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4721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fucking Chinese! Fucking Brits are next! on: June 16, 2016, 05:49:19 AM
Turns out, the fucking Chinese aren't really doing much buying and selling after all - it's all smoke and mirrors.  Those little squatty fuckers are cooking the books!  Honesty was never a forte in some communities.  Oh well.  C'est la vie.

https://forum.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-discussion/reminder-chinese-bitcoin-spot-exchanges-okcoin-and-huobi-are-faking-a-majority-of-their-trading-volume-t6701.html

that is an old news, it say march 2016, how it is related with the recent pump? it can still be because of chinese, or brexit or halving, many possibility, i think the halving is the greatest betwen those yes
It was somehow relevant or related with the recent pump because as far as we know, it was a fake pump manipulated by those chinese exchangers. That's probably why we are now seeing a slow drop of value. Probably.
slow drop in value is gone.  Are we back to the 'fake pump manipulated by chinese'?

most likely, this is not a fake pump at all, too many thing are going on that can increase easily the bitcoin price, brexit, halving, chinese yuan losing value etc...

how you can even think this si fake is beyond me....
4722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Which GPU to purchase with $200 for Ethereum mining? on: June 16, 2016, 05:46:31 AM
i think the problem may occur only with more than a certain number of gpu, say 5-6

i noticed this in many algo, now on neoscrypt i'm getting 20-30 kh less on each card that is running with the g1840, the single card running with the i7 beast is sitting at 670-678 EVEN when i use the pc

but perhaps it has to do because of the number of gpu itself, the more gpu you have in one rig, the more hash you lose overall on that rig? can anyone confirm?

we are however talking about minimal losses, nothing major...

Some algo/os/cpu/ram/miner combos are cpu limited when you have multiple GPU“s.

that's what i was talking about, now my question is if one buy a i3 core/4 thread, they will remain cpu limited or not?
4723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 16, 2016, 05:44:55 AM
well sp they don't have your "private" kernel for a reason, how they can have a private kernel without paying you?....

also you should compare your private work on a 980ti, with your private work on a 1080

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...
4724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ethminer-0.9.41-genoil-1.1 on: June 16, 2016, 05:41:15 AM

I don't know where Claymore gets his additional 5-ish percent performance increase from, but I really can't keep up with the features he keeps adding to his miner. But mine is free  Grin  


I don't think Claymore's miner is faster, I think he gets the increase because his stratum protocol works allowing a direct connection to Dwarf.  Supposedly this makes a big difference going direct rather then over eth-proxy...  If you got stratum working with dwarf I think you would be just as fast.  Great miner.  Thank you for your work.  Good way to verify would be testing solo mode with each as solo mode must use HTTP.



Actually, while I can get 6-7-ish 10 percent right now using Genoil's miner, I don't think Claymore took my route. I think you're mostly right - it's the host code.

10% on amd only right? because if it is on the 970 too, that's what i call impressive
4725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon released RX 480. on: June 16, 2016, 05:34:59 AM

It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months




i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
two 480s will mine at a minimum of 23 mhs each and both cost at worst and cost less than half the price of a 1070 and they will hold their value just as well as a 1070.

We were buying nano's because there was nothing out there as efficient at the time , in 14 days all that changes it would be stupid to buy a single 1070 now when you will be able to get nearly double the hash rate for the same price and possibly with rom mods the close to the same power drain.

The 1070 purchase is kind of moot anyways , you cant find them for sale anywhere ,at least you can find nanos in any quantity to you want.




the 480 will most likely be priced higher than excepted the same is happening for the 1070, so do not expect 200 at launch at all but probably 250 or more in some country even 300

the new target price is 229 for the 480 btw.. since one 480 is equal to 970 in hashrate in any other algo and a 1070 it's already 50%(without any optimization i believe it can be pushed to 80% easily) faster than a 1070 you have already a card that is worth $400

and again i don't care about etheruem, you guys should really stop basing your argument only about etheruem when even now there is another more profitable coin
4726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 15, 2016, 08:00:43 PM
you can lower the tdp at 60% and not losing anything i think, like i can do the same with my 970

they didn't try this apparently, so the consumption could be lower
4727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 15, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
100watt mining etherum @ 23mhash. The gtx 970 can do 22mhash.

But for quark@25 mhash it uses more.
I was told Lyra2v2 does around 32.5-34mhash on the 1070 and around 25mhash for quark.

it's 27 mining etheruem, but like i said, i don't buy a gpu because of one algo, this is not asic, there are other good algo at the moment, not only etheruem

34MH on lyra is good, but i'm fairly certain that you can optimize it to reach 40MH, like you did in the past with 970
4728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 15, 2016, 07:02:02 PM
don't look at the tdp, tdp is telling you nothing, it is known already that a 970 consume 150w, with the lowest power limit, without losing hashrate

the 1070 consume only 90-100w, we have a screen with that guy doing test

i'm sure the 1070 can be pushed to 80-100% more hash than a 1070, right now without any tweaking it's already 40-50% more

at 100% more hash rate with only 100w, it's worth even $450+ easily, no brain actually
4729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 15, 2016, 06:45:31 PM
I'm not sure I will do the pascal sp-mod. I think I will move to AMD and 512bit bus. 1070/1080 is not attractive when it comes to price/vs hashrate.

unless you are talking about new amd, current amd line up can not compete on any algo minus etheruem with 1070, not to mention that the 1070 can be improved further and reach a nice 2x hashrate on any algo comapred to 970, eth excluded,

but who care eth is not the only profitable coin...

Current Pascal price/performance seems to be inline with Maxwell for most algos so there's not much incentive
to upgrade yet.

actually no, a 1070 consume only 100w or less and have 50% more hash in any algo(ok no etheruem but i don't care i don't mine for one coin) versus a 970, and this without any tweak i'm sure it can be pushed to 100%

a easy math is telling me that mining now with a 970 instead of a 1070, will only make you lose 40-50 euro a month, for each gpu, this counting the 50% more performance and less consumption, even with cheap energy still around 30 euro are lost each month

so buying a 1070 now for 500 euro, or buying it in 4 months for 380 euro is the same thing....
4730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon released RX 480. on: June 15, 2016, 06:42:21 PM

It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
gimme a break with your voodo economics its about making money now no one is making money with a $500 1070 fuck the future youre not fooling anyone bro no idiots here. if the 480 is decentcand price holds around 230 best belive im swapping put all my power hungry cards for it

a $500 card that can be sold 1 year later for 400 , will hold its value no problem, the initial investment is not really a concern for me, what it matter is the profit you make with that card

i bought my 970 for 230-240 euro i can easily sell them for the same price now 2 months later or even more

buying a gpu only for one algo is not so different than buying an asic, shitty strategy

also buying now a 1070 is not different than buying nano before(actually it's better nano was priced $600), same crap, so i don't understand the issue about the price really
4731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: (GPU Mining) First Bitcoin... Then Ethereum... What next? on: June 15, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
This makes me really confused, whether I should spend off my money on GPU's and start mining ether or just leave it as it can become useless very soon. I remember the last time I purchased a good GPU back in 2010 for $250, I sold it for $25 in 2014, so if this drama of ether GPU mining ends up, my GPU would definitely get wasted off.

Is someone around here mining Monero? Maybe that's the coin to mine with GPU along with a bit of profit.

it's still very profitable, so yes go ahead and buy a gpu to mine if you can, also bitcoin skyrocketing make this even more profitable despite the little crash in ethereum price

It's almost always a bad investment. Mining may never be profitable again.

i don't agree, i already roied on my gpu if i would sell them now, and this counting my high electricity

there profit to be made but you need to mine the most profitable each time, it's not always ethereum...
4732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon released RX 480. on: June 15, 2016, 03:36:57 PM

It is 3D mark, so it is not too relavant to the Ethereum mining. It is even 40% slower than 1070, not very encouraging.

seems that the 480 is close to nano speed and caps out at 100 watts

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/

I expect it to be the go to card for eth mining in the next few months


i would avoid buying a card only for one algo, on the other algo 480 will be worse than a 1070, and not by few %

etheruem will not last forever, what you will do in six months then when another new algo will kick in and destroy etheruem that went pos?

at that point would be wise to have a strong card with better density to save on many rigs
4733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: June 15, 2016, 03:33:33 PM
I'm not sure I will do the pascal sp-mod. I think I will move to AMD and 512bit bus. 1070/1080 is not attractive when it comes to price/vs hashrate.

unless you are talking about new amd, current amd line up can not compete on any algo minus etheruem with 1070, not to mention that the 1070 can be improved further and reach a nice 2x hashrate on any algo comapred to 970, eth excluded,

but who care eth is not the only profitable coin...
4734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ETHEREUM] [POOL] https://ETH.suprnova.cc 0% fee, 20 % BONUS per Block ! // on: June 15, 2016, 12:16:52 PM
are you planning to open the feathercoin pool anytime soon? because apparently there is an entity with 500M that is solo mining or something, a private pool most likely chinese

other pool are too tiny to even find block on a regular bases
4735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long does the initial synchronization of a bitcoin core clinet take? on: June 15, 2016, 09:10:47 AM
last time i did a full sync starting from zero it took me 8 hours, the blockchain was a bit smaller below 70GB but above 65, i don't remember

this with ssd 850 pro 256gb and i7
4736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: June 15, 2016, 09:09:19 AM
it will not die if bitcoin will be regulated for future use . Paper money will get replace by Cryptocurrencies for sure as it will be no hassle to bring .

Bitcoin will never die for sure but that doesn't mean it can replace paper money so easily, paper money will exist forever and no digital currency can ever replace it.

Yes I don't think bitcoin will die easily, look at the price now today it is already $700+ and it is going to increase higher than we are expecting.
And countries will just tend to accept bitcoin as a secondary currency and paper money will always be there.
Unless the world will implement a mass cashless society.
Bitcoin is dead.  This price run-up is just a bunch of bullshit.  The price doesn't reflect the success of the project.  As long as those dickheads at Blockstream keep their artificial small block high fees, the system is fucked.  Bitcoin is dead.

actually the limit only make bitcoin dead, if we go big with it, as long as bitcoin remain niche, it does not need a huge limit so you see bitcoin is not dead at allo, just do not scale properly
4737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do I know if my BTC address is compromised? on: June 15, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
to be sure i always do a secure erase on the ssd plus installing the only windows 7 iso that i trust, which is my personal iso, also you create a new wallet with the new installation

in that way i know that i'm safe at 100%
4738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Which GPU to purchase with $200 for Ethereum mining? on: June 15, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
i think the problem may occur only with more than a certain number of gpu, say 5-6

i noticed this in many algo, now on neoscrypt i'm getting 20-30 kh less on each card that is running with the g1840, the single card running with the i7 beast is sitting at 670-678 EVEN when i use the pc

but perhaps it has to do because of the number of gpu itself, the more gpu you have in one rig, the more hash you lose overall on that rig? can anyone confirm?

we are however talking about minimal losses, nothing major...
4739  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 15, 2016, 06:41:31 AM
look bitcoin is rising now
i think we can invest all in at bitcoin

you invest when the market looks dead and sell when the market looks alive, not the opposite, this if you want to have the full reward from it

those who dump early, are the one that buy when the pump it's already halfway before the next dumping
4740  Other / Archival / Re: The future of bitcoin... on: June 15, 2016, 06:34:54 AM
...
I want to propose a fork to address all the big issues in bitcoin, mainly scaleability, anonymity, speed and security.
...

So the ultimate question begs to be asked, does the halving finally get canceled or what?

why it should? the halving currently it's the only reason why the price is increasing

Without the cancellation of halving, the fork proposed would be incomplete. As you say, the price keeps increasing for the singular reason of the coming halving, but the OP says that the price (its rise) is nothing more than just sheer hype, so the removal of halving seems to be the right (if not the best) thing to get done in the fork, right?

In short, you can't eat your cake and have it (though you can still try to eat it twice, lol)

assuming that the op is right, and he isn't, saying that it is only about hype it's half correct, without it the hype would not be there and the price would not skyrocket so much, also there would be even more dumping because miners do not care and they still would have 50 btc block

If you assume that the OP is right, you can't at the same time assume that he is only half correct, lol. Your logic is incomprehensible as well as your language

your lack of understanding or possible trolling is concerning me some times, saying that he is not right have more than 1 meaning, in this case he is not fully right but only partially....

the price is increase because of the hype around the halving for now and subsequently because of the less reward that will be present in few weeks, so not only because of pure hype like many think

also i suspect that this increase has to d0 with other big things, like yuan getting worthless and chinese moving their funds to bitcoin and brexit...
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