true, and all of these risks can be minimized with transparency; if the site shows their bankroll at all times as well as proof of funds, investors can see for themselves weather or not the site's investment system is legitimate or not. i believe the lack of this transparency was why dadice decided to halt their investment option as well
Dicebitco.in offered exactly that but it still ended up making its investors lose money. It offered proof of funds and the size of the bankroll was always shown on the upper left corner of the site: Just passed 1k+ Bets in less than 3h O_o  Quote from an article on the site's demise: Since the beginning of the authorship of this article, DiceBitco.in owners manl and gerry have stopped responding to users on Bitcointalk and a player, going by the name mateo, has continually placed bets with a near perfect win ratio, emptying the site and stealing the entireity of investor funds. Link: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112470/dicebitcoin-accused-of-cheating-playersMany others fell from the same thing. Even TF's sites got raped. The only truly safe place for your money is in your own hands. Coinbase offers insurance, but if you read what they say, if their service was hacked or someone found a way to exploit addresses to wipe them out, insurance would not cover the situation. |
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I just wanted to ask, if this is not a Ponzi scheme, and this is the real deal, why do not you just doubled your coins.
it's easier than finding investors
They are not doubling the money in 10 seconds man... I don't think they are billionaire, so more money they receive and the higher is the return. Same goes for crypto big and some others. I don't know, it's a tricky thing. Sure, we could look at it as: I have $100. I can double that every 6 months, so in 6 months I have $200. After a year I have $400. or I have $100. I borrow $900. In 6 months I have $1000 (and have paid out $800). After a year I have $2000 (and have paid out $1600. Effective return is the same BUT now there's $4k worth of infrastructure built. So now instead of borrowing money, they can keep ALL the site's income, which is now $2k every year. This is a watered down version but it's the same reason why places like Wal-Mart sell stock. Because they can't grow? No. It's because it lets them grow FASTER so their income is higher and everyone wins. |
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It's easy to see where traffic comes from. And you won't have to avoid them -- if you don't have a successful site, you won't be approached by them regardless, :p.
As for opening a page 10-50x... if the same person is looking at the same 50 pages every single day, that's pretty obvious. If someone comes each day and views 10 different pages, that's normalcy.
Anyways, I was just sharing how the real world works. Though I guess things are a bit different if we're in a sub-sector that is sub-par in terms of quality/traffic.
Edit: some require ComScore tags to be added, which is an easy way for the network to see traffic data, as well as pass it off to advertisers.
Yes it could be partly tracked and controlled, but if it's not completely automatic it would need at least one worker to constantly check the traffic. The point is, that even if it's automatic (for which you can always argue about the fairnes of the algorithms), for example there are faucet visitors that visit your page 100 times a day and may never be interested in your ad. Multiply them by 100-1000+ and you will just be throwing your money away if you want to advertise for every non-unique view. I know that's how the real world works now, but why not improve for the better way of advertising? Advertising is very expensive and ineffective today. None of these networks would take faucets. Even AdSense will ban faucet owners before they get paid. Completely different animal here. I thought we were talking about actual websites -- not one-page borderline scam sites. And advertising is still VERY much effective. I don't know where you're getting your data from but it's completely untrue. |
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By the way, were offering 75,000 Coin2 and we will also grant a special item in the game to anyone that is from korea, taiwan, or china that can help translate the language files to english. as you can see from the screenshots alot is still untranslated, and what we do have is translated to really bad english(thanks to google translate).
We are also looking for someone that can provide us with a windows vps, 50,000 Coin2 for this and a special item in the game.
If you need a Windows VPS, check out FlipperHost (disclaimer: affiliate link). I've been with them almost 18 months now and they have been beyond awesome, even going as far as helping resolve problems with the VPS, despite it being unmanaged. They're extremely cheap, but are awesome and I love their support,  . |
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Invest in btcjam.com
You can get good profit over time,
and dont forget to diverse your investment on different lists.
"investing" in btcjam might as well be gambling; scams are pretty common there, and it doesnt take that much to get a listing to appear legitimate. is there even a legal process for dealing with people who default on their loans? so far my guess would be that theres not. There is. It's called "small claims" (lower than $5k in most states) or normal court ($5k+). It's more of a question of whether or not you want to pursue them. |
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Why do so many people feel like it's going to go up? What's new?
What's new compared to..? What is the last news you read? That Max Kaiser had ditched the project and created the thing as a scam. I think you should select other sources for your information.. Where did this come from btw.? The big thing now is of course the startcoin meeting in London tonight. https://t.co/xknZeO7dZaThoroughly covered in this thread. That was the general consensus between START and START2. That said, it's good to see that things are different now. I haven't followed it since the switch to 2.0. |
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Invest in btcjam.com
You can get good profit over time,
and dont forget to diverse your investment on different lists.
or just delete your wallet without backups. saves you time and you don't have to use a service full of scammers. My thought exactly. There are two groups of people there: 1) People with bad credit that need the money to pay back existing loans, who obviously won't be able to pay you back because they're in a financial shithole for a reason and 2) Those that claim they're giving ridiculously high interest rates and are credible... but decided it wasn't worth taking a bank loan for a LOWER interest rate because they are afraid they can't pay it back and don't want to be screwed when they run an exit scam |
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Why do so many people feel like it's going to go up? What's new?
What's new compared to..? What is the last news you read? That Max Kaiser had ditched the project and created the thing as a scam. |
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I really don't like it being based on uniques. That kills the point of building more views. I deal with some high-end advertising networks and have never had one that only bases it on uniques. That said, they do analyze where traffic comes from (so people faking traffic would obviously be banned).
Did they say how do they do this? What if I open pages 10 or 50 times, will they ban me even if I was just looking through the site? Which are these "high end" adv. networks, so we know to avoid them lol It's easy to see where traffic comes from. And you won't have to avoid them -- if you don't have a successful site, you won't be approached by them regardless, :p. As for opening a page 10-50x... if the same person is looking at the same 50 pages every single day, that's pretty obvious. If someone comes each day and views 10 different pages, that's normalcy. Anyways, I was just sharing how the real world works. Though I guess things are a bit different if we're in a sub-sector that is sub-par in terms of quality/traffic. Edit: some require ComScore tags to be added, which is an easy way for the network to see traffic data, as well as pass it off to advertisers. |
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It's been a while, but new update today!
*Removed around 15 non-functioning and/or empty faucets
*Added a few more that have been requested via email
As a heads-up, from this point forward, if your faucet has an adblock blocker on it (i.e., you can't claim if you have adblock on), you will NOT be granted admittance to the rotation. This is annoying for myself and visitors, and it's one of the worst changes to come to faucets. As such, I will NOT be supporting it. I'm trying to decide right now if I'll grandfather existing faucets or block them from the rotation as well.
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For CPM campaigns it will just be total unique views. So if say an advertiser buys 10,000 views for your ad space then they will be displayed in that ad space until their unique view count reaches 10,000 - rotated with any other CPM campaigns that are also running in that space. Depending on the publisher it may take 10 minutes or many days for to you reach that unique view count, during which time you will most likely get a significantly higher number of non-unique views too. So I suppose they are really CPUM (cost per unique mile) campaigns rather than CPM Yes, seems that this is the most fair way to calculate it. It's really kind of CPUM, but that's the only fair way to make the campaigns. Looking forward for the next good news I really don't like it being based on uniques. That kills the point of building more views. I deal with some high-end advertising networks and have never had one that only bases it on uniques. That said, they do analyze where traffic comes from (so people faking traffic would obviously be banned). |
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Up again or down to 15k   i think can down for some days  I love this  Buy more when down , and try sell some when high . going to 12-16k it's possible Dont think thats going to happen the price will rise significantly tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest better get them now Why do so many people feel like it's going to go up? What's new? |
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Great Site! I wish the very best for this Service Thanks! I'm going to continue building it out, . Update! 06/21/2015Added [Review] BetterBets Review! Made some style changes to the site for readability. Edited multiple pages to fit in-line with the new styles. Good site I played here since day 2 or 3 all the mods and admins actually listen and chat with you. The site has the fastest dice bot built in I've ever used too I wasn't even aware of it until last night but it is awesome; I think other sites can learn from them, . |
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Thank you Ranlo, glad you enjoyed the site and reviews are always welcome we will keep improving and adding more every month. BetterBets next game is in beta testing now. Any chance I can do a test before it goes live so I can do a preview article? |
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i think the best way to invest your money in real estate,anymore dont put all of your eggs on one basket so spread it another to like bitcoin,altcoin,gold,oil maybe and the other,decision is yours
Real estate is really the best way. I mean, ask all those people in Florida that lost millions in the housing bubble. Oh, and California. Oh, and Hawaii. Oh, and (insert tons of other states here). True, But heck in investments its always a gamble. Some will win and some will lose all investments have some sort of risk, its about getting what edge you can over the long term; a dice site's bankroll for example, should increase over time given the house edge. for this reason, I sometimes tend to put some coin into dice sites, and so far theyve been growing decently well. Keep in mind that: a.) even though dice sites are meant to be profitable in the long run, it's quite possible that a whale could come in and devastate the bankroll in the short term. It happened with nakowa in the case of Just-Dice, for example. b.) there are currently very few (if any) trustworthy dice sites out there that offer an investment option. The only one that is universally considered to be trustworthy by the community is Just-Dice (since Primedice doesn't offer the ability to invest in its bankroll). And even Just-Dice doesn't accept investments in BTC - only CLAMs. Several dice sites that offered investments in the past have collapsed or disappeared with their investors' funds including Dicebitco.in and dice.ninja. In fact, once the risk of the dice site collapsing or disappearing is factored into the calculations, the long term expected rate of return for dice sites as a whole might even be negative. I'd also like to point out another big issue with dice sites that allow investments: some of them are skimming coins. I've dealt with two privately now that had messed up algorithms for deciding what to give investors. One was only giving ~5% of what it should, and the other was decreasing investment amount regardless as to if someone won or lost (i.e., if someone bet 1 mBTC, if they won, it'd decrease bankroll by 1 mBTC. If they lost, it'd still decrease it by 1 mBTC). So even seemingly "okay" investments may not be. |
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i think the best way to invest your money in real estate,anymore dont put all of your eggs on one basket so spread it another to like bitcoin,altcoin,gold,oil maybe and the other,decision is yours
Real estate is really the best way. I mean, ask all those people in Florida that lost millions in the housing bubble. Oh, and California. Oh, and Hawaii. Oh, and (insert tons of other states here). True, But heck in investments its always a gamble. Some will win and some will lose Real estate, however, is absolutely not the "best way" to invest. |
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Update! 06/21/2015Added [Review] BetterBets Review! Made some style changes to the site for readability. Edited multiple pages to fit in-line with the new styles.
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i think the best way to invest your money in real estate,anymore dont put all of your eggs on one basket so spread it another to like bitcoin,altcoin,gold,oil maybe and the other,decision is yours
Real estate is really the best way. I mean, ask all those people in Florida that lost millions in the housing bubble. Oh, and California. Oh, and Hawaii. Oh, and (insert tons of other states here). |
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Confirmed Payouts!
06/20/2015: 0.00410 BTC
06/21/2015: 0.00422 BTC
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