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4561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 03:37:29 AM
Interesting stat: Belgium has a very high divorce rate (70%).

Nothing wrong with divorce.

True, but it won't add years to your life (in most cases) and would not make you richer (on paper) as well.
Guys would be limited in children visitation rights (and, yes, in more than 90% cases children stay with mom).
It's all theoretical, as I never divorced.
4562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 12:50:17 AM
Interesting stat: Belgium has a very high divorce rate (70%).
So, maybe not getting married is not such a bad idea.
Keeps you on your toes.
4563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2019, 12:14:58 AM
The odds of a marriage in the US today lasting for ten years is about 3%.

More like 50% or even 60-70%:
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/01/137440/divorce-rate-in-america-statistics
4564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2019, 12:31:46 AM
Ok I stand corrected.  Hard Brexit date now 12 April.

It might extend all the way to 2020, or not.
Read somewhere that UK loses 1 bil pounds a day on this.
In case of brexit, UK would probably try to become an offshore capital of the world with a focus on EU.
I see a bunch of French and maybe German money relocating there.
4565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 08:32:15 PM

As part of 226 slides presented to the SEC on our ETF filing,....

Causing a surge in p--n watching originating from the demonstration room. /s

In other news:
1. Fiat market celebrated yield curve inversion (and NEGATIVE rate on 10 year German bonds) by crashing a bit less than 2% on the Dow.
2. Blockfi weaseled out (as expected). Not going to bother even to ask them any questions. Irrelevant.
4566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 12:37:43 AM
Scienceguy9489 predicts btc move to 28K.
https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/21/crypto-bitcoin-ethereum-ripple-litecoin/

Interesting charts. It seems that ltc had almost exactly the same chart as BTC, wiggle for wiggle, until it started surging up a few weeks ago.
We are still in a flat more or less.
4567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2019, 12:22:24 AM
A banquet is in progress.
The guests are enjoying an appetizer of raw oysters.
The entrée consist of boiled dog.

dont ask about anyones mother.

darn it...
Trying to elicit a response from someone else here.
4568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2019, 09:26:58 PM
A banquet is in progress.
The guests are enjoying an appetizer of raw oysters.
The entrée consist of boiled dog.


4569  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: March 21, 2019, 08:46:32 PM
4955

Thanks!
4570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer Z11 equihash miner from Bitmain Released - Antminer S17 PRO 2nd GEN on: March 20, 2019, 08:23:14 PM
cheers to those who bought the z9

hope yall never ROI when the z11 comes out

rinse and repeat

I earned my money back on my Z9-Mini within three weeks.
Bought it with LTC and mined on Mining Pool Hub, auto-exchanging back to LTC.  LTC now isn't worth as much in fiat as it was then ($160/LTC) but I did earn back my initial investment, coin-for-coin.  Of course being lucky with a first batch helped.  Anyone ordering a short time later was S.O.L.  Not saying the manufacturer is greatawesomewonderful (I think their marketing practices are borderline criminal), rather highlighting alternative thinking in regards to return on capital.  Mining returns need not always be measured in USDollars.

hmmm I measure mine in USD.  I have....36 Z9 and they have been paid for awhile now. 

Check your "math" again.
No way and no how Z9 (not mini) first batch paid for itself.
4571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer Z11 equihash miner from Bitmain Released - Antminer S17 PRO 2nd GEN on: March 19, 2019, 10:50:42 PM
Is the Z11 already sold out or has it just not started selling yet? At $1242 it's sub 100 day payback, though that's gonna change very quickly once these ship. Also it looks like zcash will fork in Oct? https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/the-final-nu2-blossom-network-upgrade-goals/32449

90% of equihash mining rewards is zcash, if it forks this asic is worthless. There's only 5 months of mining time till the fork.

There will not be 100 day payback or even 300 day payback.
These machines would be unprofitable, unless ZEC goes up 400%, in which case you could just buy ZEC outright.
4572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2019, 10:19:24 PM
It seems like most people don't give much f... about ETFs anymore.
In February, the SEC asked the public to send comment letters... apparently it only received 7, six of which were against the VanEck SolidX ETF.

Here are the 7 letters they received :

https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2019-004/srcboebzx2019004.htm

1. Nobody cares about ETF.
2. Nobody cares about their idiotic never ending procedure.
3. Nobody cares about discussing a subject with morons (aka most of letter writing nincompoops). One even went as far as white paper discussion (in a letter to SEC, lol).
4573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2019, 04:21:41 AM

Sorry, that's August 2017 newspaper.
Still, a good feeling...
4574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2019, 03:18:14 AM
I capitulated today.  Am now 100% cold hodl storage Bitcoin for my crypto portfolio.   No fiat reserves left at all and no open trading positions.  Am completely committed to the bandwagon.  

I have also increased my Bitcoin stack by 58% since 1 December 2017 so good outcome there.

Time will tell if I have moved too early but I believe the risk of any meaningful downside is now gone.  

I am curious. Were you mostly naked short or short-against-the box?
Which platform did you use, if I may ask?
AFAIK, Bitmex is not opened for US.
This is very academic to me since I don't have time to do any real-time trading these days.
4575  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2019, 02:24:24 AM
My btc price trajectory preference between March 16, 2019 and Dec 10, 2021 (1000 days exactly):

An increase of 0.36959% daily, never a decrease, peak at 160K on that ^ day, then flat for 6-12 mo  Grin
Not likely to happen, right? lol

TL;DR
I would so much prefer a flat after a rise instead of too much up and down.

4576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2019, 12:20:54 AM
Who is holding most BTC from WO family?

Probably Theymos.

The question is how much BTC and true HODLERS are in this forum
As real active members...
Is this forum the wealthiest place of the future ?


Yes it is good sir. Soon female Digital Gold diggers from all over the world will be on this forum, hoping to meet a WO man w a few coins in his stash. The idea of a WO member with double or triple digit coins will cause them to faint.

Also many of the actual women in pics posted in past comments will come forward, hoping their image pleased the WO family and looking for available hodlers to meet. Wallet size matters.  Grin

A link to WO-man and his women vid was already posted.
Hint: the one where she asks a guy in something resembling spouse counseling session whether he still invests in crypto and he winces.
That was way more realistic than the other way around.

EDIT: besides, right now, the anti-bitcoin bitmex'ers are probably the wealthiest group.
BTC lost close to $270 bil, hence someone got very rich in 2018-2019 at our collective expense.
I remember seeing some 'shorting' accounts on Bitmex that are worth 20 mil and above.
Oh well, hopefully, it will get reversed in due course.
4577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2019, 12:08:54 AM
Who is holding most BTC from WO family?

Probably Theymos.

Is this forum the wealthiest place of the future ?

Of course, not.
People like Jack Dorsey, Marc Faber, some Silly valley exec (Paplitya? spelling?), Peter Thiel, Tim Draper etc are already converting fiat to btc. It's going to be the same people, sans maybe a thou or two current hodlers back from 2010-2011.
4578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 17, 2019, 07:48:41 PM
Not a very elaborate thought to understand.
however, as mentioned in another post, it is not clear that 23andme allows sample aggregation and 'pseudonyms'.
other than that, an OK idea.

There are other private sequencing firms, not to mention the original, and IMO still the best, Bryan Sykes Oxford Ancestors.

Quote
We follow strict security procedures in the storage and disclosure of information that you have given to us and take all reasonable care to prevent any unauthorised disclosure of your data.

For the purposes of the Data Protection Act 1998, Oxford Ancestors Limited is the data controller.

The information you provide will be kept confidential and used to support your customer relationship with us. We collect personal data only if you choose to provide such information, for example when ordering our goods and services. This will include name and address and may also include email address and credit or debit card details in order that we may collect payment for your order.  

Although we use encrypted security software the security of information and payments transmitted via the Internet cannot be guaranteed. Any losses incurred or sustained by customers who transmit information by means of e-mail or other internet link shall be borne solely and exclusively by the customer and in no event shall any such losses in whole or part by borne by us.

Quite a bit more expensive ~$400 as I recall, but the other options have...umm...other ways of monetizing their activities.

That's an ancestry firm, basically just to establish paternity (whether the father is the "real" father, etc.). it will not provide data on cancer susceptibility, etc.

From what I gathered so far if you want to do the 'whole genome' works, you should ask your doctor to transmit doctor's orders to one of the few centers which do the 'whole genome sequencing'. The caveat in my knowledge so far is how to pay for this work without insurance being involved. I will get this answer sometime next week. The cost with insurance is about $5K with most of it paid by insurance, but, of course, they'll go for it only if such test is needed.
4579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 17, 2019, 07:25:15 PM
My view is that DNA tests are too dangerous and that there are too many factors to control.  Therefore you should never do them.*

I sense a market opportunity for a middleman.

You pay middleman (via Bitcoin, ofc).
You create keypair.
You send bio sample to middleman, along with public key.
Middleman sends your sample to testing facility with no identifying info.
Testing facility sequences your DNA, sends data to middleman.
Middleman encrypts your test result data, makes it publicly available.
You watch for data (rest results) associated with public key, retrieve data, decrypt, use as you see fit.

Results private, as they not traceable to you.




Funny that i thought about it yesterday as well.
However, there is weak link with your description that I outlined in bold.
When you send a sample, it HAS to be sent with identifying info (you register the sample collection kit on their website).

Yes, but it doesn't have to identify _you_. It need only identify the public key you gave middleman.

I guess I just assumed that would be understood without need of explanation.

Not a very elaborate thought to misunderstand.
However, as mentioned in another post, it is not clear that 23andme allows sample aggregation and 'pseudonyms'.
other than that, an OK idea.
EDIT: I checked and it seems that you cannot (no surprise there).
https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202907890-Can-I-be-genotyped-anonymously-
TOS are linked there ^^
Perhaps, there is a legal leeway based on article 6d of the said TOS, but it remains to be seen, especially whether they still need person's real name in the docs.
4580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 17, 2019, 06:19:03 PM
they'd need to produce their photos of you yourself being the driver at those dizzying speeds in order to prosecute you

considering that many people's face opens the phone and that the car (at least some) starts when your phone is present, I could see that possibly happening. Maybe not as a prosecution, but as a "sudden" and "personalized" auto insurance increase. That would be nasty.
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