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481  Local / Débutants / Re: Frais de transaction & CO on: December 10, 2017, 05:59:05 PM
mais 12€ de frais peut importe le niveau de priorité de la transaction qu'on choisit, wtf ? normal ?

Normal.

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin (en bas à droite)

0.0008 BTC de frais réseau.
482  Local / Débutants / Re: Frais de transaction & CO on: December 10, 2017, 05:55:50 PM
et des 170k transactions en attente...

73 000 ce dimanche soir ... un réseau, ça bosse 24h/24.
483  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 05:44:52 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-09/new-cme-bitcoin-futures-and-goldman-sachs-connection

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“CME Group's Bitcoin futures will be cash-settled, based on the CME CF Bitcoin Reference Rate (BRR) which serves as a once-a-day reference rate of the U.S. dollar price of bitcoin.  

Since November 2016, CME Group and Crypto Facilities Ltd. have calculated and published the BRR, which aggregates the trade flow of major bitcoin spot exchanges during a calculation window into the U.S. Dollar price of one bitcoin as of 4:00 p.m. London time.

The BRR is designed around the IOSCO Principles for Financial Benchmarks.

Bitstamp, GDAX, itBit and Kraken are the constituent exchanges that currently contribute the pricing data for calculating the BRR.”


A reference rate / benchmark calculated in the City of London that is used as a basis for the settlement of multi-billion dollar financial contracts.

Wait, where have we heard that before ?

484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-09/bitcoin-just-brilliant-wealth-redistribution-scheme

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A similar argument applies to the status-quo elite, who have greatly benefited from the corrupt system and see bitcoin as a risk to that system.

This group includes almost all government officials—especially central bankers—and politicians, as well as the private banking elite.
They are incentivized to defend the old system at all costs, but would be smart to hedge their exposure. Some may be doing so in secret.

So these are the first intellectual hurdles to overcome: understanding that our current money system is severely flawed, and that to prosper and make progress, humanity needs an alternative.

To fully understand this, many people spend a few years researching history and economics away from mainstream educational propaganda.
485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-09/crypto-cornucopia-part-4-without-it-youre-talking-mad-max

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Yet we just said that to clean up the market would discover 10%, 20%, 40% fake shares, fake business values, fake pension values, therefore fake GDP values, and fake GDP to Debt ratios, and therefore would perhaps lead to an accurate Debt to GDP of 140%, which would crash the U.S. dollar and possibly the nation.

Would a complete U.S. financial collapse lead to a nuclear war?

And it all goes back to fraud we didn’t stop 20 years ago.
How do you solve the problem?

The only way out without collapse is to build an honest system parallel to the existing system and slowly transfer assets from the rotten, sinking ship to the new one.

The captains of the old ship may not like it, but look at the incentives. No one can tolerate the old ship except the pirate captain; even the crew, the stock traders, don’t want or control it any more.

486  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Prix ahurissant chez coinbase ! on: December 10, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
et BTC/EUR, c'est quoi ... alors ?  Wink

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et chercher EUR.
487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 03:23:39 PM
 Grin they accept paypal to ... discharge the exchange ?
488  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: December 10, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Upgrade instructions to pass in Python v3.4 (in French) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114415.msg26086837#msg26086837

Initial Tutorial (in French) for the initial Python v2.7 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114415.0


Take time to understand the pip & wheel install & upgrade ... science (i'm not a linux user).
489  Local / Mining et Hardware / Re: Comment miner (des bitcoins) soi-même avec un serveur P2Pool. on: December 10, 2017, 02:55:33 PM
Passage à Python 3.4.4 chez moi, voici la procédure :

- désinstaller tout python et les trucs associés (issus de Python 2.7 comme wmi, pywin32, twisted et zope) dans le panneau de configuration
- redémarrez le PC
- virez à la main, le répertoire python27

- téléchargez python-3.4.4.amd64.msi et installez et redémarrez

- taper "touche Windows" + R
- taper "pip install --upgrade pip" et attendre ...

- taper "touche Windows" + R
- taper "pip install wheel" et attendre ...

- taper "touche Windows" + R
- taper "pip install Twisted" et attendre ... (se termine par du rouge mais on s'en branle)

- téléchargez pywin32-218.win-amd64-py3.4.exe et installez et redémarrez

- téléchargez WMI-1.4.9.win32.exe et installez et redémarrez

- taper "touche Windows" + R
- taper "pip list" pour voir ce qui est installé ... Twisted n'apparaît pas, c'est normal (il fonctionne à moitié et suffisant pour le P2Pool, Twisted n'est pas entièrement compatible avec Python 3)

- taper "touche Windows" + R
- taper "python --version" pour voir si c'est bien en v3.4.4
- fini

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J'ai eu besoin de faire cela à cause de plus en plus de corruption de SHARES de la P2Pool ... à cause du Fork de la v17 (qui refuse les SHARES non-segwit des v16 de la P2Pool).

Et y'en a encore un tas qui ne sont pas en v17 donc qui minent pour rien (leurs SHARES en v16 ne sont pas comptabilisés).

C'est vrai que l'usage RAM et les SHARES v17 sont stables maintenant.
490  Local / Débutants / Re: Transac bloquer depuis 9 jours on: December 10, 2017, 02:38:46 PM
Pur hasard ... et en voici des exemples de temps de confirmation pour des frais ridicules en période de MEMpool saturée sans "accélérateur" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1417123.msg20286667#msg20286667
491  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Congestion du réseau ! De plus en plus de problèmes pour échanger des BTC ? on: December 10, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
oyé, mon gars ... as-tu simplement regardé les fonds avant de les utiliser ?
(première chose qu'on fait avant de dépenser)

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/address/3CFgyPN1BX7cc7XztZ3t1mo3FbHt7boCwm

qui pointe là : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/3b971f4ef85a9148e6c8bac7c00bb8a505d05ac4992f278733c153c89a470114

Avec des adresses (sur 405 !!!) qui ont des fonds non-confirmés avant les tiens.
492  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: des raisons valables pour ce bear trap ? on: December 09, 2017, 06:17:37 PM
Pas mal ... même si tout le monde s'y attendait

493  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
For your entertainment and viewing pleasure.



494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2017, 06:03:45 PM








495  Local / Échanges / Re: Aucun moyen d'annuler un transfert au départ de blockchain.info ? on: December 09, 2017, 02:42:32 PM
Non, pas de chargeback (annulation de transaction réalisée et enregistrée en MEMpool) sur Bitcoin.

C'est une des rêgles de base ... fallait lire un peu avant de voir du "pognon" lors de tentatives d'arbitrages.
496  Local / Débutants / Re: Problème vérification méthode de paiement, Coinbase on: December 09, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
 Roll Eyes et tu crois que pour revendre son or à une banque, c'est plus facile ?
ben non.
497  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Congestion du réseau ! De plus en plus de problèmes pour échanger des BTC ? on: December 09, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
tu calcules pas, le logiciel le fait pour toi.
 Roll Eyes et s'il le fait pas, jette-moi cette idiotie !

exemple de frais (tableau en bas qui défile : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin )
exemple : 0.0011 BTC de frais réseau.
498  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Pourquoi la bourse est différente du Bitcoin. Pourquoi ce dernier est honnête. on: December 09, 2017, 02:26:17 PM
5ème exemple : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/crypto-cornucopia-part-3-system-no-justice-no-order-no-rules-no-predictability

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stocks have the same problem.

Since the digital age began, the problem of clearing stock trades has steadily increased. Eventually, the NYSE trading volume was so large they couldn’t clear at all, and the SEC let trading houses net their internal trades, only rectifying the mismatches between brokerages.

Eventually, that was too large, and they created the DTCC as a central holder and clearing house.

Yet, in an age of online trading and high-frequency trading mainframes, it became apparent there was no way to clear even residual trades, and they effectively no longer try, and the SEC, instead of forcing them to compliance, lets them.

There are 300M failed stock trades a day and $50B a day in bond failures, or $12 Trillion year in bonds alone.

And so?

If you sell your stocks and bonds, the brokerage makes it come out whole, so what?
499  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: preuve que le systéme bancaire mondiale va tomber on: December 09, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/crypto-cornucopia-part-3-system-no-justice-no-order-no-rules-no-predictability

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No normal economy could do this.
No normal business model could do this.

Only a business now based on nothing, issuing nothing, with no restraint and no oversight.

And the FIRE sector kept growing, through 15%, 20%, 25% until today most of U.S. GDP is either Finance selling the same instruments back and forth by borrowing new money or GDP created by governments borrowing and spending.

Remember when we started, banks paid 4% and charged at 8%.

Now they openly take savings with negative interest rates, and charge at 30% or higher on a credit card balance averaging $16,000.
500  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Certains graphiques qui sont plus parlant qu'un texte. on: December 09, 2017, 02:15:54 PM
Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-08/crypto-cornucopia-part-3-system-no-justice-no-order-no-rules-no-predictability

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