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461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't react to the fluctuations on: November 24, 2019, 09:00:35 AM
We have been doing same mistakes again and again that's by reacting to the market fluctuations as either we tend to start buying like there is no tomorrow when we see pump or else panic and empty our coffers for slightest  dump and the reason I am suggesting you all to stop reacting is for the fact that the bitcoin market is going through quick pump and dump from past 4 or 5 days so it will prove fatal if we sell out or buy at this point of time. Just take some time and look observe the trend for week or so before jumping into any conclusion.

You cannot blame most of the people who are inclined into day-trading or short-term investments as they primarily rely on the fluctuations on the price of BTCs to earn cash for their use.
Unlike people who HODL their BTCs for long-term realization, there are also people who focus on a different path but with the same goal in mind- which is to profit.

Every fluctuation on the price, whether the increase/decrease may be relatively small/big, is definitely a big-deal to people who own large amounts of resources. To be honest, you really cannot blame them.
I do really have any problem with short term traders, they are just using a different philosophy to trade the markets than the ones that prefer to hold their coins, the great problem for short term traders is that it is incredibly difficult to get profits in this market especially when the market moves abruptly by no apparent reason, and if for some reason you forget to set a stop loss by the moment that you react and sell your coins your losses can be very significant.
at least 1 week to hold and see movement, because right now it's difficult to get profit from daily trading. Short-term stop loss in bitcoin trading sometimes does not really help us, instead, we will increasingly lose. better hold because I'm sure in the end every time the price drops there will always bounce back and as traders, of course, we must see the benefits of this fluctuation.
462  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to PANIC! on: November 24, 2019, 06:09:44 AM
We already observe the price of bitcoin before that it was declined and most others do panic sell to minimize loses. So this is not new to others those who are here that observe the market from the start. I'm not into panic and indeed no need to panic, because I highly believe market condition could recover.

in trading sometimes we have to cut losses to minimize the risk of loss, so many people panic this is indeed natural. but if they have full experience in crypto, they should know where the price will go eventually, this is only temporary or just a game from whales to get lower prices.
some people are indeed exposed to whale traps, I am used to it like this,
I'm sure the price of Bitcoin will also survive at least $ 6500, but if it is passed, then we will see $ 4000 and please you buy with a lot of money,
wow I don't even think the price will really fall to $4000, I think bitcoin never repeats the lowest point in a short time. but if that happens this might be our last chance to buy? before halving 2020 happened.
463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have control or not? on: November 23, 2019, 06:35:47 PM
Can you consciously and willingly stop gambling at any time?
If you can do the above, you have great control and discipline, of course you are not an addict and you deserve to gamble as much as you want.
If not, clarify your ways of stopping gambling.

I have the principle of gambling with free money, and I am quite disciplined. when there is free money I will gamble, but if there is no I don't gamble, even for a long time I will still not gamble if there is no free money. so I really can control myself to gamble.
464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All of you Bitcoin Hodlers are mentally ill - *Must Read! on: November 23, 2019, 04:54:31 PM
This bitcoin *halving* is an absolute joke. Demand is down, new bag HODL'ers are drying up. That's why the price is declining.
Plus, more and more people are waking up to the entire bitcoin space as being one giant scam, no different than Bernie Madoff. Most millennials have no clue who Bernie Madoff is and how long the SEC allowed him to operate his Ponzi scheme.

the history of the previous halving is the same as now, where before halving happened, the price decreased, but in fact what happened? after halving the price going to the moon. I think this only came from a few parties who wanted to get a cheap price before it really went away when halving happened. let's see 2020-2021 the time for history will repeat itself.
465  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Could Make Bitcoin Drop To $5? on: November 23, 2019, 03:19:33 PM
if you are good at analyzing short term movements like when in and out, it's really good to take advantage of fluctuations in the price of bitcoin. it's good for increasing your bitcoin growth while waiting for next year. but I'm a little difficult for that, so it's likely I will collect and buy when it will fall again.
if you want to buy and collect it back maybe right now, a week I see the movement can only last $8,000 and now $7390 I think this is the right time for us to be able to invest it in the future even if there is still hope to fall again. I'm still waiting and  pay attention to the right price when I want to buy it for short-term play.
I don't think this is the right time to buy, I see some of the analysis says can go down below $7000, so it's better to wait for it than I buy now. if you want to play short term it should be good to touch 7000, because every drop there will be the bounce of a price.
yes, two days ago I had a short-term moment and now I have bought it at the current price and maybe about three weeks I will resell it depending on the right moment when I want to take it. but if you do not dare do that more well you just wait and it's true what you say the price still wants to go down, good luck bro !!
yeah finally touching under 7000 is really good to buy, because buy every dip as long as it's under 7000 is pretty good. I get a little to backup. same as some analysis that it will fall to 6700 and I try to put on it 6800. if it reaches 7500 maybe I will take it off.
466  Other / Meta / Re: The Bitcoin Forum is 10 years old! on: November 23, 2019, 02:25:53 PM
Happy Anniversary 10th! I am very grateful to the Bitcointalk forum for helping me to learn and understand more about Cryptocurrency. Also, I had many good friends from the Cryptocurrency community through the Bitcointalk Forum.  Cheesy

yeah thanks to bitcointalk I also get lots of friends from the crypto community, sometimes we hold meetings for discussion or even vacation.

btw, Happy Anniversary 10th BITCOINTALK 6 years is not a little time for me to spend a lot of time here. the best forum ever!
467  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to PANIC! on: November 23, 2019, 07:23:52 AM
We already observe the price of bitcoin before that it was declined and most others do panic sell to minimize loses. So this is not new to others those who are here that observe the market from the start. I'm not into panic and indeed no need to panic, because I highly believe market condition could recover.

in trading sometimes we have to cut losses to minimize the risk of loss, so many people panic this is indeed natural. but if they have full experience in crypto, they should know where the price will go eventually, this is only temporary or just a game from whales to get lower prices.
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to PANIC! on: November 22, 2019, 04:29:15 PM
Holders panic today and sell because they don't want to reduce the value of their bitcoin. So they are selling now and are still waiting for the lower price to buy back.

what is happening now is natural, as you said @op and its price will rise again when whales and big time traders start buying at low prices.

Is it a good idea to sell now and buy it again if down? the problem is we don't know the lowest price point that will be reached. of course, it is done by people who have limited funds. why don't buy again below for backups, if you believe, bitcoin prices should be normal and rise higher.
469  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Could Make Bitcoin Drop To $5? on: November 22, 2019, 10:32:20 AM
if you are good at analyzing short term movements like when in and out, it's really good to take advantage of fluctuations in the price of bitcoin. it's good for increasing your bitcoin growth while waiting for next year. but I'm a little difficult for that, so it's likely I will collect and buy when it will fall again.
if you want to buy and collect it back maybe right now, a week I see the movement can only last $8,000 and now $7390 I think this is the right time for us to be able to invest it in the future even if there is still hope to fall again. I'm still waiting and  pay attention to the right price when I want to buy it for short-term play.
I don't think this is the right time to buy, I see some of the analysis says can go down below $7000, so it's better to wait for it than I buy now. if you want to play short term it should be good to touch 7000, because every drop there will be the bounce of a price.
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Projects Scamming Bounty Hunters on: November 22, 2019, 03:34:21 AM
A lot of projects are scamming Bounty Hunters and taking Bounty hunters for a ride. What can we do to stop this?
The only way to stop this is to stop supporting scam projects and if some idiot bounty hunters didn't know what is a scam project then let them get scammed because they don't learn or even bother to do their own research. It's been around here for a while these bounties who keeps popping up like a wild mushroom but only few of them are worthy for bounty hunters.
many people which is difficult to identify whether this is a good project or a scam, most of them see the number of prizes. we should have a discussion thread about the project so that we can sharing whether the project is good or bad, but unfortunately, this is difficult to do, because when people get a really good project, they will choose silence, so that not many people join and he gets results the big one.
471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: My opinion about dumps caused by bounty participants. on: November 21, 2019, 03:40:25 PM
Contrary to the popular belief of bounty hunters being responsible for the dump encountered upon an ICO listing on an exchange for most crypto token, i will like to point out the fact that most dumps we see for token are as a result of the huge bonus given to private sales investors durring the token private sales,  most project go as high as awarding bonus of up to 100% to private sales investors.  This huge amount of bonus is capable to dump the price of any token upon successful listing on an exchange.  To reduce the rate of dump in price project should reduce the amount of bonus they ghve out durring sales and not lay all blames on bounty hunters
but indeed that is what some investors worry about the amount for the bounty hunter which is quite large. I even prefer to join bounty hunter rather than investing in ico, because indeed I can get more prizes from the bounty. and this often happens when the distribution for bounty hunters starts and prices fall. therefore some ICO teams make regulations, such as partial distribution, then distribution time 1-2 weeks after listing on the market.
472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Day Trading for a Living? on: November 21, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
doing daily trading for a living is the most ridiculous thing
I have already said that daily trading is gambling, managing emotions in daily trading are the most difficult thing
I have never seen daily trading that routinely generates profits every day
better to be weekly or monthly trader.

there's a point, because I've tried it myself, even gambling is easier to get a daily profit, because some games are predictable.
and it's really hard to get daily profits from trading for this year. unlike under 2017, market conditions are still very good. for now, I can at least benefit from trading can be 1 week - 1 month, even that only get 10-20%.
bitcoin domination will be increasingly difficult to make us get profit from daily trading.
473  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm officially sick of the bitcoin price right now... on: November 21, 2019, 11:40:22 AM
I don't care and you should do the same. When I see some red I look at the price and tell myself that I've been in a much worse position. Even this year when we were at 4k and I didn't sell so why should I panic when we are at 8k.

The market has never gone as per prediction because most people that are predicting are not doing it the right way by just predicting based on what they believe and base on cycle or what happened before, while the real people are the ones that predicts with strong and accurate analysis which we only have few people that are doing that and majority of other that are even analyzing are all relying on technical analysis alone for a market that is fully unpredictable and a market that is based on speculation and the most analysis that I feel is very important is that of the fundamentals, like the time that china president announce support of cryptocurrency, we would be able to know immediately that the market will react positively to it.


The reason it happens is that every single trader wants to outsmart the herd and think's he'll follow the TA, but with a little twist. When the majority is panicking at 6k and think we will revisit 6k that "smart trader" will say "they are all waiting for 6, I'll set up my traes at 6,5 and to be sure I'll start buying earlier from 7k in case they bounce up earlier". In the end most people do it and the price stabilizes at 7,5k to never go lower.
I think in the exact same way, if I did not panic and I did not sold my coins when bitcoin reached its lowest point this year and I was sustaining losses why should I panic now when the price of bitcoin is higher than at that time, it is better to not think too much about the market otherwise we will always be in a state of frustration, as those that want the price to go up that are mad because the price is not doing what they want while those that want the price to go down are mad as well by the same reason.
I am always greedy when prices rise, I want prices to continue to increase and ultimately I do not sell at the highest price. but when prices fall I always panic and want to sell it right away.
when it's already selling, then the price increases again, but when I buy why the price always goes down, like a few days ago when I bought at $9500 I thought it would go above $10k, but now it almost even touches $8k and I'm really frustrated with the price at this time.
no one can predict the peak for sell . and you most hold for long term without selling for buying again . remmember past bull run of the past when prices rose without stop . this is the risk when you try buying and selling . the cause of current drop is that some or little traders want buying under 10000 usd per btc
and right now the price of bitcoin is touching below 8000 usd, I am a little panic if it will go down further. ya, maybe it's not a good idea to sell now and try to buy again below, because I have limited funds. no choice may have to be patient until next year. just hoping the end of the year can back to 9000 or 10000 usd.
474  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: November 21, 2019, 10:22:39 AM
kelihatannya jika persyaratannya gold member di blockchain.com maka yang kemarin dapat airdrop stellar kemungkinan akan dapat semua karena sudah masyuk persyaratan sesuai ketentuan

wah kalau gitu sih bakalan ngga dapet gitu gw? karena akun saya gold-verified tapi pas airdrop stellar saya sudah gold tapi ngga dapet-dapet
padahal saya 1 bulan setelah mereka announce tentang airdrop stellar saya langsung kelar KYC tapi malah ngga dapet-dapet sampe airdrop tersebut kelar
tapi yang syaa baca di situs syaratnya hannya Gold-verified berarti yg kyc skrang di blokchain kemungkinan masih bsa dapet gan karena syaratnya cuman itu ,saya jga gk dapet sih XLMnya waktu itu karena aprove kycnya lama keburu abis durasi airdropnya
saya juga nggak dapat, tapi beberapa teman saya malah dapat, agak heran juga makannya. btw gara2 kemarin pas XLM juga saya nggak dapat. jadi airdrop yang sekarang kalau udah gold verified tinggal nunggu aja token STX nya masuk ke wallet blockchain aja kan? btw landingnya lama juga ya baru baca saya sekitar January/February 2020.
475  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: November 21, 2019, 03:36:19 AM
ada airdrop nih lumayan dari blokchain partner dengan Blockstack untuk give away Stacks tokens (STX), nggak tau worth it apa ngga sih cuma dapat $10 tapi harus kyc hmm.
Blockstack-Airdrop
Kalau diharuskan KYC untuk mendapatkan $10 menurut saya gak worth it sih tapi airdropnya di post pada blockchain.com sehingga terlihat sangat menyakinkan, namun demikian saya tetap skip dengan alasan tidak memberikan KYC karena atas pertimbangan apapun
sebenarnya kalau KYC di blockchain pasti aman dan juga pasti bukan untuk airdrop saja, kedepannya juga pasti berguna. tapi memang kalau kalau soal data sih jika nilainya itu besar ya saya juga mau mau aja, tapi kalau kecil emang agak males, walaupun buat apply KYC nya pasti aman.

Quote
Our Latest Airdrop is Here!
Upgrade your profile to Gold Level to secure your spot in our next airdrop with Blockstack and get free Stacks (STX).
notifnya seperti itu, apakah itu tidak untuk selamanya gan? maksudnya jika status akun blockchain kita sudah verif kyc maka jika ada airdrop selanjutnya kita akan berpotensi untuk mendapatkannya lagi?
kalau soal selamanya kurang tau juga sih gan. itu kayanya khusus airdrop dari blockstack, jadi kalau di verif kyc nanti ada airdrop selanjutnya dari blockstack lagi kita bakalan langsung dapat spot lagi. tapi kalau misalkan di verif kyc juga seharusnya bisa buat ikutan semua airdrop kedepan nantinya.
476  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: November 20, 2019, 02:59:10 PM
ada airdrop nih lumayan dari blokchain partner dengan Blockstack untuk give away Stacks tokens (STX), nggak tau worth it apa ngga sih cuma dapat $10 tapi harus kyc hmm.

Blockstack-Airdrop

477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict Bitcoin! on: November 20, 2019, 12:04:45 PM
Bitcoin is very difficult to reach the price of $ 10,000 in December 2019, I think Bitcoin will remain at $ 8000 until the end of the year, the current market does not have anything new that can cause Bitcoin price to rise. Perhaps bitcoin can only increase in 2020, a lot of people think that by 2020 bitcoin will return to the price of $ 20,000.
Still a question of trust. There's no sign yet whether bitcoin will jump high or will remain to this level as there's no news that will impact that much to bring investors to buy in and support the market. Everything still depends to your own speculations you have to make a good assessment before predicting your next move. The level right now still possible for long term holders buy and hold and wait for the right time to sell.
Yes, there's no signal that the price of bitcoin market will experience surge in price and this is logical cause November and December are holiday months and there's no reason any form of new will impact the surge in price of bitcoin market now and as Acdc said it will be next year before the market will experience something huge.
this year we can't expect much on prices, most importantly it doesn't go down like in 2018, where nov-dec has decreased from $ 6000 to $ 3000. I hope it can stable at the price of 8k-9k or there is an increase when Christmas approaches the price can reach $10k.
478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 20, 2019, 09:30:43 AM
the distribution is sent in alphabetical order, if the username starts from "A" then it gets the first order, if the username starts from "Z" then it gets the last one. at this time the distribution if I'm not mistaken, already in the order of the letter "M" just wait until to "Z"
Oh this is the reason why my wallet still zero, I'm still wait and hopefully get the airdrops. See the remaining balance at wallet airdrops is 24million so the distribution still ongoing, the distribution need time 5-6 day.

Edit:
Confirmed received the airdrops approx 688 XLM
This is legit airdrops, but for next month must wait users which got the airdrops this month will included in the next month distribution or not.

there a certainty that every month we will get the airdrop, so we don't have to wait for anything. unless there are people who commit fraud that will certainly not get it again in the next month.
and this is right,  but must be clear what mean commit fraud
like using multiple accounts, because it's forbidden by them, and not get anything.

there a certainty that every month we will get the airdrop, so we don't have to wait for anything. unless there are people who commit fraud that will certainly not get it again in the next month.

every month ?  how did you know ?  did they indicate it on thier announcement page ?  airdrops usually have phases or have several rounds but they occur longer ( longer than a month or two )

 cheaters will also get caught and wont be rewarded as long as they have a strong security that can detect unusual activity from the same i.p address.  overall , keybase is a known platform so i think its legit but unfortunately i have missed this one

You can see the space drop in keybase, The next round is Dec 15, 2019. So, of course, we will get it, and it will run for 2 years cmiww.
479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 20, 2019, 06:43:11 AM
the distribution is sent in alphabetical order, if the username starts from "A" then it gets the first order, if the username starts from "Z" then it gets the last one. at this time the distribution if I'm not mistaken, already in the order of the letter "M" just wait until to "Z"
Oh this is the reason why my wallet still zero, I'm still wait and hopefully get the airdrops. See the remaining balance at wallet airdrops is 24million so the distribution still ongoing, the distribution need time 5-6 day.

Edit:
Confirmed received the airdrops approx 688 XLM
This is legit airdrops, but for next month must wait users which got the airdrops this month will included in the next month distribution or not.

there a certainty that every month we will get the airdrop, so we don't have to wait for anything. unless there are people who commit fraud that will certainly not get it again in the next month.
480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: bounty is still potential on: November 20, 2019, 04:33:26 AM
Since there have been many things and issues that are not good about ico and others, according to many members, the potential has declined drastically, can we all choose which one is the potential or not?

ico is over, sone bounty are still potential but onoy few of them , better to look a good project before joining cause most bounty these days are scam.
sometimes some good projects also fail. it's hard because the trust of investors has declined, they prefer investing in IEO, maybe bounty IEO is a little better, try it.
but doing bounties right now like you are gambling. the results are not certain, even working 1 month you may not be able to earn. a good potential is to join a bounty that pays with bitcoin.
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