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4421  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: November 07, 2014, 12:35:44 AM
yeah hobby ... for the small timers
http://coinminernews.com/category/mining-equipment/
4422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2014, 12:15:14 AM


the unique combination of troll-feeding and bear-baiting combine into an irresistible symphony sometimes ...  Kiss
4423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: November 07, 2014, 12:12:34 AM
Why is a thread that Atlas started nearly 3 1/2 years ago still going strong?

Atlas was the Boss.
4424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 07:10:24 AM
Hoarding is simply the same as saving. Savings are what makes capitalism a viable economic model. Inflation is a stealth tax from those who have last use of new money (the poor, middle class) to the pockets of those who have first use of new money (the banks, wealthy, government).

It is not quite so simple. Standard economists worry that if inflation becomes too low (or if there is deflation), incentive to hoard increases and incentive to invest drops, which could lead to negative growth, the bête noire of capitalism.



The situation you refer to is only possible in a domain where there is an artificially enforced monopoly on the money supply, e.g. central bank, totalitarian capital controls, etc.

Free markets rapidly fill shortages of goods, monetary or otherwise, and correct mispricing.
4425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:07:51 AM
Well he is definitely trolling now, of course, I'm just wondering if he's always trolling or just trying his hand at it for a bit.

Think of it like the journey of Anakin Skywalker, way back, starting off with an open mind, but soon began an ever deeper descent into the troll-side of the farce.

 Cheesy ...
in that one the farce is strong,
mastered the dark arts of the subtle FUD has he.
4426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:26:06 AM
Crap money is ok for crap countries, in fact it almost defines them. All the observational evidence strongly points towards sound money as being a necessary condition for prosperity, especially over long time frames.

Jorge and ripple seem like a good match but in the long run they might both be dead.
4427  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
even if winklevii are looking for greater fools at the $40k mark they are gonna be needing some brass ones at that point to hand over the baton ... the thing about bitcoin, the higher it goes more and more will be on board and the risk will move towards being left out .... monetary network effect is an unstable disequilibrium and the sheeple are fickle beasts

... everyone is going to become a cultist and the bag holders will be the ones with fiat.

Simple as that.
4428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 03:27:15 AM
I wish I had an Australian bank, they're sellin for $400 there

sellers in the bitswamp must like getting reamed
4429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 05, 2014, 01:40:35 AM
Hypothetical: I have invented a two-way peg that requires no changes to the existing Bitcoin protocol. I.e. SC are now possible without any new code being run by the network.

What are you going to do about? Send in a PR to change the protocol to block hypothetical economic "attacks"?
It is not "Hypothetical" it is reality .

shhh, you are spoiling it.
4430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 05, 2014, 12:54:01 AM
Hypothetical: I have invented a two-way peg that requires no changes to the existing Bitcoin protocol. I.e. SC are now possible without any new code being run by the network.

What are you going to do about? Send in a PR to change the protocol to block hypothetical economic "attacks"?
4431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A MUST READ: Bitcoin In The Trenches of A Global Economic Warfare on: November 05, 2014, 12:34:44 AM
Bitcoin is a speck of dust compared to the other currencies discussed.  To talk like Bitcoin is affecting these or that it is "in the trenches" is ridiculous.  Claiming Bitcoin is "the strongest, most secure, Store of Value mankind has ever created" is beyond ridiculous.  Bitcoin can be copied in a gazillion alt coins.  Bitcoin does not store value unless people put value in it and not other things.

These crazy articles of how Bitcoin is currently competing with national does nothing except scare normal people away and makes Bitcoin weaker in the end.  The people who write articles like that play too many video games.


You are just wrong on many counts, it is you who is becoming 'ridiculous'.

You think 'normal' people don't like good money?
4432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2014, 12:29:47 AM
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/14488/bitcoin-in-trenches-of-global-economic-warfare/

crowded fiat exits.
4433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DO NOT GIVE THE GOVERNMENT ANY INFORMATION ABOUT BITCOIN on: November 05, 2014, 12:26:54 AM
Tell them nothing.

Agents of the Law: Ask them if you are being detained, and then walk away.

Representatives of the People: Vote for the good ones.

Government is NOT your master, they are the servants of the people.
4434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
this could turn real ugly real fast .... for the trollbearwhales that is.
4435  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 04, 2014, 09:24:46 PM
If SC suck as much as SC-discussions then we've got nothing to fear from them.
4436  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-11-03] Richard Branson calls for tougher Bitcoin rules on: November 04, 2014, 10:46:22 AM
Little Dicky must have had his 'wings clipped' ... he's playing nice and getting the cookies all of a sudden.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11207229/Sir-Richard-Bransons-Virgin-Money-back-on-float-path-after-Bank-of-England-thumbs-up.html

I wonder why?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/11207281/Virgin-Galactic-crash-we-owe-it-to-dead-to-continue-with-space-tourism-says-Galactic.html
4437  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 11:38:42 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/paypal-bitstamp-chief-compliance-officer/

chief cultist officer?
4438  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 10:55:45 PM
where's adam?

these trollbearwhales are rampant, someone needs to do some culling before they start eating themselves.

Excuse me if I am mistaking you for someone else, but aren't you an anarchist?

No. I'm a strong believer in Justice. Swift and violent if necessary.

You sure you weren't one of the guys going on about the pro-anarchy stuff? Coulda sworn...

Oh well, if I'm wrong, my mistake.

You and I probably disagree on what constitutes criminal behaviour.  E.g, many on Wall St. and the Federal 'regulators' should be behind bars or impoverished after 2007-08, imho.

'Legal' structures and intermediaries are inherently vulnerable to errors and corruption. Justice comes in many forms.
4439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 10:44:37 PM
where's adam?

these trollbearwhales are rampant, someone needs to do some culling before they start eating themselves.

it is good to be a bear from time to time, I just don't get the delusional cultist bulls like you, it really seems unhealthy and unbalanced.

cultist is a clever word for a dull mind, careful you point the gun in the right direction ... or the camel moves away from under you
4440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 03, 2014, 10:38:35 PM
where's adam?

these trollbearwhales are rampant, someone needs to do some culling before they start eating themselves.

Excuse me if I am mistaking you for someone else, but aren't you an anarchist?

No. I'm a strong believer in Justice. Swift and violent if necessary.
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