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Hope everyone notices how quick vdice is to point out my mistake when I accused them based on looking at the wrong block explorer. They've pointed it out many times since. The other issues they seem to have decided to not respond. |
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BTC-Casino making a name for them self all over...   |
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Well, if like this, in the near future, this project will be successful. so many gambling ico that became a scam, however, the site is far from the word scam, and I think it will be something good in the future. vDice will be great from the other sites
Are you on drugs? My favorite part: Just lol. Wallet Lockdown
Another issue which we raised internally, it is if we considered appropriate for the wallet owners to be able to have complete access to the funds during the token swap period.
If owners are able to withdraw the funds, they could use them to mint token for themselves for free.
But due to the fact that the blockchain is transparent, so any strange behavior would be surely be noted and reputational damage would ensue, and that this would lower the overall amount of ether raised by the token swap, we considered this a non-issue since owners have no economic incentives to act in this way.
Moreover, accessing the funds could reduce the security risks of having a large amount of ether in only one contract, since owners may want to spread it between multiple accounts/wallet contracts. Seems like you're trying to say: "We will have full access to funds during token swap period." |
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lemmi just paste what the definition of a threat is real quick a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
I wanted to a) warn the users in that campaign of what I considered doing and b) gain opinions from other DT users about how to proceed. Leaving negative feedback for scams or advertising scams isn't a "hostile action". It's a concequence of what the user in question did themselves. One hiccup doesnt make an entire company a scam and im sure that if you were to leave all the members of their campaign negative feedback, there would be some users who didnt even know about the jackpot thing One hiccup? Do some research man. Let's talk hypothetically though so this doesn't turn into Betcoin debate. What do you (YPIInvalid) suggest the most appropriate way to handle an unethical business, running a signature campaign on this forum. This business hasn't always had a negative reputation, and the signature campaign is one of the highest paying and has been running for about a year. What's the right thing to do? |
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You got me, I didn't understand the difference between ETC and ETH at the time. I've since educated myself on the subject. Everyone makes mistakes. What's important is that we learn from them.
Have you come to terms with the reality that your game is neither provably fair nor decentralized?
I imagine you have, at least to yourself. Are you able to admit it publicly?
Also what's this about smartest people in Ethereum? You're a team of bloggers and social media guys and your product reflects that.
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15 days until ico end, whether it can reach the target?  Hello call me stupid, but i dont care!! may know whats the targeted amount and from where you get the information ? can you provide me a link? as i am surfing crowdsale.vdice.io to check the total raised, but i didnt got the targeted amount i might have missed something. Thank you in advance Make sure you don't miss the fact that they aren't provably fair. They aren't decentralized. They haven't had 10k bets yet, or even 8k. (Other sites will have had more than 10k bets in less time than it takes me to make this post) Also they have no history of any kind to suggest they should be trustworthy enough to handle millions of other peoples money for long term. Also, don't miss the last part of their "testing" where they casually imply that they will have full unrestricted access to all invested funds right away. (Their logic is if they did anything dishonest, they would be caught and it would hurt their reputation, so of course they wouldn't do that, and everyone should trust them) |
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Hallo allemaal, Ik ben benieuwd of er een aantal Nederlanders zijn die de vDice/vSlice crowdsale volgen. Laat eens wat van je horen in deze thread. Op dit moment zijn er al 201,553.9 ETH ingezameld met nog ruim twee weken te gaan voordat de crowdsale gesloten is. Je kunt 'live' meekijken en zien hoeveel ETH de mensen storten via de volgende link: https://etherscan.io/address/0x8bccc9ba2e5706e24a36dda02ca2a846e39a7bbfHeb je al eens een gokje gewaagd op de www.vdice.io website? Zo ja, wil je dan eens je ervaringen delen? Hoi coinhugger, bedankt voor de vertaling. Ik ben dus ook Nederlander en volg de vDice crowdsale met interesse. Ik heb nog niet eerder het vDice spel gespeeld maar ik hoor graag of anderen het al eens geprobeerd hebben. Ik ben meer geinteresseerd om het vDice platform in the toekomst als basis te gebruiken voor het ontwikkelen van m'n eigen spellen. Is het bekend wanneer het platform klaar zal zijn hiervoor? Gaat het met makkelijk te gebruiken API's werken? Het is al gedaan, jaren geleden. Zonder dat iemand elses geld. Bekijken:  Dat moneypot voorbeeld dat je hier geeft, is dat een gedecentraliseerde oplossing waar weddenschappen als slimme contracten op de blockchain worden geregistreerd? En kan je direct Ether (ETH) gebruiken hiervoor? Ik heb het even nagezocht maar ik zie niet dat er een blockchain wordt gebruikt voor de structuur en het is alleen voor betalingen in bitcoin. Is deze oplossing centraal geregeld en hoe is het aanwijsbaar eerlijk? Noch moneypot of vdice worden decentrlized. Geen casino is. vdice is niet bewijsbaar eerlijk. Moneypot is bewijsbaar eerlijk. Moneypot is niet gebaseerd op de blockchain. Als u op zoek bent naar een blockchain gebaseerd ETH gokspel, stel ik directbet.eu Ze zijn volledig op blockchain geen rekening nodig, en ze bieden alle soorten van sport, casino games, een poker variant en dobbelstenen. als u op zoek bent naar een snelle, bewijsbaar eerlijk dobbelspel voor ETH (maar niet blockchain gebaseerd), stel ik crypto-games.net Al deze opties zijn veel beter dan vdice Ze zijn allemaal gerund door mensen met de reputatie en de geschiedenis van het omgaan met grote ammounts geld. Geen van hen zijn ter waarde van $ 2 miljoen USD. Begrijpt u wat ze nog aan het doen zijn? Denk je dat ik lieg? Heeft u lezen hoe ze beweerde succesvolle productie klaar, bewijsbaar eerlijk casino voor maanden? Toen ze werd gevraagd waarom er zo weinig inzet en niet bewijsbaar eerlijk te zijn ze veranderd in "vroege fasen" |
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Thanks to each and every one of you we were able to discover the issue at question and take all appropriate measures to see it solved in a timely manner.
It took you 71 days (at least). That's not timely. It's pathetic. dice jackpot is rigged someone reduce it every week  How much was it when you saw, according to jackpot table the last win was on 2016-09-12 and the total jackpot pot was .358 btc. it was about 0.5 always when its reach about 0.5 someone reduce it |
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Hier zijn slechts enkele van de vorderingen die zij gemaakt in de aanloop naar het ICO. Alstublieft, ga terug en lees hun blogs. Totdat ze werden opgeroepen, zij verkochten hun product zo succesvol, de markt klaar is, En vergeet niet, ze zijn niet aantoonbaar beurs of gedecentraliseerd. June 11, https://blog.vdice.io/ethereum-lightning-betting-onchain/We didn’t think about it. We’re so focused on software. We’ll let you know.
We’ll keep having the fastest, safest, onchain oracle transactions.
We’ll keep building the best technology…for everyone. Ethereum lightning betting.
ethereum lightning betting 1
Our API…no one can believe our API. Everyone was talking about Blockcypher and their API. Then we come out with our API. People can’t believe it.
The number of developers we’ve sent our API stuff to already, just in this last 48hrs…It’s incredible. It’s so great. And all free!
We care about the software. They see that. And the network. We care about the Ethereum network. Ethereum lightning betting is coming.
Aug 2 https://blog.vdice.io/vdice-development-update/Here’s the vDice development update for August.
We’ve been super busy. Can you believe all the action? It’s amazing.
At vDice, we’re on the cutting edge.
Development Update
Already we’re recognised in Ethereum. We’re the leading Blockchain Gambling Dapp. Everybody agrees.
Our players want it much faster. Alright, so we’ve been working with our Oracle.
We’re going to make betting process even faster. It’s gonna be so fast. You won’t believe it. We’re gonna role that out this month.
Oct 6, https://blog.vdice.io/crowdsale-announcement-vdice/The game is already successful. You don’t need to wonder.
on November 15th you contribute your Ether (ETH). In exchange, you automatically receive vDice tokens (called; ‘vSlice’) and profits.
Each token is directly tied to the profits of the game.
Everything works right away. Because the game already works.
You can trade the tokens on exchange, immediately. Or keep them. And keep game profits.
It’s that simple. Nov 16After the ICO we are moving from PoC stage to Beta
Then our priority is:
1. Faster blockchain betting times.
We already have them down to 5s on the test-net.
2. More betting options.
3. Site design.
It's all coming after ICO.
The funds are now there to make this a truly commercial product. . It's almost as if you're saying whatever you think will attract the most investors...without taking reality into consideration. (I'm calling you a liar)
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Lauda , Lutpin and yahoo are weird guys.
guys? girls? apache helicopters? They will misuse their trust ratings and will destroy your trust ratings.
Even yahoo who isn't in any relevant DT level currently? They are the real criminals.
For realz? By what laws? Might wanna think about crowd-funding a lawsuit against us in that case. Real criminals belong into jail or at least sentenced. Their trust ratings should also be spoiled.
I get the pitchforks, you bring the torches, ok...wait, what? 1. Nope , no apache, Antonov 2. You do not sure about what you are saying. 3. Yeah you all should be hanged till death. 4. Yeah seems a good idea, lets go for it. 5. Cable, shade jealous want shy, 6. Abiding soup, prefer hyper potato. |
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1. buy and sell account
Yes, I've spent 4 years on this forum building up myself so that I can save an additional $10-20 per account sale. Don't you see how absurd this theory is? 2. put high rates as campaign manager
That is much better than random half-baked users, which don't give a damn about those campaigns, undermining the rates just to get the job. 3. selected who can join the signature campaign or easy for you give priority to your friends to join in sig campaigns.
This can already happen with every campaign. Not specially relevant to SMAS. And also by the times goes with this way open to other bitcoin forum compete with bitcointalk because by manipulation scheme the member of forum will leave the forum.
Slippery slope fallacy. How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A"
Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available). It's stuff like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg15967038#msg15967038 and this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15645159#msg15645159 which adds credence to the conspiracy theories, and that's the short list. What are we supposed to think? If you really want your voices heard, I suggest working together to start the Sig Camp Members Union to protect the rights of anyone who wishes to spam, shitpost or promote unethical businesses as if they were honest. lexuz would be a great spokesperson during the first 3 weeks of every month while cjmoles rested up for the fourth, Who knows maybe a spammer is just a scenario, which is run by a group due with that they can get something. Who knows, maybe they just want to keep the forum from going to total shit? |
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1. buy and sell account
Yes, I've spent 4 years on this forum building up myself so that I can save an additional $10-20 per account sale. Don't you see how absurd this theory is? 2. put high rates as campaign manager
That is much better than random half-baked users, which don't give a damn about those campaigns, undermining the rates just to get the job. 3. selected who can join the signature campaign or easy for you give priority to your friends to join in sig campaigns.
This can already happen with every campaign. Not specially relevant to SMAS. And also by the times goes with this way open to other bitcoin forum compete with bitcointalk because by manipulation scheme the member of forum will leave the forum.
Slippery slope fallacy. How can you can make campaign B compete with campaign A "easy for you all to put not active member in campaign A"
Can we stop with the useless conspiracy theories? I can't talk for the other managers, but I have a very strong opinion against market manipulation and attempts at bribing me. Not only would they lose the bribe (money), they'd be exposed and possibly sued (depending on information available). It's stuff like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg15967038#msg15967038 and this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15645159#msg15645159 which adds credence to the conspiracy theories, and that's the short list. What are we supposed to think? If you really want your voices heard, I suggest working together to start the Sig Camp Members Union to protect the rights of anyone who wishes to spam, shitpost or promote unethical businesses as if they were honest. lexuz would be a great spokesperson during the first 3 weeks of every month while cjmoles rested up for the fourth, |
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Hallo allemaal, Ik ben benieuwd of er een aantal Nederlanders zijn die de vDice/vSlice crowdsale volgen. Laat eens wat van je horen in deze thread. Op dit moment zijn er al 201,553.9 ETH ingezameld met nog ruim twee weken te gaan voordat de crowdsale gesloten is. Je kunt 'live' meekijken en zien hoeveel ETH de mensen storten via de volgende link: https://etherscan.io/address/0x8bccc9ba2e5706e24a36dda02ca2a846e39a7bbfHeb je al eens een gokje gewaagd op de www.vdice.io website? Zo ja, wil je dan eens je ervaringen delen? Hoi coinhugger, bedankt voor de vertaling. Ik ben dus ook Nederlander en volg de vDice crowdsale met interesse. Ik heb nog niet eerder het vDice spel gespeeld maar ik hoor graag of anderen het al eens geprobeerd hebben. Ik ben meer geinteresseerd om het vDice platform in the toekomst als basis te gebruiken voor het ontwikkelen van m'n eigen spellen. Is het bekend wanneer het platform klaar zal zijn hiervoor? Gaat het met makkelijk te gebruiken API's werken? Het is al gedaan, jaren geleden. Zonder dat iemand elses geld. Bekijken: |
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I miss TwitchySeal  If you miss him, come on over to the Dutch thread I translated for vDice. TwitchySeal started trolling there. And because TwitchySeal is not a native Dutch speaker he's using "Google translate" to spread FUD with the most horrific grammar errors possible. He must not understand (or ignores) that the Dutch thread is meant for Dutch people. Do the dutch enjoy being lied to and throwing money away? Pretty sure most dutchman who aren't on vDice payroll won't mind my google translate if it means not being fooled. Tell me coinhugger. Do you believe vdice is provably fair, decentralized or succesful by any measure other than convincing people to give them money? Have you even done any objective research before you started promoting them? How do you figure any one of them should be considered responsible enough to manage millions of dollars of other peoples money? |
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Hi all ,
Let me explain my experience with this vegascasino ,
I've played over 3 BTC on Friday and lost all , and now tried to deposit a small 0.14 and surprise my account is has issues.
I've tried to withdraw the deposit and the support is telling me that for the moment I can't withdraw.
I believe now they will start asking documents , which I will not provide and they just scammed me for this 0.14 and pretty sure those 3 btc aswell because to be honest never saw a losing streak like this casino , ever.
Thought it will be helpfull for other players to know my experience and think twice before putting money in this casino.
Thanks
So you 1- deposited the .14, 2- had issues 3- tried to withdraw .14? Or 1- deposited the .14, 2- tried to withdraw .14 3- had issues? Seems like you're leaving out something between depositing and requesting withdraw. Tell the whole story if you want help. |
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Denk je dat het een goede investering, hoewel hun product een mislukking is geweest? Zij minder dan 8000 weddenschappen in 6 maanden. Andere dobbelstenen plaatsen doen dat in één minuut! Hun software is buggy en de inzetten zijn traag om te voltooien. Ze zijn niet aantoonbaar beurs of gedecentraliseerd. Ze betalen je om te liegen voor hen, doe wat onderzoek jongens. Even snel een vraag, heeft het nog zin om op dit moment nog te investeren in vDice, want de bonus ronde is al voorbij?
Stuur je ETH naar een willekeurig adres. Je zult een betere kans dat het weer te zien zijn. |
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Please some more competent to answer...
Hunter VIP Agent
Hunter: Hey dd. How may I help you?
Me: what is your edge on
1. Slots: 100% contribution to wagering requirements
2. Video slots: 100% contribution to wagering requirements
3. Other games: 100% contribution to wagering requirements
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Me: ?! So how can I understand what house edge have your games. It should be a public information...
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Me: Very unprofessional answer. You cannot tell me how much money you want to take me on every spin. Ok. I will ask @ bitcointalk. Have a nice day.
It is public information (for most of the games anyway).  You just got to look. For example, BetSoft, http://slots-guide.eu/online-slots/betsoft-casino/ (scroll down) Endorphina : 96% RTP GameArt : 96% RTP iSoftbet, http://slots-guide.eu/online-slots/isoftbet-casino/I don't expect support staff (of any casino) to answer this question as you expect, as the casino is not the game provider. Info posted on an affiliate site who called in a favor is not the same as the stats being made public. Can the RTP be changed? Who can change it? When's the last time it was changed? What's up with those $100,000,000+ worth of glam life progressive jackpots? If the company that provides the games to the casino refuses to cooperate or even communicate with players, then why shouldn't the player hold the casino responsible as the game provider? Someone should be responsible, right? I realize it's become "acceptable", but think about what's really going on here. In general the players have pretty much accepted that it's ok for a casino to pass the responsibility of providing games on to a company that can't be held responsible...There's already proof of Betsoft doing shady shit over the years, why are you defending them or the people who provide them? Imagine the things a regulated Casino would do if they could do whatever the hell they wanted without worrying about fines, their license or even responding to players.... (Sorry for derail, this goes for every casino that offers Betsoft games or any provider that is blamed for anything but refuses to deal with players - not just vegascaisino.io) |
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Hallo allemaal, Ik ben benieuwd of er een aantal Nederlanders zijn die de vDice/vSlice crowdsale volgen. Laat eens wat van je horen in deze thread. Op dit moment zijn er al 201,553.9 ETH ingezameld met nog ruim twee weken te gaan voordat de crowdsale gesloten is. Je kunt 'live' meekijken en zien hoeveel ETH de mensen storten via de volgende link: https://etherscan.io/address/0x8bccc9ba2e5706e24a36dda02ca2a846e39a7bbfHeb je al eens een gokje gewaagd op de www.vdice.io website? Zo ja, wil je dan eens je ervaringen delen? Ik denk dat het heel duidelijk dat vdice is een zeer slechte investering, misschien zelfs crimineel. Ze zijn niet aantoonbaar beurs of gedecentraliseerd zoals ze beweren. De nieuwsberichten worden betaald en zo zijn de posten van de steun. Lees hun vertrouwen. Ik heb ook vermoed dat de meeste van de ETH, dat is geïnvesteerd is van binnenuit. Hoi TwitchySeal, jij bent volgens mij niet echt een Nederlander. Je Nederlandse grammatica klinkt alsof het direct via Google van Engels naar Nederlands vertaald is. Het is waar, mijn nederlands is nog erger dan Googles. Mijn verontschuldigingen. Ik hou van je land wel. Maakte enkele goede vrienden na een paar maanden in Delft. In mijn ervaring, zijn de nederlanders niet genieten van geld weggooien net zomin als de volgende ... Begrijpt u hoe vdice niet eerlijk? |
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In my case, it is more important to state that this casino terms had been contradict each other at that time. I mentioned that rule in my first post. Should the Casino become aware of any user who has accepted the bonus or a promotion with sole purpose of creating a positive expected value on bonus return by using known practices aimed at securing a cash out of said bonus or at any way try to take advantage of bonuses received by BitStarz, then BitStarz will enforce immediate confiscation of winnings and closure of the account with the right to withhold any further withdrawals. An example of advantage play would be delaying any game round in any game, including free spins features and bonus features, to a later time when you have no more wagering requirement and/or performing new deposit(s) while having free spins features or bonus features still available in a game. In the interests of fair gaming, equal, zero or low margin bets or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes. Other examples of irregular game play include but are not limited to, placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to their account until such time as the wagering requirements for that bonus have been met. Should the Casino deem that irregular game play has occurred, the Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings. If there were no contradiction, i'd feel better thinking that "i am wrong, i should read/understand better" However at that time this casino had 2 different terms and conditions. Argument 2 is what they are still lying about to implement "system" to protect users from max bet. I also went to Askgamblers and CM. They rejected my case instantly. In addition to Dean's argument... He is right. Bitstarz and other scam casino sites hurts bitcoin ecosystem so much. When you check and analyze this topic, you'll see that %90 of users granted me. Dean also paid and reflect like a real honorable human to save bitcoin ecosystem. However as i stated before, this topic will stay open until they will pay my and other customers' stolen money. I'll pay back this to Dean. This scam "bitstarz" casino should be isoleted from bitcoin ecosystem and every user should be warned about them before deposit. The online gambling industry is incredibly shady, that's what is so interesting about bitcoin gambling. The barriers to entry are so much lower which have allowed a younger crowd to enter and build the type of transparent services that didn't exist prior. All deposit bonuses are predatory scams, it's silly for bitstarz to consider themselves a bitcoin casino when they are basically just a run of the mill fiat casino that accepts bitcoin. Softswiss (and others) sites basically take any convenience bitcoin has to offer to increase their deposit volume, then uses the inconvenience that comes with fiat gambling to decrease their cash-out volume. They are hurting themselves more than they think (imo). |
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