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4501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 20, 2016, 05:53:54 AM
Get a hobby that need much time like fishing, play online games and do gym. That will make you forget about gambling and in the end you will forget about gambling.
Playing online works for me like league of legends but the result is addicted in league of legends and sometimes 18 hours i am playing league of legends.. until now while im reading some thread here in our forum im playing..

It is a good substitute to gambling addiction if you become a professional player. By then you will be earning thousands of dollars and you are enjoying your gaming. But if you are just playing without aim, then it is the same as gambling. You are neglecting your health and money playing longs hours for nothing. 
4502  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: May 20, 2016, 05:50:45 AM
Are you inspired by those bitcoin millionaires? Are you thinking of filing a resignation letter on your day job (if you have any) and focus on bitcoin instead?

Me? I do have a day job and I consider bitcoin as my side job. I don't want to lose that another source of income just because bitcoin is awesome.

Hell no, real job is more important for me because is main income, and bitcoin just for lucrative passive income Smiley.
I use bitcoin only for investment, because the investment is too risky, so do not leave your real life job.
thanks
That's true, you cannot rely your future to bitcoin alone, although it is stable now due to the price that is slowly increasing but we don't see the future and anything can happen. It is always good to have a back source of income in life.
A back up source of income is good but you should also consider savings. While you are strong and can still earn, save some of your money for the future. So even if you work on bitcoin or day jobs, you will not be afraid because you have enough savings to cover you when something happens. It is not just having two or three jobs, it is having something saved from your salary that can secure your future.
4503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: May 20, 2016, 04:39:52 AM
Any sites you recommend?
Strategy?
the only strategy to don't lose in gambling is to be the owner of casino, as i know there is only casino wich don't lose; and this assur you a large benifit.
but if you were a occasional or professional player you'll lose sooner or later.
i think u need the luck of the irish to win in gambling because all scams,  And a lesser extent sportsbook

all scams? what do you mean is gambling site all scam?
so many gambling site here still working for the long run like primedice, betking and many more.
don't said gambling site is all scam if you are not lucky or not got profit in gambling.

The funny thing is, this guy believe that gambling is scam but still promote a gambling site. LOL.
Maybe this guy is on the loosing side that's why he always says this. Or just don't know what is the meaning of scam. There are some old gambling sites that still running until now, so i don't think it's a scam

Who says gambling is scam, gambling is fair and square when in comes to the outcome of the game. The problem is just the odds are not in our favor because they set the rules. You need to be extremely well and lucky in order to earn unlimited money in this business.

Of course the house needs the odds on their side so they can still profit on gambling. Without a house edge, all casinos will be bankrupted in a month and we will have nowhere to gamble. It is not fair but it is just the way it is. As a player, it is on you to find out how to beat the house and make the odds on your favor.
4504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 20, 2016, 04:27:51 AM
The poor people that live from the hopes of making money on gambling are very deluded and im sorry for them. Im broke myself and I know how stupid it would be to spend my hard earned money in risky gambling. Sure, taking big risks its the only way to get out of the broke situation, but if you lose you will not even be broke anymore, you will be on the streets begging for food and I would rather stay broken than that. My only hope is that my Bitcoins are valuable enough in 10 years to change my life.
Most of the people do not understand, how gambling should be played unlike you. They forget the value of their bitcoin and simply going for gambling to waste them.
I guess you will become rich with your bitcoin hoardings and you will come back to gambling after you become rich.

I don't think he will still come back to gambling after proving to himself that getting rich from gambling is just an illusion. And the only way to get out of bankruptcy is through hard work. He already knows the value of hard earned bitcoin and will not risk to lose it on a game of gamble. I also believe that staying away from gambling even when you are rich is a smart choice.
4505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you holding your bitcoin for a price increase? on: May 20, 2016, 03:54:12 AM
The most people with a smart mind are holding their coin and that is because they know that they can earn some more money later and that would be perfect for them.
But they already have waited a long time because it was already stable for a long time so that is bad.

Yeah people don't like to see price stable for a long time as they cannot make profits on regular time but holding till halving can help us in the best possible way.

Though not much, the price still moves up and down. Even a few dollars movement is good enough to make profit it you have enough capital and made right calls. And a stable price is still good if your earning bitcoins because it means you can exchange it for a higher price. And merchants are more attracted to invest in it if it is stable.
4506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 17, 2016, 10:21:44 PM
The chance is gambling is pretty high that you can lose a lot of money with it and that would be bad for the most people because they cant stop with it and they will get poor in just a time.
So if you want to fix you life it will be almost impossible because winning in gambling is really rare and happens not often.
Yes most of the people are starting gambling with the expectation of getting fixed by gambling way. But, unfortunately gambling is not mean for finding life with it. So they are finally wrecking out their life.
Yes, we must understand gambling is not for fixing our life by any means. Some people would say gambling is fixing their life by giving some entertainment but that would be only for temporary, in long run they also will find gambling wrecking their life.

Gambling is just a temporary fix, even if you say it won you a lot of money. If you do it as a source of income, you will fail. It is not a means to have a fixed income. If you rely on it, in the long run, it can ruin your life because there will be losses when you wanted the most to win.
4507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 17, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
Nope, I will spent my time and money with my family to go somewhere rather than gambling

Good thinking. That is a better thing to do than waste your time gambling. It is wiser to spend your free time with your family than go on a casino and lose a part of your money. You and your family enjoy and you strengthen your bond together. But if you gamble, you are the only one enjoying.
4508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 17, 2016, 04:21:20 PM
Some times fix  my life and some times i want to kill my self.  So im stoping now, becouse i dont have btc right now lol . I love gambling
BTC you collect exhausted just because of gambling, very unfortunate. if you are trading with the BTC, the result will not be like that. gambling does not have to until our money runs out, gambling was wisely.

Trading does not mean it is profit all the way. YOu can still trade poorly and lose bitcoins. The only difference is, you can control the outcome in trading by studying the movements. Unlike gambling, gambling really relies on luck to make good money. Either trading or gambling, you should not go all the way. Reserve some bitcoins or money for future use. Trade or gamble wisely.
For sure, it is still risky and it is correlated to gambling. But I can say that it is more safer that gambling. In trading if you can master it you can profit in the future while gambling is just purely a big guessing game.

Hey, you can also master sports betting. Know all the teams playing and bet according to their statistics. It can make you lose less than the normal luck based game in casinos. It could be tricky specially if the sports is very big. But with a little bit of luck, you can make money.
4509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: May 17, 2016, 04:17:36 PM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!

There is one problem behind that rule: How you can say I am ready to lose my money. There is allways chance that I will win.
And to understand this it`s very hard.

I think what he means is you should be ready to lose the money you are gambling with. Ignore the fact that there is allways a chance that you will win, imagine what will happen if you will lose and if you are okey with it, then you can start gambling and you will not have problems in the future.

That is actually where the problem starts. You are ignoring the fact that you are losing. And soon, you won't realize that you have lost everything that you own in gambling. And there is no turning back by then, because you are already addicted to gambling by that time.
4510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 17, 2016, 04:00:05 AM
I was wrong here, I really thought that they could easily pass 230 points. But on the fourth quarter, points started to slow down until it get stacked. Good defense shown by oklahoma. They deserve this win. Hoping for GSW to bounce back next game.
4511  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 17, 2016, 03:56:26 AM
Its too risky if you just invest it and expect for nothing because as of now there's no legit investment site... but i know that you can invest to as just partner of houseedge.. like betking io they are offering to invest your money there' but there still risk if the house is lose you will also lose.. but i think house is always win..
What are you talking about? If you smart enough to invest in Bitcoin, then you should be smart enough to invest you Bitcoin into something else. Investing is definitely the best way to use your money.

YOu are right that the best use of money is investing. But it is not always right that if you can invest in bitcoin, you can invest anywhere. Investing in bitcoin is already a risk. If you want to invest, don't just look on online investments. Go look elsewhere too. YOu can pick stocks or mutual funds. Just remember to read, study those investment platforms first before putting your money in.
4512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 17, 2016, 03:52:20 AM
Gambling can bring profit or losses. But it is better to gamble with what you can afford to lose.

Yeah! but at the end of the day, people will surely think the money that he/she loss even it is small or big. They will also think that, "what if i didn't bet my money", "what if i just put it in my wallet", something like that.

Those doubts will make you think of the money that you lose but you will still gamble anyway because you want to multiply what you have in your hands. The lure of easily earning big, without much effort, is really hard to resist. Especially when you see someone earn so much from a game or bet.
4513  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: May 17, 2016, 03:30:12 AM
if you believe bitcoin, and you trust bitcoin can survive im sure you will go full time on bitcoin. if i have dream to use bitcoin as main source. and use it to daily job.
Yeah but it is not that smart to believ 100% in Bitcoin because anything can happen. Maybe Bitcoin is going to disappear and you have just quit your job.
So I would keep my job and just do Bitcoin on the side.

That is the safe option. Keeping your job and doing bitcoin on the side. But if you are adventurous and you do not have other responsibilities but yourself, I think going full time with bitcoin is a good option too. Right now, bitcoin is really profitable, so you can live and earn more with it.
4514  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 17, 2016, 03:27:52 AM
It's a good idea though, i also pick both save money and invest money. Just don't go all in on an investment. Spare some for saving, and it would be okay.

Dont you know that saving and investing your money is something that could be done with a same action? If you invest your money, you are actually saving it as well because what you invest in means that thing is yours and it is definitely your money so it is actually a same action though people dont understand it and think it is different

I think the difference is when you save you just put your money somewhere you can't spend it. But when you invest, you put your money where it have the probability to earn more money. You don't have to spend time thinking where to put money if you just want to save it. But you need to really analyze where you want to invest. You may lose all your money if you put it an a losing investment.
4515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 17, 2016, 03:24:31 AM
Some times fix  my life and some times i want to kill my self.  So im stoping now, becouse i dont have btc right now lol . I love gambling
BTC you collect exhausted just because of gambling, very unfortunate. if you are trading with the BTC, the result will not be like that. gambling does not have to until our money runs out, gambling was wisely.

Trading does not mean it is profit all the way. YOu can still trade poorly and lose bitcoins. The only difference is, you can control the outcome in trading by studying the movements. Unlike gambling, gambling really relies on luck to make good money. Either trading or gambling, you should not go all the way. Reserve some bitcoins or money for future use. Trade or gamble wisely.
4516  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: May 17, 2016, 03:21:58 AM
If it was that easy to get rich everybody must be rich. You nee a good idea not a small
one but a big one. Don't just work but work your a$$ off and set your mind on zero and go.
combines real job and bitcoin as a sideline, it can make you faster to attain wealth. especially with bitcoin, you can get unexpected results, sometimes you can get greater results than a real job.
That's true you need to have multiple source of income which can help you in getting richer sooner, as if bitcoin reaches to moon in future, you can cash out anytime.


Having multiple source of income while studying and trying something new just in case one of your sources of income goes bankrupt or if that field of business becomes unprofitable. You have to be smart and dedicated in order to be really rich. If you only have one source of income, even if it does pay well, there's still a chance that it will be gone so you need to have an extra source of income just in case that happens.

And if you can, do investments. Investments prove to be the best way to get rich. But if you are starting poor, you do not have to invest right away. Do multiple jobs, earn money, save and invest. This is the path I am taking but I am still on earning phase. But while I am still saving, I am trying to learn a lot about the right way to invest.
4517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: May 17, 2016, 03:18:33 AM
There is no max as to how much you can win. There is just a max on how much you can lose... all of your money. So don't gamble for gains and earnings, just gamle to have some fun, if you can't have fun in othre things.

i have said this before here and in other places. there IS a max to how much you can win.

the max is set in all the gambling sites to prevent them from going under. because if the site is provably fair there is always a chance that a big roller comes along and gets lucky and bankrupt the casino.

Yeah, it will come to that time that a lucky person hits that big amount. It will happen if the casino/sites are really provably fair. As we all know that the owner rather cheat sometimes to prevent this from happening. The owners too are on a gamble.

Owners can give big jackpots once in a while. This will be big news to gamblers and that will attract more players to their site if gamblers knew that someone won big on that site. They will think that they can win that big too. Though mostly it was just a publicity stunt to promote the site to gamblers.
4518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 17, 2016, 03:10:58 AM
it is wrong if you consider it anything more than a hobby, you can't make stable profit from it and you shouldn't spend too much time on it, Also never use big amounts in it IMO.
I agree with you. if we look at gambling as a source of income was very wrong. but if it's a hobby or having fun its good. because if you consider it as a source of income you will be addicted and could also lose all your money and also can make you crazy.
it depends on how you see it and that is the problem because as you can see now you see also that there are more people that is realizing that gambling is quite bad to do.
Some people are rich because of gambling but the most people lost a lot of money with gambling and that is bad.

We should realize that not all gamblers will make a fortune on gambling. Only very few people can really make tons of money on gambling. If you do realize that, then you can control yourself and not view gambling as a source of income. So you bet moderately and lose or win moderately. Nothing bad happens. But if you lose control, then all bad things happen.
4519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 17, 2016, 03:07:33 AM
I wonder if you can mail the gambling websites and ask them to ban your account or maybe your ip/mac (since it's hard to change your mac) I am sure this will keep you away from it for a long time!

Do you have to email all the gambling websites about your ip/mac address? and how about your security, will you trust them that information? And even if you do, I do not think that gambling website owners will do that. That is a potential customer they will lose if they do that. Bad for business.  The control must come within you, not from any outside force.
4520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: May 17, 2016, 03:04:31 AM
If you believe the casino you're investing in will be around for many years.. I think investing would be ok. I'm just afraid of a casino running off with the invested btc!

yeah, that is nice idea, he should have to invest in those casinos which have be online here from a long time and if he want to try some casinos which have come online recently then he should have to take the start with small amount in order to check its legibility.

You should never invest in something that is not established yet. That is a real gamble. You will never know if the owner will just run away with your money. It is better if you invest on casinos that has already established its name in the industry. You know it already have loyal customers and the owner won't run away with your money.
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