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461  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 21.49ct sapphire with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 26, 2018, 11:22:11 PM
auction closed
462  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] white gold bracelet with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 26, 2018, 11:21:33 PM
auction closed
463  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 3.55ct topaz ring with IGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 26, 2018, 11:21:06 PM
auction closed
464  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 3.55ct topaz ring with IGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 25, 2018, 05:04:40 PM
Some pictures about the topaz ring:



465  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] white gold bracelet with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 25, 2018, 04:45:23 PM
And the whole bracelet:
466  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] white gold bracelet with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 25, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
Somebody asked a zoom on the gem's and the bracelet - to see details. Please:
467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which is the best Cryptocurrency to invest 2018? on: October 15, 2018, 07:06:17 PM
FYI

Just to consider a thing. This structure, we building, isn't centralised as i.e. Tether USD. Or Ripple - XRP. Cheesy
It not just a simple "peg", with thin air, as BitShares...
You can own here diamonds i.e.

I see many trader loosed the control about the market - they loosing a "stable" background with Tether USD, as it loosing USD peg at this time.

Charm planned to be stable. We have algorythm to do it. I think, Charm will have a good use - also for Trader's, if they (after some years maybe) coming back to the crypto market...

You are able at this time, to take your seats in our "plane". ICO is behind us, but you can buy, establish Cell's at this time - through our INOV...


DAG: IOTA (works already?) and Byteball (works already). More maybe?

We defining a P2P backed money on the Byteball Ledger. Please consider our INOV at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46458206#msg46458206

the auctions at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46256059#msg46256059


468  Economy / Economics / Re: Where should we focus this year? on: October 15, 2018, 07:00:49 PM
FYI

Just to consider a thing. This structure, we building, isn't centralised as i.e. Tether USD. Or Ripple - XRP. Cheesy
It not just a simple "peg", with thin air, as BitShares...
You can own here diamonds i.e.

I see many trader loosed the control about the market - they loosing a "stable" background with Tether USD, as it loosing USD peg at this time.

Charm planned to be stable. We have algorythm to do it. I think, Charm will have a good use - also for Trader's, if they (after some years maybe) coming back to the crypto market...

You are able at this time, to take your seats in our "plane". ICO is behind us, but you can buy, establish Cell's at this time - through our INOV...


DAG: IOTA (works already?) and Byteball (works already). More maybe?

We defining a P2P backed money on the Byteball Ledger. Please consider our INOV at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46458206#msg46458206

the auctions at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46256059#msg46256059


469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann][Charm][ICO] Dorothyum, Charm, Toto and Emerald on the Byteball - dev by Oz on: October 13, 2018, 02:13:23 PM
OK. I'm not that interested in altcoin projects about valuables to be honest, but I am a supporter of Byteball so by default I would really be interested to see a project working on DAG specifically Byteball, which I support (and not IOTA, which I don't support).

I'm still trying to understand the concept though. I saw one of the auctions closed without a bid, so I think people also need to understand it more. Why would I want to bid for a share of an emerald, esp when starting is at 0.5 BTC? Could you help explain?

I'm sorry, I'm traveling... A little late, but here is the answer:

Many thanks for you - for interesse about our project on Byteball Ledger. Many thanks for your work to understand it. Just ask questions, it is good for me also, to see, what was not good written, what was not enough detailed.

I stopped this two auctions, because of lack of any interesse. I got this two jewerlies, and started a trip around europe, to get some money for our development. The remained auctions has also no interesse - but it isn´t because price, I think, it is because this project is very unique, nobody knows, what will be happens, how can somebody invest in, when and what a profit will be made.

I think for this emerald 0.5 bitcoin a good price. Just consider the option - to build a cell.

Later Dorothyum will produce profit.
Every Cell will have a Stake in Dorothyum. Every Cell will be honored because this Stake.
At the beginning Charm is cheap. i.e.:

(some valuables before the emerald i.e.: 150000 USD)
divided by 1 000 000 000.

0.00015 USD (a ~hunderst of a cent)

The emerald has a value (~3100 USD) - it is possible to back some Charm with this emerald. 3100 USD / 0.00015 USD = 21 000 000 pieces of Charm. But at this time the price of Charm is fixed to Byteball - more cheaper, as before in this bear-market. We waiting for the first trades...
And the "Cell Value" is a decision of cell members at this time. We used above 40 000 000 Charm as Cell Value i.e.

Later it will be added many valuables.
Later will be Charm more expensive. Because more valuables behind. The emerald and then valuables more as 10 000 000 USD i.e.

If it will be offered a new emerald - Charm will have a bigger price:

((some valuables before the emerald i.e.: 150000 USD) +
(the value of the first emerald i.e. 3100 USD) +
10 000 000 USD)
divided by 1 000 000 000.

It is ~1 cent. (0.0101531)

If we take a new emerald with same value (3100 USD), and we made a new cell - the Cell Value will be more smaller. 3100 USD / 0.010531 = 300 000 Charm

The first Cell will be earn more as the second Cell (the base is the Cell Value for every Cell):
40 000 000 / 300 000 = ~133 x more. In percents: 13300 % more !

On an effective market a such attribute will be rewarded...... But it is a start of the market - no such reward will be made - I think. But later...
Comments, questions are welcome.
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] The start of the "Curtly" developer club on: October 09, 2018, 05:48:37 AM
Booking Indonesian translation Wink

...

Indonesian translation the new thread? Maybe agains a jewerly?
What do you think about?
471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] The start of the "Curtly" developer club on: October 09, 2018, 05:46:24 AM
The try of create a new concept of the blockchain was interresting - thank you your contribution. We changing our way - we have a set of ideas - we start a new project to implement they.

Just to see it, the new announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.0
472  Economy / Economics / Re: Where should we focus this year? on: October 09, 2018, 02:09:15 AM
DAG: IOTA (works already?) and Byteball (works already). More maybe?

We defining a P2P backed money on the Byteball Ledger. Please consider our INOV at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46458206#msg46458206

the auctions at this time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.msg46256059#msg46256059


473  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 2.32ct emerald with IGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorotyum on: October 09, 2018, 01:50:26 AM
No bid. Good. I understand. Nobody would like take such a share. This auction was closed with this post.
474  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] unique Diamond ring with GIA cer.tificate, option for a SHARE in Dorotyum on: October 09, 2018, 01:48:46 AM
No bid. Good. I understand. Nobody would like take such a share. This auction was closed with this post.
475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your opinion about the decline in BTC prices in 2018 on: October 08, 2018, 01:09:47 PM
I think the decline is a good opportunity to buy and accumulate.



Yes, I do it through i.e. auctions on this forum... please see my posts:

A list about on the bitcointalk started auctions to build a cell...

Unique diamond ring with GIA certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039444.0
2.32ct emerald with IGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5041290.0
White gold bracelet with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044132.0
3.55ct topaz ring with IGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044127.0
21.49ct sapphire with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045595.0
21.15ct quartz with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045588.0
23.24ct amethyst with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045544.0
10.13ct amethyst with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045543.0
8.55ct amethyst with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045542.0
7.26ct amethyst with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045539.0

476  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Magyar (Hungarian) on: October 08, 2018, 01:04:23 PM
Az angol thread és az "offcial Announcement" elérhető itt:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.0

Az ICO már ugyan lezárult, de ez fedezett pénz, és most az INOV szakaszban tartunk. Vannak lehetőségek a pénzt fedező közösséghez csatlakozni, akár a bitcointalk.org -on indított aukciókkal, mind igazi ékszeraukciókon résztvéve. Bővebbekekt a hivatalos csatornákon (angol, magyar) lehet megtudni...
Az ICO ugyan lezárult, de a Byteball -on futó P2P exchange chat-bot-on keresztül megvalósítható a Charm, a fedezettnek tervezett pénznek a vásárlása pillanatnyilag az ICO-van azonos áron. A Byteball fizetőeszközének a segítségével, a GBYTE-val. Az ár a későbbiekben változhat, most olyan 10%-on fut a fedezett pénz árfolyama a fedezethez képest!!! Van ajánlat, amit bűn kihagyni Smiley

Szeretném jelezni itt is, hogy elindult - pár hónapja - a Dorothyum / Charm projekt.
Csatlakozókat, érdeklődőket szívesen látunk a projekt Thread-jén, amely a vortexledger Slack Chat fórumán lett elhelyezve, mert annak a projektnek az első komolyabb fázisa.

Itt a link a csatlakozáshoz:
https://join.slack.com/t/vortexledger/shared_invite/enQtNDI4NzMyNDIyMTAzLWZmM2YwMTFkMmRkZGM3YjQzMzQxYWYyZmY4OGY5NzQyZjJlY2I5NGQyMjA5OWEwNzlhNjM2YWJkMjViOTRlZjA


És a link a Thread-hoz:
https://vortexledger.slack.com/messages/CBVF9JPAB/

Ott magyarul beszélhetjük meg a projekt részleteit. Sok a dolog, kevesen vagyunk még, de én vagyok a PO (Projekt Owner - projekttulajdonos), és bár nemzetközi projekt, de szívesen venném, ha magyarok is csatlakoznának (sőt! Smiley ) épp ezért indult ez az elsősorban általam vezetett magyar Thread a Dorothyum-ról, Charm-ról...
Szeretném én második körben (a projekt team után) ott megvitatni a terveket - magyarul. Persze nem ígérhetem, hogy minden újdonság ott lesz először publikálva, de az a Thread előnyt fog élvezni már csak azért is a projektben, mert a magyar nyelvet erősen magunkénak tudjuk itt mindnyájan Cheesy
Türelmet kérek tehát mindenkitől - fogok válaszolni, fogok jelentkezni, de első a projekt vitele, amelyet főállásban tudok most nyomni. Sokat utazom - a projekt már sokakat és több országot érint.

Röviden a projektekről:

vortexledger: alapötlete, hogy a pénz feltalálását kiváltó cserekereskedelmi válságot informatikai eszközökkel, infrastruktúrával meg kellene manapság oldani, és lehetővé tenni a pénz, az általános egyenértékes, kiváltását a világgazdaságban. Meggyőződésünk, hogy a pénz a mai formájában elavult, és demokratikusabb alapokra kell helyezni minden pénzkibocsátási mechanizmust a világban, lehessen bármi fizetőeszköz, ide értve a zsemlét, hajnyírást, de akár a kőolajat is.

Dorothyum: aukciósház, speciális szabályzattal. Az aukciósház bevétele elosztódik a működtetők, felhasználók, tulajdonosok, értékőrzők között. Cél, többek között, hogy egy hölgy által viselt gyűrű kamatozzon Cheesy

Charm: A Dorothyum pénze a byteball ledger-en. Fix pénzmennyiség. Legkisebb egység (amely csökkenhet, ha szükséges) mindig az 1 Toto. Az ICO már lezajlott, de az alapívány napi áron - amely most a byteball BYTE-jához fixen kötött - folytatja a "coin"-ok értékesítését. A pénz fedezve van pillanatnyilag 1 db. nagyértékű smaragddal, amely Oz tulajdona, aki a Projekt Manager a Dorothyum Projektben. 100 Charm az 1 Kiss - ezzel biztosítva, hogy pl. egy kávéházban lehessen csókkal fizetni Cheesy A smaragd a birtokomban van, én őrzöm London egy széfjében és a byteball ledger-en én azonosított kibocsátó vagyok (Verified Asset Issuer):
https://byteball.market/#!/assets/oF9wmH31QDL~2FVXppOJ9mHISrvcdJQ1rqU+Jv8GRQH84=

A smaragd-ról készült egy certifikát, amely a következő linken található:
http://web.wgi-global.com/online-verification/?report=WGI9624108976
A certifikát készítője a Londoni Hatton Garden-ben dolgozik, és tudta, hogy a smaragd eme projektnek lesz a háttere, és a certifikáton feltüntetett értéket is igy becsülte meg. De hangsúlyozom, hogy mivel egyedi drágakő, utánozhatatlan, és mivel ehhez a projekthez kapcsolódik - az értéke lehet ennek kb. tizede (projekt kudarc) vagy ennek a sokszorosa is (a siker mértékétől függően). Tervezzük, hogy a smaragd jól őrzött helyen időnként kiállításra kerül, és megtekinthetővé válik a külvilág számára.

A smaragdot (egyedi darab - gondolj a benne található mikroszkópikus szennyeződésekre) később értékesítjük, és el lesz az így kapott bevétel osztva a Charm aktuális birtokosai között - BYTE-ban történnek majd a kifizetések. Ha a projekt sikeres - Oz és a Team kifizetésre kerül szintén. Ekkorra már a külvilág által bevitt eszközök fogják majd a Charm-ot - siker esetén - fedezni. A pénz tehát FEDEZVE VAN már a kezdetektől, és cél egy elosztott "jegybank" létrehozása. A "jegybank" sejtekre alapul. A fedezetőrző ismert (Verified Asset Issuer), a fedezet birtokosa lehet névtelen (csak a fedezetőrző ismeri, de ő akár szerződhet is vele hivatalosan). Ők alkotják a sejtet. A fedezet így megtekinthetővé, ellenőrizhetővé válik. A szerződések biztosítják a jogi hátteret, de az alkalmazott jogi környezet elfedhető, akárcsak a tulajdonos személye. A fedezetőrző és a fedezet tulajdonosai is részesülnek a Dorothyum hasznából, sőt a Charm aktuális tulajdonosai is. Így tud pl. egy gyűrű (pl. egy hölgy, az ismert fedezetkezelő ) ujján kamatozni. Az értékek lehetnek különbözőek (ékszer, ingatlan, autó, ...) és a sejtek különböző országokban, jogi hátterekben élhetnek, ezért földrajzilag is alaposan diverzifikálva lehetnek a dolgok. Így a pénz értékálló tud majd maradni, akár politikai, akár jogi, akár környezeti, akár gazdasági, ... hatásoknak jól ellen tud majd állni. De ez még rengeteg munka Smiley

Hivatalos bitcointalk.org announcement (bejelentés) és thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525

Az ICO már lezajlott, de folyamatosan nyitottak vagyunk a csatlakozókra. Az ICO-ban nem értékesített eszközök bekerültek az EmeraldCity alapítványba, és onnan kerülnek értékesítésre napi áron - korlátozott mennyiségben.

Köszönöm a figyelmet.
477  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] unique Diamond ring with GIA cer.tificate, option for a SHARE in Dorotyum on: October 07, 2018, 04:35:55 PM
Just to consider: we have other auctions also in this topic... If you don't own such amount of bitcoin - you can select an other auction with i.e. 0.001 BTC starting bid.
478  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 21.49ct sapphire with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 07, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
Description:

I start an auction for an 21.49 ct corundum sapphire. Beautiful. The sapphire has a WGI certificate. See the link below.
If the winner will, the winner can owns a share in Dorothyum. Please see more in the Announcement of Charm and Dorothyum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525

Starting bid:

1. The starting bid is 0.1 bitcoins. The minimal increment is 0.05 bitcoin.

Buy it now:
   Buy it now price is 1 bitcoins.
   
End date and time:

2. If nobody give new bid, after 12 hours I will post a request for a new bid for everybody...
   If no bid given, after 6 hours I give a new request. Then after 3 hours a last request.
   If nobody give then in a hour more bid, I close the auction... If a bid coming before my closing post - it is valid bid.
   I post then an acknowledge for the bid, and the auction remained opened for next bids.

Payment methods accepted:

5. The winner transfers to the escrow the amount of the winner bid
6. I transfer the sapphire to the address of the winner and the winner gives an acknowledge an escrow about the transfer
7. The escrow transfers me the payment minus escrow fee.

Additional information:

8. We sign with the winner (Only if the winner wish it) a cell contract to back Charm... This sapphire can be back 50000000 Charm's ... The winner can own with it a nice stake, for this price, sure...
9. I update the Treasure Table in the official bitcointalk thread of Charm.

http://web.wgi-global.com/online-verification/?report=WGI9624109624



479  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 21.15ct quartz with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 07, 2018, 04:24:32 PM
Description:

I start an auction for an 21.15 ct quartz. Sagenitic. The quartz has a WGI certificate. See the link below.
If the winner will, the winner can owns a share in Dorothyum. Please see more in the Announcement of Charm and Dorothyum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525

Starting bid:

1. The starting bid is 0.001 bitcoins. The minimal increment is 0.001 bitcoin.

Buy it now:
   Buy it now price is 0.25 bitcoins.
   
End date and time:

2. If nobody give new bid, after 12 hours I will post a request for a new bid for everybody...
   If no bid given, after 6 hours I give a new request. Then after 3 hours a last request.
   If nobody give then in a hour more bid, I close the auction... If a bid coming before my closing post - it is valid bid.
   I post then an acknowledge for the bid, and the auction remained opened for next bids.

Payment methods accepted:

5. The winner transfers to the escrow the amount of the winner bid
6. I transfer the quartz to the address of the winner and the winner gives an acknowledge an escrow about the transfer
7. The escrow transfers me the payment minus escrow fee.

Additional information:

8. We sign with the winner (Only if the winner wish it) a cell contract to back Charm... This quartz can be back 15000000 Charm's ... The winner can own with it a nice stake, for this price, sure...
9. I update the Treasure Table in the official bitcointalk thread of Charm.

http://web.wgi-global.com/online-verification/?report=WGI9624109601

480  Economy / Auctions / [WTS] 23.24ct amethyst with WGI certificate, option for a SHARE in Dorothyum on: October 07, 2018, 03:23:40 PM
Description:

I start an auction for an 23.24 ct amethyst. The amethyst has a WGI certificate. See the link below.
If the winner will, the winner can owns a share in Dorothyum. Please see more in the Announcement of Charm and Dorothyum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525

Starting bid:

1. The starting bid is 0.001 bitcoins. The minimal increment is 0.001 bitcoin.

Buy it now:
   Buy it now price is 0.25 bitcoins.
   
End date and time:

2. If nobody give new bid, after 12 hours I will post a request for a new bid for everybody...
   If no bid given, after 6 hours I give a new request. Then after 3 hours a last request.
   If nobody give then in a hour more bid, I close the auction... If a bid coming before my closing post - it is valid bid.
   I post then an acknowledge for the bid, and the auction remained opened for next bids.

Payment methods accepted:

5. The winner transfers to the escrow the amount of the winner bid
6. I transfer the amethyst to the address of the winner and the winner gives an acknowledge an escrow about the transfer
7. The escrow transfers me the payment minus escrow fee.

Additional information:

8. We sign with the winner (Only if the winner wish it) a cell contract to back Charm... This amethyst can be back 30000000 Charm's (+1%) ... The winner can own with it a nice stake, for this price, sure...
9. I update the Treasure Table in the official bitcointalk thread of Charm.

http://web.wgi-global.com/online-verification/?report=WGI9624109614

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