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4821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: $50,000 electric car or $45 carbon filter on: July 12, 2018, 12:28:02 AM
so are you saying people should fall for this?

CO2(aq) + H2O(l) --> H2CO3(aq)

H2CO3(AQ) + 2NaOH(aq) = NA2CO3(aq) + 2H2O
4822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 11, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
At the 2015 United Nation's Framework Agreement on Climate Change Convention (UNFCCC) the nations of the world agreed to limit temperature rise due to climate change to 20C

How would they expect to achieve this?  Even if we stop all fossil fuel burning NOW, the earth's temperature is still going to rise for the next half century or so.
They may all agree to this because that's the easy thing but the most important thing is how they are going to implement the agreement altogether. Using renewable source of energy like solar seems to be the solutions but it's going to take a while before the whole thing becomes globally used.

Or more likely, liars meet and agree to lie together.
4823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 11, 2018, 10:27:46 PM

President Trump blasts NATO allies, says “Germany is totally controlled by Russia,”
....
https://youtu.be/VqaclRZrT0E
https://youtu.be/T_Qm0WgH1-M



Yes, that one was easy to see coming. The Russian pipelines, the careful manipulation of the German population to NOT believe in nuclear power, to stop using coal, to do all the "Green things..." a path that purposefully led them into energy dependance on Russia.
4824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 10, 2018, 11:40:35 PM
to mr trump when you come to the uk you will see many moaning cabbages along the sidewalk   ...so wave to the crazy cabbages  they are like those nutters if you wear a trump hat they go mental like in the usa....but loads millions still love the trump in the uk ..just got to be careful what you say in the uk in case upset the crazies who hate democracy..              

Moaning cabbages!

hahahahhaha!

I MERIT YOU FOR THAT ONE!!!

https://ishare.tube/video/jeffrey-von-rothschild-ii-posted-a-video-to-his-timeline-1
thanks   does i win btc for my merits  lol ..you know me i love free stuffs  ..anyways have a nice day sir   and 4 more trump years yippeeeeeee....   show that to the dems they will turn into trump zombies     yes 1 word of the trumps name they turn into crazy zombies   foaminbg at the mouth and chasing you down the streets     so becareful  of the trump zombies ..never say trump or even trump in a dark alleyway because the trump zombies could be anywhere  even your gran or uncle can all of a sudden turn into a trump zombie....must dash and take it easy   spendy  ..4 more years  for mr trump if he wants to..Oh and if no reply  from me just not seen or something else  but always glad to talk to the spendy  ..

The way things are going, a rocking four more years looks like its coming.

Nobody's fooled by the fake Russia stories, and those pushing them look more stupid every day.

4825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 10, 2018, 11:53:07 AM
Because of the climate change, even the part of north and south pole ice are melting slowly. This is alarming and a  huge problem for all of us in the world, I saw a speculation that if the north and south pool ice melted all of the united states and all other countries will  be underwater in just 1 week. ....

But there are no scientists who seriously suggest that such a thing might occur.
4826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 10, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
As someone  who  comes  from a  developing  country,  it  will  be  quite  hard  for  us  to get  into  the  level  of  the  rest of  the  globe  because  of  the  regulations  which  are  being  put  in  place  at  the  moment.  the  only  thing  which  will  change  the  game  is  the  advancement  of solar panels  and  other  green energy sources. this   will  be  good  in  the  long  term.

That won't work. To move a region of the developing world forward requires power infrastructure sufficient to support modern industry, and this means coal power plants, then efficient electrical distribution to business centers.

It could also mean nuclear power, but that's not available for many regions. Hopefully that will change with the new designs for thorium reactors.

4827  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Google will ban ads involving cryptocurrencies on: July 10, 2018, 01:58:33 AM
So... Little by little, crypto is being brought down to the same level as porn, if advertisement rights are to be believed.

I think it is a bit premature to group crypto in with explicit content such as pornography. Every single google-based crypto advertisement I saw was either a scam or looked like it could have easily been an exit scheme. Perhaps Google and internet advertisers will look to rework/establish new guidelines on how cryptocurrencies will be advertised using their platforms so a large number of scams aren't out in the open for any joe and jane to be looped into.

Bitcoin does not need adds.
4828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 10, 2018, 01:42:09 AM
to mr trump when you come to the uk you will see many moaning cabbages along the sidewalk   ...so wave to the crazy cabbages  they are like those nutters if you wear a trump hat they go mental like in the usa....but loads millions still love the trump in the uk ..just got to be careful what you say in the uk in case upset the crazies who hate democracy..              

Moaning cabbages!

hahahahhaha!

I MERIT YOU FOR THAT ONE!!!

https://ishare.tube/video/jeffrey-von-rothschild-ii-posted-a-video-to-his-timeline-1
4829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 09, 2018, 10:58:16 PM
Currently we are in a century of climate change and energy crises that take place simultaneously. Ironically, the double crisis has an impact on the declining quality of the environment.....


What declining quality is that, and how is it "declining?"

For example are you referring to reduced agricultural output?

Lower livestock production?
4830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 09, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
....

and to be clear the baby milk bullshit on honduras... those behind it, public and private should be dispersed... fishfeeders. Imorals in their laughters to make a quick buck... anyway the small irony is that their death will generate more than their entire lives potential. I bet you it's the type of aggressive goons who will bitch me about abortion... the only way to talk to such authoritarian animals is with multiple kill ways...

speak and live... or if you fucked up...

Okay, I have not a clue what you are talking about...

Have a nice day!
4831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Electric Cars - The future ? on: July 09, 2018, 03:15:39 PM
....the car batteries used in a Tesla generate as much CO2 as driving a gasoline-powered car for eight years. And that’s before they even come off the production line. .....

So a gasoline car is clearly better for the environment.

Why are so many people lying to us about this?
4832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: July 09, 2018, 03:08:14 PM

Look, let's get this matter straightened out.

Ask Alexa.



https://ishare.tube/video/jeffrey-von-rothschild-ii-posted-a-video-to-his-timeline-1
4833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 09, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
..... Then only i can find out is there any logical errors between those steps.  

(2-->3) illogical conclusions
You advocated "planting trees." But assuming they have the effect you believe they have, that won't work, when you do the math.

Size of United States: 3,805,927 square miles

Number of square miles of ADDITIONAL trees needed to absorb all US CO2 emissions: 1,042,019 square miles

Nature has a way of putting plants, including trees, in locations where they can thrive.

(3 incorrect understanding)
Moreover, you consider trees as an unqualified Good, based on a belief that they have an effect of removing Co2 from the air. This is false, they are not an unqualified, absolute Good. Trees can either increase or decrease the greenhouse effect depending on conditions. And if they were planted as you assert should be done, the net effect would be negative.

https://carnegiescience.edu/news/co2-effects-plants-increase-global-warming-0

averaged over the entire globe, the evapotranspiration effects of plants account for 16% of warming of the land surface, with greenhouse effects accounting for the rest. But in some regions, such as parts of North America and eastern Asia, it can be more than 25% of the total warming. “If we think of a doubling of carbon dioxide as causing about four degrees of warming, in many places three of those degrees are coming from the effect of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and one is coming from the direct effect of carbon dioxide on plants.

You've proposed people should trust your judgement, embark on a course of action that math says is useless, and that will have the opposite effect you believed.

Any other questions?
4834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 09, 2018, 04:15:18 AM
don't just discuss. go to plant more tree as you can.
Yeah I do my part, will you? because we can't wait and watch the disaster without taking preventive measures. First we need to identify the problem clearly and then only together we can stand up in order to protect the earth.

Trust me ....

why?
It's up to you to trust me or not it doesn't make anything to me or my work.

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You sound a lot like Al Gore and I do not know anyone who would trust that guy.
That's your point of view not others. Tongue

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Also I do not think you have clearly thought these things through.
I think I have clear thoughts about what I'm saying and can you highlight where you feeled that I haven't through those things? Can you highlight any incorrect facts that I have mentioned. Because I only want to highlight the actual scenario of what's going on at the moment. I think facts matters rather than accusations.

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Are you a shitposter from Reddit Climate?
"Reddit" LOL. Can you prove it? Don't judge a member without looking at his profile. I'm still a member but I'm not a underworld freak who do Bounties, I don't expect such a childish behavior from a legendary member like you. I think "shitposter" is the person who ruins a thread without adding any value to the discussion. So who is the shitposter? Is it me?


RE shitposter, I was joking, you used the word first. Your extensive use of graphs and charts, reminded me of numerous propaganda threads on the reddit climate threads, from which many who disagreed were banned, and are now here.

Yes, you do seem to draw incorrect or unwarranted conclusions from partial or poorly understand phenomena. This is typical of AGW believers —

(1) pick a set of data which affirms the theory of AGW
(2) assert that man is responsible and must change his ways
(3) detail how he must change his ways

Almost always by the time one gets to (3) the assertions are wildly inaccurate.

So to answer your question, yes, there are logical errors both in 1-->2, and 2-->3.

I would comment that science is hard, and a lot of time the answer is "we don't know." Believers in AGW want to propagate their belief, and they have an absolute certainty as to their righteousness. That is much more like religion than science.

New findings occur almost daily, but it may be fifty or seventy-five years before we really understand the chaotic system of climate and it's dynamics.
4835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 09, 2018, 04:05:13 AM
Also there are 60-80 year cycles, and longer term cycles, of climate to consider. These have warming and cooling periods. An example was the "mini ICE AGE" in the 1700s in which the river Thames in London froze over.
Yes there have been cycles since natural climate variability always there. But the problem is "Anthropogenic effect" will divert those cycles from where it should be actually.


Where it "should be?"

Consider what the effect would be, and how many lives would be lost, if another Little Ice Age were to happen.

If it is the case that man's emissions have stopped such a climate event, that is a good outcome, not a bad outcome.

Now consider a real ice age. As you may be aware, these occur periodically and our planet is overdue for one. Again, a slight effect of man's CO2 emissions might at the least, stall such disaster.

I don't think you really mean what you say, "should be."

Thanks for looking at the problem from a different angle. However I don't believe about global cooling thing(besides from natural climate varibility).

May I remind you, that in the camp of Global Warming there are many who are basically pushing propaganda? They are politicians, some of the scientists, many people who are well meaning, but many companies who benefit from scaring the public.

Solar scientists are physicists. They do not have those points of view. They study the internal dynamics of our Sun. If they publish papers and publicly warn about the possible consequences of a lowering of solar activity similar to the 17th century, people should listen. That means reading and understanding their reasoning.

Believing is completely irrelevant and is more akin to religion than science.
4836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Trinity found in the Bible? on: July 08, 2018, 11:18:22 PM
trinity is not found in the Bible.

She was in the Matrix.


https://www.google.com/search?q=woman+in+a+movie+named+trinity&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=bOXf_s_LbB8RzM%253A%252CguAAmM5LEQ9cPM%252C_&usg=__ucW9k0JQL8VJOO7UfxPvcYjqXnU%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWuey40JDcAhUq5oMKHT8gA0gQ9QEIMTAD#imgrc=bOXf_s_LbB8RzM:
4837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released on: July 08, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: Metro
He may have once been the world's most wanted man, but that didn't stop Osama bin Laden from enjoying a bit of porn...

Link: http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/21/osama-bin-laden-had-massive-porn-stash-in-pakistan-lair-5209160/

Isn't it possible that he kept a porn stash for reasons other than personal enjoyment though? .....

.... Nope ....

“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

.....

Probably the nature of the contents is such that they wouldn't release it.

Which is exactly what they said.

Think in terms of, little boys....
4838  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can Technology Help Eradicate Poverty? on: July 08, 2018, 09:35:24 PM
Technologies like virtual and augmented realities create experiences which can help generate empathy. Why? Because these experiences enable us humans to live in the shoes of others. Makes sense, right? This can foster understanding and compassion among leaders and policymakers....



What do you think?


among sociopaths and psychopaths? That's what many world leaders and policymakers are...
4839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 08, 2018, 09:22:59 PM
....,Even if we stop all fossil fuel burning NOW, the earth's temperature is still going to rise for the next half century or so.

There is no certainty of another half century of rising temperatures.

Yes the effect of the additional CO2 will linger in the atmosphere for such a timeframe, but the effect of each additional increment of CO2 is exponentially less than the previous.

Also there are 60-80 year cycles, and longer term cycles, of climate to consider. These have warming and cooling periods. An example was the "mini ICE AGE" in the 1700s in which the river Thames in London froze over.

Among solar scientists, concern has been growing about global cooling. See for example -

http://www.snf.ch/en/researchinFocus/newsroom/Pages/news-170327-press-release-suns-impact-on-climate-change-quantified-for-first-time.aspx

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307894966_The_Influence_of_Solar_System_Oscillation_on_the_Variability_of_the_Total_Solar_Irradiance



4840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change and the power crisis.. on: July 08, 2018, 09:07:45 PM
don't just discuss. go to plant more tree as you can.
Yeah I do my part, will you? because we can't wait and watch the disaster without taking preventive measures. First we need to identify the problem clearly and then only together we can stand up in order to protect the earth.

Trust me ....

why?

You sound a lot like Al Gore and I do not know anyone who would trust that guy.

Also I do not think you have clearly thought these things through.

Are you a shitposter from Reddit Climate?
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