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461  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 19, 2018, 11:07:21 AM
OP, Its all well and good making a list like this, the reality is though its not going to change.

Like anything in life you have to be in the right place at the right time. These guys were here before you so thats just the way it is. We don't have to agree, but you have to be realistic and accept that they were here before you and before the rule change so if it was fair then, its fair now.

Nobody is keeping you here and nobody is stopping you from leaving.

The fact that you dont have any Merit tells its own story. You are here simply for money/bounties etc and dont want to participate until you want to moan about the system. Only one person can make a change and thats you.

Again...
I'm not complaining because those users were lucky enough to be here before me. I'm saying that there's a problem with sources and even a bigger one with local sources.
I'm in this forum to do translations and earn tokens.. so what? (also nice signature you have there) my tasks are even harder than posting shit around the forum to earn points. Doesn't matter how professional my translations are, i will NEVER receive merit because there are no sources.

And the funniest thing is that i want merit only to wear a goddamn avatar.  Grin
462  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 19, 2018, 10:48:13 AM

I've just sent you my remaining one sMerit to give for quality posters. It's nice to know that even you had noticed that we still need more Merit Sources and I do agree with that as well. Actually, I have seen a lot of good posts lately but since I don't have enough merits to give, I just gave a few of them as I'm saving my sMerits for those members who will need it a lot (Although you didn't need my last Merit, I still gave it to you  Tongue). It only shows that sources are not enough and it is still difficult for them to locate those quality posts.
 they should improve their selves. They are only making a single thread where they can possibly receive Merits and then continue spamming again.



So you switched sides in 1 day after attacking me for saying the same thing? I guess you needed a Legendary member to say that uh?
You're a funny guy  Grin

Merit System doesn't need any improvements,

84 sources for 2 mln users is simply ridiculous. it's like 0.0042%... not even real society is that bad
No it's not, actually it's pretty Fair. You know why? Because out of those 2 million users, there is only about 5 to 10% (I guess) who are quality posters and deserves to get Merits. If it's too exaggerated, then make it 15% or whatever you like but my main point is, over 70% of users here in Bitcointalk doesn't deserve Merits as they only make post to earn money and those posts they make are totally trash. So what are you complaining about? Don't even say that Merit Sources are not doing their responsibility just because they only distribute merit to a few number of people because, can we blame them if they can't find many quality posters?
463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥CONNECTY🔥 The blockchain of knowledge and innovation on: August 19, 2018, 08:59:07 AM
@juiced resolved the fourth riddle on telegram
For more details on his research work I let you read (Telegram/Discord/Facebook)

To summarize the answer to the fourth riddle.
We had in the fisrt hint the x-rays that revolutionized the medical field discovered by Wilhelm Röntgen.
The hexadecimal points to this link bit.ly/eFf3c. Link that shows us, the Doppler effect in practice. Discovered by Christian Doppler.
Third hint was a password locked archive hidden on our website. The password was as follows: RontgenDoppler
Once this archive opened it let appear an image of the constelation of the Cignus with surrounded in red the zone where it finds Cignus X 1 (the space is great excused for the lack of precision).

Cignux X 1 is a black hole discovered by a group of researchers (Charles Thomas Bolton). To discover it they observed a strong emanation of x-ray around a star. That emanation didn't make sense. Doppler technology and light variations proved that this star turned in a few days around something then unobservable emanating a lot of x-rays. This is the first time that the existence of a black hole has been proven. Until then it was a hypothetical phenomenon.
The meaning 1 + 1 = 3 : x-ray + doppler = proof of the existence of a black hole !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_X-1

Juiced you win 9000 CTY + 2*1000 CTY = 11000 CTY for the two hint you shared with the comunity
Congratulations again on your research work. Stay tuned for the next riddle.

Congratulations to @juiced
The riddle was cicada 3301 level  Cheesy



 Grin Grin
464  Local / Annunci / Re: 🌎 ➤【ANN】【ICO】QUASA █ PIATTAFORMA BLOCKCHAIN - LOGISTICA 2.0 █ MVP on: August 18, 2018, 05:01:32 PM


Il ruolo chiave della Blockchain

Secondo il CEO di QUASA Slava Vasipenok, l'efficienza non è il vero punto di forza
 della Blockchain per l'industria logistica. Molte altre opzioni al di fuori della Blockchain
sono in grado di fornire sistemi più efficienti. La Blockchain offre tuttavia la possibilità
di "rendere i sistemi più trasparenti, più solidi e meno dipendenti dagli intermediari".

Quando si verifica un cambio di proprietà, il monitoraggio di queste informazioni
diventa un problema in quanto si riferisce alla catena di custodia.
Un esempio di questo è come viene tracciata la storia di un'auto.

È molto importante sapere se un'auto è stata in un incidente grave e se ha danni strutturali.
Se ci fosse un registro immutabile e accessibile che tenga traccia della storia delle auto,
non ci sarebbe alcun modo per un commerciante di auto vendere una vettura che era stata estremamente danneggiata.


Partecipa ora all’ICO di QUASA e ottieni un bonus enorme del 33,33%!
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465  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN+BOUNTY][ICO]🔥CONNECTY🔥La Blockchain della Conoscenza e dell'Innovazione on: August 18, 2018, 04:52:24 PM
Ora è disponibile il quarto indovinello di Connecty.



Vinci 9000 CTY se lo si risolvi da solo, 19000 in due e 30000 in tre partecipanti

Suggerimento 2: 6269742e6c792f6546663363

Suggerimento 3: Nessun carattere accentato.

In bocca al lupo !
466  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN][PreICO][REF]⚠️Bitmillex - La Piattaforma Crypto di Prossima Generazione 🚀 on: August 18, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
MVP DISPONIBILE

PROVA ORA LA PIATTAFORMA!



https://exchange.bitmillex.com/
467  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN ICO PRESALE] 🔥 GSC Aviation 🔥 - Soluzione per l’Industria Aeronautica on: August 18, 2018, 04:30:06 PM
GSC Aviation su thecoinshark.net

GSC Aviation si presenta con una soluzione rivoluzionaria per le catene di approvvigionamento dell'aviazione




GSC Aviation (acronimo di Genesis Supply Chain) è una piattaforma sviluppata in Francia,
il cui obiettivo principale è quello di aggiornare il sistema delle catene di approvvigionamento
nel settore dell'aviazione e, in seguito, dell'industria automobilistica e ferroviaria.

La gestione della catena di approvvigionamento dell'aviazione è attualmente in cattive condizioni:
è lenta, costosa, non protetta e suscettibile di errori.
La maggior parte di questi problemi sono causati dal fatto che i processi più importanti vengono
gestiti manualmente e le persone, a differenza delle macchine, commettono errori.

Detto questo, il minimo errore in un settore come quello dell'aviazione può costare non solo perdite finanziarie,
ma anche la vita delle persone. L'industria ha disperatamente bisogno di un aggiornamento e
di una transizione verso tecnologie innovative - questo è ciò per cui è stata creata la GSC Aviation.


Continua a leggere su..
https://thecoinshark.net/gsc-aviation-comes-up-with-a-revolutionary-solution-for-aviation-supply-chains/
468  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY] VIARIUM - LA PRIMA PIATTAFORMA VR PER NEGOZI SULLA BLOCKCHAIN on: August 18, 2018, 10:59:07 AM

Viarium ha un nuovo consulente!
Siamo lieti di presentarvi Anastasia Miron!




Il nostro team diventa sempre più grande e più forte!

Anastasia Miron ci porta una grande esperienza nella creazione di start-up
e aziende di successo, dal VR al settore dell’Educazione.


Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasiamiron/

Leggi di più su...
https://medium.com/@viarium.io/viarium-have-new-adviser-we-are-happy-to-introduce-you-anastasia-miron-ef1e76619fa1


469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW THREAD][BOUNTY] Viarium - DECENTRALIZED VR WORLD FOR REAL LIFE AND BUSINESS on: August 18, 2018, 10:43:35 AM
Italian Translation

Whitepaper V2 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FMKY7sI5L_oWVlEPM-EoMqicHqW0Me8_/view?usp=sharing
470  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY] VIARIUM - LA PRIMA PIATTAFORMA VR PER NEGOZI SULLA BLOCKCHAIN on: August 18, 2018, 10:41:29 AM
AGGIUNTO WHITEPAPER V.2 ITA
471  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
I don't need merit, i'm proud to be a Copper Member since day 1
Ofcourse you do need one mate, this is the only proof that you're not here to spam the entire forum unless it is that you've been doing.  It is a proof that you're quality poster.

And also you need one to rank up. Nobody here just want to be stuck with their ranks forever? If someone else does they're shitposters and in fact they will never rank up.

I want more sources, especially for local sections. This user is correctly asking to be a french source and being ignored since february . is it right? its the merit system perfect??? i don't think so.


84 sources for 2 mln users is simply ridiculous. it's like 0.0042%... not even real society is that bad
472  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
which is even a better indicator that the merit system need improvements. and by that I mean more merit sources.
there are only 84 merit sources for over 2mln users.
Merit System doesn't need any improvements, actually these accounts you've provided are perfect proof that the Merit System is working according to plan. They doesn't receive any Merits yet because they don't make any good and quality post/threads just like you IMHO. At first, I thought reading this thread is something that will catch my interest but reading furthermore, it's just a thread complaining about Merit, the difference is you've just added some information that will cover your real objective, and it is to complain.

I'm not underestimating users who can't receive Merits, because I still believe that by just improving themselves a little, they will surely start to gain Merits like other members. The only problem is they don't care about the quality of posts, so the Merit will still stay away from them.

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I will remove the users as soon as they gain 5% Merit from the screenshoot.
How about lock this thread if you don't receive at least 2 Merits within 48 hours? Smiley
Quote
If anyone want to contribute please do  Grin
Wishing you luck to find someone who will be interested to help you complain about Merit System.

Everything can be improved.  I'm just showing facts and looking for improvements.  You can say that the current numbers are too small, but this is the reality of this forum.
I believe in decentralization, this forum is just the opposite. pretty sad oligarchy.

I don't want merit, i'm proud to be a Copper Member since day 1
I want more sources, especially for local sections. This user is correctly asking to be a french source and being ignored. is it right? its the merit system perfect??? i don't think so.


84 sources for 2 mln users is simply ridiculous. it's like 0.0042%... not even real society is that bad
473  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Wow, such analysis, much wow. I think it's shows that Merit system really works. You analysed one spammy thread. And these users got only airdroped Merits according to their rank, they didn't managed to earn any real Merits in 7 months. Why they didn't earned? Because they are making low quality posts  in spam megathreads. Why someone should Merit their posts? I would predict that mostly of these users still don't even know that Merit system exists because they haven't spent any of their sMerit. Shortly, these users not deserved to rank up. They didn't got Merit not because it's too difficult to earn it, they didn't got it because they are spammers.

Hello dear shiba  Grin
I didn't track their messages on other threads so i can't comment.
Please link me a better thread to analyze. Possibly with no more than 10 pages  Grin




There's a ton of people complaining that they make quality post and not getting merit.

I've underlined the part of the statement that I agree with. The rest I don't agree with.

Show me the quality posts that deserve merit and didn't get it.

and meet my criteria:

I'm not a merit source but my meriting criteria is:

1) I avoid meriting posts that talk about merit (exceptions are occasionally made).
2) I check poster history for regular bounty or advertising shitposts. (Merit is to reduce low quality posts)
3) Is the post of sufficient quality to deserve merit ? Funny, unique, informative, helpful and well intended ? (not merit begging)


The people who want merit generally are the ones that shitpost in bounties.

It is not hard to earn merit. You only have to make a couple of good posts that keep on getting merit.

Satoshi is an example of where a user doesn't even have to log onto the forum for years and still get merit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat



Here(in the threads linked in) you can find some examples
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832127.0
474  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 17, 2018, 10:08:15 AM

Hail the movement of decentralisation.  Roll Eyes

That's what i'm saying. Ripple is more decentralized than this forum  Grin Grin
475  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 09:55:08 AM
1. How are you different from these people, except that you registered late and did not have time to fill enough activity?

2. Why keep track of users who last visited the forum in April?


Last Active:   April 14, 2018, 04:59:21 AM

3. I would understand if you posted links to accounts that received exactly 100 Merit or exactly 250 Merit (not airdrop, but from other users), and then for a long time did not earn any 1 Merit. Perhaps it would be interesting...



I simply opened the first thread in Bitcoin Discussion and tracked the perfect scores.
I'm not saying that they BOUGHT merit. i'm saying that most of the high ranked members in that thread didn't earn a single merit in 7 months. so there's a problem with the difficulty of earning merits.  








I'm not saying that they must have earned merits in that discussion. i'm saying that they didn't earn a single merit in all their post in 7 months.







No we don't need morer merit sources, we need better posters, and an easier way to find them. More merit sources is unlikely to increase the number of members receiving merits, but it could mean that the existing good posters receive more merits.

I'm having to make some broad brush decisions to reduce the time I spend looking for decent posts. For example, anyone who uses all capitals in a thread title goes straight on ignore, and the thread never gets opened again by me. It's a pretty general statement, but in my opinion, anyone who uses all capitals is juvenile, and is unlikely to have anything interesting to say.
I respect your opinion but i disagree. More merit sources will inevitably increase the merit distribution.
There's a ton of people complaining that they make quality post and not getting merit. there are even users that open threads just to share their merit with these people.







Edit: Ok, I understood from a post of your's in another thread what you ment: Those users have not gained any merit since the airdrop. There are tens of thousands of these cases, so why focus on a few ?

Because i wanted to make a small statistic on a random thread. i don't have time to track thousands of people  Grin
And that statistic confirmed that is very hard to earn merits even for high ranked users.
476  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 09:49:53 AM
which is even a better indicator that the merit system need improvements. and by that I mean more merit sources.
You just prove to us that this thread is also one of the trash thread that complain about the merit system.

They are so lucky you are right, but there's nothing we can do about that, the system is already implemented that way.

I'm going to track only Full Members and above, checking 1 random thread every day and keeping some stats.
If anyone want to contribute please do  Grin

Why you only track those high members that dont get the merit system since the implementation? Why dont track all the users already registered before the system?

Is that because it Includes you to the list that REGISTERED MEMBERS BEFORE THE MERIT SYSTEM WHO DONT MANAGE TO GET EVEN 1 MERIT SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION?

There is no difference between you and those on your list aside from they are luckier than you or even us because they already here for a long time and I think its a fair reward for their existence in the forum before the merit system.

I said several times that the merit system is a good idea but needs improvements.
Why i tracked only high members? because there were too many users with 10 of merit so i decided to only track 100 250 and 500.

I registrated like 2 weeks before the merit system, i didn't get merits because the majority of my posting are italian translations in the local section and there's simply no source in there.
i have no problem with those high ranked users that haven't earned merit. they are simply proof that is way to hard to get merit.
477  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 17, 2018, 09:35:54 AM
If it is true all the Legendary members should have earned more merits than all other members.

This is where you are wrong. The rich gets richer can also be validated if you make it extremely hard for the others to reach your rank. Doesn't mean that the Legendary members receive more merits.
the outcome is the same.


When I am looking to your post history it is more obvious why that you're not getting any merits. Almost all the posts that you have posted were in ANN threads. I think it's better to avoid those threads if you're really want to earn merits and contribute to other members by sharing your knowledge and post your suggestions for valuable discussions. After making so many posts in ANN threads then you're trying to blame the system by posting here and also making a thread in Meta too. I think you and you only to be blamed rather than the system.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Is true that most of my posting is in ANNS, simply because i'm a translator. I don't care to earn merits so i can get a better signature. I never join signature campaigns.
But i admit i would love to have the privilege to earn an avatar  Grin Grin

The post that i made shows that the majority of high ranked members have a perfect merit score, thanks to distribution, and that most of them didn't earn a single merit point in 7 months.
that's the problem. Is way too hard to earn merit, maintening the status quo of who is high ranked with an airdrop.
478  Other / Meta / Re: [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 09:07:03 AM
I feel like some most of the users on that list, have the amount of merit that was airdropped. IIrc we are 200 activity in from when merit was introduced.
 
So a senior member with anything over 450 for activity and 250 likely hasn't received a merit but had reached the rank prior to the system.

Maybe I misunderstand what you are calling out here.

Probably that's the case, which brings us to another interesting statistic from that topic.

20 full members or above have a perfect score
7 have a perfect score+1
8 have a diversified score

it means that in 7 months(the merit system was integrated in january) most of the high ranked members that posted in that thread didn't managed to earn 1 SINGLE merit.
which is even a better indicator that the merit system need improvements. and by that I mean more merit sources.
there are only 84 merit sources for over 2mln users.
479  Other / Meta / [THE LUCKY LIST] Just the right amount of MERIT on: August 17, 2018, 04:09:07 AM
EDIT: This post is not about the trade of merit nor i'm accusing theese members.
This only shows that the majority of high ranked members have a perfect merit score, thanks to distribution, and that most of them didn't earn a single merit point in 7 months in the whole forum.
that's the problem. Is way too hard to earn merit, maintening the status quo of who is high ranked with an airdrop.


So I noticed that a lot of accounts in here are so lucky to have just the right amount of Merit for their rank.
Let's make a list  Grin
I will remove the users as soon as they gain 5% Merit from the screenshoot.
Shouldn't be hard to earn that 5% if the merit system works, right? Smiley

I'm going to track only Full Members and above, checking 1 random thread every day and keeping some stats.
If anyone want to contribute please do  Grin


Thread Analyzed: Ethereum Vs Bitcoin
Number of posts: 106
Lucky posters: 20 (18.86%)

20 full members or above have a perfect score
7 have a perfect score+1
8 have a diversified score

it means that in 7 months(the merit system was integrated in january) most of the high ranked members that posted in that thread didn't managed to earn 1 SINGLE merit.
which is even a better indicator that the merit system need improvements. and by that I mean more merit sources.
there are only 84 merit sources for over 2mln users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1187917


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1002351


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1026769


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23970


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052347


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=932978


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=380896


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994347


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=561007


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041898


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=549786


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1029932


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1118451


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721609


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201779


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190694


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=330283


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816901


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362227


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1005212
480  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 17, 2018, 03:23:42 AM
I also think that the merit system is good in theory but can be improved.
For example in the local sections there are very few merit sources.

There are 84 merit for sources with a total merit generation of up to 19500 sMerit per 30 days

84 sources for 2 mln users.

it's true that bitcointalk is now a mirror of society where the richer get richer, but shouldn't we be used to this already?  
If you can live in the real world you can accept the merit system Grin
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