electricity is still 50% less than yours. Mining doesn't require a fast connection, a dial-up line will probably work just fine. All you're doing is spreading FUD about your competitors.
What competitors? I don't know of any in siberia. |
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Once upon a time, there were six 5970s calling this little house home, their poor master couldn't afford a server room; (not) surprisingly, they all survived a N40 0 hot summer, including a few 100+ days. Actually they are still living there, all live and well. http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/bitcool5/IMAG0193.jpgEpic win. No problems with rain/humidity? |
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..stuff I knew... As the topic of this thread is about contracting out the design, I was asking what that would cost for an FPGA from a real company. i.e. don't take it all the way to an ASIC I am collecting a list of vendors and will see. Why? They will just try to sell you a low performance, tightly-rolled design. No need to reinvent the wheel. |
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(because a yacht, of course).
But but but.... what if I already have one?  |
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I am seriously considering buying the butterfly labs singles instead. 8 of them will cost 4500 and get 6 gigs on one rig.
And you aren't even limited to 8 per rig either. Up to 100 max  |
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You sound like you have a lot of time on your hands to run this venture, and that's cool. Even discussing making your own UPSs. I wish I had that much time to play with hardware |
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If you took the time to talk with BFL instead of hacking away on your keyboard, you too would realized that the only company that can try to pull of perfection is Apple.
The rest of us just try to muddle through it.
i'm sorry, are you saying apple either achieves or approaches perfection? He did use the word "try". As to whether they have, no, no they have not achieved perfection. Not even close. |
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*Mental masturbation*
Well I guess we know where our piss stains come from now. Also, let this be a lesson to the idiots who even support (or think they need) "ignore" in the first place: This guy thinks Theymos suggested this feature. He has been misinformed and miseducated on a fact, just because he chose to ignore individuals. He will forever be wrong on that point, and he'll never know the difference because he <3 ignore. Quoted for truth, and possibly in hopes that he will see this. |
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Ohhh, so they implemented the 'ignore' indicator, huh?
I saw a few people with light-yellow. I am the only one I've seen the orange on. I am pretty sure that means I am the king.
Yeah theymos didn't want to implement a number-based scoring system, so he used the colors. Although you could probably write a Greasemonkey script to decode the colors and show them as numbers. The frown face is just because it is your own profile and you can't ignore yourself. |
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Ya .. I screwed up and used them without looking them up here first ...
lost my bitcoin and the domain 'thefiatfreezone.com' to them ...
They aren't a registrar, are they? |
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My only gripe about the 5970 cooling system is that GPU1 gets sloppy seconds from GPU0 when it comes to airflow. They parallelized airflow with the 6990 which solved one problem but introduced another (blows hot air back into the box). I wish there was a way to get the best of both worlds without going with water cooling...
Offset heatsinks would be one way, but there really isn't any way to do that is such a small formfactor. |
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Zhoutong you need to have a serious look at your coding.
I've just had 2 portions of 50btc sold from a stop order @ 4.77 they executed @ 4.57 which is WAY FUCKED compared with the current market.
I expect to see those two trades reversed asap.
This kind of shit has been happening for months, and no resolution. |
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LESSONS LEARNED:
Under promise, over deliver - NOT the other way around. Someone send a note to all those new startups now please.
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And now we also know that the cost to design that thing (sASIC), including cases, power, software, DRM, etc has to be below $375,000. If they need an investor I am available via PM You don't know that from the information presented here. It may very well be possible, but the first run doesn't necessarily have to break even or make a profit in order to proceed with more units. |
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This isn't a data-center. The beauty of outdoor cooling is that you don't need the ridiculous density of a datacenter. You can spread things out, you don't need to stuff 20 video cards into a single tower. Also, given this is just a hobby or personal business for most of us, we are not restricted by customer contractual demands. Reliability isn't nearly as important or critical.
You haven't bothered to look at my sig, have you? Density is key and king. Reliability is damn important as well. You might be in it as a hobby, but some folks like to make a business of it. No problem with that. If I wish to cool my rigs to an acceptable temperature with a low outside ambient temp, I use an open window and no additional fans, or perhaps a small fan to direct the air to an appropriate location. If I wish to do the same in the summer, I need massive amounts of air flowing, which requires noise and power. And even then, the cards are not going to remain within a tolerance that I wish to see.
Like I said, moving the goalposts. You can cool your rigs with outside air, even in the summer. Massive amounts of air flowing? Whatever. It's all relative. If that "massive" airflow is cheaper than running the AC 24/7, it's a net gain. Noise? Power? Absoklute power is irrelevant, what matters is the relative power. If it's less power to cool via blowing air than it is to run an AC unit, the power usage is a gain, not a negative. "A tolerance that I wish to see", lovely. So it's not even about provable facts anymore, if you decide the numbers aren't good enough you get to win the argument for free? Nice try, but no. If the cards work reliably enough than who cares what rfk thinks is the correct temperature. Your wishes are not important in this discussion. Do you know what causes a lack of reliability? That's right, heat. 80 C is far too hot to be sufficiently reliable for me, and 60 is just right. "Just working" isn't good enough. Working for years without failure is what is necessary. You can cool your rigs with ambient air at close to 90 degrees and low GPU fan speed -
Is that a small spark of intelligence? Are you finally starting to understand how heating and cooling works? If it's possible to cool down to 60C at 90F, how much harder do you think it is to cool to 80C at 110F? I have yet to see evidence of actual rigs being cooled to 60C at 90F, and as I said above 80C is completely unacceptable. Since I can't control the temperature in the summer, I may even need to maintain 60C at 110F. Using an existing air conditioning system and making it run continuously is actually more efficient than installing powerful blowers for outside air cooling, since part of the A/C isn't used for this application anyway. OK, what is the core temperature? 75, 80, 85 degrees C?
Who cares? He said it could be done, he didn't specify any particular temperature other than the general assumption that the cards were functioning. I care. I want my cards to last forever. Is that too much to ask?  |
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What stale/reject rate should we expect on GPUMAX?
Over 9000. No seriously, it will be way higher than usual, but the extra payout usually makes it worth it. |
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Paypal sent me an email you scammer saying your bank rejected the refund.
[citation needed] |
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I don't owe a fucking cent you liar. Everyday more people are seeing the light.
I see the light every morning. Then right around dusk it disappears again. Weird, huh? And little so_stupid asstana d00d? Since you mangled your declaration of debt-free status... you might want to quickly edit out that whole picture of your credit card statement thing that shows that you do, indeed, owe a whole lot of fucking cents, or fucking Aussie cents, or fucking rupees, or fucking cowries or whatever the fucking fuck you use down there. That is called stepping in your own shit. Embarrassing for you! I don't need to edit out anything. I'm sure it's being wached anyway as a result of this so there is no point. Thats why you and the others wont come out ad threaten me here, you know I'm being watched. No, we just aren't lashing out with overt threats because we happen to know that that kind of thing tends to be somewhat illlegal. You are being watched because you are a scammer and have repeatedly threatened people here. |
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This awesome cooler burns card to 95* C when i'm mining, and it very noise. I replace cooler for same one, so it didn't help. VERY hot, very wrong. I'm have a open rig. I can't buy accelero 5970 cooler, so i will mod original cooling system  If it is 95 degrees with no overclocking and a reasonable ambient temperature, then you need to take it apart and re-apply the thermal grease and tape. |
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Man it would be cool to have a 3 phase pump on a PID loop with a VFD. Then you could add and remove rigs with no need to worry about balancing anything out (for the most part). The pump would just slow down as more resistance is added (closing off valves to swap a rig, or whatever) or speed up if you add more rigs to the loop.
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