As I understand it, the GUI is a wrapper that passes calls to the daemon ergo if you use the cli to make those calls then you should not hurt anything. I am guessing as I did none of the programming. The only pitfall I can forsee is that the gui would not refresh from those cli calls and display previous data but that is a rookie move and I can't imagine this team putting out something that lame.
As usual feel free to correct me guys, I'm just making educated guesses from experience on other projects.
No, the GUI is not a wrapper. It is a full wallet, just like the CLI. The CLI sends commands to the Daemon correct? That makes it a wrapper correct? No. I did some of the programming, and you are wrong. Next time don't ask "feel free to correct me" if you're just going to ignore it. I'm actually not arguing here, AFAIK the cli is a client that sends input to the daemon which does the necessary adjustments to the data set. So your saying that it does not? I believe he is saying it is not a wrapper. There is a difference. A wrapper would be a GUI front end for the CLI executable. In this case the CLI and GUI wallets are equivalent. They both use the daemon, but neither is a wrapper. As far as I know the default QT bitcoin client at least used to work this way as well.
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What's with all this GUI talk in the price speculation thread? There's a Support thread, why aren't people using it? ...So, can these be 'directly RUN' from there in order to use the wallet the old-fashion way too, i.e. more control over typing commands (for "save" etc) in addition to using the GUI in a newbie-friendly way i.e. just double-click the icon?
Are there any warnings or danger to be aware of in this case, if so? Or would it still be better to pre-load the daemon etc from another normal copy of the downloaded command line set of Monero files?
(P.S. Sorry if it's a dumb question BUT this is the kind of thing that needs to be made simple, clear, and easy for NOOBS if HoneyPony is really ever going to gain mainstream use and acceptance!)
As I understand it, the GUI is a wrapper that passes calls to the daemon ergo if you use the cli to make those calls then you should not hurt anything. I am guessing as I did none of the programming. The only pitfall I can forsee is that the gui would not refresh from those cli calls and display previous data but that is a rookie move and I can't imagine this team putting out something that lame. As usual feel free to correct me guys, I'm just making educated guesses from experience on other projects. No, the GUI is not a wrapper. It is a full wallet, just like the CLI. You need to keep some distinctions clear: The monerod daemon syncs the entire blockchain from the P2P network. The blockchain is stored in an LMDB database as soon as each block arrives. You can exit the daemon any time you like and all of that syncing progress will be saved without any further action being needed. The wallets scan the blockchain of the daemon you're pointed at, looking for transactions owned by your wallet address. The scan results are held in RAM until you exit the wallet, at which time the entire wallet cache file gets written to disk. If your computer crashes while the wallet is syncing with the daemon, all of your current progress in the wallet will be lost. But that's completely separate from the daemon's progress. You cannot see your latest transactions in any wallet until the daemon is caught up with the rest of the network. The CLI sends commands to the Daemon correct? That makes it a wrapper correct? No. The CLI Wallet and the GUI Wallet are equivalent. Neither is a wrapper for the daemon. Both are a client of it. Another way to put it... if the GUI was a wrapper, it would be a wrapper for the CLI wallet. It is not.
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I have to admit even I was surprised on how fast Monero has changed from pump and dump game to serious project.
I believe your perspective on Monero may be changing, but the project is just what it has always been. Steady (perhaps a bit slow) incremental improvements with the core focus on the vision for the single goal of private fungible digital money. Nothing more... nothing less. This is part of the reason it has a slim chance to become something more than an experiment, which is all it still really is.
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First of all, I apologize for the amount of time that has passed since my ability to update this thread and the donation list. In light of that, I am sad to have to say that the time really has come for me to stop having the official capacity of updating this list. I know that it is very important to many. And I know that many have given the equivalent how many thousands of dollars to the development of this excellent cryptocurrency. So, at this time I would like to take applicants for my replacement. How should we, the community, choose the person who should Shepard this task from here on out?
I have recently added up the hours I have spent updating this list. It surprised me. It is not a trivial job, but it isn't that much of a load for someone who has the time to do it.
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Can anybody explain why me why Monero is so high market cap compared to other anon coins. Is it more centralized then others or ? Im looking more into anon coins now but i so many pages to read iT'S THE OPPOSITE, iT'S completely DECENTRALIZED! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) WOOPS SORRY BOUT THE CAPS LOCK. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) No need to apologize. I absolve you. Be careful in the future, OK?
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LOL, Suppression is really trying to hold 0.01370000 137 down from 100btc to 10. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) for you noobs this is a common shakeout accumulation technique where a whale is dumping into his own bids to keep bid side down while tryinhe he g to hold a sell wall and accumulate everything that weak hands throw below that wall. resistance shattered maybe he got his full? 24hr Volume: 10082.01813790 BTC / 807685.86229093 XMR Can you dumb down your posts a tad for us noobie morons, please. Serious. Probably some good intel you're sharing. Read it carefully a couple more times. Everything he is saying is petty clear if you stop and digest each word. Petty sure at least one player is done now anyway.. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Monero volume has dropped quite a bit. Interesting reality... Less interest in it? Calm before storm? What kind of storm?
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What is most fascinating about Monero is that its constantly evolving but the main core principles and parameters stay the same (privacy, scalability, emission curve etc), it keeps incorporating stuff that Bitcoin was suppose to like RingCT and now Compact blocks, I doubt there is a more promising fair launched cryptocurrency. Pepe loves a coin that stays honest to its principles and doesn't throw them out at the first opportunity to make a profit. Pepe picked a good time to become interested in Monero imho. I wonder if Pepe realizes the person who answered his database question is the author of LMDB? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Back in with speculative funds at .01077
I have misread the technicals multiple times but I am going to take a stand here.
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Hold tight I'll get these updated soon.
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The pain was getting too painful. I had to step away for a while. Wasn't expecting to see this when I came back. Dare I cautious optimism? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Optimism about what? A price floor or a trend reversal. Duh. I feel like you are setting up to make some sort of "point" and I'm walking into your trap Nah you are reading too much. I was trying to gauge more along the lines of fundamentals that have changed suddenly for anyone to be cautiously optimistic. At the moment (and even short to mid term) it is a caustic asset in my analysis. Interesting. I dont think the fundamentals ever changed really. Before the great rise the price was way too low and I feel like it corrected way too much after. I'm optimistic about what looks like, might be, a shifting of sentiment. I doubt it. In fact my recommendation to the couple of friends I introduced XMR to, was to sell when long term supporters came out of the closet (and before the N-rG barrage) and never get back in as I didn't feel confident enough to be responsible. In essence they 11x their Bitcoin portfolio and are never coming back. It is not like they don't know that XMR will rise again but it is an altcoin that will be used to extract Bitcoins out of the newbies and they get it & are not going to trade it anymore (and caustic asset was a borrowed term from them honestly). I could not disagree more strongly with the idea that monero is just a lever to pry bitcoins from "newbies". Any alt coin market is full of danger but it is wonderful to gain 11x in an investment. Personally, I invested 1\3 of my bitcoins into monero. I was fortunate to buy a little extra during the rise which I sold, regaining my original stake. But I kept the nut. Because I believe in monero. I am not skilled enough to jump from alt coin to alt coin talking money from others... like you evidently are I hope the promise of monero comes to fruition, but if it does not... At least I wasn't taken by more experienced traders like you and your group. Still.... Kudos on your gains.
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Funny how the newbie accounts show up after the rise and bubble ... and talk like the always were here... dude you got to earn yourself some reputation... even for TC it took years... i think he would agree.
I'd say TC has earned several reputations.
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Sorry buddy but go back to school and learn to count to 6 ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Price will drop below 110 No offense but yesterday you were saying that the price would go below 0.0075. Then later you were saying that the price would touch 0.0085. Earlier today you said that the price would go below 0.010, and now you are saying that the price will drop below 0.011. I sense a pattern emerging here. Lol...
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How should I troll? Let me count the ways.
Everyday the time till the release of the GUI will be cut in half.
Zeno's GUI.
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Cute but other people have to store those transactions for all eternity. Y'know, I just shrank the blockchain by 50% in v0.10. I think we can afford to splurge a bit here. Nice job BTW...
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Looking forward to see Monero taking over ethereum. Monero make consolidate a big and then make a strong move. Let's hope the move is upwards.
You are looking at the same charts as me. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Seems to be that some people got much hurt during the continuous falling price or why so happy that i lost with my short? But i guess ill never understand the attitude of people who like when others fail ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) For the haters: I made 12k EUR profit of my last short so i can live pretty good with the loss of the last 24hours ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is easy... shorting gives the feeling you think this stuff is too expensive, so you are acting against what most people in this topic are waiting for... a rising price. Also you seem to be bragging very much... no one likes bragging people. Well maybe you dont follow this thread properly....i always said that XMR will go to the moon somewhen. But the quick raise was way to much so it was not hard to suppose that it will crash cause some people loose their courage and a lot of money by panic sells. The decline of demand was strong related to the really new implementation of AB and the low Volume. XMR has everything to beat out BTC. Sorry that is no bagging it was just a logic investment related to other past events on stock exchanges. No he's dead right. This thread is majority longs. Some permabulls. And you mocked them and bragged about shorting. If you're gonna sit down at that table you'll eat what's served.
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I thought this was the deal ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I agree. I am moving up to Altcoin Marketplace.
. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah...alright...you are right...but this is just a link No big pics I have no problems with your posts.
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Someone is gathering up the moneros...
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What do you think? Is this finally it guys. Have we finally found support? This pattern doesn't quite match anything we have seen yet in this down trend.
We've now broken the pattern... But is it just one big buyer and then we resume the float towards or actual trend reversal. Our volume will help tell that story I think. But with folks Max Kaiser waking up to monero is just a matter of time before... ... China Lets get fluffy pony on the keiser report ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Really I bet it wouldn't be that hard at all to make it happen. Or maybe there is more value in keeping a low profile. If this were a poker hand it would be the kind that is a mistake to slow play.
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