I would like to charge Lutpin with ruining people's trust scores with malicious, erroneous negative trust feedbacks.
This isn't a court, you don't "charge" someone.
Quotes from the thread:
Take it from someone who knows.. Lock this thread and keep your nose clean.
Trust is earned, not bought and it can't be forced.
Farming trust and reputation will only end badly, and your best bet is to re-evaluate.
Rep loans are frowned upon here, as ou can see you have been given negative trust
you need collateral and a reason to take a loan
And a few posts later, from you:
I have received payment for my loan.
5mBTC. Trust has been posted.
Yeah, you "didn't see that". I know. You should have known from yourself that what you were doing is wrong.
I saw the guy around the forums, and wanted to help the guy out with his career.
Or, what I think is, you wanted to make quick money (0.004
BTC in that case), and sold your credibility out for it.
Something I can't approve of, and something you still seem to be ready to do.
I have returned, and I started this off, apologizing for my actions, for I wasn't aware of the general use of the reputation loans, to buy trust, and later scam, because of the already-present trust on the account.
Proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359022.0You know what the guy you were willing to trust so easily did later? He tried to run a ponzi.
I, instead of being listened to, for apologizing for my actions prior, got slammed with more hate, and one person even went to say that I was "trying to pity" older members.
That was sho, who was willing to remove his negative on you, nice bringing him into this that way.
We find alts, if those are alts of red trusted members, we mark them accordingly. You were in that moment a red trusted member, hence your alt was marked.
On the x_Molotov account, it says
Lutpin 6: -0 / +4 2016-02-14 0.00000000 Reference
Knowingly gave out a reputation loan and left positive trust after being repaid. Also fails to see his mistake and insists on having done nothing wrong.
Let's see what I wrote in the other thread about that:
I have done nothing seriously wrong.
neither of my accounts have done anything wrong
nothing has been done that has been wrong/immoral.
I can see multiple other feedbacks on @lutpin's account, all saying that he gives malicious feedbacks for the sake of ruining people's reputation and boosting other peoples'.
Which you can find on many other users that leave alot of feedback also. Most of those are retaliation feedbacks, given for revenge after a feedback I had left.
Like the one you left me:
"Maliciously hands out feedback, even when he is not involved."
I do not know those people, so I cannot judge if those are correct statements, or if those are scammers, merely mad at the fact that he gave them negative feedback.
Most of them glow in red of -4 and deeper, they are sure nice guys to have a coffee with.
I however, know that the feedback on my account is wrong, the Molotov feedback to be taken off, and the mention of xavTrot6 being my alt, reduced to a neutral or removed.
He wouldn't listen to me via PM, and when I confronted him on a chat on a betting site, he had me blocked, then he blocked me on PM.
I don't think so, and I after all am in the right to leave feedback as I think its correct.
I told you how we could sort this situation out via PM, you said you don't want to, then I blocked you and you followed me to crypto-games.net
What you pulled off there is on the lowest level. Let me quote the chatlog to you:
[23:04] <xCacheMoney> Lutpin.
[23:04] <xCacheMoney> Don't be a pussy.
[23:04] <xCacheMoney> Unblock my PM.
[23:04] <xCacheMoney> Learn how to talk, how to negotiate.
[23:04] <xCacheMoney> You can't be a dick, then ignore comments when people confront you about them.
[23:05] <[MOD]Lutpin> could you please stop harassing me? I blocked your PM for a reason
[23:05] <[MOD]Lutpin> Joter (our admin) already warned you that this is not the right place to talk about it
[23:05] <xCacheMoney> I will "harass you" until you remove the erroneous comments on my accounts.
[23:06] <xCacheMoney> Or I will push and charge you with BS negative reviews in Meta.
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> but not here, drop it, that's my last warning
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> go to meta, make a thread
[23:06] <xCacheMoney> Not here, not PM.
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> I don't really care about it
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> but this here stops right NOW
[23:07] <xCacheMoney> It does not. Until you remove the wrong comments.
You also tried to insult or insulted me on several other occasions.
[...] with sheeple who aren't even involved, following suit, spamming me with negatives.
And the fact that a few people can control the sheeple into spamming negative trusts, [...] when they aren't bloody involved in it.
[...]
However, all the sheeple placing negative trusts on both of my accounts, where they are not involved at all, should not be happening.
[...]
However, the hate just piles up from the sheeple, trying to get in with the higher members, for a pat on the head.
[...]
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
[...]
My information is 100% correct, as you did land malicious feedbacks, both on me and some other innocents, while running a 'hategroup', that rounds up people, and spams them with negative feedbacks.
[...]
Oh, and shorenas take on the situation:
Alright, I did a little check on you.
#1 gratz on
no longer still being a filthy casual.
#2 grow a spine, you just vanished after the negative rating
#3 there are no shortcuts to trust.
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I know this may not be easy to answer, but what is a good way to get my reputation up?
I heard rep loans are scammy, and wouldn't do it anyway.
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a good way to get your rep up, is being honest and doing the right thing.
#4 I will change the rating to neutral, dont make me regret it. This does not mean that others will follow. Dont bother them.
#5 If you want to do trades, do them with the rating you have. Yes, you will get trolled, but those have no interest in trading with you anyway. Those willing to trade with you can use escrow, allow it.
To be honest, I was ready to give you a second chance, as shorena already did. I was even willing to overlook the things that had happened and move on.
But that you left trust from both your alts to the account
MonetaCoin shows me, that you did in fact learn nothing and have not changed one bit.
"Acted as escrow for my BET investment program. Professional, fast, and a pleasure to work with."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=366279
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