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481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: May 12, 2017, 07:37:13 AM
Everyone should be careful, the hype is nice but the history of bitcoin does not lie, everytime it goes up too much too fast it ends up falling down shortly after. Maybe we can see 2000$ soon but im pretty sure it will fall down after that quite a bit

If bitcoin will be fall down after reached at $2000, than it doesn't matter. You know bitcoin is a cyrpto currency and all crypto currencies have a fall and up. Believe me if bitcoin start to fall down than also bitcoin maintain its price and still it will have a profitable price and after few days bitcoin will be started to grow again. So be-careful to sell and buy the bitcoin.
If bitcoin will fall down after 2000 USD then the right thing to do if you have bitcoin is to hold for long term and if you don't have bitcoin then you should buy because a dump is always a good to buy and that is one of the opportunity that you need to look for in the market of bitcoin. A lot of professional traders and investors told me that when there is a dump then buy it and sell it on pump to get profits.
That is right, never sell our bitcoin when the price is dump because we all know that bitcoin is volatile so the price can rise anytime. Although the price of bitcoin is up and down so significant but its price is tend to rise, so I think in the end of this year bitcoin price could be over than $2000 but still there is always fluctuation in the price.

But bitcoin price will not stop around $2000, it will go on, there is current limit on price for Bitcoin.
Nobody know'swhere this will end or what's a good value for 1bitcoin.



I think the bitcoin will stop at $ 2000, it can not go higher and it is not allowed to rise higher. If it goes up too much, inflation will occur which cause the economy to crumble, it is not allowed to happen, and governments will undoubtedly prevent it, despite the high bitcoin prices due to bitcoin adoption by governments around the world.
I am sorry friend, but I dissagree with you. I think the price of bitcoin will not stop rising because the demand of it will always increase too. We all know that bitcoin has limited amount. Even if all of bitcoin is already mined the increasing number of user will not stop.

Assuming that bitcoin always remains the top cryptocurrency, that makes sense.  But it is possible that other cryptocurrencies surpass bitcoin in popularity and the demand shifts from bitcoin to something else.
482  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: May 12, 2017, 03:08:37 AM
If they're so civilized why do they steal taxes at gunpoint?

Although I am opposed to over-taxation, I have a point to make here. If someone is not paying his taxes, then he is putting extra burden on the others. That is not fair. Either everyone pays, or everyone refuses to pay the taxes.

I'd be more than happy to give 90% of my income to a social fund but only if there's no police. As soon as the state starts terrorizing me and bullying me, sorry we're not friends anymore. As soon as I start to feel like I'm living in another mans cage, I'm going to start withdrawing my support.

Police is a necessity. Without the cops, there will be chaos everywhere and violent crime would spike. Obviously, I don't want the military like police which the United States is having. The cops must be lightly armed.

Police only "bully" citizens because of drug prohibition.  Before that police was seen similarly to firemen...helpful folks that are keeping a place safe.  Once drug prohibition started, the monetary reward for corruption and opportunity to profile people came about.  Around that same time, people started feeling less safe in the presence of the police.  Look at the police in Portugal, where are drugs are criminalized.  They're cool.
483  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: May 12, 2017, 03:03:50 AM
"Public service" isn't always what it seems.  For example, if the public no longer wants a particular service and would rather not fund it, would those public servants gladly get laid off?  Or would they value their own personal job and income over the service they provide?  I live in Canada and as soon as there is a department that is going to get funding cuts, they start picketing and threatening to go on strike.  So keeping a job is priority #1.  That type of public service will tend to acquire lower talent, and offer subpar service.  I'd say private companies will always provide better service, because they need to compete for business.

Healthcare and education in the states is regulated, plus the government provides access to huge amounts of debt.  It is the government that enables colleges and universities to basically require you to take out a mortgage for your education.  If students couldn't access that type of debt, prices would have to fall as a result, as the non affluent population wouldn't be able to afford it.

LOL! The lamiest argument ever!!! "It's not the fault of private companies if they set the price 1000 times too high it's because the government allows so" xD
So it means government should regulate everything? That's communism for you!

And what you say about public services is stupid. Why chose? Why not both?
Their should be a national public service for everything that is remotely needed by people (energies, banks, food...) but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be place for private companies. I'd love to see an example of a better private companies than a public one because the argument of "private companies will always provide better service, because they need to compete for business." is completely stupid and USA is here for proof.

But whatever, if that's true then you'll have both public AND private, what's the problem at having both? If private is so good then public will go down.

I'm not sure you understood what I said, but quick to call others stupid.  Obvious sign of a good dude Smiley
I'm not saying anything has fault...nor am I blaming private or public companies.  The marketplace dictates what the price of something will be based on simple supply and demand.  Now the government can manipulate that based on decreasing or increasing supply or demand.  Giving access to debt allows the price to increase and still have demand.  Many are not price sensitive when it comes to education.

You think public service in the USA is better than private?  I don't think many would agree with you.  Do you enjoy the customer experience of being in the DMV?  The public organization with no legal competition.  The monopolized public service.  It's a terrible customer experience, and the tax payers are forced to do business with them.  You can't go anywhere else to get a licence.

I don't think "private" or "public" businesses are bad.  It depends on how they're implemented and executed.  Our current public service is inefficient and has a poor level of service for the cost.  I don't think many would disagree (I live in Canada, but I'd say this for North America in general).  If the government hired passionate and interested people only, and minimized corruption and special interests, it could absolutely be great.  But it's not that way right now.
484  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: May 11, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
It is true that the State can't do anything if the people don't want to.
But the state isn't just "paperwork"
The state is the common ground of people. It's what they all more or less agree on.

And I don't see anything wrong with taxes, how do you expect to pay for public services without them? Every "private" service has been proven being objectively worse and more expensive... Look at USA healthcare and education, twice as expensive as French one and largelely worse.

What I think is wrong is that we're not deciding what get expended where. That's wrong I agree

"Public service" isn't always what it seems.  For example, if the public no longer wants a particular service and would rather not fund it, would those public servants gladly get laid off?  Or would they value their own personal job and income over the service they provide?  I live in Canada and as soon as there is a department that is going to get funding cuts, they start picketing and threatening to go on strike.  So keeping a job is priority #1.  That type of public service will tend to acquire lower talent, and offer subpar service.  I'd say private companies will always provide better service, because they need to compete for business.

Healthcare and education in the states is regulated, plus the government provides access to huge amounts of debt.  It is the government that enables colleges and universities to basically require you to take out a mortgage for your education.  If students couldn't access that type of debt, prices would have to fall as a result, as the non affluent population wouldn't be able to afford it.
485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: May 10, 2017, 06:21:14 AM
The prices of Bitcoin will rise. But it is not an important issue. The best thing is that more people and company accept Bitcoin in the public and start to use it as a proper currency.

And not only people, what about Country's like India and China!? They should accept Bitcoin too as Legal.

They will rather use it as an additional currency after a while. Countries must understand what they will benefit from the fact that they will take Bitcoin.

I think the adoption will be highest where government regulation is easier to bypass and where the national currency is weak to begin with.  So adoption would be easier in developing countries, especially where the local currency is weak (most developing countries in Asia and South America).  Regulation and taxation is more stringent in developed countries, so it's harder for businesses to accept bitcoin until the government recognizes it and is able to tax it.  Not sure how far down the process that is.
486  Economy / Services / Re: [OGC] OneGram.Org Bounty Thread - Get Paid for Your support on: May 10, 2017, 06:09:01 AM
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487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: January 04, 2017, 02:00:50 AM
Do you consider people that use drugs to be "bad"? And people that don't use drugs are "good"? Who should tell you which drugs are fine and which aren't?  If you trust the government to tell you what to put in your body, when they are lobbied by pharmaceutical companies, then you can think that way, but shouldn't force that ignorance on others.

You should put whatever you want in your body as long as it brings no harm to me, and I should be able to do the same if I don't harm you.

There's nothing wrong with a currency being used for illegal transactions; that's its purpose.  Until bitcoin, all illegal activity was done with fiat currencies, and no one lost sleep over it, nor did they lose trust in the currency for that reason.

The main issue with this train of thought is that you as an adult won't purposefully swallow or inject anything detrimental to your body unless it is intended to fight with something even more detrimental. And no one should tell you what to do and what not to do as you yourself claim. But it is not so with kids who don't yet fully understand the consequences of their actions and don't bear responsibility either.

Here's where the government steps in.

Yes agreed, that would be for adults and adults would be responsible for their kids.  For kids, at least for me, and I grew up in Canada - as I child I wasn't informed about drugs as a kid.  Instead, we were fear mongered that trying anything would turn you into a helpless heroin addict.  Everything was negative about it rather than being informative.  The problem with keeping drugs illegal is that it is much easier for kids to get a hold of, than something that is legal and regulated (like cigarettes or alcohol).

And for where the government steps in, they actually step in for all of society and prohibition of (some) drugs is for adults, regardless of the reason, and especially targeted to ethnic minorities (in North America).  Many highly addictive drugs remain legal because big pharma has lobbied for it (oxycontin for example) which doctors prescribe.  Then you can have a guy that didn't take care of his health, maybe smoked a pack of cigarettes a day with no physical activity that ends up with cancer, and is prescribed cannabis.  You can have another healthy guy that smokes cannabis and goes straight to jail without harming anyone.  I wouldn't agree with a law that would make these situations possible.

Most people are very misinformed about drugs unless you look to science, and very few people do - this thread would be a great example of that.
488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: January 03, 2017, 03:52:31 AM
It is possible to buy drugs with bitcoin but I have not done it and will not do it since I don't like drugs or the drugs market at all and I think that is one of the reasons the average person has not adopted bitcoin yet, because they see it as a currency with deep ties to those persons.

actually I do not really know about this, because I've never heard that a drug kingpin using bitcoin for their transactions?
is it you ever hear about this in the news?

Well drug kingpins don't really make their way into the news anyways, do they? If they are a successful drug kingpin then they would not be televised about at all because they have kept their anonymity so well.

And this is the reason why the dark net markets thrive. They provide an anonymous way to provide and accept goods and services, while building up a reputation for yourself at the same time.

The entire drug empire has been working just fine with fiat.  I wouldn't expect cartels to switch over to bitcoin, especially when the value fluctuates so greatly, but that's just my opinion.  Unless all parties involved are cool with making the switch, fiat would remain the method of payment.  At the end user level, I can see bitcoin transactions being beneficial, but cartels are several levels beyond that in the supply chain.
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: January 02, 2017, 11:10:58 PM
We all know that buying drugs with bitcoin is not a good concept an idea. And I knew also that majority of the bitcoin enthusiast is not doing this things maybe few of them only. But as much as possible we shouldn't do this kind of a thing neither try it.
That's a humanity. They couldn't find any better way where to spend bitcoin, no they buy drugs with it. That is just awful. Bitcoin is life to me. Around a month ago I left my work and now I get payment from my campaign and that is not bad money that helps me to cover my necessary costs.
Using Bitcoin in illegal activities are great for the people that are bad. It is pseudo anymous and probably a way that they want. I hope a lot of people does use Bitcoin for LEGAL activities. How much did you get for it. I hope it supports you in you daily activities.

Do you consider people that use drugs to be "bad"? And people that don't use drugs are "good"? Who should tell you which drugs are fine and which aren't?  If you trust the government to tell you what to put in your body, when they are lobbied by pharmaceutical companies, then you can think that way, but shouldn't force that ignorance on others.

You should put whatever you want in your body as long as it brings no harm to me, and I should be able to do the same if I don't harm you.

There's nothing wrong with a currency being used for illegal transactions; that's its purpose.  Until bitcoin, all illegal activity was done with fiat currencies, and no one lost sleep over it, nor did they lose trust in the currency for that reason.
490  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in - is it even worth it? on: December 31, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
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I have to say that he is really very lucky,one in millions i would say have won that award because since years i have not heard any one winning that maximum amount of 200USD.I would say the user must use in worthly and not to even try to gamble with those winning amount.use them wisely.

How are you getting one in millions?

Wouldn't the odds of getting "10,000" with 10,000 possibilities be 1:10,000?
491  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: December 31, 2016, 03:56:00 AM
You have used services that cost money without paying for them (taxes), you have stolen money from every citizen you ever met in your country, you're a thief and force must be used against you in order for you pay if you won't do it willingly.

Ahh... yes. The famous, "what about the roads" argument. How tedious.

If you honestly believe that things such as roads wouldn't be built without taxes, then you have no imagination and are truly stuck with a slave mentality.

Have you ever heard of a toll road? They exist today, and they are paid for by the people who drive on them... I know, it may be hard for you to grasp the concept of people who actually use the product as being the ones who pay for it, as opposed to everyone.

I'd be more than happy to pay voluntary taxes when I have complete say over how my money is spent. Where I live, the government is almost 20 trillion dollars in debt, the infrastructure (including roads) is falling apart, and a huge amount of taxpayer money is used to wage war on people on the other side of the planet. So yes, fuck taxes. I am going to do everything in my power to legally avoid paying as many taxes as possible.

Without taxes (including the hidden tax known as inflation), governments would not be able to pool enough resources to wage large scale war. So yes, fuck taxes.

Excellent point of view.  Or maybe just because I agree with it.

I am not necessarily against taxing, but I am usually for minimal government because it is a very poorly executed business from my experience.  It has the potential to be beneficial, but it seems to very easily grow into a self serving institution when people value their government job more than the service they provide to the public.  I think government should play a role in setting regulations and slowing the destruction caused to the environment in hopes of profit.  The private sector can take care of the rest.
492  Economy / Services / Re: HumanResources.i2p.xyz ✣ High Paying Signature Campaign ✣ Pay Per Post ✣ 0.16/m on: December 29, 2015, 11:48:52 PM
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No problem.  Thanks for letting me know.
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495  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 11, 2015, 08:28:54 PM
one of the biggest ways I've found: dont buy new cars.  As I've heard one financial expert say: "the pair of shoes you wear has more of an impact on your life than the car you drive"

Believe me, I've crunched the numbers.  Driving a new car (even a relatively "cheap" car that costs $25k) will cost you about 2-3x more per year to drive than a cheap used car that you can pay in full.  When you add in the extra insurance costs, interest, mandatory maintenance schedule to keep the warranty in tact, it really adds up and makes you checkbook take a big hit.  Used cars (look for reputable models, hondas, toyotas that are in good shape ) can save you thousands a year in your budget.

That concept of buying something cheaper and likely lower quality can be applied to any product or service; not just cars.  The issue is the experience or standard of living obviously drops when you spend less.

The other part about the car is that you have an asset worth a certain amount.  When you go to sell that 25k car, after a few years, it will have a higher value than a car that was already old and cheap in the first place.
496  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: September 11, 2015, 07:33:52 PM
Faucets are such a waste of time. Sig campaigns are the way to go. If you don't have the money to invest in a senior member account, you could always start by joining a newbie signature campaign and rank up. It may take roughly half a year to reach senior member but once you do you begin to really bring in BTC

Don't compare ant to elephant. Compare faucet to those micro earnings method only and not in signature campaign. How about comparing signature campaign to trading , gambling ? What is your view? Which is the better?

There is no risk with faucets and signature campaigns, whereas there is risk with trading and gambling.  With trading it may be a little more in your control but with gambling, the odds are against you in the long term.
497  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: September 11, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
Bitcoins will be hard for them to stop without shutting down the entire internet. Should a government act against bitcoin, it would drive the price through the roof.

The government of first world countries would never want their beloved currency to go to waste. They are already acting against it. They can't fully go through with it, however. It's a decentralized currency. The only possible outlet they have is putting place laws and regulation that make it harder to obtain or trade. NYC bitcoin LBC exchanges have pretty much been banned because you need a license (which is hard to obtain) in order to purchase/trade bitcoin. I wouldn't be surprised if more came.

I think there is a lot more difficulty in trading bitcoin with a fiat currency, as the fiat part can be tracked without too much trouble, and as long as financial institutions/banks carry out the government's will, it can make it a chore to trade.  What is very difficult to control however, would be bitcoin being used to buy and sell actual goods and services.  It is very effective at doing that, whether the government chooses to act against it or not.  In fact if they choose to be against it, then they will force bitcoin users to operate outside of the law, and that means that they won't be able to capture any tax revenue from sales.

The IRS already wants people to put bitcoin apart of their income if they have any. So it's not like people aren't already escaping the laws of the US tax system. Regardless, I would have to disagree about trading with Bitcoin and fiat currencies. In my opinion trading with BTC is much more easier than fiat currencies because of the fraud associated with sellers and fiat currencies. I'd only accept bitcoin when possible if I were to sell anything, especially online. I wouldn't have to worry about any type of bullshit going on with my money in terms of fees, chargebacks, ect. PayPal specifically coming to mind in terms of ecommerce and online dealings, they do nothing but rob you of your money.

I think you misinterpreted what I was trying to say.  I am talking about trading/exchanging funds between bitcoin and fiat (x bitcoin for y USD or vise versa).  Without fiat transactions, how is the government going to keep track of your bitcoin transactions?  It wouldn't be within their line of sight to know how much bitcoin you have.
I know what is your point, you only want to say is, bitcoin is only depending on fiat money and if theres no fiat money bitcoin will be useless, you only change your money into digital so that you can  have an easy transaction.

I'm probably not explaining myself well enough.  I'm talking from the perspective of (the government) tracking people with bitcoin and bitcoin transactions.  That tracking can only be done if you are exchanging your bitcoin with fiat (not cash), so that there will be a record with your bank.  Other bitcoin purchases that are not taxed, wouldn't be traceable.

So in the even that the government outlawed bitcoin, I think you'd still be able to use it as long as you don't have transactions between your bitcoin account and your fiat bank account.
498  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suicide on: September 11, 2015, 04:45:35 PM
I think that it is selfish under certain circumstances; they didn't tell anyone about their problems, and didn't offer anyone a chance to help them. That could make the parents or friends blame themselves for not seeing the problem. This could lead to a cluster suicide. I think that it isn't selfish and just thier choice if they have tried everything they could. I don't support suicide at all.

It could be termed escapism / selfishness even if they tried everything.
Santhara, however, is way, way different.

Everyone expresses their problems differently.  Some keep it to themselves and others are comfortable sharing.  The issue with sharing suicidal thoughts is the way you're going to be treated going forward.  People will treat you differently, and you will be advised to be medicated with psychoactive substances that will alter the way you think.  I can see why people in that situation would want to skip that process.

But in terms of friends and family - it would be best for friends and family if you find a way to close those relationships off before checking out, if there is enough planning that has gone into it and it's not just an impulsive decision.
499  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does anyone think Kim Davis is right? on: September 11, 2015, 06:34:38 AM
It will be interesting to see her first day of work.  I'm sure gay couples will be lining up.  Smiley

How is she going to do her job without violating her conscience?  Has she become an atheist? 

Have you seen her speak?  She has a very strong form of blind faith...I don't think atheism is even a possibility for her.

She is paid to do a job, and she seems unable to do it.  Instead of treating her with a sense of entitlement, she should simply be let go and replaced.
500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 11, 2015, 06:24:11 AM
like i said aslong as you don't gamble too much and know when to cut your losses it's all fun and good games, but if you get carried away with it it can be wreck your life faster then a brick hitting the ground

It is a game with the fire. You can't control yourself and one day you will do the wrong step. You will go over. And that day you will find yourself with in the pockets only the cloth of your pants. Stay sure for this.

Yes in this thread I have read many people saying as long as one can control then they can do gambling but I'm not sure how many people can do that control. Mostly as you said one day they will loose that control and loose their money as well. I'm not saying gambling one should completely ovoid because you can just have some fun game but do not gamble to become rich.
agree! IMO maybe they just want to sharing how to not lose to much with experience they got but the control you greedy or not it's back to your self
People tend to confuse addiction with fun. Many gamblers can't stop gambling because they find it "funny", in reality, the "fun" part is long gone and replaced with a bad addiction mostly caused by adrenaline

I was listening to an evolutionary psychologist about gambling the other day and apparently winning a bet produces a dopamine response, which can be physiologically addictive aside from the possibility of winning.
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