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4441  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: September 17, 2014, 01:29:40 AM
What about bet, Monero has BIG security flaw and will be ZERO next week ?

I will take that bet. 

What about:
 publish your monero address
 I'll publish bitcoin address

You will have to pay 1:10 (0.0004 BTC) of the current price 0.004 to published bitcoin address (in bitcoins) for every incoming transaction in monero otherwise you are liar. ?

if every monero coin is so easily "hackable" why do you not do it.

why is it no one has successfully done what you are suggesting?

hint : maybe because you're wrong

Excuse me but Stealing your shit brings me nothing. Maybe you would try to steal my shit.

surely there's plenty of crypto hacker out there looking for easy money.

what are they waiting for, there's a 6 million market cap coin up for grabs  Huh
4442  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: September 16, 2014, 10:44:28 PM
What about bet, Monero has BIG security flaw and will be ZERO next week ?

I will take that bet. 

What about:
 publish your monero address
 I'll publish bitcoin address

You will have to pay 1:10 (0.0004 BTC) of the current price 0.004 to published bitcoin address (in bitcoins) for every incoming transaction in monero otherwise you are liar. ?

if every monero coin is so easily "hackable" why do you not do it.

why is it no one has successfully done what you are suggesting?








hint : maybe because you're wrong
4443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 16, 2014, 07:21:56 PM
Check out Ripple's new offices:

http://42floors.com/us/ca/san-francisco/300-montgomery-st

https://xrptalk.org/topic/3736-rls-new-offices-theyre-nice/


I bet RL's huge team enjoys working there. https://www.ripplelabs.com/team/


What are the current prospects for improvements to Bitcoin? Last I checked, core developers were complaining and leaving.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Here is Bitpay's new Amsterdam Headquarters

http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/09/07/bitpay-s-new-amsterdam-headquarters.html

They're only one of many Bitcoin companies, as you may know.

Should we carry on with this pissing contest or are you done ?
4444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2014, 09:50:53 PM
But what about consumers who are not investors and just want to use coinbase to buy something? Would they be better off from a one time purchase using bitcoin in that case. I guess that is my question. If the threshold for consumers (to get an advantage) is to become investors of a large amount of bitcoin, well it seems a bit harsh, no?

Exactly, some seem to suggest that all bitcoiners are rich therefore we should be able to spend the scrapes of money we were able to put together to INVEST in bitcoin and then turn around and re-buy bitcoins so our stack remains intact.

This is certainly not my case. I'll be damned if I spend my bitcoins if I believe they are so damned undervalued right now
4445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2014, 09:43:01 PM


1. No one time. You have 50 BTC invested.
2. You take 1 BTC of your invested stack and buy whatever product you want
3. The you rebuy 1 BTC with fiat

So you only spend 1 times the fiat cost of the item you bought (although probably less due to all the benefits of Bitcoin)

Hmmm I'm sorry but how does this not entail spending 2x the amount of money, fiat or BTC.

4446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
Forget the price for a moment.  Daily and weekly price movements are noise.  Everyone who cries about companies adopting btc because it puts pressure on the price needs to get a brain that thinks more than a week in advance.

The big picture is that the future of bitcoin is adoption and usage by more and more people.  Dell, Global Payments, PayPal, etc, are all steps forward in usage.  Remittance actually works in the Philippines, at a total cost of 2% (buying, transmitting, selling, dumping cash into bank account), and other countries will follow.  None of these will have a huge short term impact on price.  But they are necessary and huge successes in the long term, and should be priced in as major stepping stones forward.

The next step is store of value, taking on the tax haven money and gold bugs.  These will have a much larger effect on price, but require more stability in price.

If you only care about the price in 6 months, hate on PayPal adoption.  If you care about the price in 2 years, cheer for PayPal adoption.  More usage, more adoption, demands a higher market cap in the future.
I'm not hating on the PayPal adoption, i actually think it is a huge step forward. The product that PayPal is selling is their easy-to-use payment system. You can buy things internationally with one click and don't have to exchange money. PayPal takes care of it all. The thing that brought me to bitcoin is the economic principle behind it and in my opinion people will be able to use bitcoin just as another payment option. So they won't have to care about the idea behind it. While this widens the possible usage, it puts bitcoin as the great idea it is in the background. That's the risk i see. But i will hodl Smiley

Bitcoin is first and foremost money. Store of value first, then currency and eventually unit of account.

All this "payment system" and transactional utilities are bells and whistles. Merchant adoption is important but it is not what drives bitcoin.

In my opinion there is only a minority of people that care to use Bitcoin for daily transactions. Most people "hoard" it as a store of value and to speculate. This is what has driven the price of Bitcoin from 0 to now. And if the phenomenon continues on its exponential pace like it has for the past years, then we will be fine.

This is also why these news have no impact on the price. They bring awareness sure, but they don't bring in new "investors". I don't expect they should. Frankly, apart from a couple of minor use cases, there are little to no incentives to use Bitcoin as a currency vs. fiat as it is right now. And that's not a problem.
4447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A new better bitcoin - capital coin on: September 07, 2014, 04:21:24 AM
I think you need to watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkfhi8Eaiw&

Money doesn't have to be backed by anything.

:35 gold has value because that is what someone is willing to pay for it.
1:20 what he is saying is true, unless somethig that comes along is better.  A capital coin or one the inflates the least is best.  If you can actually delete coins, better.  The only way you are going to get 10% + deletion is via using your coins value as capital.


4:25 it needs to be scarce, is not deflating even better?
5:30 there are other metals too copper, gold might be worthless in 5,000 years once we start mining moon.
6:13 one think gold is better that bitcoin, gold is a commodity and has other uses like filling in your teeth.  If bitcoin owned disneyland, we could get free tickets.



what problem do you have with deflation ?

bitcoin has plenty of other uses apart from being a store of value, much more so than gold actually.

again, money does not need backing. bitcoin is money. a capital coin is stupid. you can issue shares of a corporation with colored coins. but "backing" a coin to the economy of a corporation? stupid
4448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A new better bitcoin - capital coin on: September 07, 2014, 03:40:34 AM
I think you need to watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkfhi8Eaiw&

Money doesn't have to be backed by anything.
4449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop talking about the damn SR coins - it is the LEAST significant price mover on: June 25, 2014, 11:51:30 PM
I don't usually post here but there is so much FUD spread in this post I couldn't abstain myself from commenting

The suggestion that the governement is selling coins because somehow they found an exploit in the bitcoin protocol or any of the elements mentionned after is some of the most ridiculous stuff I've had the misfortune to read on this board. Anyone even entertaining these thoughts need to get checked cause something ain't right with their heads


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