we are considering selling some of the 10 neptunes we have ordered and paid. order # is 133xx single neptunes are sold in this forum for 19 btc. if one buys several, price can go down. escrow possible, shipping is included (out of germany). edit: 16 is the price for single neptune here. we also were one of the first customers of jupiters first batch and had sold them in september and november 2013, sebastianJu was escrow and can confirm this. if one buys several i will visit knc and arrange that they will be sent directly from knc to the buyer. we visited knc on their open day, stockholm is always worth a visit.  the neptunes we are selling here were only available to existing knc customers, were sold out in less than a week and will ship weeks before the publicly available first and second batch. i cannot guarantee a shipping date, but knc usually meets their announcements. 600watt & cheech300 (both wellknown members of the german bitcoin community, organizers of the btc 1k party) pm welcome, or post here. if you hate it, nevermind; stupid comments will be deleted |
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edit: deleted since it was a hijack. sorry.
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das tut er wirklich... und dank dem interview ist jetzt auch klar, warum: Ich habe Anfang 2012 einige Hunderttausend US-Dollar in Bitcoin investiert
das ist die frage: legt er sich ins zeug, weil er investiert hat, oder hat er investiert weil er überzeugt ist.  |
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Anyway, price is too high for regular people to buy, too high to be used in small transaction like pizza
I bought pizza for bitcoins for lunch on Friday. I'm pretty regular. Guess the price is not too high after all. completly illogic. there is 7 billion people but only 12 (21) million bitcoins. in order to go mainstream as a payment system it needs to go down up to satoshi like levels. that means the price for a full bitcoin would be WAY higher than currently. it is hard for me to understand that someone having the chance of getting educated by participating in this forum since june 2010 has not cought this point. you are saying price is too high to go higher ? price should be lower to get higher ?  I got what' your saying. I was actually thinking: price is too high to have small transactions because we have to use too many decimals. Anyway, dunno if it's some kind of disorders but sometimes I'm thinking a whole book but write or say only 2 words. sry for misunderstanding you. the decimal issue is indeed a problem. |
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I own BTC and part of me doesn't want it to reach $10,000 because 1) It will feel like I beat the game "Life" 2) No more going on the forums to speculate 3) No more threads speculating what the price will be  becoming a bitcoin millionaire, even a multi millionaire is nothing to be ashamed of. the 85 richest poeple own as much as the 3.5 billion poorest. compared to wealth like this, a few millions is less than nothing. i grew up in very poor conditions. there were times in my life when (lack of) money was a severe and really depressing problem. if you never experienced being hungry but have no money to buy food, you weren´t there. if you never experienced not being able to pay the rent for the little flat you live with your wife and kid(s), you weren´t there. when november 2013 happened becoming "rich" was suddenly not completly out of reach forever anymore. there were moments when i questioned how/if i would have deserved this unexpected wealth. poverty is not just poverty. it is brainwashing also. |
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I guess too many ppl have 100 coins and wait for 10,000 so they call themselves millionaires.
If you guys reach 1M, think of this: that kind of money is JUST ENOUGH for a great life for you and your loved ones. I can go into details but I'm not sure anyone will listen.
1M is not enough in most 1. world countries. With 1M an average joe can live approx 10 years (with family). You can't quit your job with 35 with only 1M. You had to live like a spartan. 1M is the job wage of the average worker in 20 years. With a bachelor, masters degree or a phd you will earn 1M in less than 10 years. 10M is a good sum to live a decent life. Not a great one, but a good one. wow. first post you did that i can agree to. it always pays out to not give up  |
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Anyway, price is too high for regular people to buy, too high to be used in small transaction like pizza
I bought pizza for bitcoins for lunch on Friday. I'm pretty regular. Guess the price is not too high after all. completly illogic. there is 7 billion people but only 12 (21) million bitcoins. in order to go mainstream as a payment system it needs to go down up to satoshi like levels. that means the price for a full bitcoin would be WAY higher than currently. it is hard for me to understand that someone having the chance of getting educated by participating in this forum since june 2010 has not cought this point. you are saying price is too high to go higher ? price should be lower to get higher ? |
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Bitcoin can't hit more than 2000 because there are too many bitcoin hoarded (not hoarders). Simply put, going to 10,000, will make some people that own 10k to have more than 100 million dollars overnight. And the FBI to have 1.4 bln. USD. Do you want that? Because I don't.
they get 8 billion every year. i don´t think an additional 1.4 billion will make such a difference. http://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/fbi-budget-for-fiscal-year-2012 |
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lol, i always thought miners would be found on the radiator side of the game. bitcoin really changes everything... |
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this is old news, but it looks amazing to see bitcoin has it´s own headline/section http://www.kitco.com/finance/Markets Overview • Metals • Futures • Mining • Stocks • Forex • Bitcoin |
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Solide Analyse 600watt.
I don't know why, and don't really care how.
But you know it's gonna happen, it's just a matter of when... von bitcoin lernen heisst siegen lernen... ps: hier ein "geht-runter-wie öl" artikel in der nytimes: (ist etwas länger aber lohnt sich) http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1&(...) Finally, a fourth interesting use case is public payments. This idea first came to my attention in a news article a few months ago. A random spectator at a televised sports event held up a placard with a QR code and the text “Send me Bitcoin!” He received $25,000 in Bitcoin in the first 24 hours, all from people he had never met. This was the first time in history that you could see someone holding up a sign, in person or on TV or in a photo, and then send them money with two clicks on your smartphone: take the photo of the QR code on the sign, and click to send the money.
Think about the implications for protest movements. Today protesters want to get on TV so people learn about their cause. Tomorrow they’ll want to get on TV because that’s how they’ll raise money, by literally holding up signs that let people anywhere in the world who sympathize with them send them money on the spot. Bitcoin is a financial technology dream come true for even the most hardened anticapitalist political organizer. (...) interessante ansichten für einen, der gerade 50 mio dollar in bitcoin start-ups gesteckt hat. |
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The same long, detailed, intelligent and extremely positive article, by Marc Andreessen (Andreessen Horowitz), published by two of the biggest titles: Time: http://techland.time.com/2014/01/21/bitcoin-marc-andreessen/The New York Times: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0I was waiting for an article that would really delve into what matters about Bitcoin and the potential out there. This is what I was looking for. To find it has just been published on the two of the top media platforms in existence today is quite amazing. Those who read my posts probably think I'm one of the most bullish in here, but this is suddenly making me feel too bearish! EDIT: sorry, only an excerpt at Time. But with the intro and link it's enough. wow, nice article. i will re-post it. it used to be that i found articles about bitcoin that were depressing, and then i checked this forum and felt better. now it is sometimes other way around. |
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endlich habe ich einen chartverlauf gefunden, der unmissverständlich klar macht wohin die reise geht. (log scale ) |
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That's one thing that I find off-putting about Bitcoin: too much lavish marketing for a project by a bunch of young digital subversives whose goal is to steal a highly lucrative business from banks and undermine the governments' control of money flow, worldwide. Yeah how bad of us to want to stop the monopoly on money by banks and governments. Banks should have the sole right to make and control money right? And they should be highly rewarded for it ofcourse. Yeah it's not about the 'people', banks and governments should be in full control of every aspect of our lives, that's in our best interest... the few should control the many. the 85 richest people own as much as the 3500 million poorest. which is half the world population. a financial/economic system that creates/sustains/allows such perverse social conditions is asking for some undermining, one might argue. this is neo-feudalism. in comparison to this, the social conditions that led to the french revolution are a socialistic wet dream. http://world.time.com/2014/01/20/worlds-85-wealthiest-people-as-rich-as-3-5-billion-poorest/ |
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wow, one can gamble now with bitcoin imagine a november style event, while in vegas. one could lose all the time time and still end up with more money than to begin with |
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