for mining some of the next coin.
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June 15, 2016, 10:48:32 PM
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I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months

Won't ETH be POS in a few months ?
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June 15, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
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I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months

Won't ETH be POS in a few months ?
if by a few months you mean 10 months minimum yes lol

on a side note i rached out to my contact in newegg buisness to try and get pricing on a preorder
for 30k usd worth of 480s i really perfer the refernce cards for any amd cards i buy i have rfernce 290s i bought back in 2013 and cooked for years at 90degree temps gamed with etc that are currntly minng eth now

beastly cards those rfernce amds man

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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


Hope it is good. My only concern is the memory width of only 256 bit, it might be just a little faster than 380.

Not considering architectural and slightly higher CU changes between the 380 and 480 and on base clocks that 380 does 21MH/s @ 1500 mem clock, the 480 *should* run AT LEAST 28MH  with its mem clock of  2000. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 30+ on it with just small OC's.

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June 15, 2016, 11:38:52 PM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months



Hope it is good. My only concern is the memory width of only 256 bit, it might be just a little faster than 380.

Not considering architectural and slightly higher CU changes between the 380 and 480 and on base clocks that 380 does 21MH/s @ 1500 mem clock, the 480 *should* run AT LEAST 28MH  with its mem clock of  2000. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 30+ on it with just small OC's.


That sounds amazing all for 100 watts or less ?!  The big question is now with this cheap powerful card on the horizon  hash rates could start to climb even faster lol and erase the gains in power since you will need more and more cards to keep pace with the already ballooning hash rate.  

The old bitcoin mining theory of older cards coming off as hash rate rises (which i never believed anyways since most people who use older cards have cheap or free power anyways) wont apply here since even with 17cents power eth is profitable still.

People with free power will buy 390s still since they should drop in price.

I hope this quashes all the rumors and innuendos that AMD and NVIDA care about mining , they really could give a flying f**k as you can see lol

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June 16, 2016, 02:34:25 AM
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Im not sure these cards will really cause hash rates to go up, most of hash probably belongs to those giant gpu farms and this card should produce about the same hash as the 390.  So its basically just a replacement card to reduce your electric bill and keep about the same amount of hash in your farm.  If you/them were going to expand further that likely would happen regardless of this card getting released.  The watts to hash is basically just a bonus and this will be the card everyone wants to expand on as well replace there existing gpus with. 

I think this card will be difficult to get at first with the high demand by gamers and miners alike but then again ati might have planned for that with massive shipments.  There are shipping containers filled full with the 480 as we speak sailing its way to our sea ports =P
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Lisa Su the CEO of AMD says the 470 will be 2.5x more efficient than the 370.  So 28nm footprint going to 14 nm footprint.

I know from first hand experience the R7 370 uses 125-150 watts...more if overclocked and less if downvolted via bios, etc.



For a conservative calculations lets say the r7 370 uses 150 watts.  So if the 470 is 2.5 more efficient it should only use 60 or so watts per hour and put out ~ 15mh/s

That is pretty fucking impressive, but I am skeptical.


I've reached out to AMD to review their cards...lets see what they say.





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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.




the 480 will most likely be priced higher than excepted the same is happening for the 1070, so do not expect 200 at launch at all but probably 250 or more in some country even 300

the new target price is 229 for the 480 btw.. since one 480 is equal to 970 in hashrate in any other algo and a 1070 it's already 50%(without any optimization i believe it can be pushed to 80% easily) faster than a 1070 you have already a card that is worth $400

and again i don't care about etheruem, you guys should really stop basing your argument only about etheruem when even now there is another more profitable coin
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June 16, 2016, 06:18:48 AM
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I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months

Won't ETH be POS in a few months ?
if by a few months you mean 10 months minimum yes lol

on a side note i rached out to my contact in newegg buisness to try and get pricing on a preorder
for 30k usd worth of 480s i really perfer the refernce cards for any amd cards i buy i have rfernce 290s i bought back in 2013 and cooked for years at 90degree temps gamed with etc that are currntly minng eth now

beastly cards those rfernce amds man
Hell of an order if they let you get that many, 150 gpu min if they don't give a bulk discount seems like a whole batch of cards newegg would get. Any chances of getting an order directly with AMD?
yeah i doubt they would sell that many but a few months back they were willing to sell me 20k worth of 390s
althought that card was priced at 320 at the time.

supposedly yeild rates on the asic qualities required for these mid range cards the 480 and 470 ,460 are really good at 14nm so it stands to reason this being a mainstream card there will be plenty of stock.

the 1080 ans 1070 are high end parts with higer rquired asic quality yeild chips and its well documeted that thier supplier i has been having alot of issues producing alot of high quality chips thus the card shortage

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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.




the 480 will most likely be priced higher than excepted the same is happening for the 1070, so do not expect 200 at launch at all but probably 250 or more in some country even 300

the new target price is 229 for the 480 btw.. since one 480 is equal to 970 in hashrate in any other algo and a 1070 it's already 50%(without any optimization i believe it can be pushed to 80% easily) faster than a 1070 you have already a card that is worth $400

and again i don't care about etheruem, you guys should really stop basing your argument only about etheruem when even now there is another more profitable coin
retail for a 1070 is still 449 still nearly twice the price of a single 480 and $229 is the price of the 8gb 480 which no alogos need more than 4g .
optimzation or not id rather have the amd parts right now , whose to say with optimzation they wont hash bettter on ther algos than expected either.
price per watt is king though

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June 16, 2016, 06:28:29 AM
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It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.




the 480 will most likely be priced higher than excepted the same is happening for the 1070, so do not expect 200 at launch at all but probably 250 or more in some country even 300

the new target price is 229 for the 480 btw.. since one 480 is equal to 970 in hashrate in any other algo and a 1070 it's already 50%(without any optimization i believe it can be pushed to 80% easily) faster than a 1070 you have already a card that is worth $400

and again i don't care about etheruem, you guys should really stop basing your argument only about etheruem when even now there is another more profitable coin
retail for a 1070 is still 449 still nearly twice the price of a single 480 and $229 is the price of the 8gb 480 which no alogos need more than 4g .
optimzation or not id rather have the amd parts right now , whose to say with optimzation they wont hash bettter on ther algos than expected either.
price per watt is king though

because they are equal to a 970 in gaming or slightly worse, usually this mean that they will be there in hashing

surely not on par with a 1070 in overall performance, that's why they cost only 200, if you except them to perform the same(as 1070) in any other algo minus etheruem you are wrong

a 1070 will be 50% faster on other algo, not talking about etheruem, so it's worth 400 at launch, and 350 after the price return to the right point
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