Hello,

I am who won 17 BTC on last October.
I'd like to report here that my cashout of 17 BTC has not been completed yet.

The reason they explained is:

>The thing is that casino wallet is almost empty for now and some time can
>be required to refill it and proceed with your cashout. So you are also
>interested to bring your friends to casino .

Be careful.
They don't have enough money to pay for your winning.

I have waited patiently and have talked with them over and over so far,
but now I am disappointed with their response.
That is why I inform you guys despite being disadvantageous to me.

I'm really worried that they don't pay to me.

I will keep reporting here until my cashout is completed.

If you mean who is responsible for the payment made so it's only fun-casino, we pay from our pocket!

Today I will be reveling  the dark underbelly of sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io.

Theses two sites hide under the mask of a legit casino and sportsbook and adding so called provable fair games.

While nothing could be the farther from the truth.

These 2 websites are run by the same group and interchangeable .

They use many unethical , criminal and , underhanded scam tactics . I want to show some of these today.

I will start with the so called provable fair games . These are split into two games baccarat and blackjack.

I have played over 100,000 hands of both and have been a long time vip member of this site, not some newbie that has made some small deposit of 1 btc and called scam.

The two games are done under the company onetouch.io , which is a sub part of coin gaming the parent company of bitcasino.io and sportbet.io


They claim these games are fair and there verification site is https://onetouch.io/provablyfair/verification . The same company that says its fair is the company that makes the game.

Now if you click on verify the game it will go to https://onetouch.io/provablyfair/verification plus some cookie script.

They will do a hard cookie that auto verifies the hand. If you take the cookie part of the link and just open it normal it will follow based on your ip and the cookie that was hard coded on your computer when you opened it.

If you independently  verify many of the hands they dont verify. They alter the hands and when you have won some.

You win some and then you loose 10 plus hands in a row while this might happen sometimes normally but it follows a pattern over many thousands of hands . If you talked to the support they will say oh you where unlucky and use a standered reply of we a licensed and tested. The company that tests those two games are the same company that directly profits and licence of cuarcao is suspect in many ways.

The other games they use are betsoft which are known scammer games.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1531232.0

http://www.legitgamblingsites.com/blog/betsoft-scam-alert/
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/betsoft-gaming-ltd/nationwide/betsoft-gaming-ltd-betsoft-gaming-betsoft-buying-casino-software-scam-canada-nationwide-395676

and there is hundreds more.


They run both betsoft table games and slots.




Now lets get into the payouts.

If you happen to win which is very unlikely they will payout sometimes.


There has many complaints recently about this .

But something else that is very unethical and is another way to hold your money is that they require 6 confirmations for a withdrawl.

This is so they can hold your money longer and try to get you to play there highly rigged games.

This is way more then any other casino. Any legit casino requires 1 confirmation and sometimes very large one such as 50btc might be 3.


Now i would like to go into there support.

They have some of the worst live support ever.

They do not want to be helpful if anything they want to hinder you.

They never help they will try to delay and give you standard boiler plate reply's.

Some of the vip support will try to help but there hands are tied by mangement.


They also manipulate the lines of there sportbets live.

They will change quickly and will also offer lines other then normal sportsbook to trick people.


There has been  many other personal things that happened but i will stick to how there trying to take from everyone.

I hope this helps some people out there

Hey

I posted something earlier about sportsbet,io.

I have been a long term member of both sportsbet.io and bitcasino.


I have bet more btc then most people have seen millions of mbtc worth of bets lol.

I was upset with some things they where doing but i talked to someone and they helped answer some of my quesions and i feel better about it.

I felt it was important to post here and withdrawl my other post.

Because even after more then a year i use to bet bitcasnio when they had sports betting now sportsbet.io

they have taken care of me and theres a reason i have been a vip for a year there one of the best casinos out there and there vip staff is very helpful and will actually try to help you.

Like any sportsbook they have room for approvement they always help out and are always solving problems

Hey

I posted something earlier about sportsbet,io.

I have been a long term member of both sportsbet.io and bitcasino.


I have bet more btc then most people have seen millions of mbtc worth of bets lol.

I was upset with some things they where doing but i talked to someone and they helped answer some of my quesions and i feel better about it.

I felt it was important to post here and withdrawl my other post.

Because even after more then a year i use to bet bitcasnio when they had sports betting now sportsbet.io

they have taken care of me and theres a reason i have been a vip for a year there one of the best casinos out there and there vip staff is very helpful and will actually try to help you.

Like any sportsbook they have room for approvement they always help out and are always solving problems

I would like to see more transparency from Betcoin management.  For example: the results of the independent audit of Betsoft (or an explanation of why the audit never happened) as well as the relationship between Betsoft and Betcoin, both of which were promised by Betcoin Jessica and Andrew last July.

A response to the accusations made in this post would be excellent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667860.msg16745828#msg16745828



^^^none of this ever happened

>The thing is that casino wallet is almost empty for now and some time can
>be required to refill it and proceed with your cashout. So you are also
>interested to bring your friends to casino Smiley.

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Hello,

I am who won 17 BTC on last October.
I'd like to report here that my cashout of 17 BTC has not been completed yet.

The reason they explained is:

>The thing is that casino wallet is almost empty for now and some time can
>be required to refill it and proceed with your cashout. So you are also
>interested to bring your friends to casino .

Be careful.
They don't have enough money to pay for your winning.

I have waited patiently and have talked with them over and over so far,
but now I am disappointed with their response.
That is why I inform you guys despite being disadvantageous to me.

I'm really worried that they don't pay to me.

I will keep reporting here until my cashout is completed.

I have made my comments about signature campaigns publicly known.  I'm not going to go back searching through threads to try and find my comments or waste any more time explaining why giving a user negative feedback for who won their auction is ridiculous, or waste my time pointing out that they bought my signature and anyone is welcome to do so.  If you choose who is trustworthy by who spends the most on advertising, you have a long hard life ahead of you.  Take some responsibility and let other people be responsible for who they choose to gamble with.  I couldn't care less. As far as I'm concerned all gambling sites are scams that prey on people's addictions. Trying to say that I deserve negative feedback because of which scam won my auction is once again ridiculous.

I've been extremely vocal that I think signature campaigns are evil.  I've done everything I can to bring a stop to them.  I've even made proposals to limit them to extremes.  I also think that gambling is evil and do not support or condone it in any way, nor do I participate.

We are all adults here.  Everyone knows it is a paid signature.  Easy for you to say to give the money back, but unless you want to put your money where your mouth is, please spare me the lectures.

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Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses?

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.

Hi Beefheart, I am informed this ticket was responded to and for the record the 2 chips you reference are paid into the poker balance which is separate from the main balance immediately when released.  This is why you do not see it in your main balance.  Thank you. 

Faster and smoother than ever before?
What makes you think so and what do you think it's a result of?

Hei, there. I received my 250mbtc ticket because I joint the promotion. What is the deadline of that ticket? I am quite busy in recent weeks, so I didn't join the recent one.