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461  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
3. Dooglus' calculation of the house edge is incorrect, as it does not take in the 'consolation prize' if you do not win. 0.5% of your bet is returned when you lose. However, since our house edge is 1.65%, it is clear that it isn't the lowest worldwide and we'll have to look into a.) the person that wrote the content for the About Me page and b.) any more mistakes that could have been made such as this. Thanks for pointing it out.

I don't see any mention of this 0.5% refund. Where can I find it?

Under "How to Play" I see:

Quote
What is the house edge for BetCoin ™ Dice?

The house advantage is 1.88% for all games except < 1, wherein the house edge is 1.838%.

That is different than the 1.65% you claim in the post I'm replying to.

If you pay 1.9574x for a win at 50% and 0.005x for a loss, the house edge is 100 - 1.9574 * 50 - 0.005 * 50 = 1.88%

4. The bonus info is super clear on the website - we aren't trying to hide anything and there have been people that have unlocked it. There was one recently that cashed out 5 BTC (though he was promptly called a shill). 888x rollover requirement and you can withdraw the original bonus amount. If you're playing games that have super high odds (95%+) and betting high to try and unlock it, the amount applied to the rollover requirement is reduced.

It's clear, but it's such poor value I wondered if it might be incorrect. Players would be much better off refusing this "bonus" than to have their winnings limited by those terms.

Please let us know if we missed something.

You completely skipped my last question about security and 2FA.

The bonus isn't worthless. It is to test out the provably fair system and try your luck at unlocking an enormous amount of money without having to make a single deposit. Just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it's worthless. Even a lottery ticket costs a dollar.

About 1/1000 people unlock the bonus, and about 1/10 of those do it without creating multiple accounts. That's good odds when you consider it is a free shot at winning that sum of money. As I said, there was a guy that recently did it and cashed out over 2,000 USD, so I'm not sure I agree with you on that point.

AFAIK, the house edge is and has always been 1.65% for BetCoin Circle, which is our most popular game. The house advantage of Dice is 1.88%, as you said. I'm not trying to withhold information from you I am simply used to people asking about Circle, not Dice. Apologies.

We have 2FA.
462  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 06:59:57 PM
I leave your twitter campaign, i didn't see the pinned tweet requirement when i joined the campaign, sorry.



You were still paid since that rule changed in the middle. You can stay in unless you can't pin a tweet.

I know that yours is the best paying twitter campaign, but i don't want to loose the other campaing. I can accept half-price reward without the pinned tweet. If you don't accept i quit this campaign, no problem.
Thanks.

How long until your other campaign is done. Wouldn't it make more sense to accept half price from the lower paying campaign?
463  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 06:42:24 PM
so the poker client is currently down? or only those who use vpn cant access?

It is only for those who use VPN as OP said, it is good to avoid multi-account players to cheat on the freeroll but it is not good to players who only able to open the site with VPN.


you can opened poker games? i also do not use VPN
but i can't access it. i think any problem, i've been mozilla and crome browser. but still can't open the poker games.

I use chrome and had no problems today, no vpn as well

ooo.. i see, this defends on the internet providers used
because, you can open it. but i dont and i do not use vpn. this a problem is at the internet provider.

yeah i think you might be right

There is also a lock on Poker if you have multiple accounts. We're not saying that everyone does this out of malicious intent, but the fact is we can't risk it for our regular players. If you're having problems, contact support on the website or send an email to support@betcoin.tm and we'll check out your account to see the issue.

I'm using the account which you gave when there was 0.01 giveaway some time ago. I think I have another account before but never use it and lost the password and the username as well. Do I included to those who use multi account?
My username that u gave : roboticsfilms Hope you check it too. thanks

We actually manually unlocked those types of accounts (though I see you somehow claimed two, but that's not relevant). It looks like you were locked from poker because your IP is from a VPN. We're doing some updates now and will post here.
464  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 06:19:40 PM
How long withdrawal in the confirmation ?
I request withdrawal of about 5 hours ago until now I have not received bitcoin.
Do I have to wait max 24 hours ?

Afaik they do manual withdraw especially for new account to check that everything is OK, and it is Sunday so maybe they are not online atm.  I have no issue in withdrawal in the last few days, so just be patient and wait.

Yes you are right I am using a new account I will follow your instructions wait CS online
Thank you for this info

Update !!!
I've received a withdrawal  thank you betcoin.tm for free  Wink
for new users withdrawal  will be sent after the of verifying address I hope this helps

DM me about your Twitter participation, please. Not sure what happened there.
465  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 06:12:27 PM
Hi, please let me join?

Betcoin username: vilaincoin
Twitter:https://twitter.com/El_bitcoin
Crypto account
1,600 + Followers

thanks


hello? sir? could you answer me? thanks!


OK you're in. Please make sure to follow the requirements.
466  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
well i see, there are 3 slot empty on the first page

i want to join with this one :

Twitter : @bitcoin_nd
follower : 1600+
Betcoin.tm Account : chooseit

OK you're in.
467  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 06:08:16 PM
Can i Joining this campaign please
Twitter account : https://twitter.com/build_incom
Betcoin username : nejibens


Can you replace your pinned tweet with ours?
468  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 06:06:54 PM
nice campaign , im join

twitter account : @epicaguitarmade
link post : https://twitter.com/Epicaguitarmade/status/678537754372939776
username on betcoin.tm : mamansuherman

Your audit score is too low to really qualify. If you spruce up your followers I can allow you to join, though, since I have seen your username several times on the site.
469  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 05:59:12 PM
can I join?


https://twitter.com/sharkdown12

betcoin username: sizal


crypto accounts

Ok, you're on.
470  Economy / Services / Re: BetCoin.TM Twitter Campaign - Earn up to 0.13 BTC Per Month! on: December 21, 2015, 05:56:52 PM
I leave your twitter campaign, i didn't see the pinned tweet requirement when i joined the campaign, sorry.



You were still paid since that rule changed in the middle. You can stay in unless you can't pin a tweet.

That's the reason why I was inactive in your campaign (currently enrolled in a different campaign so I couldn't pin the tweet). Would you allow me to rejoin without a pinned tweet? I am very active on Twitter and have a lot of crypto followers. I was one of the first to join your campaign.

When is your luckybit campaign finished? Will you settle with a reduced amount?

I am not planning on leaving the LB campaign. I joined it when it started. I guess a reduced payment would be ok.

My twitter: www.twitter.com/BTCRevoIution
Followers: 3,062

What would be my weekly payment?

0.0175, if that's ok.
471  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
so the poker client is currently down? or only those who use vpn cant access?

It is only for those who use VPN as OP said, it is good to avoid multi-account players to cheat on the freeroll but it is not good to players who only able to open the site with VPN.


you can opened poker games? i also do not use VPN
but i can't access it. i think any problem, i've been mozilla and crome browser. but still can't open the poker games.

I use chrome and had no problems today, no vpn as well

ooo.. i see, this defends on the internet providers used
because, you can open it. but i dont and i do not use vpn. this a problem is at the internet provider.

yeah i think you might be right

There is also a lock on Poker if you have multiple accounts. We're not saying that everyone does this out of malicious intent, but the fact is we can't risk it for our regular players. If you're having problems, contact support on the website or send an email to support@betcoin.tm and we'll check out your account to see the issue.
472  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 05:15:07 PM
so the poker client is currently down? or only those who use vpn cant access?

It is only for those who use VPN as OP said, it is good to avoid multi-account players to cheat on the freeroll but it is not good to players who only able to open the site with VPN.


They can access literally any other part of the site - but in our current view, poker and VPN's do not a merry couple make. We are seeing some complaints that people that aren't using a VPN can't access poker and are fixing this as we speak.
473  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 05:04:06 PM
This casino blackjack is set up wrong.

In rules dealer must hit Soft 17.

Dealer does not know true meaning of soft 17.

If Dealer is hitting for example 16 Ten + Six and receive an Ace for its next card the dealer will draw again. This is not definition of soft 17. This is dealer hitting a hard 17. I'm not sure if is advantage for player or house because dealer will bust many time hitting hard 17 but time against me dealer hit the hard 17 to 21 and beat my 20.

Hitting soft 17 increases the house edge.

Hitting hard 17 decreases the house edge, but is almost certainly a bug, so maybe they'll use it as an excuse not to pay you if you win from it. It sounds like the game is coded to treat any 17 containing an ace as a soft 17. It would presumably hit like this: A6 -> A6T -> A6TT bust.

This clearly needs to be addressed before it is used to avoid paying out winners.


If there is a game error, we won't pay out winnings, but we always return deposits and winnings on games that are unaffected. In this case since it's a minor logic error, I don't see a reason to enforce this rule, as there is no 'game error' in the true sense of the word to be seen - it's improper execution on our end and we wouldn't use that against our players.

I realize you said you love us in your comment but this response was a bit disheartening.
474  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 04:55:23 PM
U PMed that u would like to give me 0.01 bonus to try your site

Sure, what's your username?

Apologies that we dropped the ball on that. I'll take care of it for you right now.
475  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: One Bet. One Shot. Test your luck for up to 99% cashback. 15 Player Exlusive on: December 21, 2015, 04:54:05 PM
Hello betcointm
Ive just make this spin and since it can cashback i deposited for 0.011 Grin
And guess what. Ive hit 25x wooot.

But how to post proof here.
Edited: https://www.betcoin.tm/circle/history/details/5675ffb0dccbe10d0057fd4f


Did you receive your cashout yet? Congrats again!
476  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Tell us your BetCoin.TM Win for a chance to win +10%! on: December 21, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
Hi BetcoinTm the "cash race" are closed now?



What is the cash race?? Sounds exciting but I'm not sure to which promo you're referring.
477  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Betcoin.tm 4 real? on: December 21, 2015, 04:49:59 PM
can you post the link of your official thread?

thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.0

Thanks for letting me know to do that.
478  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: December 21, 2015, 04:46:19 PM
Regarding Poker & Other Concerns

Sorry for the problems you all are facing. Right now we are implementing some important security updates to the poker system that may have created some problems.

1. We are implementing VPN blocks for poker. This policy may change, but it may not. VPNs make it much easier for people to try to circumvent the rules and collude while playing. We are in the business of giving you a fun, safe place to play poker against other users. There will be a way for you to be whitelisted in the future, but for now we aren't accepting VPN use. If you have multiple accounts, you WILL be banned from poker if any of the other accounts attempt to play - and we WILL confiscate those winnings and apply them to our weekly 1 BTC freeroll to sweeten the deal for those who are not cheating.

2. Regarding blackjack - looks like you found a mistake, and you'll get a nice 'bug bonus'. We'll be changing BlackJack, but we're not going to stop any of your cashouts. This is our mistake and you shouldn't be punished for finding, and you certainly should be rewarded for pointing it out.

3. Dooglus' calculation of the house edge is incorrect, as it does not take in the 'consolation prize' if you do not win. 0.5% of your bet is returned when you lose. However, since our house edge is 1.65%, it is clear that it isn't the lowest worldwide and we'll have to look into a.) the person that wrote the content for the About Me page and b.) any more mistakes that could have been made such as this. Thanks for pointing it out.

4. The bonus info is super clear on the website - we aren't trying to hide anything and there have been people that have unlocked it. There was one recently that cashed out 5 BTC (though he was promptly called a shill). 888x rollover requirement and you can withdraw the original bonus amount. If you're playing games that have super high odds (95%+) and betting high to try and unlock it, the amount applied to the rollover requirement is reduced.

Please let us know if we missed something.
479  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Betcoin.tm 4 real? on: December 21, 2015, 04:36:08 PM
anyone else having the same error when trying to go to the poker lobby? it says "service unavailable"

Check our official thread for an update in about one minute.
480  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Betcoin.tm 4 real? on: December 21, 2015, 04:35:46 PM
Provable fair....

Provably fair means that you can verify the outcome of every one of those games. If any third parties would like to go in to test our system to verify that it works properly - feel free to post your results here.
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