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pretty sure some new machines are coming online, avg hashrate seems to be increasing consistently
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This is public news and on every security page on the web. Do your homework before insulting others!
It seems they fixed it now...
your still a fucking idiot for posting that they might have been vulnerable. why not just send them a PM? |
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All good, havelockinvestments.com seems not affected!what are you talking about? and what sort of asshole would post an exploit to a securities exchange on a public forum? you obviously have your own motive. havelock, if you could get trading resumed as soon as it would make my day that little bit better.
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Guys is havelock working properly?
I posted some orders but all are on pending status and are not visible on order book
yea - something is wrong. there hasn't been any trades in hours. it should all be back up when they get online, they don't usually work out of hours. sooo. i've got 22 at 0.05223 - what orders were you putting in? feel free to sell into them  |
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They were producing Coincraft Desk units (up to 1Th/s per unit). Rigs are more powerful, up to 2Th/s, and more power efficient.
I think they have to test new motherboards for rig units. Revision 1 and Revision 2 boards had samo problems (stability, power). They are waiting for Rev 3 boards coming in tomorrow.
BTW, 1 hour average hashrate now at 186 188 Th/s.
its going up and up |
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You know what they say... "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
As I've said earlier price started at 0.0001 when stock got re-listed and moved up to triple the value even before this wall.
Look, we're not going to agree. I have no ulterior motives as I don't own the stock. I'm just saying, what you are suggesting doesn't fit the situation at all. But it looked like a classic pump and dump, they even split out the buy walls out at the same price to make it look like there is more support. Why would you do this if you weren't trying to hike the price up? |
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No, you don't get it.
What just happened was obvious, I've seen it hundreds of times, your just trying to manipulate it to fill your own agenda.
I'm ending this, it's clear we are not going to agree.
If anyone comes out and buys half a million shares over the next day or two then ill know you we're right. But that's not going to happen.
They were trying to make a quick profit, and it worked initially, until the market stopped responding, and they got hit.
If you'd ever tried to manipulate a market before you would understand.
Let me give you an example. Say I want to buy Neobee shares, ok? I want them at cheapest price possible. Key is to buy without driving up the price. If there are big desperate sellers out there I want to give them the chance to sell at a low price their whole amount, thus placing a big order makes sense and I won't drive up the price like crazy. Seller doesn't know I'm ready to bid up to say 0.0009 so he'd be happy to sell me at 0.0003 a big chunk. On the other hand, if I keep the sell wall for too long, I'll drive up the price in no time. Of course if I leave wall out for too long, others will get ideas that something's going on and will try to front run me, so makes sense to remove the wall for frenzy to go away to give chance again to buy low. This was an interesting test that showed to amazement of some there are no huge sellers out there. What I would do I were that buyer, I'd just put smaller buy orders every now and then to catch the smaller fish. Of course takes patience and can be boring. Big guys have small fish that do this boring task for them. That's a pointless test given the situation. Firstly, there are not enough people with 500k+ shares, or even 50k+ shares to sell out that quickly Secondly, given the uncertainty, it would have been obvious as soon as a buy order that big is placed the market would shoot up almost immediately Why wouldn't they just save the hassle and get a cheaper price by buying the shares off exchange? Also, if they were buying they would only be doing it on insider information, so why would they stop on a sunday evening right before the week starts and business starts moving again? Potentially losing out on there advantage as more information comes to light? Why wouldn't they just do thre obvious thing and do what either i have suggested iabove or you have suggested with the slow orders? It's a pretty idea but it doesn't fit at all with the situation, anyone with that sort of funds trying to do what you are saying could have done it many other ways in allot better fashion It doesn't make sense. Yet, a pump and dump makes perfect sense and falls perfectly inline with what we saw. I'm out. You seem like a nice and smart guy, but I think your looking far too much into this to get the outcome you want. |
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Guys. Be careful though. If this wall goes your all fucked.
+1 Classic pump and dump with one big player controlling the entire market This isn't going to end well, you're all getting played. Don't be a bagholder Oh look, a total newbie who's never replied to a NeoBee thread before, who is using the terminology 'bagholder'. Now there's only one other person on these forums who uses that term... Wow. Who's the total newbie now? I sincerely hope you lost allot of money in that pump and dump. People like you are what's wrong with this community There's someone buying testing the market. This wasn't a pump. If that was the case they would have put the wall back in at a lower price. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck... No because he wants to test support he will try again but wants to see where price action is. A few sold into that wall but idea was to check if there are any big sellers out there that would eat out the wall entirely. There weren't any big sellers. Wall was there for quite some time. Wow. You actually believe that? The wall would have gone within hours. Any serious investor isn't going to pull an order out twenty minutes after putting it in just because it didnt get instant action - there is nobody with 500k shares to fill that order - and considering there was about 20k that got taken out of it, there was serious action, if they had any actual intentions of buying and holding they wouldn't have removed the wall at all It worked for a while until a few less delusional people on this forum called it out and stopped allot of weaker hands falling for this shit. As soon as people stopped placing higher buy support the wall went, the pump was over. On the plus side whoever just tried that pump and dump most likely lost allot of money. With people like you running around though its surprising they didn't make a profit You don't get it. This is the toe dipping Soros strategy to check selling power, how easy is to buy. This gives you a good indicator especially if you wanna start a buying spree. In this case a fat order like that could be filled in by a big desperate seller fast which would tell you there are lots of big whale sellers out there and you can play that to your advantage. No, you don't get it. What just happened was obvious, I've seen it hundreds of times, your just trying to manipulate it to fill your own agenda.. If anyone comes out and buys half a million shares over the next day or two then ill know you we're right. But that's not going to happen. They were trying to make a quick profit, and it worked initially, until the market stopped responding, and they got hit. If you'd ever tried to manipulate a market before you would understand. I'm ending this, it's clear we are not going to agree |
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Guys. Be careful though. If this wall goes your all fucked.
+1 Classic pump and dump with one big player controlling the entire market This isn't going to end well, you're all getting played. Don't be a bagholder Oh look, a total newbie who's never replied to a NeoBee thread before, who is using the terminology 'bagholder'. Now there's only one other person on these forums who uses that term... Wow. Who's the total newbie now? I sincerely hope you lost allot of money in that pump and dump. People like you are what's wrong with this community There's someone buying testing the market. This wasn't a pump. If that was the case they would have put the wall back in at a lower price. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck... No because he wants to test support he will try again but wants to see where price action is. A few sold into that wall but idea was to check if there are any big sellers out there that would eat out the wall entirely. There weren't any big sellers. Wall was there for quite some time. Wow. You actually believe that? The wall would have gone within hours. Any serious investor isn't going to pull an order out twenty minutes after putting it in just because it didnt get sold into straight away - there is nobody with 500k shares to fill that order - and considering there was about 20k that got taken out of it, there was serious action, if they had any actual intentions of buying and holding they wouldn't have removed the wall at all. This is the clearest pump and dump since fontas used to publicly announce them on twitter It worked for a while until a few less delusional people on this forum called it out and stopped allot of weaker hands falling for this shit. As soon as people stopped placing higher buy support the wall went, the pump was over. On the plus side whoever just tried that pump and dump most likely lost allot of money. With people like you running around though its surprising they didn't make a profit It's crazy how delusional some people are when the facts are right in front of them. Either that or they have no idea what they are doing... Which is actually most likely the case with most of the people on this forum, and especially in this thread. /rant |
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Guys. Be careful though. If this wall goes your all fucked.
+1 Classic pump and dump with one big player controlling the entire market This isn't going to end well, you're all getting played. Don't be a bagholder Oh look, a total newbie who's never replied to a NeoBee thread before, who is using the terminology 'bagholder'. Now there's only one other person on these forums who uses that term... Wow. Who's the total newbie now? I sincerely hope you lost allot of money in that pump and dump. People like you are what's wrong with this community There's someone buying testing the market. This wasn't a pump. If that was the case they would have put the wall back in at a lower price. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck... Then nobody listens anyway and calls it a dog because that falls in line with their prerogative It was clearly a pump and dump. Jesus Christ people, it's over now and you still can't see that? |
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Guys. Be careful though. If this wall goes your all fucked.
+1 Classic pump and dump with one big player controlling the entire market This isn't going to end well, you're all getting played. Don't be a bagholder Oh look, a total newbie who's never replied to a NeoBee thread before, who is using the terminology 'bagholder'. Now there's only one other person on these forums who uses that term... Wow. Who's the total newbie now? I sincerely hope you lost allot of money in that pump and dump. People like you are what's wrong with this community |
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Guys. Be careful though. If this wall goes your all fucked.
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If there is any money left after that, presumably it would be distributed to the shareholders. Is that correct?
Only, keep in mind that – unless I'm mistaken – NEOBEE "shares" aren't real company shares, are just "shares on future profits", which makes them exactly worthless. Corporate bonds should be worthless by your definition. The Neobee shares listed on Havelock entitle the owner to 100% of all dividends until 2x the IPO price/share has been paid. However, if we look at another Bitcoin company that shall not be named here, they've transformed "profit shares" into full company shares recently. Neo shares might follow same model and be converted into full company shares. This would make sense, it would give Danny a bit of breathing space. I'm still going down the buyer route. Someone could buy neobee for a few thousand BTC, an amount that is child's play to allot of early adopters. Lets see if this wall gets eaten into |
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Someones put in a buy order for 600k+ shares. You think he knows something we don't? That's a huge gamble if he doesn't.
If the company goes bankrupt, its assets (including any remaining BTC, by logic) will be sold, and the money thus collected will be used to pay debts and the fees of bankruptcy lawyers and executors. If there is any money left after that, presumably it would be distributed to the shareholders. Is that correct? In that case, the buy/sell price posted by a trader shoud reflect his expectation about the amount of money that may be distributed to investors. Insiders obviously have an advantage there. The CEO of a failing bitcoin enterprise may be tempted to take any remaining bitcoins for himself, since they are "virtual" and their accounting is more easily faked. Hopefully the bankruptcy executors/courts will be smart enough to prevent that. (The "standard script" for failing bitcoin enterprises calls for a "hacker" supposedly stealing a good part of the bitcoins. But that act has already been played out in this case, yes?) Either that or they have found a buyer. I'm not an investor, but this is fucking interesting. That sort of order, especially as its getting eaten into, means someone has allot of faith in the future of neobee. Either that or they have $90,000 to throw away. |
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Someones put in a buy order for 600k+ shares. You think he knows something we don't? That's a huge gamble if he doesn't.
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Well, I would say it's for people who are a bit lazy to research mining operators on their own (if that does any good) or just want to spread the risk investing in one mining "mutual fund" instead of buying stocks of individual miners. Basically you pay CACTUS % of your earnings to make investment for you. You will see more and more of these funds popping out.
Yes funds like this are popping up, but professional funds, not this kid who has no idea what he's doing. WHERES THE VERIFICATION? WHERES HIS PORTFOLIO LISTED? HOW DO YOU KNOW HE HAS EVEN INVESTED YOUR MONEY? Ffs people. Find somewhere else to invest your money I mean seriously, LOOK AT HIS ANALYSIS. THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE. EVEN SOMEONE WITHOUT ANY UNDERSTANDING OF BITCOIN COULD INVEST YOUR MONEY BETTER. I mean shit, LOOK AT THE CRYPTOSTOCKS PAGE. It basicly says "goto our website, it tells you all about are investments and gives you loads of information that will ease your mind, and tells you all about where we chose to invest" BULLSHIT. IT'S JUST THE SAME SALES PITCH ON THE WEBSITE. THERE IS NO INFORMATION. Jesus Christ people, this is a Ponzi scheme IF YOUR LUCKY Best thing to do, is find his personal details, so at least when he runs with your money you can chase him down. You think those personal details are really his? HE HASN'T EVEN TOLD YOU WHICH ONES. You deserve to lose your money |
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Finally found that bcmine user has his own thread, and is running his own portfolio with a fund at cryptostocks. No wonder he is here, spreading FUD on competition...
Yea. And he runs a bot. comes here, chats shit, creates volatility, bot orders gets filled. Fucking hate that useless peice of shit I'd say with almost 100% certainty he is going to run away with their money, so I've made it my personal mission everytime he comes here to inform his shareholders of how intelligent he actually is, and how much of a sham his 'project' is Fucking asshole. People like that are so lucky they have the Internet to hide behind |
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I think there is something fishy going on at Bitmine, I don't know what kind of a deal Cryptx have with Bitmine regarding the delayed Hardware and if there will be compensation and how much it will be.
but something is wrong at Bitmine and I don't know what the exact story is, they are not speaking and they are taking the easy way of things, I also find the way they've changed their attitude toward customers (now they are being all sweet and nice) really suspicious, although the timing is kind of funny, now that most people didn't receive their hardware and they entitled to a refund based on the TOS agreed on at the purchase. (60 days delay equal a refund + 10% penalty) for those who paid with BTC back at November/December it makes perfect sense to ask for a refund, you would get more BTC than you paid, these machines wouldn't ROI anyways. so there is that.
I just find it really strange that Chinese copies of the based A1 chip rigs are going on a really worrying rate (not to mention the price) while Bitmine fails to deliver the simplest orders and fail to even have a working Rig design.
I think this is why the share price is going down, people are are afraid about the worst scenario, it is humans being humans, usually the price would go back when there is a clear picture of the situation (or drop forward if the news is bad).
Thinking about it, the worst case is they continue delivering at the rate they are delivering now, but that will still keep us up with the difficulty rises for the next month or two, after that we have our own production and reinvestment money that is being spent elsewhere. We're not stuck with these guys for long, and crazy enough, I actually believe cryptX when he said they have the best intentions, I'm sure they will sort there shit out soon Watch though, we will add another 50 units next week and everything will go back to "yay cryptX" and people will start to realise again the true value of this project I can't complain, I'm not exactly less fickle than most of the investors here |
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If anyone wants to sell 1000+ shares to me @ 0.045 please PM me
 Hi! Wanting back in? How the price is going  , sure there will be offers... Not from me - not that big! I bet I don't get any offers. Too many people here on this forum spreading FUD that don't actually own any shares. All the big shareholders and long term and staying quiet, they will have the last laugh Remember, there is allot of market manipulation going on. People selling off huge amounts, coming here to post how shit this project is then waiting for someone else to sell and buying back in for a lower price Ignore the shareprice. The dividends tell the best story, and @ 65% they speak for themselves. So many people will be kicking themselves for no investing now in a few weeks. Price is ridiculously low |
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Ok
thanks everyone
I get bitcoin on Friday, hopefully the share price won't jump up till then
Where it's going (share price), you don't have to worry  Heh. This even better You're laughing, but my heart is not so at ease. Have to stop looking here so often. Need a vacation. Again. Relax. Look at the facts and not what is said here. If it makes you feel better i sold out at 0.06 and I might just rebuy on the market |
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