The financials of ASICMINER are pretty opaque ( ) however I'm thinking that the recent run-up in the price of bitcoin should be a good thing for the size of the dividends.

My logic is that most if not all expenses are in fiat.  Increasing exchange rate means less bitcoins need to be converted to fiat to pay bills (electricity, rent, hardware costs etc), leaving more for dividend payments.

Would be awesome if we had more detailed financials.

Genau wie Satoshi in seinen Postings - versuche ich auch mein Schreibstil ständig zu verändern. ;-)

Plane Woche nächste sprechen Yoda wie.

Es gibt keine Anteile mehr

3 Anteile wurden nicht bezahlt - die werde ich Versteigern.

Allerdings erst nachdem die Geräte da sind und die erste "Auszahlung" an die Teilhaber gezahlt wurde. Dadurch verspreche ich mir ein Höchstpreis in der Versteigerung.

Would it be possible for ASICMINER to issue a stock dividend instead of weekly BTC payments?

Thanks... you interpreted it correctly. My writing was really a bit confusing...
I think that 0.5TH mining for some weeks will have a very slight impact for a higher difficulty next time. Even if you would mine with that lower difficulty later the higher earnings will be lower than the earnings you would have earned while mining the 2 weeks with 0.5TH.
And @vortex1878... this was an answer to:
which implied to me that friedcat could hold back hashpower to get a lower difficulty next time. But when i read it again i see what memvola meant. JimiQ48 spoke about the network problems asicminer had that prevented them from deploying more hashpower. Misunderstood this...

You need to take your happy pills, and back away from the keyboard for an hour.  Nothing that has come before deserved this kind of hostility. 

May I translate?

He's saying that he doesn't see any sense in holding back deployment of hashing power until after the next difficulty bump, with the intent of _not_ increasing difficulty.  The reasoning is that the difficulty adjustment is based on the entire 2016 block period, so a network hash rate bump in the last day or two would not have a significant effect on the size of the bump.  And the conclusion is that we'd (asicminer shareholders) would be better off if hashing power were deployed as soon as it was available.

I haven't done the maths, but my gut tells me if network hash rate was constant but for our new power then this would be not be true - we would be better off deploying after the bump.  However in the face over a variable hash rate other hashing power being deployed across the network, I think his argument makes sense.

What are you speaking of? Is my english too bad or do you think it makes sense to keep a half TH away from mining only to not push the difficulty too high the next time it rises?

I dont think that it makes sense to deploy TH that doesnt hash because of difficulty because the next difficulty is calculated from the average hashing from the last. So at this time it would be a disadvantage only to have asics that dont hash because difficulty will rise only a bit less but you could have earned more bitcoins hashing the previous time. So i doubt thats the reason.
I hope it keeps growing...

How did you come to that second number of 1.4 BTC/GH?

What's the current cost in terms of BTC/GH and USD/GH for ASICMINER? I tried to do some quick calculations, but my numbers are so off I must be missing something.

Current Hash Rate: 6500 GH (??)
number of shares: 400000

0.01625 GH/share
0.7 BTC/share
43.077 BTC/GH (4393.846154 $/GH) @ 102$/BTC

Is that right???

Even projecting out to 200TH it's 1.4 BTC/GH (142.8  $/GH).


Compared to:
Avalon ~ 1.17 BTC/GH
BFL ~ $20-22/GH (~ 0.2 BTC/GH)
100TH ~ 0.3 BTC/GH

Of course BFL and 100TH are not currently hashing yet. However, BFL might ship en mass in about 1 month. 100TH isn't projected to hash until July, so understandably they have a much lower valuation...in addition to the fact that they are much higher risk due to not having produced working hardware yet.

What other factors are you guys taking into account when trying to price ASICMINER shares? Shouldn't the value of shares drop off significantly over time as more and more players come into the market (assuming AM % of global hash rate goes down)?  Personally, I'm expecting around 1PH/s total hash rate at year end with diff just under 150M.

flame on 


disclaimer: I sold at 0.65.

I care about bitcoins and frankly even though I have  asics on order the problem is not bfl asicminer or avalon.  It is the bitcoin developers they allowed this to happen by allowing preorder system.  They simply could have banned asics until a seller had them built.  Instead they put all the risk on the miners.

Please stop your guessing games, until friedcat had a chance to explain the dividend key (distribution+retained) for the future dividend payments. There are too many unknowns right now.

i could be wrong, it is just a guess, but i didnt forget about last Sunday,  monday tuesday wednesday = 3 days. 0.003775 / 3 is divident for a normal day, that times 7 would be for a normal week , in my basic logic, im sure im forgetting about other stuff, like the part that has been invested and such.. ,  but yeah, it is just a guessing game.. maybe i should not try to predict these things  

if I can guess, it would be approximately 0.008 btc divident for a normal week, or a little bit more.

(0.003775/3)*7 = 0.0088

and I read they invested some of this and next weeks divident into their progress, so it would be the week after next week to see this normal 0.0088 divident / share, is a low estimate because I dont know how much has been taken to invest, which can be added again the week after next week

ps. it seems to be a slow transaction, not yet confirmed, I've other transaction made later, that are confirmed 5 times, and the number of shares in satoshis is also confirmed (12 confirmations) , or is this a blockchain.info glitch?   Will be okay in some time I'm sure, just curious what it could be.

Right now you can get up to 940 shares at 0.70 each just based on the asks.  Seems like a bargain to me.

Now im wondering about these numbers. I might remembering wrong but i believe the last stats at glbse showed around 145xxx shares sold. Something around that. Now its 163,962 shares. Are the difference the shares that werent traded through glbse? Then thats probably the foundation of the confusion about the real amount of sold shares.

re: the approximately 46K share that remained unsold after the IPO.  Are these considered a current asset of the company that, should they be sold, the proceeds from which will also be distributed to current shareholders?

So it's exactly as I've written it - there are 400k shares, 250k owns Bitfountain and 150k is owned by smaller investors.

Introduction
ASICMINER is a virtual identity totally held by investors of the Bitfountain company. The Bitfountain company's business includes mining with self-built ASIC devices, as well as the sales of them. Currently ASICMINER shareholders holds 163,962 shares, while Bitfountain shareholders holds 236,038 shares.