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4921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: March 27, 2020, 12:49:04 AM
Well, let's just stop worrying about the delay, and let's just hope that it actually takes place in some time in future. Sad
Or let's just hope that everything goes back to normal as soon as possible. We really do not want to keep going like this for the next one or two months or even three+ months. No one really knows which direction we are going in this pandemic situation.
4922  Economy / Services / Re: Need 2 High quality Logos on: March 27, 2020, 12:43:21 AM
I know how it should be and also need each one with the brandname and the logo only.
May be you want to explain your needs here. The color code, shapes, business type, name, inspiration etc. This will save your time and also those who will show interest too.
4923  Economy / Reputation / Re: Fake Accounts bumping Lotto Nation, Swapzilla, MyTVChain, Joltee, PHORE on: March 26, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Since when you enrolled in the forum police force what I mean by this is that well done :-D
These projects thinks they are favoring their projects by doing this (hiring spammers) but it actually harms their project.
4924  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins on: March 26, 2020, 07:35:41 PM
I believe a simple solution would be for a mod to create a sticky in the games and rounds sub that says threads about altcoins do not belong in games and rounds, and that altcoin giveaways are not allowed.
This does not harm (sticky in the board) but how about the companies who have altcoin besides bitcoin in their platform. We do not suggest them to go to an altcoin forum or we ask them to go to altcoin marketplace? We need to embrace crypto projects, don't we?
4925  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins on: March 26, 2020, 07:07:41 PM
Well, that's a different story. I think this forum is horribly unfriendly to its users. Even rules that will get you banned on the spot (permanently or temporarily) are not easy to find or understand. IMO that's what needs to be fixed instead of wasting energy on creating standards for allowing altcoin giveaways. I'd pin the rules next to the Bitcoin Core download but officially theymos doesn't believe in written rules but he writes strict anti-altcoin rules and violators get banned... go figure.
I think theymos is handling this forum better than anyone could in the space. I have seen him to make some decisions in unbanning some users by not going very strict. There are exceptions and he always allowed room in it. My effort here is to see the next guy not to get banned because he was not very much aware about the rule or thought that it's not against the rule to make a post in thread X.

*It is an understandable that some participants made a mistake in thinking participating in the giveaway was allowed
*A lot of long-standing, active forum members were caught up in the mess, which is a negative consequence under normal circumstances
Isn't this mean that the rule was not very clear in their mind? It's not that they always do not understand the rules.
4926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk PSL T20 Pool and discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 06:47:36 PM
Indian community is living around the world which is also best part of their revenue and they have really good funds for selling media rights which is not possible for any other cricket board in Pakistan we have no structrue for this its first year we have this at home but still its very good and they handle all things very good we can hope this will bring some good money and in future this will also have more attraction from many other countries.
Well Indian media is one of the biggest in the world. Let's not forget it. There are English media and American media but Indian media goes parallel with them too.
4927  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins on: March 26, 2020, 06:44:18 PM
Yes, but it's a special board for that kind of thing and this being a Bitcoin forum (and lacking a better way of doing it) I can understand why such exceptions exist.
I did not mean any problem there so period here of course, means we are on the same page.

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I don't really see why allow it for altcoins unless Bitcointalk actually needs to promote certain altcoins for whatever reason. What would that reason be?
What bothers me is the rule of banning and if you got me earlier then it's not very friendly rule which is obviously confusing or we would not see so many users got trapped in it including a lot of us who are well aware of the rules and respect it by heart. Do you think some of the users really care much about those altcoin if they had this in mind in the next morning they will see they are banned? The answer is of course NO.

I will repeat what I said below regarding the concern here:
I think hilariousandco said somewhere that in this kind of situation trashing the thread will be a good thing instead of banning everyone who joined and to make it more flexible in my opinion whoever will be the topic creator will get a PM from the mod about the post that this kind of giveaway is not allowed so their post got trashed and if they post the same topic again only then they (the topic creator) will get x days ban. This my personal opinion by the way.
4928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL Mutual Pool Discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 06:37:00 PM
Yes, You are right but it is not easy to achieve this title,
You need a lot of reading to become conspiracy theorist and not everyone can do that.  Wink


By any means I did not have any attempt to discredit your skill, in fact I appreciated it :-P


This calendar looks very tight and the situation we are in now is going to change it massively to cope with the re-scheduling. Let's hope that we go back to normal lifestyle very soon.
4929  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins on: March 26, 2020, 06:26:31 PM
If it's not possible to convert to Bitcoin then such a horrible shitcoin wouldn't fit the OP's criteria either.
Yes you have a point but we can not expect all the users will have greater handling power than the mods. What I mean by that is: not everyone will know that we will have to convert the coins to bitcoin and promote. So, still we will see topics where we will find it ultimately falls in the criteria of altcoin giveaway.

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And - correct me if I'm wrong - it's not the actual giveaways that are forbidden, it's the "I want to join this giveaway, here's my address" type of posts. In other words, if someone wants to run an altcoin giveaway outside of the forum and even link it here - that should be fine. As long as they don't incentivize low-effort posting/bumping.

Here we are talking about spamming issue which still we can see if the payment method is bitcoin. Example: games and rounds and other prediction type threads like what will be the bitcoin price in x time etc. Most of them are very low effort posts, aren't they?

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And - correct me if I'm wrong
No, you are not wrong in the context.
4930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk PSL T20 Pool and discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 06:20:28 PM
Yup. If you look at the TV broadcast rights, then the revenues for BBL is more than any other league (apart form the IPL). But at the same time, the player salaries for the BBL are lower when compared to leagues such as the Natwest T20 Blast and the Caribbean Premier League. The Australian population is not as large as what they have in England or some of the South Asian countries.
The reason for IPL to get huge success is the people in India. This is a county which has 2nd largest in population and cricket is a sport that they worship of so getting success in any cricket related event is not much surprising. Besides Indian Cricket Board is one of the richest board among all and they have very good power in ICC panel so it's obvious that it's very easy for them to spend money how they want and call anyone from anywhere.

In other leagues first there are not audience those love cricket and 2nd I think the board can not afford to spend money like India do.
4931  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: allow on-forum altcoin giveaways for established altcoins on: March 26, 2020, 05:55:40 PM
A better description may be to allow on-forum altcoin giveaways if the giveaway is not meant to promote the altcoin itself (which is probably what lead to spam in the past), but instead promotes for instance a website (this could be a casino, a mixer, or an exchange) that uses the altcoin . The coin itself shouldn't be the main reason for the giveaway, but it should be worth enough to have an actual cost for the company that runs the giveaway. So no tokens make up out of thin air (like the Bounty board).
It's a common sense that the altcoin giveaway rule was meant to prevent all those shitloads of useless coins when forum was flooding by them but since the situations has changed I will agree here with some others that the rules needs a change if possible.

Besides, if this giveaway things were not confusing then we would not see much talk about it. I was one of the user who was banned recently too even after knowing the rule but really could not identify the nature in the topic.

Doesn't this include moderators making decisions about which altcoins are shitty and which are not ? It would make it more like altcoins are moderated which is avoided here from the start.
Technically it does but I think we want here a common ground where we will see it preserve the forum interest of not to get spammed and also legit promotions from established companies/projects.

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Imagine the outcry and rivers of red trust if someone were to run e.g. a BSV giveaway. I mean it's established isn't it...
Yes, some of these guys get the tickets but this is not solving the issue we have here. If we consider the recent ban issue applied to some of us and still there are some who are under the same rules and possibly still in ban status means one thing which is the rule is not very clear. There are still some campaigns (not complaining against them coz I do not see any problem there) which has hundreds of users responded but from their OP it looks like they did not clearly mentioned if the giveaway will be in BTC or any other altcoin. If the rules need to be applied to them then we will see a mess ban where more than few hundreds of users will be banned and I do not think this will look good for all of us.

Instead of complicating things with exchange rates, definition of what is considered established, etc, why couldn't the entity running the giveaway just convert it to Bitcoin? This is a Bitcoin forum.
Not sure but may be it's not possible all the times? Who knows.


I think hilariousandco said somewhere that in this kind of situation trashing the thread will be a good thing instead of banning everyone who joined and to make it more flexible in my opinion whoever will be the topic creator will get a PM from the mod about the post that this kind of giveaway is not allowed so their post got trashed and if they post the same topic again only then they (the topic creator) will get x days ban. This my personal opinion by the way.
4932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL Mutual Pool Discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 04:14:19 PM
Although you have strike your reply, still where will you vote for cancellation  Wink  
Do you think there will be any such voting ?
Aren't you the one who is the conspiracy theorist according to JSRAW and he is very right if it's you :-P
I was not talking about real voting but just to express my thought however I like your humor :-D
4933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL Mutual Pool Discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 03:53:47 PM
India may even surpass US and Italy Undecided  
India is one of the largest populated country so no wonder they will surpass US, Italy or china if they really do not take it seriously. It's not only in India but in others countie in East side. And problem here is that the authority will have not control if it spreads exponentially. They will not have proper equipment even to test the patients. My understanding is that most of the people live under poverty and they do not have any sort of medical insurance.

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Btw, being a Revenue Staff, I have 1-day duty on 31st. Let's see how this goes.
I hope you guys practice proper PPE.
4934  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Selling fake cure for COVID-19 + using alt accounts on: March 26, 2020, 03:34:47 PM
listen, this my personal herbs, i used for my self !! you don't know anything!
Personal? Then why are you attempting to commercialize it and asking other to buy it from your website? You can consume whatever you want and no one will care. May be your well wishers will try to convince you not to consume poisons since it will kill you but still if you want then no one can do anything else. Problem here is that you came up to sell this herb or whatever you are selling.

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bought..??so go ahead to give your suggestion to banned!!
You did not tell anything about the fees you can pay :-P
4935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk PSL T20 Pool and discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 03:11:44 PM
Believe or not but this month i got shitload amount of work and i am working on deadlines. Every office around the globe shutting down and everyone passing a projects to freelancers. I shouldn't say this in current World wide crisis but for me its like X-MAS. I am already workaholic so all good, the only thing i am missing out is my GYM.
Good thing is that at least someone is not financially affected by this pandemic. Actually you are but in a positive way. If you are a freelance then it's good for you.

PSL hasn't matured yet and the revenues are nowhere near that of the IPL. No other franchise T20 league in the world have such gigantic salaries, as the IPL has. I don't know much about the state of economy in Pakistan. But in Bangladesh, they are struggling with their BPL (due to low revenues and lack of interest from big names in international cricket). The BCB is not profiting much from the BPL. If the same happens with PSL, then it won't be good news for the PCB.
I think the closest will be BBL although I have no data to back it up.
4936  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Selling fake cure for COVID-19 + using alt accounts on: March 26, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
Ah of course I won't consume it ,  but I have a chance to send it somewhere to have it tested  ( I'm not talking about in detail lab tests etc ) , some general stuff that  but would be enough to show if there's anything special to his herbs ,   cause right now I'm pretty sure his herb container is either filled with air or field grass .
I do not think the guy has any intention of his herbs to be tested. Possibly there are no herbs at all. Once you will pay then it's just gone. And he is not going to send anything to anyone to test it.

i don't think to pay anyone here, but i can help you to try voodo, if you want to try..send me your ID/self photo! i will help you to try voodoo!!
So you have ID selling business too. Why not you use your brain in something that is good for mankind and for yourself too. I am pretty sure your family will not feel good for you if they find all these about you.

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find it...!!all accounts..you can ask @OP to banned all !! this is very very dirty campaign!!!
fake cure and Fucking Scammer..?dammn..!!
Another attempt that your Hero accounts are bought accounts :-P
4937  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Selling fake cure for COVID-19 + using alt accounts on: March 26, 2020, 02:35:13 PM
suree..!! no problem, if you feel i have more 1 account..please to banned all!!
1 or many?
Feel free to post something from those accounts in here so that we know it's you. And for the suggestions, will you pay me or you really do not have money and expect me to do a charity for you :-P
4938  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Selling fake cure for COVID-19 + using alt accounts on: March 26, 2020, 02:26:48 PM
i don't feel lucky, i will fight dirty campaign!! i'm ready to banned here!!!
Which campaign you think is dirty here? And good luck on the ban attempts.
Do you want me to give you some suggestions on how to get ban here?

send to me or anyone other that has accused you here about being a fraud a free sample of your product

Are you sure you are going to consume something which is not lab tested and is coming from a stranger who looks very fishy?

call @OP to banned my account here!!
LOL, this again proves that your hero accounts are bought accounts. You have no clue how this forum works.
4939  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Selling fake cure for COVID-19 + using alt accounts on: March 26, 2020, 02:17:47 PM
what is written here is FAKE!!accusation without Proof!!
Buddy it's common sense. There are no scientific back up against your claim and there are no authorized document and nothing to back up what you are saying. Don't be so fool by thinking that people are going to buy your words and buy those trash from you.

Grow up!  

no reason..?? how do you know that..??i'm ready for banned account here..!!! this is dirty campaign!!i'm not accept that!!
You are lucky that scams are not moderated here and scammers do not get banned or you would be banned long ago.
4940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL Mutual Pool Discussion. on: March 26, 2020, 02:15:07 PM
Any confirm news of IPL being cancelled this year or will they move it to 3rd or 4th quarter this year ?
There are no official decision yet I think. But if they need to have one with only one match against each others in the group stage then I will be voting for cancellation. I know I will not enjoy it much. 

akhjob already has you answer.

When they are more focussed on the revenue, they'll always search for a way to conduct the tournament. But things are not in their favour right now. If the pandemic conditions improved because of the self-quarantine throughout the world, then maybe we'll have IPL on May 1. Anything before that is not possible IMO.
What is the current situation in there now? Improving or going down as we speak?
For IPL we need things to get better globally or foreign players are not going to visit their and without foreign players I do not think IPL will be much attractive and there will be much money too.
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