70/1 odds to win? I suppose would have been 30/1 or thereabouts for a final appearance then, not bad. But what were the odds for Kansas? That's more interesting. And now the hawks swoop in to pick out the talents I guess?


Nice 50%++ profit on your satoshis if the spread just about made it huh. Did you double down on them at half time? Odds should have been mighty pretty on a ML.

Been a while since I been sniffing around UFC, but with football consuming my bankroll, and the simple matter of real life, it's just been a crazy thang or two.

That said, Sunday night will either be a big break for me, or a big dud, depending on the outcome of City-Liverpool. Interestingly, 6 and a half hours after that game, we get UFC 273, so I might splash some of my winnings there.

The Korean Zombie is begging me to put silly money on him. N00b trap?

Man, I took Atletico way back when it was 85/10, and today, on Sportsbet, odds are 13.72 with a very special Super Boost active... if that's not screaming value, I don't know what is. Still 10+ mins to take that!

I'm going to make it hard on myself and just put in whatever pennies I could on a Liverpool/Atletico parlay for almost 20/1.

Who else is bloody excited, cause I am!

No joy, but maybe Champions League to save my ass on a bad, bad run? One can hope Atletico take their game up, and Liverpool, well, if they don't win, it's a pointless bet to me

So it goes, our last-ditch parlay, with a Super Boost on Atletico alone @13.72 and Liverpool @1.42

100 units at Sportsbet on Liverpool and Atletico to WIN @19.48. Other odds: 17.75
Units advantage:  173

Not so sure what you're getting at (other than the obvious that below $40k is about as likely as above $50k, if not more likely) but I'd most certainly hold if I had anything less than 1 BTC (sadly, any pretense I have about having anything substantial is invalidated but how hard I'm still working for my BTC heh). What's 10k gain or loss at such "low" numbers, right?

Wondering if April will see a 10% daily bump either way, as that'll probably trigger a serious move.

Yeah MoSala came out of nowhere a few weeks ago, and then now he just sits there happy. My season's getting worse in the final leg. This is like Liverpool of old under Brendan Rodgers or even Houllier or Rafa. Fly high and stumble in final quarter heh.

Milan did NOT trick me in betting, but only because I had nothing left. Would definitely have put them down for something, screw you nil-nil draws man.


Aaaand my 20 usdt is gone, because I was so smart to start off bets with Arsenal leg.

But yes! You just reminded me of freebets from Clubhouse. I should get 2 or 3 if not more by the time Sunday bets settle. Only "problem" is how random they seem to be (even as you go up levels). Last month I got almost 0.3 per level at Silver, and then it dropped from 0.2-3 in Gold. Missed platinum as I lost badly most games, so betting frequency dropped.

Yeah! I still feel Simeone will never truly be a great if he doesn't change, but he actually tried to (and won La Liga), but realises now he doesn't have the reserves to sustain it.

Suarez will be fired up like no other. Felix always looks like he fancies a pop. Pep promises he'll be creative again. Should be a blast.

Liverpool, of course, have a job to do first! And it's crazy but I'm actually thinking to watch the City game at least for the latter half. Is that sacrilege?


Some of my most painful memories, tbh. Suarez not so much, I loved him but knew he was destined elsewhere, and the club paid not a small price to defend him (but no regrets). Sterling left me dumbfounded. Followed him all through the academy, would tell my friends he was approaching senior level and to watch out for him. Then he went done what he did and I never forgave him (not for what he did but how). All good though, I'm over it, and they paved the way for Kloppomania.

I only had JWP as my hit. Hurts me that Spurs score 5 goals and I couldn't even pick one scorer (went for Kane instead of Son). All my other picks were for teams that either lost or drew, so yeah, not good in general.

Liverpool-City are on MD32 selection -- should get plenty of people picking something right there, unless the dreaded nil-nil happens. No United, but the key I think will picking the right scorer in Norwich-Burnley.

Pity about Arsenal. Killed me on my USDT long acca. Watched the first half and they were pretty okay without being really threatening but Palace were menacing with results. Could have been because Martinelli wasn't playing, Zaha at his physical, pacey, jinking best.

@LFC_Bitcoin, Trofo. Odds to me a pretty good value for Liverpool at home, pays much better than any of our recent games (almost 15/10). Benfica are no pushovers but we usually like playing Portuguese teams who, to their credit, don't change much even when facing supposedly attacking teams -- case in point Ajax. Very narrow, counter-loving, almost like an Atletico but with more class IMO. It won't be an open Porto 4-3-3 team in case we've gotten so used to that!

I've committed all of my remaining season bankroll to tonight/weekend games -- including on Atletico (10/1). So I either end Sunday with nothing left or with a lot more than I started. City do have the depth, but this is going to be their toughest 2 weeks so I'm really hoping for fireworks! They play us both times home, so bookies rightly have them as favourites both games -- but underdog tag against the big boys always suits us!

LFC: Pics if you're at Anfield on Benfica visit!

Re all the talk on Atletico-City, the tie has now breached 10/1 odds on the Spanish team to win. When the draw first came out, odds were 85/10 and has been edging ever higher. No surprise, since City are UCL favourites, odds favourites, ranking favourites, statistical favourites, etc.

But City have never quite met Atletico, who've become more and more like their old selves, the ones Liverpool found hard to beat: stubborn, negative, anti-football.

We've all seen City frustrated by far less. So that's my super pick of the week: Atletico outright in

Yeah, I'm keen on Rangers. They've been rocked in the Scottish league though, losing the title to Celtic inch by inch, and the weekend's defeat would be a hammer blow, after winning so many of those clashes in recent times.

I've stopped betting on them after Gerrard left, odds simply aren't good enough after their performance last season but I think Rangers winning and scoring 2 goals sounds like a value bet for what should be a lively affair. They'll get shit odds at home though if they do that (making Braga the value on return leg).

Add me to the BTTS crying party. I was so certain Juve-Inter would get down and dirty, and then they went and joined the 1-nil Italian nostalgia team heh.


That was my final bet and last hope on Sportsbet until next week. Only bet alive now settles end of season. I've not had a zero balance there for a while but it's been weeks of terribly betting (I think even months) this season, in general. Normally I always end up a week with still something but it's a message for me to just chill.

Time to use up my 20 USDT ...

Didn't see this before NotATether, always curious about these types of efforts, having actually been somewhat involved in past endeavours -- none of which, sadly, are still around, at least not in the shape I first knew them as.

The concept of a public-participation bankroll was always the coolest aspect for me -- Bitvest is the only one still doing that, I've participated in that but also in 999 (not for the site but for the in-game exchange bot), Yolodice even for a while, CryptoGames -- have been really lucky to profit pretty well from all of them (overall).

The most interesting was the global bankroll of MoneyPot (the original, not the ones with a recent project thread) -- that one by sheer luck I'd withdrawn my shares just before it rekt'd of the investors.

The glaring issue with those was custodial aspect. Literally handing over funds to the casino and hope they don't run away with it, or have an exploitable bug in one of their casino apps (as in case of MoneyPot, to roughly explain).

With smart contract functionality, I'm actually somewhat surprised there hasn't been a successor to all these casino-managed bankrolls as a form of trustless management. Be super cool if you'd work on that (since you're coding). I imagine it would be much harder for a Bitcoin bankroll, but not impossible (I speak without any sense of coding knowledge).

Would it be useful to get in touch with former operators of related sites? Or you really just want to get at this from scratch?

@MinMan then keep an eye out for the regular promos, there's practically one every few days. Them Arsenal wear especially are going to be collector items. A correct score bet on them against Palace tickles my fancy. 3-1?

@dezoel To each his own, of course I was slightly exaggerating how much I hate internationals but a question does crop up every now and then on why Europe doesn't just do a proper football calendar like the rest of the world (then one big break in between seasons for all internationals). I know it's not as simple as that (seasons play a part I guess, e.g. Africa not nice to play in the hottest months) but part of the problem is how the seasons don't sync. The Americas, Asia, all play a full season in a calendar year (Africa follows Europe I think for the most, but they start really late anyway might as well push it to start the next year).

Anyway, I'll take international over no football any day.

No more merits or I'd shove them around, but yes, technically, franky's right. The final coin will actually never be mined, so it's the penultimate coin that's more predictable.

Not sure I can ever contribute useful thoughts to how the Bitcoin economy can remain interesting for miners at that stage but I do agree that utility is probably a huge part of any future solution. It's a likelihood we'll get to see some significant upgrade or change to Bitcoin's algorithm in our life time (or my life time anyway), but we'd definitely need to continue the trend of increasing utility to motivate that.

Spurs, what can I say? Haven't seen Conte celebrate like that for a while. Or I haven't watched enough Spurs games.


The same supercomputer predicted Liverpool above Chelsea last year (this was when Chelsea were top) and 5/1 to win Champions League, a bit better than bookies at the time. It's already a bit off though as winner was supposed to end with less than 90 points, that's when I knew it was a dumb computer cause everyone knows City can't do below 90 points heh. Speaking of, how many of you guys look at FiveThirtyEight or Opta to help you bet?

I stick to form, followed by bookie odds (but the odds help me to bet where the value is actually), but I don't pay any attention to Opta. I've seen them put chances to win on 4/1 odds at 2% at kick off.


Yeah, and they were in cruise control if we're being fair, while we had a bit more of a fight -- I'm just hoping Salah's frustrations turn into gold next Sunday.

Gomez's star seemed to wane for me in recent times so I'm also really pleased he took responsibility -- even the yellow he earned sort of proved this.

Odds for Liverpool dipped just below 34/10 after the weekend. I'm definitely going to wait for a Super Boost on the day itself, though if we beat Benfica I think the money will pile on Liverpool.

So I did overestimate Real, actually, even if they did win, thought they'd do so comfortably. Also didn't watch the match but every non-Spanish report I can find seems to say they were either lucky to win, or didn't deserve to get even a point. Lovely, and a shame I had them on ticket but other teams didn't secure legs.

Still looking forward to final game tonight, got points in pool but too many goals for me to even get close haha, Barca HT lead is the leg I need to sleep with a smile.

^^ Thanks for more information and yes, I think the discouragement has worked in general, we don't even see anymore of those dust sprays (that I even got around 2017) from people just spreading their taint randomly but I guess I was wondering about legacy services especially, when it was fairly common to get 1 bits from people here and there. I know I certainly did but consolidated in good time.

And yes, wonder what those 0-fee txs are doing. They'd have to also be large txs (data wise) to indicate dust consolidation. Might even be a pretty cool "community service" for a miner to do, perhaps at some point as a collaboration, to offer free consolidation, perhaps in low network periods, which there always will be -- or perhaps much farther down the line when layer 2s have become the norm. I imagine all that recoverable dust could end up being significant at a user level anyway.

(My Sunday dribbling thoughts anyway, I might DM that guy and see if he still has his issues).

^Yeah, watching here. Politano just stole in from a freekick to take it 0-2.

EPL feed shitty and got a nice English feed for the match but man, Atalanta-Napoli was a treat to watch from the kickoff. The football wasn't so beautiful, Atalanta finishing is so puzzling but I kind of enjoy games played at frantic pace and of course, when the players have some sort of skill. First 15 minutes was a blast, barely 15 seconds possession before changing hands, Mertens smash and grab on a counter, kinda a shitty penalty as he definitely knew what he was doing but at least you get that VAR consistency (see England, it's not THAT hard to do). Looked like keeper almost got a hand to the pen but it was cleanly hit, would have gone in anyway am sure.

But man, show me one international game in the past 2 weeks that had THIS intensity... well okay, I exaggerate but whatever

So both games ended with Overs on the points total, but from the look of it, only Kansas won this with some certainty. 42 years for college-level coach, that's something special even for an outsider like me to hear it. That still the norm there I guess? In football, even at amateur level now, if you get to past a decade as the head coach, and you're a rarity. Sign of the times or just a trend that's been evolving?

Anyway, good luck to you peeps on the finals. Don't see myself putting money down unless a special comes out!