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461  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: eBay hunting and look what I found a scam on: March 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
HA!

You guys are gonna be so jelly when you see me mining with an asic b4 any of you! They said I bought the last one! Hahahaa suckers...should have taken it when you could. There are winners and losers in this world, and i am definitely the winner. Suck it losers!!
462  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB] - Your old mining hardware. on: March 13, 2013, 07:38:05 AM
PM me with what you have for sale along with your price.

Thanks!
-battmann
463  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Thinking of selling your mining rig? on: March 13, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
PM me with what you have, and how much you want for the cards/whole rig/whatever you got for sale from your mining rig. I just might be interested.
-battmann
464  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
Hahahahaa oh man my sides! I wish i was employed by Instawallet!  Lol this is hilarious, they offered you a police investigation AND YOU REFUSED on a 40k btc issue. This couldn't sound more made up. I mean I dislike the company, but you must really hate them.

If you don't remember windy guy I was the one who spent a half a minute to lead you to the instawallet cold storage...its like your five!

Man, I cannot wait to see who you start flaming next. I think I saw Blockchain.info steal your coins, go go go! ^.^
465  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A symbol for Bitcoin in ISO 4217 : Sign the Petition! on: March 11, 2013, 07:02:35 PM
I will make a tab specifically for this on my site getfreebitcoin.com

That should bring in some sigs Wink
466  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk road down for second day, what's going on? on: March 11, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
Ah like tor2web. No thanks.

Anyone getting access?
467  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 06:06:27 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php
So the wardriver sets up a fake instawallet and redirects the user's traffic to said fake instawallet.  Wouldn't the SSL certs prevent this from happening?  The user's browser would warn him that it is not a valid cert, this looks like the wrong website, etc?

Otherwise, I don't know what you are attempting to infer by sending me to that link.

I'm saying you need to start playing the lotto. It's perfect for you ^.^
The lotto is a stupid way to lose a lot of money.  You're still not getting your point across.  Please say whatever you mean instead of attempting to make inferences through irrelevant links and phrases.

Lol. If you like you can go back to my first post to attempt to understand what my 'point' was/is Smiley
So you're implying that a wardriver randomly driving by a place:
1) Knows that the person uses Bitcoin
2) Knows that the person is a wealthy Bitcoin holder
3) Finds a security hole in the person's computer allowing the insertion of a keylogger or other malware

Does this not seem unlikely to you?  How does said wardriver know #1 and #2?  In my city of 300,000 people, only 21 of them (average) use Bitcoin.  Does someone drive all around Eugene, Springfield, and the surrounding area looking for hackable wifi and inserting malware into the networks in the hope that they randomly come across someone computer-savvy enough to use Bitcoin, but not so computer-savvy that they know WEP is broken?  And they hope that at least one of those 300,000 people actually has a decent amount of Bitcoin stored up, in an instawallet, so that they can grab it?

It still seems like winning the lottery would be far more likely to happen than a random wardriver hacking someone's Bitcoins away.  Much more likely, in my mind, would be a friend or relative of OP knew about his Bitcoin holdings and got greedy.  It would be trivial to take the Bitcoins with physical access to the computer.

Thank you for reiterating my main 'point' as you put it; not exactly the word choice I would be using, but whatever works for ya.

Oh, and to answer your list "no" you need to do your homework honey. Piiissseee
And I still don't know what your point is.  Is it that a wardriver would randomly stumble across a Bitcoin user, or that a relative/friend is the likely culprit?

I'm gonna go see Dan Deacon at the house of blues.
468  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 05:58:44 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php
So the wardriver sets up a fake instawallet and redirects the user's traffic to said fake instawallet.  Wouldn't the SSL certs prevent this from happening?  The user's browser would warn him that it is not a valid cert, this looks like the wrong website, etc?

Otherwise, I don't know what you are attempting to infer by sending me to that link.

I'm saying you need to start playing the lotto. It's perfect for you ^.^
The lotto is a stupid way to lose a lot of money.  You're still not getting your point across.  Please say whatever you mean instead of attempting to make inferences through irrelevant links and phrases.

Lol. If you like you can go back to my first post to attempt to understand what my 'point' was/is Smiley
So you're implying that a wardriver randomly driving by a place:
1) Knows that the person uses Bitcoin
2) Knows that the person is a wealthy Bitcoin holder
3) Finds a security hole in the person's computer allowing the insertion of a keylogger or other malware

Does this not seem unlikely to you?  How does said wardriver know #1 and #2?  In my city of 300,000 people, only 21 of them (average) use Bitcoin.  Does someone drive all around Eugene, Springfield, and the surrounding area looking for hackable wifi and inserting malware into the networks in the hope that they randomly come across someone computer-savvy enough to use Bitcoin, but not so computer-savvy that they know WEP is broken?  And they hope that at least one of those 300,000 people actually has a decent amount of Bitcoin stored up, in an instawallet, so that they can grab it?

It still seems like winning the lottery would be far more likely to happen than a random wardriver hacking someone's Bitcoins away.  Much more likely, in my mind, would be a friend or relative of OP knew about his Bitcoin holdings and got greedy.  It would be trivial to take the Bitcoins with physical access to the computer.

Thank you for reiterating my main 'point' as you put it; not exactly the word choice I would be using, but whatever works for ya.

Oh, and to answer your list "no" you need to do your homework honey. Piiissseee
469  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Silk road down for second day, what's going on? on: March 11, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
Just put .to on the end of the website
What exactly does that do?
470  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 05:32:57 PM

On this report:

Quantitative Analysis of the Full Bitcoin Transaction Graph

http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/584.pdf

Page 11

Instawallet has 633,606 in accumulated incoming BTC

At 47.50 it is worth 30 Million Dollars!!!!

If Instawallet has fallen, this is Bitcoin's biggest theft.



Nope, you're wrong. Instawallet is stealing all the coins. To think otherwise is stupids.

www.shitsstupid.com

I am not saying who stole what.

I am just saying the SIZE!

Oh I know broski I'm just being a dick. Also plugging my site shitsstupid.com my ladyfriend free drew that for my birthday ^.^ she thinks she cant draw, she did that in about 8 hrs overall. Shits awesome.
471  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 05:06:01 PM

On this report:

Quantitative Analysis of the Full Bitcoin Transaction Graph

http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/584.pdf

Page 11

Instawallet has 633,606 in accumulated incoming BTC

At 47.50 it is worth 30 Million Dollars!!!!

If Instawallet has fallen, this is Bitcoin's biggest theft.



Nope, you're wrong. Instawallet is stealing all the coins. To think otherwise is stupids.

www.shitsstupid.com
472  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A symbol for Bitcoin in ISO 4217 : Sign the Petition! on: March 11, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
I support this
473  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 04:54:06 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php
So the wardriver sets up a fake instawallet and redirects the user's traffic to said fake instawallet.  Wouldn't the SSL certs prevent this from happening?  The user's browser would warn him that it is not a valid cert, this looks like the wrong website, etc?

Otherwise, I don't know what you are attempting to infer by sending me to that link.

I'm saying you need to start playing the lotto. It's perfect for you ^.^
The lotto is a stupid way to lose a lot of money.  You're still not getting your point across.  Please say whatever you mean instead of attempting to make inferences through irrelevant links and phrases.

Lol. If you like you can go back to my first post to attempt to understand what my 'point' was/is Smiley
474  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 04:50:28 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

give up. he made a suggestion and he will stick by it no matter the debate. his .0001% guess overrides all the other more likely guesses. he is obviously right. :-)

To the bitter end. The idea I suggested is the one and only possibility; I will accept no substitutes! There can only be ONE!!1!!!one!
475  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php
So the wardriver sets up a fake instawallet and redirects the user's traffic to said fake instawallet.  Wouldn't the SSL certs prevent this from happening?  The user's browser would warn him that it is not a valid cert, this looks like the wrong website, etc?

Otherwise, I don't know what you are attempting to infer by sending me to that link.

I'm saying you need to start playing the lotto. It's perfect for you ^.^
476  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
So you're saying that a wardriver, who knows that Bitcoin is only used by 0.007% of the population, is driving around, looking for open or crackable WiFi, in the hopes that one of those 0.007% of people is actually using Bitcoin instawallet (used by even fewer people), and that person just so happens to be accessing their instawallet at the same time said wardriver is watching their network, and that person also just so happens to be accessing their instawallet via http instead of https (even though instawallet is always accessed through https, so there would be no reason for an instawallet URL to be stored as http)?

I feel like it would be more likely for me to win the lottery twice than for this to happen.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150724.msg1609919#msg1609919
477  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: CryptoCurrent // Private Bitcoin Sales - Simple & Secure on: March 11, 2013, 11:02:39 AM
Don't be surprised if Wells Fargo shuts you down... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82983.0

More specifically this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82983.msg1609716#msg1609716
478  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: why is it so hard to purchase bitcoins? on: March 11, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
ive been looking and looking and its a headache lol first got interested in bitcoins due to researching being anonymous and what not for VPN services and that lead to bitcoins oh man what a headache i stumbled into lol. so i guess my question is as follows, is there anyone who knows a reliable place to get BTC that you dont have to jump through hoops? ive signed up with 3 places so far that claim to be able to purchase with moneygram but they end up linking to an exchange partner that in the end doesnt support.

If you want check out CryptoCurrent.com and your answer may be as simple as that Smiley Maybe.

Good luck!
-battmann
479  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing on: March 11, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
This just happened to a friend of mine too, a substantial amount of bitcoins lost from an instawallet account a few hours after sending them there.

The only device used to access instawallet was an iphone that he had control over at all times between first accessing the account and the theft, so there is only two possibilities here:
  • There is an iphone wallet stealer trojan or similar in the wild.
  • Instawallet was hacked or the theft was internal.

My advice is to not use this kind of service, use something where only you can control the private keys to eliminate one risk factor.
If you need to use instawallet or similar services, send the coin somewhere more secure as fast as possible.

There are numerous possibilities, unfortunately and AFAIK, nobody notified the support about this problem. And without any way to identify the wallet there is obviously no way for me to investigate. Let's have a look at the facts before starting to guess.

People debating about the security of wifi forget that the traffic is SSL-encrypted anyway.

wtf. That's like humongeously stupid... instawallet. Or am I not getting something?

I'll add as a kind reminder that SSL sits on top of TCP but under HTTP, meaning that the secret URL is never sent in clear over the internet.

Please don't forget what about ssl encryption:

*snip*

@mattypoo yeah I noticed your edit, and I don't think you understand how wardriving works. I don't really care to educate you on the ins and outs of the subject; but a good wardriver isn't 'sniffing' just one ssl encrypted site. People use the same password for other sites too Wink

Just...understand that some people are more creative than you. Just because you think you're safe doesn't mean you are; at all.

There is nothing common about common sense.

Never doubt the stupidity of people. Just because a direct route of information is ssl encrypted  does not mean every place he could have sent relevant information is encrypted as well. Information gathering is key to an operation, and if the reward is high enough plenty of these 'hackers' would spend enough time to not only gather info from unencrypted data, but also try to get a keylogger or any other type of malicious software onto the victims computer. If the reward is high enough, the difficulty doesn't matter; It is only a matter of time. Is it the easiest possibility? No, so occam's razor applied you might find that it is a simple case of misplaced coins from a fallible human being.

Just please don't think the use of one ssl encrypted site means much to a dedicated wardriver. Trust me; it doesn't.
480  Economy / Digital goods / Re: selling a few btc domains on: March 11, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
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