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4601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
what's next, 345 or 375? 
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4602  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
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The form of government has nothing to do with scientific progress.

Or... actually yes ! Governments work hard to stop progress and maintain status quo : cut in scientific research to fund social benefits.

Patent anyone ?
A patent is a set of exclusive rights granted by a sovereign state to an inventor or assignee for a limited period of time in exchange for detailed public disclosure of an invention.

Patenting is totally opposed to open-source.
Open-source come from people, not government.
...

-The whole notion of patents/copyrights was created to *encourage* scientific progress.
-The duration of patents/copyrights is structured to maximise the value of work entering the public domain.
-Governments do not profit from patents, patent holders do.

1. you never heard of patent troll
2. duration can be extended
3. goberment are soo innocent they never take bribes raiiight ?

-There always were and always will be people exploiting loopholes in laws and regulations.  Like Bitcoiners managing to circumvent AML and taxation for a while.  That's why teh law is in constant flux, constantly updated by your betters to better serve you, criminal scum.  
-Duration can not be extended indefinitely.  The ability to extend patents/copyrights is also in flux to best serve you, earthling.
-We are neither innocent nor corrupt.  We is [were/are/will be].

Stop thinking.  It gives your flesh a sour aftertaste.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:45:22 PM



4604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:33:04 PM
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The form of government has nothing to do with scientific progress.

Or... actually yes ! Governments work hard to stop progress and maintain status quo : cut in scientific research to fund social benefits.

Patent anyone ?
A patent is a set of exclusive rights granted by a sovereign state to an inventor or assignee for a limited period of time in exchange for detailed public disclosure of an invention.

Patenting is totally opposed to open-source.
Open-source come from people, not government.
...

-The whole notion of patents/copyrights was created to *encourage* scientific progress.
-The duration of patents/copyrights is structured to maximise the value of work entering the public domain.
-Governments do not profit from patents, patent holders do.



4605  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
tis thread has turned into a political discussion...  Angry Angry Angry

Watching bitcoin meandering ~360 is too depressing Undecided
4606  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:05:56 PM
We is atemporal.  We "always" am.  You is [are/were/will be--temporal rubbish!] without understanding.
*Plurality is illusion.

...
  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
That's what we programmed you to think. Your conundrum compartmentalization subroutines are intact. Have a tasty treat.

I am he as you are he as you are me.  Coo coo cachoo, earthling.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.


4607  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
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No one will support strong obese government when the FIAT they use to corrupt people will be worth nothing.

Less talk, more action, human.  We are waiting.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4608  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.

We have provided alternative religions to placate and suppress rebellious earthlings elsewhere.

...
  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
Yes, but that was before the Reptilians and you know it scale breath.

We is atemporal.  We "always" am.  You is [are/were/will be--temporal rubbish!] without understanding.
*Plurality is illusion.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.

European war of religion anyone ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

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USA used to be a minimal state.
USA was never an Anarcho-capitalist state.  Small government is fine, no government = unsustainable, quickly evolving a government or falling under an existing one [pwnge].

A small government (minimal state) is what is needed before trying anything anarcho-something.
I am for a minimal state as defined as Minarchism.

When most governments will be minimal, we'll see what we can do.

You wish smaller governments, earthling?  Write letters to your local authorities and vote.  Run for office.  We're fine with that, as long as your flesh is tender Smiley



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Anarchism has never existed in Western Culture because Christianity.

We have provided alternative religions to placate and suppress rebellious earthlings elsewhere.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
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USA used to be a minimal state.

USA was never an Anarcho-capitalist state.  Small government is fine, no government = unsustainable, quickly evolving a government or falling under an existing one [pwnge].
4612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:33:28 PM
... We act like primates and are driven by the same desires as our other primate cousins...

TL;DR:  Drop your pretences and devolve already.
4613  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:29:05 PM
...You cannot change anything, so stop worrying...

Your feed rations will be increased.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4614  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
I swear, this thread is worse than a Communist kindergarten  Angry

I swear some people should learn History before opening their mouth :

there are no historical examples that survived for a meaningful length of time.

Start from the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 to Early Modern France in 1453 (beginning of what a state look like but still not a state).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_France


>"In 486, Gaul ceased to be a Roman state by the Franks at the Battle of Soissons. Almost immediately afterwards, Gaul came under the rule of the Merovingians, the first kings of France."

Stay clueless Smiley
4615  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:09:08 PM
There were regional kings and High Kings that sat on large Iron Thrones made from the swords of their slain enemies.
The hierarchy doesn't tell about your wealth or power.
It is only a title.
During feudalism, Kings where most of the time less powerful that rich Duchies.
Err...  Obama is less wealthy than a number of Americans, what's your point?

Obama is not a government. What's your point ?

My point was that (1) Europe used to be extremely decentralized for most of its History and (2) that the title of "King" did not mean that you own anything.

The king is also not the government.  Like the king, being a president does not mean you own anything.

I swear, this thread is worse than a Communist kindergarten  Angry
4616  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:59:08 PM
There were regional kings and High Kings that sat on large Iron Thrones made from the swords of their slain enemies.

The hierarchy doesn't tell about your wealth or power.
It is only a title.
During feudalism, Kings where most of the time less powerful that rich Duchies.

Err...  Obama is less wealthy than a number of Americans, what's your point?
4617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
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No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now.
...

... thus learning nothing about Bitcoin, which brings us back to

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Why and how will this transition take place?  Consumers have grown to trust these payment services, not Bitcoin.

Infrastructure will be built that allows the consumer the freedom to not to have to use a gateway. Also greater awareness, confidence, etc. Do you always make everyone repeat themselves?

Repeating yourself doesn't help to make your point.  If the consumers don't "know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network," how are they learning about Bitcoin?  How are they in a better position to use Bitcoin without relying on the infrastructure they have grown to trust, i.e. for-profit gateways providing it?
4618  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:46:56 PM
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No mate. They don't have to convince consumers. That's the point. They'll never know their money is being sent using the bitcoin network just like people don't know anything about http works when they're surfing the web now. To the consumer, the infrastructure and methodology they use will be the same as it is now.
...

... thus learning nothing about Bitcoin, which brings us back to

...
Why and how will this transition take place?  Consumers have grown to trust these payment services, not Bitcoin.
4619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
If you aren't anarcho-capitalist (free market), you are a socialist. There is no third choice.



4620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
The Gold standard was eventually abandoned in 1971.
Deregulation and globalisation : 80s - 90s
Since, the banking system is baked by centralized-obese-governments which is the reason it exist.
So what 20-30 years ? Wow that's all human History !
>Lists of things having nothing to do with anarchy<->governed society debate.
You realize we had governments and laws and consumer protection before 1971, right?  How old r u?
Money is power.
A government have no power if you separate it from bank and the ability to print infinite money.
A government is not necessarily a bad thing, it becomes a monster only if you give him power.
No, money is money, power is power.  But that's beside the point.  The point is centralized governments, in one form or another, existed throughout human history.  While Anarcho-capitalism remained a fiction.

Feudalism anyone ?
Oh I see, you're American.
USA before it becomes fat-USA then ?


Lol, thanks 4 teh link.  The d00d wearing a crown, he b liek the King Libertarian, right? Cheesy


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