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4421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: THOUSANDS of Chemical Weapons Discovered at Iraqi Complex Now Held By ISIS on: October 16, 2014, 05:25:33 PM
I wish this were some neo-con fantasy like the WMDs from the war. But unfortunately these are real munitions from before the first gulf war. They are not exactly in the hands of IS. My understanding is that they were buried on site somewhere. But it is true that they could be discovered and even used.

We never should have poked the hornets nest in the mid east, but now that we have there is no going back. We will have to deal with stuff like this for the rest of our lives.
4422  Economy / Speculation / Re: The financial markets are starting to crash, abandon the fiat titanic on: October 16, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
So hands up all those that predicted a rise in Bitcoin price when/if the markets started to fall?
I would predict this, but it frequently follows the stock market. I can't think of any reason why? It makes more sense to run counter to the market, like gold. Whats with that?
4423  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: October 16, 2014, 03:31:26 PM

you would not be able to pillage anyone because they would be defended by a whole bunch of private armies who do respect non aggression because wars cost money and its better for business to just settle disputes in an agreed private court.
as long as the majority of military power respects non aggression a minority attacker will not be successful.  
same way as you need 51% of hashing power in bitcoin to consistently attack the network successfully.

the reason those messed up countries don't work is that the majority doesn't follow the non aggression protocol, that's not the case in America.

having multiple privately funded armies sharing power is not exactly anarchy.
because they have to compete for customers the free market will weed out the ineffective non profitable armies and you would be left with very effective protection against any aggression.

I do understand that logic, but it never happens that way. Who would pay the private army? And why on Earth would they work for a living when they can just take everything you own? As far as private courts, what law will they follow other than the laws they make up.
Lastly, there is no law holding you in the U.S. You are free to leave and pursue your liberty in the new Islamic Caliphate or Somalia, or the soon to be liberated Liberia. Once the government there collapses it should be a safe place to raise a family.
4424  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: October 16, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
the reason there are messed up places like that is not because of lack of government, its because of the mentality of the people there.
if they form a government it will be even worse then the situation where the warlords don't have a monopoly on military power.

America would not turn into a place like that should the government disappear, because the ethics of the people are different.
people in America generally respect the non aggression principle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

It is easy to think that "those people" are just doing it wrong and that Americans are somehow different. But there is no evidence of that. I, for example, do not respect non-aggression. I would offer free booty and slaves for those who will pillage with me. There is no middle ground, you are a slave or you are a king in an anarchy. You can probably guess how many kings are needed in such a system.

I saw a good example in Croatia during the civil war. Everyone thought that since they were Europeans it couldn't get that ugly. Well, they fought tooth and nail like beasts. No different than the wars I saw in Africa or Central America.

If this were a real anarchy then the posters in this thread would be put to the sword for saying what they said. But don't hate the warlord, he's just exercising his freedom.
4425  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: October 16, 2014, 02:00:05 PM
Self interest.

Ever been to a place without a functioning government? Your only missing out on the freedom of dying of a toothache at 30. Freeeedooooom!! Roll Eyes

sure, because only the government can heal a toothache.
let me tell you a secret, the doctor who takes care of you does not work for the government, in fact he wouldn't have to charge as much money if he didn't have to pay the free loader bureaucrats in the government their protection money.

I have spent a lot of time in the most impoverished places in the world. There are no dentists or doctors. Why? because there is only the strong and the weak. Any attempt to be a doctor would just get you kidnapped and held treating soldiers. I mean, why should I not keep a slave doctor?

If you lived in such a place you could not afford a dentist anyway. You would spend your time doing whatever the local warlord says you will do. No choices, no opportunity, just a lifetime of fear and poverty. That's what it's like, and I never met a person in a place like that who liked it.
4426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banking Elite Meet in Washington To Discuss Bitcoin Threat on: October 16, 2014, 01:48:48 PM

Not if banking elites declared martial law in the USA. Now that's a game changer and it will force the big brother to watch you at all times. One teeny weesy trace of bitcoin from your computer = death penalty.

Then the banking elites will force everyone to get their hand chipped with RDIF (aka Mark of the Beast) with central authority. Those who refuse to be chipped with RDIF will not be able to buy or sell. They can simply create their own version if bitcoin and force people to use it just like they did with fiat.

Complete nonsense. No one is going to force anyone to do that under any scenario. I will back my statement with a fight to the death. And pay you $1000 if it happens. Maybe you think the government is not yours because you are not participating. But I make the gov do what I want, not the other way round.
4427  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is "Armani Code" the perfume of bitcoiners? on: October 16, 2014, 01:41:04 PM
Can it be purchased for bitcoin?
4428  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: October 16, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Self interest.

Ever been to a place without a functioning government? Your only missing out on the freedom of dying of a toothache at 30. Freeeedooooom!! Roll Eyes
4429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: October 16, 2014, 01:33:27 PM
Some years ago I ran a computer maintenance operation on an Army base right next to the bay (salt water).  We could plot an exponential rise in pc board corrosion based on distance from the water.  But 600 feet inland, there was still corrosion.  That's what microdroplets do.  They are airborne, and have a finite lifetime (averaging milliseconds, but based mostly on the ambient humidity and temperature.  Statistical, but even after 3 sigma there are SOME floating.)  600 foot radius from one of these patients?

You might have to condemn the entire hospital if you take one of these patients in.  Lives lost are then far in excess of lives saved, so this is looking to me like tents in the desert, or somewhere isolated from the cities.  That's okay with me if that's what we have to do, I'd just like to see a reality orientation from the gubbermint(s).

Wow, that's interesting!
4430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After watching the documentary of bitcoin on: October 15, 2014, 07:35:04 PM
I think the first time I read this was when we hit 1BTC=$1USD.
"It's a dollar now! we missed the train!!"
4431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banking Elite Meet in Washington To Discuss Bitcoin Threat on: October 15, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Banking Elite Meet in Washington To Discuss Bitcoin Threat
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/banking-elite-meet-washington-discuss-bitcoin-threat/

Couldn't the elite bankers simply buy the entire network and take over bitcoin?  Aren't they so wealthy that they own the whole world? 
No. Absolutely not. Every day someone posits this idea, but no one has ever show a way to do it. Of course a bank could just start buying the coins, but that would drive the price up. Buying the network is not possible because anyone can use the network and own bitcoin. I for example will not sell my last bitcoin to the bankers for less than 1 trillion dollars. And even if they did the impossible and bought all the bitcoins it would not help them. Since they would be the only bitcoin holder their bitcoins would be valueless. So after spending trillions of dollars, they have nothing at all to show for it. And we would just move on to bitcoin 2.0.

Banks do not threaten bitcoin, bitcoin threatens banks.
4432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: October 15, 2014, 05:58:16 PM


Not being in your field, when you say "droplet transmission" are you referring to airborne micro droplets?  I know of these from chemical engineering and combustion technology. 
That's exactly right. Like when you sneeze and a million tiny drops become airborne. Ebola does not cause sneezing, but a patient could also have a cold and I think that means he/she could infect you with a sneeze.  Huh
Yeah those droplets can get mighty small.  Recall Millikan's famous electron oil drop experiments.  Imagine now one of those tiny droplets landing in your mucus membranes...and causing 'instant death' from Ebola!  Then you'll get the CDC saying that you were at fault for not wearing your respirator properly....
Certainly if you could get those viri drifting around on droplets it would be bad. For the most part, the patients diarrhea and vomit are the greatest concern. Especially when they reach the bleeding phase.  Fortunately this does not cause aerosolization and so a direct barrier is sufficient. 
Not that I would feel safe.
4433  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is it possible to create your own DESIRED address? on: October 15, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
Make sure you do it yourself! Farming out the creation of a vanity address means taking on a security risk. And remember that each desired character lengthens the time it will take to create.
So, 1Love4GjE1847hhs88q9ye8qbsag7 will take a lot less time than 1elitecoder47hhs88q9ye8qbsag7
4434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Correction is on the way... on: October 15, 2014, 05:27:30 PM
LOOK OUT BELOW! How low will it go?! Nobody knowsss

Oh god yes. It's down over 400 points right now! Get out while you can bag holders! Wall street is collapsing!

Thanks for the warning man. I'm dumping my shitty fiat coupons for bitcoin. Real money!
4435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: October 15, 2014, 04:15:20 PM

I work on pandemic flu response. It's no joke and one day it will break out and kill millions and millions of us. Flu is a threat magnitudes of order more dangerous than Ebola.  


No Ebola is worse than flu as it currently exists, but possibly you are referring to something like the Spanish flu of 1918 that went airborne.  Ebola btw also has been transmitted by airborne transmission between Rhesus monkeys.  Ebola kills 70% of nearly everybody that comes in contact with it, while flu as currently in existence kills lots of old people and children.  Further, note the Spanish nurse, the Dallas deceased medical technician, and the two nurses in Dallas who are infected all wore rabbit suits but still caught the virus. Apparently--says the discoverer of Ebola, a Belgian doctor--taking off your goggles incorrectly, and rubbing your eye, can infect you with Ebola. It's that potent.  

I am predicting an outbreak of Ebola next year that will cause a worldwide recession--you read it here first.  What that does to bitcoin is anybody's guess.

TonyT
Well, the evidence of airborne transmission in pigs and monkeys is very weak. There is some evidence of droplet transmission, but ebola is considered kids stuff compared with Flu. That could change if a strain evolves in the human population it's infecting right now. But it is extremely unlikely to evolve the ability to become airborne. The fear is more about evolving the ability to infect others while the patient is asymptomatic.  That would greatly complicate things.
Right now it is thought that most health care providers who become infected contract the disease during the "doffing" (undressing) process.  If Ebola were an airborne disease those protective cloths would do nothing and the whole hospital would be raging with viri.
4436  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm going to warn you guys one last time. on: October 15, 2014, 01:55:41 PM
He will be back once the btc price starts going down again.  Grin

I doubt it... this community doesn't discuss what price it will fall too! They just say buy buy buy , perma bull BS!  Cry

He is clearly gone because the price is going up. As are most of the bear-trolls. Just like every time the price goes up. Now the perma-bulls take over and make equally silly predictions.
4437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The how-do-we-make-it-illegal problem for the bankers on: October 14, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
An even bigger problem for them could be people like me. People who are basically law abiding, but who will use bitcoin no matter what the law is.  Wink
4438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: October 14, 2014, 07:23:18 PM
Ebola is not a candidate for weaponization. The closest attempt was by the Soviets. They weaponized the related Marburg virus, which also causes hemorrhagic fever. I don't think they ever used it.

But no nation is going to use a wild form of a virus. It would be like shooting a gun with barrels in all directions. You could not control who it infects, nor could you stop it once it starts spreading. In the future there will likely be highly selective germs created that target a particular race for example. Those will be dangerous bugs indeed.

Yes, the future is going to be weird...

But these guys don't need technology, and they aren't nation states.
You know they used to catapult diseased animals and dead people over castle walls?
They aren't interested in stopping the spread of it either.  God will sort it out.
There are a lot of crazies out there.


There is a lot of current effort into controlling the reservoir of infection, which is good because it is uncontrolled currently.  Awareness is the best defense.

Your scenario scares the pants off people who may have to respond. Remember the doomsday cult in Tokyo? Those are the guys who tried killing everyone on the subway system with ricin poison. Imagine if they had serious germs. Some group like that could infect themselves and head out into the crowds. It might be very hard to stop them.
4439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: October 14, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
Ebola is not a candidate for weaponization. The closest attempt was by the Soviets. They weaponized the related Marburg virus, which also causes hemorrhagic fever. I don't think they ever used it.

But no nation is going to use a wild form of a virus. It would be like shooting a gun with barrels in all directions. You could not control who it infects, nor could you stop it once it starts spreading. In the future there will likely be highly selective germs created that target a particular race for example. Those will be dangerous bugs indeed.
4440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Unarmed teen shot by cops for a sandwich on: October 14, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
as an armed civilian, police should not do things arbitrarily like that, it is beyond humanity, armed police should have been posted under multiple tests, especially psychological tests, namely how their emotions are very influential when holding a gun, shoot someone who is not guilty without a weapon is something really not justified by the law, hopefully it can be processed according to the law and get a just punishment ...  Cool

You may want to check this story again. The police are saying that he was armed and in fact fired at least three shots at police. There are no other witnesses. It is not clear where the sandwich story came from. Evidence on the scene is described as consistent with the police account. 
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