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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 04:42:25 PM
"patently wrong"? I dont know what you mean... exactly what correction you want made? I don't think you understand thr particulars of this investment... I could be wrong of course.

The OP shouldn't say the money supply is 200+ M coins if that supply won't be reached for 180 years. It's unreasonable to have 200+ M in there because it shouldn't factor into anyone's calculations. No one is buying GE stock based on 180 year projections. They certainly shouldn't be using 180 year projections to value altcoins.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 03:55:35 PM
What do you mean 200mm coins?  Isn't it 18.5mm coins at launch, then Bergstake starts with only 1mm per year?

Bitcoin Clone
Pure Proof-of-Bergstake
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoB Block Reward: 1 million coins annually ~5.71 BRO block reward
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)
The OP needs updating, because it should be something like 19.23 M coins at launch.

If the BTC price is $400, this makes the market cap $7.7 M at the 1000 BRO/BTC pricing.

The 200 M+ total coins is probably the money supply after several years of staking.
Staking is capped at 1 million coins per year. It would take more than 180 years to get to 200 on staking. And it is "200 + million".

The BTC current price is just under $340. The average price of the IPO is supposed to be around 4000 BRO per BTC. Do the math.

I don't keep up with the BTC price, but as you note the "200+" is patently wrong and should be corrected.
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: October 29, 2014, 03:52:40 PM
I bought BLOCK with SWIFT and it gave me an exchange of 0.000133.

That was close to the trading price at the time, but nowhere close to the recent average. SWIFT dumped like crazy yesterday. Why was the price not an average based on history as promised.

If SWIFT had pumped would it have been more valuable? There really seems to be something wrong here. I've seen others complain but were ignored.

Also, this ignores the 10% discount, which couldn't have been applied.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: October 29, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
Hey so all the coins are sold out now for exchange??

We can only use BTC now to buy ITO tokens?Huh

Fawk that was quick, damn it!
 Cry

Damnit, I had to stay up until an ungodly hour to buy BLOCK.

You can't sleep in crypto.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
What do you mean 200mm coins?  Isn't it 18.5mm coins at launch, then Bergstake starts with only 1mm per year?

Bitcoin Clone
Pure Proof-of-Bergstake
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoB Block Reward: 1 million coins annually ~5.71 BRO block reward
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)


The OP needs updating, because it should be something like 19.23 M coins at launch.

If the BTC price is $400, this makes the market cap $7.7 M at the 1000 BRO/BTC pricing.

The 200 M+ total coins is probably the money supply after several years of staking.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SWIFT] BitSwift | 100% PoS w/ 4mil Total Supply (PoD + Crypto Certify) on: October 29, 2014, 08:20:59 AM
Everyone just needs to calm the F down. Someone is running bots to drive the price down to accumulate. We need some folks to bot the price up if we want to it to recover.  Cool

Buy at the bottom. Don't worry about recovery. Turn the graph upside-down if it makes you feel better.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 07:33:39 AM
Yes, now it's on block 327467
https://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount


I guess there's still few minutes to buy @ 6600 BRO per btc  Wink

Nope. Too late. 327467 is the last at 6600 and it's been mined already.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 07:31:42 AM
looks like blockchain.info is way behind. here is an alternate: https://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount

block 327468 is new price 6000 BRO per btc

Update the OP with the new number!
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 06:57:55 AM
So let me get this right.
Initially there were 5.5 million BRO in the ICO, and there seemed to be pretty low interest, at best the ICO would probably have raised 400BTC, meaning the market price would have been about 13 750 BRO per BTC.

Now they are setting a fixed price of 6600 BRO per BTC, and everyone seems very excited to invest. Do you guys not realize they just pulled a very clever move on you and you are now getting way less BRO for your BTC?

I invested in the original ICO which seemed like a good deal, but now that I will get less than half the coins it seemed like I would receive I will have to ask for a refund and hope to maybe be able to get a good deal in the "private" sale later.

I don't know if you are trying to fud or what, but the total number of coins haven't changed. The 5.5 M you quote needs to be added to 7 M that would have been mined. The new deal is better.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: October 29, 2014, 04:39:36 AM
Nice wallet.


491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: October 29, 2014, 04:05:18 AM

When is the ITO live?
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 03:58:41 AM
1. there will be exactly 12.5 million Bergstake, forever.

2.  I would think so, as long as the reward is incentive enough to "mine". also the gaming company has a vested interested in securing the coin, and would educate holders to continuously run full "mining" nodes.  

I couldn't seem to find the block reward. Is it posted somewhere?
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SWIFT] BitSwift | 100% PoS w/ 4mil Total Supply (PoD + Crypto Certify) on: October 29, 2014, 03:48:49 AM
My buy order got filled at 13.5 k satoshis lollll
We can buy again at ico price 8500 ?

LOL not gonna happen. I'll scoop up all 350 btc worth at that price...

Lmao, we know your out of bitswift now bob...just feel sorry for the suckers left holding the bags

You guys never know when I'm in a coin or not.. You all like to think you know my moves, but the truth is..... you guys never know about them.

#TrueTalk

I'm here to help you guys understand Bob's moves right now.

If you appreciate the insight, send swift here: bKK8vAFmMVHZqVY93u3RBWHrrWYMBGTThU

Be reminded, I don't need to know anything about Bob except his post history and publicly available market information to tell you what is happening.

Bob is not out of swift. He's probably more loaded on swift than any other coin. How do I know? Bob doesn't post on threads where he doesn't have holdings. It's not worth his time. He's rich, remember? And time is money.

Now, what's he doing with swift? Well right now he and his team are purposefully pushing the swift price artificially low. Why would he do that? The reason should be obvious: to buy. But is Bob buying to pump or what? Not necessarily. He's not buying to pump. He might pump with the leftovers. He's buying to get into blocknet:

"For pricing, we'll pick prices of Blocknet tokens at the start time of the ICO based on a recent average (exact algorithm TBD). Then we'll deduct 10%, and put up a sell wall there."

The recent average takes into account more than the few hours that swift has been dumping. He's going to buy cheap swift and convert them to expensive blocknet. When he is unable to buy blocknet with swift, you will see the price rise again to some market-determined level. He may pump from there or not.

With this information in hand, you should be able to time the bottom of this dump. I'll leave figuring that out to you.

Now, let me make another prediction: there will be plenty of suckers to keep dumping coins into his bots until he flips those coins for a lot of profit.
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 12:18:04 AM
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
K.  After the 48 midnight, BRO @6000 BRO per btc for a 7 day period.

Make this about 2 days instead of 7 and then it starts to make sense. This ICO is already something like a week old.
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 29, 2014, 12:15:53 AM
Don't think there were ever a 2x bonus.  IIRC, think it was 10% for early buyers was the initial term.
-tb-

There was a 2x bonus. That was yesterday's announcement.
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* 48hr 2x BONUS!! |Breakout|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:05:09 PM

If there is an extension of the 6000 BRO/BTC period beyond tomorrow at 7 pm PST, please make an announcement here.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* 48hr 2x BONUS!! |Breakout|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 06:59:59 AM

If we make multiple payments to the ICO separated in time, will the Bergstake be split among those payments, or lumped?
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:42:12 AM
Obviously I am on the other side of that fence. In my favor that only minimal investment has come so far, I believe in part because people need time to get their minds around the entire concept, perhaps do some research of gaming sites, accumulate BTC, etc. Although I am aware that this project is different, Ethereum did not put any pressure in time and the money came flooding. So did for SuperNET. I am quite convinced that adequately presented to the crypto community this will be fully subscribed before the original ICO period is over. People should be rushed by the fear not to be on time to benefit from the IPO price because people would buy all available coins/bergstake, NOT because the devs need a quarter of a million dollars to finish a working platform.

I could be wrong, of course

It's implicit that they are coming to the crypto community for seed money. It's a high risk, but if you look at their ICO structure, potentially high reward.
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* 48hr 2x BONUS!! |Breakout|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:28:01 AM
is that how Nxt works? this is a bit different. will show some pseudo-code asap.

the more bergstake the higher the probability of winning the lottery. the number of digits in the lottery gets smaller. the reward is always the same. and yes, micro-investors also have .01 bergstake, and can play the lotto 24/7 , probably better odds then power ball!

I don't know how NXT works. But if the investment proportionality comes in at the block reward, then the way I describe is the way to do it.

Making the chances to sign a block based on the size of the Bergstake share works just as well. The only problem is that small-time-investors will be split into two groups: lottery winners and also-rans.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming on: October 28, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
-- I believe you should extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO + 6,000 bergstake until the end of the ICO.  After that, the market will determine the price of BRO.

The ICO effectively extends until all the coins allotted for it have sold. If they don't tier pricing until those coins are gone, then the only investment strategy is wait and see. But with a wait and see market, funds never become available to achieve the development goals. People end up waiting to see for ever and the project never releases.
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